Help! Help! Building my dream rig(40k).

Hi everyone,
My dad just allowed me 40 k to buy my dream rig. I have been waiting for this for so long... Gonna buy on 20th of Jan.
I am gonna use this system for all sort of stuffs: watching movies, games, study and what not. The budget is also somewhat flexible.
Did lots of research on what to buy on net and otherwise but to say the least I am pretty confused!
Still I have drafted to buy some components but about others I am still clueless!
Here is the list:

* Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz @ 8k
* EVGA 9600GT 512MB DDR3 @ 7k
* Transcend 3x1GB 800mhz @ 0.6kx3=1.8k
* Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB @ 3.2k
* Motherboard ??? @ ???
* 19" monitor ??? @ ???
* SMPS ??? @ ???
* Cabinet ??? @ ???
* Liteon/Asus ??? Dvd rw @ ???
* Altec Lensing BXR1121 @1050

Feel free to change any component, I am open to all sort of advices.Try to mention the prices for your recommended components.

Thanks a lot in advance

-Big Digit Fan

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Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
Cabinet - Coolermaster Elite 334
SMPS - Corsair VX450W or Coolermaster Extreme 500W(cheaper)
19'' monitor - Dell SE198WFP

You might wanna change the graphics card as this motherboard supports ATI CrossFire.. to HD4670..

And like everyone says wait for Phenom II or Intel price cuts..

^Yup wait for price cuts or beg your father for 60k budget to get core i7...thats everyones dream rig (atleast its mine

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spidy333 said:
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
Cabinet - Coolermaster Elite 334
SMPS - Corsair VX450W or Coolermaster Extreme 500W(cheaper)
19'' monitor - Dell SE198WFP

You might wanna change the graphics card as this motherboard supports ATI CrossFire.. to HD4670..

And like everyone says wait for Phenom II or Intel price cuts..

Well thanks for the advice. :mrgreen:

I am not planning to go crossfire even in future so we should drop the idea of crossfire or SLI to save money for better bargains. Try to mention the appx. price of recommended components so I could keep to the budget.

Whats the buzz about price cuts??? And what about Phenom II???
How long will I have to wait? And what should I expect???

amitash said:
^Yup wait for price cuts or beg your father for 60k budget to get core i7...thats everyones dream rig (atleast its mine )

I can get it to 45k at most.

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Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R @ 7.3k (Also a P35 chipset board.. Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G @ 5.5k).. try lookin into other mobos also.. GA-EP45-DS3L @ 6.7k or MSI P45 Neo-F @ 6k
Cabinet - Coolermaster Elite 334 @ 2k or Zebronics Bijli @ 1k
SMPS - Corsair VX450W @ 3.9k or Coolermaster Extreme 500W @3k (cheaper)
19'' monitor - Dell SE198WFP @ 9k

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My Dream Config...

Intel i7-920 15000
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 20500
CM 600Watts extreme power 3300
Zebronics Antibiotic Cabinet 1300
Logitec Wireless KB+Mouse 1400
Any full HD LCD with 2ms response 10000
ddr3 2 GB 6500
DVD writer LG 1000
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3200
Total 62200

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Blue Floyd said:
Any full HD LCD with 2ms response 10000

afaik u wont get any full HD monitor in 10k.min is 13.5k.

also u need to add a gfx card to ur config as P6T doesnt ahv onboard gfx.

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To get a proper i7 config.. we need atleast 70k I guess.. and at 80k there's Dell Studio XPS desktop which is worth 95k or more..

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@ashish, if you wish to go for buying the rig on 20th for sure then go and do a price check now, before you think of anything.
get Palit 9600GT sonic than 6.5K
a bigger 22 inch screen than 19 inch like Benq 2200HD 12.5K (less than 13.5K I suppose)
for processor instead of E8400 get E7300, more than 3K saved, this will give you to get other better components also
mobo SMPS cabinet as spidy said.

E7300 - 5.8K
E8400 - 8.9K
mobo you decide
Keboard + mouse combo = .7K
get a SATA than IDE burner if possible Asus/LG/Samsung/Sony/Lite-On - choose on basis of price and availability, managin SATA burner in cabinet becomes easier than IDE and also they are better in performance

HDD Segate 500GB with 32MB buffer in 3.2K which is 7200.11 series
And u would need an UPS too.

samsung SH223F is good choice for a burner

@spidy I said I am not looking for a mobo with SLI! A cheaper one will do.

