Help me purchase a 65-inch Smart TV!

IMO Sony X74K should suffice. I think X74L just adds ALLM, might be handy if you plan to play games on it. Check for price difference between them, for 2-3k extra, why not get the newer one.

I went to a showroom to check the TVs and found the Sony X80L and X82L available for Rs 65,000 in my budget. I prefer to purchase a 55-inch television now.

I told the showroom executive that my options were from Sony, Samsung and LG. There are entry-level OLED TVs from LG close to my budget, but the person suggested not to buy them. He has compared all the TVs from the three companies and suggested I buy the Samsung Neo QLED 4K TV instead of the rest. The Samsung TV line-up appeared to have natural colours compared to Sony and LG.

I was shown the Samsung 55QN85C priced at Rs 90,000 and 55QN90B at Rs 1,00,000 as the best televisions to purchase. I also like the Frame (2022) model, which is slightly expensive but available for less than Rs 80,000 on sale. The entry-level QE1C is available online for Rs 60,000.

Now, I'm confused about which of these televisions I should purchase. Which of these choices has the best value? My options now lie between the above models from Samsung and Sony. There is even a cheaper Samsung Crystal Vision 4K TV for Rs 45,000. I'm unsure if I should purchase it.

powerstarprince said:

I went to a showroom to check the TVs and found the Sony X80L and X82L available for Rs 65,000 in my budget. I prefer to purchase a 55-inch television now.

I told the showroom executive that my options were from Sony, Samsung and LG. There are entry-level OLED TVs from LG close to my budget, but the person suggested not to buy them. He has compared all the TVs from the three companies and suggested I buy the Samsung Neo QLED 4K TV instead of the rest. The Samsung TV line-up appeared to have natural colours compared to Sony and LG.

I was shown the Samsung 55QN85C priced at Rs 90,000 and 55QN90B at Rs 1,00,000 as the best televisions to purchase. I also like the Frame (2022) model, which is slightly expensive but available for less than Rs 80,000 on sale. The entry-level QE1C is available online for Rs 60,000.

Now, I'm confused about which of these televisions I should purchase. Which of these choices has the best value? My options now lie between the above models from Samsung and Sony. There is even a cheaper Samsung Crystal Vision 4K TV for Rs 45,000. I'm unsure if I should purchase it.

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QE1C has bad reviews. QN85C & QN90B are good.

OLED will remain the top panel type in the near future. Samsung was stubborn about it for TVs while pushing OLEDs on phone but had to cave it & bring out QD-OLED TVs. LG's WOLED panels are more resistant to burn ins than QD-OLED.

Only reason to not get OLED for general multimedia usage is in case you have a very bright room where the low brightness of OLEDs will struggle.

Always remember, its the job of the salesman to sell, so they lie frequently.

What is your current TV?

My current TV is the Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400. It's a 40-inch television. It's almost 12 years old and recently showed signs of failure on the panel.

My living room isn't very bright. The lighting from outside is adequate or less. In the evening or night, the lights inside the room don't fall on the television screen. Our Sony Bravia Full HD LCD TV looks pretty good.

I thought about the OLED TVs because the display technology is high-end and the picture looks very crisp. I do not want to spend more than ₹1 lakh on a TV.

LG has an entry-level OLED TV that falls within my budget. The Neo QLED TVs from Samsung are pretty nice too. Do I want to spend more than ₹80,000 for a new TV? The Frame looks innovative and I like that TV too. I think it should suffice my needs. What do you suggest? Should I spend more on high-end TVs or stick to Sony Bravia X82L that falls below ₹70,000?

I'm also not sure of the difference between X80L and X82L, but I think the higher number is better.

powerstarprince said:

My current TV is the Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400. It's a 40-inch television. It's almost 12 years old and recently showed signs of failure on the panel.

My living room isn't very bright. The lighting from outside is adequate or less. In the evening or night, the lights inside the room don't fall on the television screen. Our Sony Bravia Full HD LCD TV looks pretty good.

I thought about the OLED TVs because the display technology is high-end and the picture looks very crisp. I do not want to spend more than ₹1 lakh on a TV.

