Help regarding K9 web protection program

R

I have installed K9 web protection parental software in my desktop and had configured it to block porn and some other category websites. My brother has a laptop. Is there a way to block the same category websites on his laptop too, other than installing K9 in it [ofcourse only he knows the password for his laptop]. We both share a single BSNL broadband connection.

Install a hosts file on his PC:
BadHosts File

why you want to break into into his personal space

Also this: *familysafety.microsoft.com/Default.aspx

Since you guys share a single connection, best option is openDNS. I used it and its good.

dashing.sujay said:
Since you guys share a single connection, best option is openDNS. I used it and its good.

He wants to block connections, not UNblock them.

dashing.sujay said:
Since you guys share a single connection, best option is openDNS. I used it and its good.

Agreed.

I prefer Norton ConnectSafe DNS. It's free for home use and blocks pr0n and malware sites. You don't have to install anything, just put the DNS addresses into your router.

R

tkin said:
Install a hosts file on his PC:
BadHosts File

Does installing this script require admin rights.? If yes, i can't do it. Any other way.?

reniarahim1 said:
why you want to break into into his personal space

My broadband plan is Home 500 combo. 1.5GB limit per month. My brother all the time uses Facebook and Youtube viewing videos..etc. That's the reason

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I prefer Norton ConnectSafe DNS. It's free for home use and blocks pr0n and malware sites. You don't have to install anything, just put the DNS addresses into your router.

I will try this and report back. Thanks for the tip.

Either way, it's a wrong way to fix the problem. You should instead try to come to means with him (surely you must be adults about it). And changing the DNS is the safest/quickest way.

tkin said:
He wants to block connections, not UNblock them.

huh.?

dashing.sujay said:
huh.?

Think he misunderstood you. OpenDNS works fine for blocking sites too.

S

for using bad file host ..he may have to log on to his laptop right..???

^Just use OpenDNS and he won't be able to even figure out what's blocking. You just need access to modem/router. And the best part is you can control it (modify/remove restrictions) from any part of the world. If you need I can give a tutorial on how to do it.

^Gimme please

R

dashing.sujay said:
^Just use OpenDNS and he won't be able to even figure out what's blocking. You just need access to modem/router. And the best part is you can control it (modify/remove restrictions) from any part of the world. If you need I can give a tutorial on how to do it.

I have used OpenDNS. But i faced an issue with it. My BSNL Broadband assigns IP dynamically. Hence i need to update my IP each time a new connection is made. For this, there is a program called OpenDNS Updater which requires Admin rights to be installed in his laptop. Even if i did it (through some way), he can uninstall it easily. I faced this issue when we shared the desktop. I installed it and made restrictions but he uninstalled it to browse the restricted sites. (Don't ask me why i shared the desktop admin password with him, the real culprit is my dad..

rakesh-the gilli said:
I have used OpenDNS. But i faced an issue with it. My BSNL Broadband assigns IP dynamically. Hence i need to update my IP each time a new connection is made. For this, there is a program called OpenDNS Updater which requires Admin rights to be installed in his laptop. Even if i did it (through some way), he can uninstall it easily. I faced this issue when we shared the desktop. I installed it and made restrictions but he uninstalled it to browse the restricted sites. (Don't ask me why i shared the desktop admin password with him, the real culprit is my dad..

You have to use DNS updater in order to use OpenDNS. Why do you switch off the modem in first place? Plus the main question is why does your bro removes it? Does he knows about it? If yes, then you're doomed, or tell him not to remove it as its something installed by net company and required for good functioning of net.

R

dashing.sujay said:
You have to use DNS updater in order to use OpenDNS.

This is what i did exactly.

dashing.sujay said:
Why do you switch off the modem in first place?

Does all BSNL limited connection owners keep their modem switched on all day.? When not in use, we switch it off right.?

dashing.sujay said:
Plus the main question is why does your bro removes it? Does he knows about it?