And whats the buzz about price cuts??? And what about Phenom II???
How long will I have to wait? And what should I expect???

@acewin Is 22" Benq 2200HD @12.5K a decent performer???

About the Dvd rw I surely like to mention that I am fed up with bad performance and low reliability of LG and Samsung. I would shed extra to get a better drive. Priority is reading scratched discs. Thats why I thought about Liteon and Asus. What say you?

Wondering if E7300 be a bit too slow for 40k pc?

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB @ 3.2k is done for sure.

And sure I need an UPS!

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Among the motherboards that I have suggested only GA-EP45-DS3R supports CF rest all are normal ones..

^^E7300 is better buy than E8400, if u can overclock

@zyberboy I am completely new to overclocking. Will I need a special mobo to overclock? Is it very risky?

C2D e7300 Rs. 5500
MSI P45 Neo F Rs. 5500
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram Rs. Rs. 2300
Palit HD 4850 Rs. 9500
Corsair VX450W Rs. 3900
Zebronics Bijli W/O PSU Rs. 1100
Monitor BenQ E2200HD 22inch HD Rs. 12000
KB+Mouse Logitech Rs. 700
Speaker Altec BXR 2.1 Channel Model Rs. 1250
Altec Lensing BXR1121 Rs. 1250
Samsung DVD RW Rs. 1050
Seagate 500GB 32MB Buffer Rs. 3000

Total Rs. 44750

@zyberboy I am completely new to overclocking. Will I need a special mobo to overclock? Is it very risky?

Its not risky at all as most newbies believe...To REALLY fry your computer you have to provide insane voltages like 1.6v+ or something...even then intels protection would kick in and downclock your procy....So with a little common sense and fiddling around with very few settings in the BIOS you can get an e7300 to 3.4Ghz on stock.

And about the price cuts, anandtech.com sais its got "reliable" sources which confirm that intel are going to bring the q9450 and q9550 price down like hell to compete with the recently launched phenom2's...however as price cuts take a long time to reach india you would be better off waiting for a month and getting phenom2 + 790gx + HD4850 aka the dragon platform.

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hellgate said:
afaik u wont get any full HD monitor in 10k.min is 13.5k.

also u need to add a gfx card to ur config as P6T doesnt ahv onboard gfx.

Thanks for the tip mate.

I'll probably wait for a month or so......maybe prices too will come down and Mobos might offer a few more options.

1 question: are MSI X58 mobos still giving Bios trouble?

Thanks spidy333, amitash, hellgate, acewin, hellgate , topgear & zyberboy for your valuable advices.

I forgot, I also need a wifi adapter. Which one should I go for if my priority is good reception even at low signal strength? I am open to both PCI and USB devices. Any idea?

Till yet you have helped me to figure out the following configuration:

C2D e7300--------------------------Rs. 5500
MSI P45 Neo F---------------------Rs. 5500
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram----Rs. 2300
Palit HD 4850-----------------------Rs. 9500
KB+Mouse Logitech---------------Rs. 700
Altec Lensing BXR1121-----------Rs. 1250
Samsung DVD RW-----------------Rs. 1050
Seagate 500GB 32MB Buffer----Rs. 3000
19'' monitor - Dell SE198WFP----Rs. 9000
Zebronics Bijli W/O PSU------------Rs. 1100
Cabinet - Coolermaster Elite 334-Rs. 2000
Wireless adapter ???---------------------???
Ups-------------???---------------------------???
--------------------------------------------------------
SUM------------------------------------Rs. 40,900

Any suggestions for change in this configuration?

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^Zebronics Bijli and Coolermaster Elite 334 both are cabinets.. select one among them and you need to buy a psu or else the generic psu will spoil everything...
CM Extreme 600w @ 3.3k or Corsair VX450W @ 3.9k

For wireless adapter go for Dlink one, you should get one around 1000 (PCI one).. Our college is totally wi-fi and many here buy either Dlink or Netgear.. believe me netgear is junk here.. dlink gets good reception.. If you use Linux then Dlink has native drivers whereas for netgear you need to use ndiswrapper..