LG has an entry-level OLED TV that falls within my budget. The Neo QLED TVs from Samsung are pretty nice too. Do I want to spend more than ₹80,000 for a new TV? The Frame looks innovative and I like that TV too. I think it should suffice my needs. What do you suggest? Should I spend more on high-end TVs or stick to Sony Bravia X82L that falls below ₹70,000?

I'm also not sure of the difference between X80L and X82L, but I think the higher number is better.

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www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-x80k-x80ck-vs-lg-a2-oled/31223/31239?usage=1&threshold=0.10

IMO the difference between X74, X80 & X82 is small incremental improvements, so I mostly recommend X74K if someone wants something bit better than base 55" 4K Samsung or LG models. You need FALD to get a significant improvement. LG A2 55" was under 80k few months back but rare deal online. Worth checking LG A2 & A3 locally. LG C2 55" is 1.25L usually & LG G3 is 1.35L.

You have to take the call on what to buy. If your living room is big enough, IMO get 65" Sony X74K/X74L.

My options are:
1. Sony Bravia X74L in 55-inch or 65-inch
2. Samsung the Frame (2022) in 55-inch.

I'm worried the 65-inch TV would not fit in my living room. It would most likely be 55 inches.

Sony Bravia X74L costs Rs. 50,000 for the 55-inch and Rs. 70,000 for the 65-inch. The Frame (2022) costs Rs. 75,000 for the 55-inch. Can the Frame TV be purchased below Rs. 70,000?

I'm down to these two choices. It's either I spend 50k or 70k of my budget range.

powerstarprince said:

My options are:
1. Sony Bravia X74L in 55-inch or 65-inch
2. Samsung the Frame (2022) in 55-inch.

I'm worried the 65-inch TV would not fit in my living room. It would most likely be 55 inches.

Sony Bravia X74L costs Rs. 50,000 for the 55-inch and Rs. 70,000 for the 65-inch. The Frame (2022) costs Rs. 75,000 for the 55-inch. Can the Frame TV be purchased below Rs. 70,000?

I'm down to these two choices. It's either I spend 50k or 70k of my budget range.

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Get a measuring tape & measure the place where you intend to keep the TV.

Why do you want The Frame? You don't need the 120Hz & Sony's picture quality is good, almost as good as entry level Samsung QLED. Sure contrast is lacking on Sony but viewing angles are better.

Check this tool for size recommendation based on viewing distance but I found 55" to be great at about 1.5m or so as well, was a very immersive experience.
www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship

My parent's place has the 55" TV about 2.5m away now, so it looks small now vs their old place.

Samsung's recommendation:

Avoid samsung tvs, they have high failure rate. For tvs sony>LG>samsung

I measured the distance from the TV to the sofa. The length of the living room is around 13 to 14 feet. The distance to the farthest sofa would be 12 to 13 feet. There is a large sofa to the left and chairs to the right of the TV. Their distance would be around 8 feet or less. The minimum viewing distance is easily covered for the 55-inch and 65-inch TVs from the chart.

I found another chart for comparison. The view distances are shown below:
40-inch, Full HD will be around 5 to 5.5 feet (My current Sony TV)
55-inch, 4K will be 3.5 to 4 feet
65-inch, 4K will be 4 to 4.5 feet

The above information might benefit the 65-inch TV more.

Then, I found another chart for the optimum distance. I posted the link to the chart below:
*www.avsforum.com/media/no-title.133629/full

It looks like the 55-inch would be better than the 65-inch TV at a distance of 12 to 13 feet.

The breadth of the wall to place the TV in my living room is 60 inches. The length of a 65-inch TV would be 58 inches. This would make it difficult to fit the TV onto the wall. On the other hand, the 55-inch TV would be 48 inches. If there is a 60-inch TV available, that would be the best size for my wall.

With the above statistics, I think the decision for a 55-inch or a 65-inch TV can be answered.

The Frame TV looks innovative and beautiful. I would buy it if the 55-inch variant came below Rs. 70,000.

For my current TV, I think the following would be noticeable upgrades:
Sony Bravia X74L improves 4K resolution, size, LED-backlit, Smart TV features
Samsung the Frame (2022) enhances sound (40w), refresh rate (100Hz), and brighter colours (qLED) in addition to the above

Regarding, The Frame, my question comes back to why you need a high refresh rate TV?