Before installing the DNS Updater to block youtube, dailymotion and other streaming sites, he use to watch those. After installing DNS Updater, he came to know that some websites had been blocked. He searched for the program (DNS Updater) that made restrictions and removed it. Nowadays every possible solution to bypass restrictions such as this are available in internet isn't it.?

dashing.sujay said:
If yes, then you're doomed, or tell him not to remove it as its something installed by net company and required for good functioning of net.

He is a 3rd year engineering student. I don't think this answer will let him believe it.

M

No matter what you do, he can always circumvent it - You don't have access to his terminal (actually you can "get" that, since you are both on the same network, but "getting" it is a different issue

) , cant inject and protect the hosts and also can't use opendns parental controls.
You could try url filtering in the router, provided your router has that option but it would only stop him as long as he does not find a proxy you forgot to block. (but at least its a viable deterrent to some extent, since proxy speeds would be somewhat lesser)

My suggestion, ask him politely not to visit these sites, back that up with a threat to permanently disconnect him from the bb, and finally filter his mac if he connects wirelessly or disable the lan port if he connects with cable.

^They're using the same pc.

rakesh-the gilli said:
This is what i did exactly.
Before installing the DNS Updater to block youtube, dailymotion and other streaming sites, he use to watch those. After installing DNS Updater, he came to know that some websites had been blocked. He earched for the program (DNS Updater) that made restrictions and removed it. Nowadays every possible solution to bypass restrictions such as this are available in internet isn't it.?
He is a 3rd year engineering student. I don't think this answer will let him believe it.

You can try disabling add or remove programs. (don't kill me when he bypasses it

)

Does all BSNL limited connection owners keep their modem switched on all day.? When not in use, we switch it off right.?

You don't need to switch off your modem even for 6 months! (I never did it). And it doesn't eats up your bandwidth.

M

dashing.sujay said:
^They're using the same pc.

Really?

rakesh-the gilli said:
I have installed K9 web protection parental software in my desktop and had configured it to block porn and some other category websites. My brother has a laptop. Is there a way to block the same category websites on his laptop too, other than installing K9 in it [ofcourse only he knows the password for his laptop]. We both share a single BSNL broadband connection.

Edit: Ok, I re-read the whole thing again - guess you are talking about the part where he says, they shared the desktop at some point in the past - but I thought that meant before the brother got a laptop of his own.

^Yes, I meant for the later part and had almost forgot about the laptop.

R

dashing.sujay said:
You don't need to switch off your modem even for 6 months! (I never did it). And it doesn't eats up your bandwidth.

Is it.? You are lucky. Some 8-9 months back I use to switch the modem on and go to sleep by 11 after scheduling the desktop to start downloads by 2.10 am. The surprise came when i got my bill. Unaccounted MB's (in hundreds per hour !!) added up. When i lodged a complaint and inquired into it, they(so called BSNL officials) asked me to switch it off when not in use. They checked for changes with respect to MAC Address of my modem but as the MAC address was not changed in their records they advised me so. Do you know, once i complained them of low broadband speeds, they asked me to increase my RAM in order to get higher speeds.

Mario said:
No matter what you do, he can always circumvent it - You don't have access to his terminal (actually you can "get" that, since you are both on the same network, but "getting" it is a different issue ) , cant inject and protect the hosts and also can't use opendns parental controls.
You could try url filtering in the router, provided your router has that option but it would only stop him as long as he does not find a proxy you forgot to block. (but at least its a viable deterrent to some extent, since proxy speeds would be somewhat lesser) My suggestion, ask him politely not to visit these sites, back that up with a threat to permanently disconnect him from the bb, and finally filter his mac if he connects wirelessly or disable the lan port if he connects with cable.

Any other solution with respect to changes in modem level, say like Norton Connect safe.?

Mario said:
Edit: Ok, I re-read the whole thing again - guess you are talking about the part where he says, they shared the desktop at some point in the past - but I thought that meant before the brother got a laptop of his own.

You got it right this time

Update: I tried with Norton ConnectSafe. Norton ConnectSafe works only if we change to their mentioned IP address under TCP/IP property settings and not on modem settings. I changed my DNS relay and DNS Client in modem page with Norton ConnectSafe IP's. But still porn sites (for eg) loaded. Only when i changed my TCP/IP property settings, a warning came.