Get any ups with the remaining budget.. preferably 650VA..

Thanks spidy333. So finally:

C2D e7300--------------------------Rs. 5500
MSI P45 Neo F---------------------Rs. 5500
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram----Rs. 2300
Palit HD 4850-----------------------Rs. 9500
KB+Mouse Logitech---------------Rs. 700
Altec Lensing BXR1121-----------Rs. 1250
Samsung DVD RW-----------------Rs. 1050
Seagate 500GB 32MB Buffer----Rs. 3000
19'' monitor - Dell SE198WFP----Rs. 9000
Zebronics Bijli W/O PSU------------Rs. 1100
CM Extreme 600w-----------------Rs. 3300
dlink Wireless adapter -----------------Rs. 1000
Ups----650VA------???-------------------------???
--------------------------------------------------------
SUM------------------------------------Rs. 43,200

Any suggestions for change in this configuration?

If you want good reception for a wifi adaptor opt for usb one it will cost you more but gives better performance than PCI wifi cards.

UPS - APC 600VA Rs. 2800-3300
Opt for BenQ HD Monitor

topgear said:
If you want good reception for a wifi adaptor opt for usb one it will cost you more but gives better performance than PCI wifi cards.

UPS - APC 600VA Rs. 2800-3300
Opt for BenQ HD Monitor

@TOPGEAR
Are you sure about this? I thought usb adapter would be portable(compact) therefore costlier and under performer to PCI one! Any usb wifi adaptors suggested???

Well initially I was going for "BenQ E2200HD 22inch HD" @ 12k, as you suggested. But to remain under 45k with all other goodies I had to settle for "Dell SE198WFP" @9k.

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The usb one and pci one gets the same reception.. but initially Dlink used to bundle the usb ones with a cradle which they stopped doing now.. Using that cradle you can move that to getter better signal reception but whereas with PCI you dont have much to do..

Just reading some forums and reviews.. it seems that Gigabyte G31-S2L at some 2.5k is a pretty good OC'er and it has PCI express 1.1 compliant port... Does it really matter that much for HD4850 whether its a PCI 1.1 or PCI 2.0 port..

ashish, you might want to check this mobo as you are worrying about your budget.. I also need to check this thing for my build.. others any opinion about this?

@spidy Thanx a ton for the concern.
I think it would be better to spend more on a better motherboard than this one. Reasons: just 2 PCI slots. One would be occupied by wireless adaptor, I will have just one left. Someone also reported heating problem. Also I would like to extract the most juice out of HD4850. Though OC'ing abilities are the top priority and Gigabyte G31-S2L is good at it.
I am not saying I am happy spending 5.5k for MSI P 45 Neo. I think an ideal deal would be at about 4k. Well, lets see what others have to say about this...

I would spend that extra money for BenQ E2200HD.

Blue Floyd said:
My Dream Config...

Intel i7-920 15000
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 20500
CM 600Watts extreme power 3300
Zebronics Antibiotic Cabinet 1300
Logitec Wireless KB+Mouse 1400
Any full HD LCD with 2ms response 10000
ddr3 2 GB 6500
DVD writer LG 1000
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3200
Total 62200

how long will i have to wait approx, if i want to purchase above config at 48k or less?

and what is this dragon platform exactly?

1.coolermaster 500w extreme is avail for 2300 (6 months before)...stick with cm corsair is waste of money...my pny 9600gt even works on zebronics smps...9600gt is not a sucker

2.e7300...dont go for e8x (read xbit labs articles)

3.msi is fine but gb is the best option GA-EP45-DS3R

4. dlink usb wi-fi ...price difference btw usb and pci is not much.

5. logtiech mx518..i bought for rs1350 a year ago

if u r going for cordless logitech then dont buy the base model...one of my friends has replaced it more than 7 tyms

6. ups iball..one of the best in the market...u can replace the battery urself eithout opening it..plus it comes with a serial port...

7.sony-nec dvd writer(one of the most reliable) ...must be at least 16-18x above it just advertising.

ashish1224 said:
@spidy Thanx a ton for the concern.
I think it would be better to spend more on a better motherboard than this one. Reasons: just 2 PCI slots. One would be occupied by wireless adaptor, I will have just one left. Someone also reported heating problem. Also I would like to extract the most juice out of HD4850. Though OC'ing abilities are the top priority and Gigabyte G31-S2L is good at it.
I am not saying I am happy spending 5.5k for MSI P 45 Neo. I think an ideal deal would be at about 4k. Well, lets see what others have to say about this...