With TVs, bigger the better, hence my recommendation of 65" X74K/X74L. IMO X74K is enough for most people upgrading from an inferior TV (unless there's a physical constrait like space or mounting point). For a noticeable improvement in picture quality, you need to spend 100k+ on a 55" FALD LCD TV or OLED.

A friend of mine was in the dilemma of size vs picture quality, he was considering LG A2 55" at under 80k, but it went OOS. Later he decided to spend more because of low peak brightness of A2, he ended up buying 55" G3 for 135k. His viewing distance is 1.5m to 2.5m for the furthest sofa for reference & TV is absolutely gorgeous to look at when I checked it out. My flatmate has a cheap Vu 43" 4K, even that looks great for movies vs my 27" 1440p Asus gaming monitor because of size & good enough picture quality. I know, not everyone can afford OLED but most people don't need an OLED.

I understand that the Sony Bravia X74K/X74L would be sufficient for me. The 65-inch TV would have done well. But I'm doubtful whether the TV can fit on the wall.

I thought the Samsung Frame TV had a better picture quality, more features and better design. It would be well spent for an additional 20k price. But I'm doubtful whether I can purchase the TV below Rs 70,000.

I was interested in the LG A2 55-inch TV while it was under sale. The Sales rep told me that entry-level LG OLEDs are not that great. I do not want to spend more than 100k for a better OLED TV.

Are the Samsung QN85C and QN90B FALD TVs? I saw their picture quality was even better. I was quoted Rs 90,000 for the QN85C and Rs 1,00,000 for the QN90B models. But again, the TVs would be an overkill for my usage.

My choice again comes down to Sony X74L vs Samsung the Frame. Why is a higher refresh rate, such as 100Hz, not better than the regular 50Hz on a TV apart from gaming?

I think the Frame TV is more similar to Q70C than Q60C. It also comes close to the Q80C. It means the Frame (2022) uses mini-LEDs. Here's the order from Samsung TVs:
QLED: Q60C (Entry-level), Q70C (Upper entry-level), The Frame (Upper entry-level), Q80C (Lower mid-range)
Neo QLED: QN85C (Mid-range), QN90C (Upper mid-range)

Yes, QN85C & QN90B are FALD & you will notice that these are better for HDR vs non-FALD TVs. 90k for 55" QN85C with 500 zones is a good deal.

Again, IMO The Frame doesn't offer enough jump in picture quality to justify the price jump over X74K, unless gaming is also a priority (assuming you don;t want Hisense U7K). Sony TVs have poor response times in general as well, so The Frame will be better in this aspect along with refresh rate. Most TV content are 24fps, some 30fps & some YT videos are 60fps. So 100Hz is useless for watching videos/movies. I don't like the soap opera effect that motion interpolation results in.

Yes, The Frame is closer to Q70 series than Q60 series, for some reason The Frame is much cheaper than Q70 in India, not the case for USA.

Now I understand better. I have a second 40-inch TV in my home. It's the TCL 40R300 without the smart TV features. I purchased it for around ₹20,000. I watched Interstellar last night, and the picture quality was a lot better than the Sony TV in my home. The difference comes from the LED backlit on the TCL vs Sony.

Sony has a good picture, but now that the red lines have come, I cannot compare them.

I don't prefer the higher refresh rate motion in movies, either. FALD or OLED TVs are better options to improve picture quality. But both TVs cost more than ₹1 lakh.

Can you compare the Samsung QN85C and the LG A3? Both cost around ₹90,000.

Unless the above TVs are great, my choice will be Sony X74K/X74L for replacement. Simple, I spend either 50k for the 55-inch or 70k for the 65-inch.

powerstarprince said:

Now I understand better. I have a second 40-inch TV in my home. It's the TCL 40R300 without the smart TV features. I purchased it for around ₹20,000. I watched Interstellar last night, and the picture quality was a lot better than the Sony TV in my home. The difference comes from the LED backlit on the TCL vs Sony.

Sony has a good picture, but now that the red lines have come, I cannot compare them.

I don't prefer the higher refresh rate motion in movies, either. FALD or OLED TVs are better options to improve picture quality. But both TVs cost more than ₹1 lakh.

Can you compare the Samsung QN85C and the LG A3? Both cost around ₹90,000.

Unless the above TVs are great, my choice will be Sony X74K/X74L for replacement. Simple, I spend either 50k for the 55-inch or 70k for the 65-inch.

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A3 wasn't reviewed by rtings.com. Just use their tool:
www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-a2-oled-vs-samsung-qn85c-qn85cd-qled/31239/38907?usage=1&threshold=0.10

As I said earlier, if your room isn't too bright, I will prefer LG A2/A3. But QN85C will be the safer choice as A2 has lower sustained brightness than even 5 years old LG C9. I use my 400nit monitor at 10% brightness, might be 100-120nits or so in reality. My room isn't bright, so A2 won't be an issue for me at all even for daytime usage.

I decided to purchase the Sony Bravia X82L 55-inch TV. I think it would be the best television to serve our purpose. It should cost around ₹65,000 from a nearby dealer. As I said earlier, I may not need a TV with more than a 60Hz refresh rate.

powerstarprince said:

I decided to purchase the Sony Bravia X82L 55-inch TV. I think it would be the best television to serve our purpose. It should cost around ₹65,000 from a nearby dealer. As I said earlier, I may not need a TV with more than a 60Hz refresh rate.

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Congrats

As mentioned earlier, I don't recommend it just because the improvements are marginal & not significant. But you need to pay significantly more for significant improvement though.

I went to the electronics store today to finalise the price for the Sony Bravia X82L 55-inch TV. I considered it a great deal if it cost anywhere between Rs 60,000-65,000. To my surprise, the TV was priced at around Rs 80,000 and with card discounts, it can reach close to Rs 70,000.

I enquired about other TVs similar to the competition. Here are some of the models.

Sony Bravia X75L and Samsung Q60C are in the same league and cost Rs 55,000-60,000.
Samsung Q70C and LG QNED81 cost Rs 65,000-70,000.

In my experience, the picture was better on the LG QNED81 model than the Samsung TVs. It is also priced similarly to the Sony Bravia X82L but costs less with discounts. Does anyone know the year in which LG QNED81 was released? Is it 2022 or 2023?

Can anyone compare these TVs and order them? I think this is the order.

LG QNED81 > Sony Bravia X82L = Samsung Q70C > Samsung Q60C > Sony Bravia X75L

Should I spend more and purchase one of these TVs or buy the one that is priced the lowest? My budget is between Rs 50,000-70,000. Sony Bravia X75L would be a satisfactory purchase for a new TV. Are the other TVs listed here worth the increased price?

powerstarprince said:

I went to the electronics store today to finalise the price for the Sony Bravia X82L 55-inch TV. I considered it a great deal if it cost anywhere between Rs 60,000-65,000. To my surprise, the TV was priced at around Rs 80,000 and with card discounts, it can reach close to Rs 70,000.

I enquired about other TVs similar to the competition. Here are some of the models.

Sony Bravia X75L and Samsung Q60C are in the same league and cost Rs 55,000-60,000.
Samsung Q70C and LG QNED81 cost Rs 65,000-70,000.

In my experience, the picture was better on the LG QNED81 model than the Samsung TVs. It is also priced similarly to the Sony Bravia X82L but costs less with discounts. Does anyone know the year in which LG QNED81 was released? Is it 2022 or 2023?

Can anyone compare these TVs and order them? I think this is the order.

LG QNED81 > Sony Bravia X82L = Samsung Q70C > Samsung Q60C > Sony Bravia X75L

Should I spend more and purchase one of these TVs or buy the one that is priced the lowest? My budget is between Rs 50,000-70,000. Sony Bravia X75L would be a satisfactory purchase for a new TV. Are the other TVs listed here worth the increased price?

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No idea. Last I checked TVs offline in depth was in 2021 or so, I didn't observe much difference between entry level 4K TVs from Samsung/LG/Sony & higher ones, till you reach FALD & OLED. So that remains my stand, save money with X74L or go all in on proper FALD or OLED TV.