I would spend that extra money for BenQ E2200HD.

For 4K you can go for Palit or MSI p35 based boards. They will cost you 4.2-4.5K.
Biostar is selling a p35 mobo at only Rs. 3500-3800 ( don't sure ). Read about it in lynx-india website some days ago.

APC is the best UPS maker available on the market

Sony drives are not so godd now once they were. Go for ASUS or Samsung.
I've used both of them recently & they are good.

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oromis said:
how long will i have to wait approx, if i want to purchase above config at 48k or less?

and what is this dragon platform exactly?

Prices should be down by march...... am waiting too

PALiT HD 4850 512MB @ Rs 8800

*www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=s...ategory_id=69&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Theitwares is also selling Palit HD 4850 for that price.
*www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm

This is the config which I plan to buy:
#Budget: 40k

C2D e7300--------------------------Rs. 5500
MSI P45 Neo F---------------------Rs. 5500
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram----------Rs. 2300
Palit HD 4850-----------------------Rs. 8800
KB+Mouse Logitech---------------Rs. 700
Altec Lensing BXR1121-----------Rs. 1150
Samsung DVD RW-----------------Rs. 1050
Seagate 500GB 7200.11-----------Rs. 3000
view sonic 19" 1913wb -------------Rs.7450
Zebronics Bijli W/O PSU------------Rs. 1100
CM Extreme 600w-----------------Rs. 3300
dlink Wireless adapter -------------Rs. 1000
Ups----650VA---------------------Rs. 1000
--------------------------------------------------------
SUM------------------------------------Rs. 41,850
(which is beyond the budget you see...)

#For this configuration is there a better choice of gfx card which could fit my budget???
#Is everything else fine with this config... any suggestions???

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ashish1224 said:
This is the config which I plan to buy:
#Budget: 40k

C2D e7300--------------------------Rs. 5500
MSI P45 Neo F---------------------Rs. 5500
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram----------Rs. 2300
Palit HD 4850-----------------------Rs. 8800
KB+Mouse Logitech---------------Rs. 700
Altec Lensing BXR1121-----------Rs. 1150
Samsung DVD RW-----------------Rs. 1050
Seagate 500GB 7200.11-----------Rs. 3000
view sonic 19" 1913wb -------------Rs.7450
Zebronics Bijli W/O PSU------------Rs. 1100
CM Extreme 600w-----------------Rs. 3300
dlink Wireless adapter -------------Rs. 1000
Ups----650VA---------------------Rs. 1000
--------------------------------------------------------
SUM------------------------------------Rs. 41,850
(which is beyond the budget you see...)

#For this configuration is there a better choice of gfx card which could fit my budget???
#Is everything else fine with this config... any suggestions???

rig is looking good..

must be able to play the latest games at decent settings. i bought my rig (in sig) for exactly 41k excluding the speakers. the gfx card is fine and if u r not interested in overclocking then try my mobo its much cheaper then the urs and u can invest that money on an additional ram or some other component...

Yes it is, only thing isCM600W is for 3.5k, HD4850 for 9.5k, Seagate 320GB is for 2.2k, not 500GB.

Palit HD4850 is now 8.8K only.
*www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm

^^^superb Pricing< Omg

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@ashish1224 i wud suggest a few changes to ur config.
just bought a E7300,MSI P7N SLI Platinum & Palit 9800 GTX+ for my frnd.the rig is with me as of now and i'm testing it.the E7300 is doing 4GHz 24/7 with my old CM Hyper 48.
personally i wud suggest u not ot go with the 4850.i've tested my spare 4850 with a single 9800GT (1 from my SLi setup) in my i7 rig & the 9800GT performed better in most games (@ 1680x1050).so leave alone the 9800GTX+.
so i wud suggest u to get the MSI P7N SLI Platinum & 9800GTX+.

u bought another config^^^??????

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^^^^^

got it 4 my frnd but i'm using it.

I must say it again and again, lucky u