Check them locally & see if those picture quality uplift seems noticeable enough for you to spend more. You will never get a proper HDR without FALD or OLED. Edge lit FALD TVs with few zones (upto 8) are worse than no FALD TV IMO. I have a monitor with 4 FALD edge zones.

To some extent picture quality is subjective as well, especially the vibrance & saturation levels. But mostly it can be objectively defined like how rtings.com does. Again, I don't think you need a 120Hz TV, but your call on that. Most console games don't supprot 120fps anyways, ALLM will be nice to have though.

www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/qned80-2023

omega pretty much summed it up. Sony also has better processing so if you are going to watch Netflix Prime or may be a low quality content, Sony is a better choice. But verify this yourself in showroom.

Thanks for all the input. I checked the rtings.com website and ordered the TV reviews from best to worst in mixed usage. Now, I got an idea of how to compare the TVs. From this list, I think the LG A2 would have been the best for the ₹80,000 it sold on Amazon sale. I don't see Sony X82L here, but I think it would have a rating of around 7.0 in mixed usage. It looks like Samsung Q60C and Q70C are better than Sony X75L, Sony X80K, LG QNED81 and LG QNED80.

I looked at the websites of Vijay Sales and Reliance Digital. I found a couple of older models at more than 50% discount. Samsung Q80A priced at ₹73,000 and Sony X85K at ₹77,000. These TVs look better for their value. There is an SBI card discount available only on a few TVs.

There are only two televisions priced at or below ₹60,000 inclusive of the card discount, Sony X75L and Samsung Q60C. Is the Samsung TV a better choice, according to rtings.com?

Should I fix this TV? Or should I buy something worth in the ₹70,000 range?

powerstarprince said:

Thanks for all the input. I checked the rtings.com website and ordered the TV reviews from best to worst in mixed usage. Now, I got an idea of how to compare the TVs. From this list, I think the LG A2 would have been the best for the ₹80,000 it sold on Amazon sale. I don't see Sony X82L here, but I think it would have a rating of around 7.0 in mixed usage. It looks like Samsung Q60C and Q70C are better than Sony X75L, Sony X80K, LG QNED81 and LG QNED80.

I looked at the websites of Vijay Sales and Reliance Digital. I found a couple of older models at more than 50% discount. Samsung Q80A priced at ₹73,000 and Sony X85K at ₹77,000. These TVs look better for their value. There is an SBI card discount available only on a few TVs.

There are only two televisions priced at or below ₹60,000 inclusive of the card discount, Sony X75L and Samsung Q60C. Is the Samsung TV a better choice, according to rtings.com?

Should I fix this TV? Or should I buy something worth in the ₹70,000 range?

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LG A2 has a major con in form of low brightness, so not suited for bright rooms. Else, it surely punches way above its league for the price.

Not sure of others, compare them in offline stores & take a call if they are worth the extra money over Sony X74L. X75L should be the same panel as X74L, I don't think Motion Flow XR100 vs 200 makes any difference. X80L might have a bit better panel, usually just a bit brighter panel with extra marketing goodies. It seems to have better mics for voice search, but price hike is too steep IMO. Just check how close X74K & X80K are at rtings.com.

Again, my recommendation will remain at X74L or go all in on proper FALD or OLED at 1 lakh. I am yet to check TVs locally recently, but I highly doubt stuff has changed much since 2021. Watch reviews by Vineet Malhotra & Techibeez. They are much worse than rtings.com but can get some info.

Are HDMI 2.1 ports needed in the long run? The Sony X75L has 3 of them, even though the panel is 50Hz. The Samsung Q60C has three HDMI 2.0 ports, a notable difference. I'm willing to purchase one of these entry-level TVs as they appropriately fall under my budget and are a good starting point.

powerstarprince said:

Are HDMI 2.1 ports needed in the long run? The Sony X75L has 3 of them, even though the panel is 50Hz. The Samsung Q60C has three HDMI 2.0 ports, a notable difference. I'm willing to purchase one of these entry-level TVs as they appropriately fall under my budget and are a good starting point.

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It is not true HDMI 2.1 48Gbps, just the old HDMI 2.0b which they conveniently renamed to HDMI 2.1 to confuse consumers. Since X74L doesn't have a 120Hz panel, there will never be a need for 48Gbps bandwidth needed to carry 4K 120Hz signal.

Finally, these are the prices for the two TVs I have decided to purchase.

Samsung Q60C at ₹62,000
Sony X82L at ₹65,000

Which TV is better? Both TVs are neck-to-neck, but I believe the Sony is a better TV overall. Should I buy the Sony or the Samsung?

Your call

I have nothing else to add.

Do not buy any of these TVs without getting a demo. Watch some cricket or football to find out which one is handling better motion. Q60C is known to be bad in OLED segment.
Also compare, X74K/L vs X82L, because as omega said, its not worth spending extra for a minor upgrade.

Are you going to use external speakers? If no, then Sony have significantly better sound even in budget segment, Samsung LG is just ok or bad. If you are going to use external speakers, then your decision should be completely based on picture quality.

I will compare these two TVs side by side in the showroom. On YouTube, the Sony X82L wins over the Samsung Q60C.

I don't have external speakers. I might use them in the future.

The reason I want the X82L is for the better colours, Dolby Vision support and a few more enhancements in features and audio. I would purchase it for ₹65,000 or less.

TCL 139 cm (55 inches) 4K Ultra HD Smart QD-Mini LED Google TV 55C755 (Black) *amzn.eu/d/0bx96po

@omega44-xt what do you think of this tv and also about TCL TVs as a brand in India?

RumbaMon19 said:

TCL 139 cm (55 inches) 4K Ultra HD Smart QD-Mini LED Google TV 55C755 (Black) *amzn.eu/d/0bx96po

@omega44-xt what do you think of this tv and also about TCL TVs as a brand in India?

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TCL brings their low quality stuff to India, ignore. That is my opinion. Also people have complained a lot about their QC issues & poor after sales, so I don't recommend its TVs at all, like blindly ignore it.

When Hisense U7K is sold in India for much cheaper, why consider that TCL? Sadly 55" U7K is OOS right now.

If they want to be serious about India, they need to bring the models sold in US to India.

omega44-xt said:

TCL brings their low quality stuff to India, ignore. That is my opinion. Also people have complained a lot about their QC issues & poor after sales, so I don't recommend its TVs at all, like blindly ignore it.

When Hisense U7K is sold in India for much cheaper, why consider that TCL? Sadly 55" U7K is OOS right now.

If they want to be serious about India, they need to bring the models sold in US to India.

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Hey!
I demoed multiple brands recently. Sharing my thoughts. A high end model of a low end brand looked worse than an entry level model of a high end brand. Oled of a brand like hisense was worse looking than regular lcd/qned of LG Samsung. Anecdotal reviews of a few close friends recommending me to buy LG only as Sony Samsung TVs don't seem to last that long nowdays. Again this is highly debatable. I am also torn between a 65" TV and projector.


I really liked this one, took a demo. It was way better than LG led and slightly worse than LG OLED. IMO QNED is a sweet spot even when it is a gimmicky thingy.
Rtings has very bad review of this model though but I don't want to buy TCL / hisense models that come to India.
VS this one :


Took a demo, no complaints except extra expenses like screen and mounts needed for it. Please share your thoughts.

I also saw the LG QNED81(2022) in a showroom, and the demo picture quality looked great. It looked better than the Sony and Samsung entry-level and lower mid-range series. I compared the brightness next to X82L and Q70C. But it has lower ratings on the rtings.com website. There are also complaints of edge backlit bleeding. I was offered the price of Rs 66,000 for this TV in 55 inches after bank discounts.

It seems Sony TV prices have increased. The lowest price for the Sony X82L is locked to Rs 71,000 with a few credit card discounts. I do not have one of those credit cards. The showroom manager offered an alternative deal to purchase with the credit card price and get a piece of free electronic equipment from the store for Rs 6,000. But the Samsung Q60C can be bought for Rs 59,000.

I compared the pictures for X82L and Q60C. The Sony TV has live colour technology and processes the colours differently. The Samsung TV produces more natural colours. I couldn't compare an 8K video at full 4K resolution on both TVs as the internet was slow. But I liked the Samsung colours here while the Sony is good for watching movies.

I like to buy the Samsung Q60C for its Pantone-validated colours and a lower price below Rs 60,000. How does Google TV (Android OS) on the Sony compare with Tizen OS on the Samsung? Which one of them would have long-term app support?

powerstarprince said:

I also saw the LG QNED81(2022) in a showroom, and the demo picture quality looked great. It looked better than the Sony and Samsung entry-level and lower mid-range series. I compared the brightness next to X82L and Q70C. But it has lower ratings on the rtings.com website. There are also complaints of edge backlit bleeding. I was offered the price of Rs 66,000 for this TV in 55 inches after bank discounts.

It seems Sony TV prices have increased. The lowest price for the Sony X82L is locked to Rs 71,000 with a few credit card discounts. I do not have one of those credit cards. The showroom manager offered an alternative deal to purchase with the credit card price and get a piece of free electronic equipment from the store for Rs 6,000. But the Samsung Q60C can be bought for Rs 59,000.

I compared the pictures for X82L and Q60C. The Sony TV has live colour technology and processes the colours differently. The Samsung TV produces more natural colours. I couldn't compare an 8K video at full 4K resolution on both TVs as the internet was slow. But I liked the Samsung colours here while the Sony is good for watching movies.

I like to buy the Samsung Q60C for its Pantone-validated colours and a lower price below Rs 60,000. How does Google TV (Android OS) on the Sony compare with Tizen OS on the Samsung? Which one of them would have long-term app support?

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Google TV is superior, no question, except the lags you might potentially face. Tizen & LG's UI are considered faster & have all the necessary apps for 99% of the population. You can invest 5k on Chromecast 4K later on to change the OS but can't change the panel. So keep panel quality as the deal breaker/maker.

I finally purchased the Samsung QN85C 55-inches TV for ₹84,000 over the Q60C priced at ₹59,000. I chose the FALD TV instead of the regular QLED. For the price difference of ₹25,000 I think it’s a good upgrade. There is a limited period price drop on Samsung upper midrange and premium televisions. I hope the TV is a good choice. Thanks for all the input.

powerstarprince said:

I finally purchased the Samsung QN85C 55-inches TV for ₹84,000 over the Q60C priced at ₹59,000. I chose the FALD TV instead of the regular QLED. For the price difference of ₹25,000 I think it’s a good upgrade. There is a limited period price drop on Samsung upper midrange and premium televisions. I hope the TV is a good choice. Thanks for all the input.

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Great choice, enjoy.

500 zones for 55" is good, shouldn't be able to count zones easily & result in a good true HDR experience. I wish I had space in my room for a 55" TV, this seems like a solid option for a gaming TV for its price. I'm considering LG C3 42" because of smaller size, not sure when I will make the purchase though.

A few days after I watched content on my new television, I noticed a subtle grid on the left side in solid colours or bright scenes such as the sky. I googled it and found that it is common in FALD TVs. I called the Samsung technician home to verify the artefact. He said the panel was perfect, and there was no issue. But are these common in most of the Samsung high-end models? Is it because of bad quality control checks from Samsung, or would it have been caused during transit or installation? What is the chance of receiving a perfect panel?

powerstarprince said:

What is the chance of receiving a perfect panel?

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Only the QA specialist at Samsung, South Korea can answer this question.

I am reading first time about it. Is it bothering you?
Run some screen test for FALD TVs from Youtube. If the grid is significantly visible, then try to record it/take snapshot and send it to Samsung's customer care. Let's check what they have to say about this.
Now that you mention it, it does look like its common issue on online forums!! I am shocked that no one talks about it enough.

omega44-xt said:

Great choice, enjoy.

500 zones for 55" is good, shouldn't be able to count zones easily & result in a good true HDR experience. I wish I had space in my room for a 55" TV, this seems like a solid option for a gaming TV for its price. I'm considering LG C3 42" because of smaller size, not sure when I will make the purchase though.

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I think the Samsung QN90C 50-inch TV is a great choice for gaming. It comes with a VA panel and a 144Hz refresh rate. It has been discounted lately and is available for less than ₹70,000 including bank offers.

TheSloth said:

I am reading first time about it. Is it bothering you?
Run some screen test for FALD TVs from Youtube. If the grid is significantly visible, then try to record it/take snapshot and send it to Samsung's customer care. Let's check what they have to say about this.
Now that you mention it, it does look like its common issue on online forums!! I am shocked that no one talks about it enough.

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The grid is only visible in bright solid colours and scenes such as the sky or underwater. It bothers me sometimes when I watch these shots. Otherwise, it's hidden in the rest of the content.

The Samsung technician asked me not to look at it and enjoy the picture instead. It seems Samsung doesn't consider DSE issues as a panel defect. The panel is close to perfect except for this subtle visible grid.

I had also not heard of this before until I observed it on my TV. I searched for it and found that it is more common in larger TVs and about 40 per cent of the models. It is more common in Samsung TVs due to their thin bezels and bad quality control. Some people have found the grid in almost every TV in varying amounts. It is possible to get one without the grid. But that would need a lot of luck.

There are refund and return policies in America and Europe. So, people can try again and test their luck even though it is a double-edged sword. There are no such policies available in Asia and Africa.

powerstarprince said:

I think the Samsung QN90C 50-inch TV is a great choice for gaming. It comes with a VA panel and a 144Hz refresh rate. It has been discounted lately and is available for less than ₹70,000 including bank offers.

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I'm worried about its response times. But a great deal indeed if 70k. I'm seeing the 50" one for 80k after card discounts. LG C3 48" is 90k at Tier 1 cities from what I heard.

Rtings.com didn't review the VA panel model. 50" panel might be same as Odyssey Neo G7 43" which has a terrible panel for gaming in terms of response time & overshoot.

In case you follow up further with Customer Care then don't forget to update here.

On another note, If it doesn't bother you too much, then enjoy your new TV!

powerstarprince said:

I understand that the Sony Bravia X74K/X74L would be sufficient for me. The 65-inch TV would have done well. But I'm doubtful whether the TV can fit on the wall.

I thought the Samsung Frame TV had a better picture quality, more features and better design. It would be well spent for an additional 20k price. But I'm doubtful whether I can purchase the TV below Rs 70,000.

I was interested in the LG A2 55-inch TV while it was under sale. The Sales rep told me that entry-level LG OLEDs are not that great. I do not want to spend more than 100k for a better OLED TV.

Are the Samsung QN85C and QN90B FALD TVs? I saw their picture quality was even better. I was quoted Rs 90,000 for the QN85C and Rs 1,00,000 for the QN90B models. But again, the TVs would be an overkill for my usage.

My choice again comes down to Sony X74L vs Samsung the Frame. Why is a higher refresh rate, such as 100Hz, not better than the regular 50Hz on a TV apart from gaming?

I think the Frame TV is more similar to Q70C than Q60C. It also comes close to the Q80C. It means the Frame (2022) uses mini-LEDs. Here's the order from Samsung TVs:
QLED: Q60C (Entry-level), Q70C (Upper entry-level), The Frame (Upper entry-level), Q80C (Lower mid-range)
Neo QLED: QN85C (Mid-range), QN90C (Upper mid-range)

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I recently got 55inch QN90B, it has 504 dimming zones. I feel HDR is really good, just need more brightness for viewing HDR content in daytime.

I am having motion sickness with this tv, do you know how to fix it.

__bychance said:

I recently got 55inch QN90B, it has 504 dimming zones. I feel HDR is really good, just need more brightness for viewing HDR content in daytime.

I am having motion sickness with this tv, do you know how to fix it.

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Soap opera effect maybe?

Turn off motion smoothing or motion interpolation or whatever it is called in Samsung. Search in google to turn off soap opera effect in QN90B.

Also, what price? It is a 2 year old model now.

HDR on my LG 32" gaming monitor looks trash, never use it.

rockfella said:

HDR on my LG 32" gaming monitor looks trash, never use it.

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Always has been. You need OLED or proper FALD LCD monitor for good HDR. Also, HDR implementation on Windows is still considered worse than android or other TV OS.