high end phone advice needed.

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One of my family members is going to buy a new phone.
Budget is no problem suggestions for android only.
User is a samsung fanboy, so if you are suggesting anything other than samsung the UI and systems should be like samsung.

if he ends up buying the gs4, ill post some pics

possible phones : HTC one. gs4 . anything else you can suggest.

Sony Xperia Z

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bhushan2k said:
Sony Xperia Z

as i said samsung fanboy, so when i told him xperia z as the first choice, said no. basically i am looking for opinions if people think the gs4 is really worth it.

HCgamer101 said:
basically i am looking for opinions if people think the gs4 is really worth it.

no .

IMO HTC one.

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sam said:
no .

what do you suggest then ?

HTC One is the phone to buy. It may not have SD card expansion but the superior build quality than the GS4 makes it a better phone any day.

thetechfreak said:
HTC One is the phone to buy. It may not have SD card expansion but the superior build quality than the GS4 makes it a better phone any day.

i have given the suggestion for htc one, but he may end up buying the gs4. Eitherways, you guys get exclusive pics and maybe a review.

SGS4....... HTC One has great build quality but on the software front, S4 beats One. Don't forget the camera of HTC. Acc. to GSMArena, its not upto the level of current gen flagship phones.

The so called "Smart" features like smart stay ...etc are good. Smart stay works fine in my S2. It would have been more optimized in S4.
Once upon a time, my fav UI was Sense UI. But now its Touchwiz UX UI.

If u say these are gimmicks, then ultrapixel & Blinkfeed are also gimmicks. Blinkfeed seems to be a copied version of WP8 UI.

anupam_pb said:
SGS4....... HTC One has great build quality but on the software front, S4 beats One. Don't forget the camera of HTC. Acc. to GSMArena, its not upto the level of current gen flagship phones.

The so called "Smart" features like smart stay ...etc are good. Smart stay works fine in my S2. It would have been more optimized in S4.
Once upon a time, my fav UI was Sense UI. But now its Touchwiz UX UI.

If u say these are gimmicks, then ultrapixel & Blinkfeed are also gimmicks. Blinkfeed seems to be a copied version of WP8 UI.

Some facts about htc one:

Blinkfeed = flipboard app
Ultrapixel camera = 808 pureview technology
Aluminium unibody = same as xperia p

bhushan2k said:
Some facts about htc one:

Blinkfeed = flipboard app
Ultrapixel camera = 808 pureview technology
Aluminium unibody = same as xperia p

Your point being? That the HTC One takes the best features and puts them all in one sleek package?

Ultrapixel and Pureview may give similar image quality, but the technology used is nowhere near comparable

darkv0id said:
Your point being? That the HTC One takes the best features and puts them all in one sleek package?

Ultrapixel and Pureview may give similar image quality, but the technology used is nowhere near comparable

LOL. Are you kiddin me???????? Ultrapixel is CRAP compared to Pureview. You can't compare Ultrapixel with 808 pureview. Have you even seen 808 pureview camera samples ?

"anupam_pm" said:
HTC One has great build quality but on the software front, S4 beats One. Don't forget the camera of HTC. Acc. to GSMArena, its not upto the level of current gen flagship phones.

AnandTech | Samsung Galaxy S 4 Review - Part 1

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Interestingly enough, fill rate is actually lower than on the HTC One. With so many variables at work here it's difficult to say exactly why this is, but the lowest hanging fruit is to blame it on memory bandwidth differences. Without getting inside the Galaxy S 4 (or more extensive poking around) it's unclear what speed Samsung is running its memory at, which could explain the differences here. We tried tossing the Galaxy S 4 in the freezer and re-running the test but performance didn't improve substantially

And

5 Reasons Why the HTC One is a Better Bet Than the Galaxy S4 - AndroidPIT

Honestly, How Many of Those Galaxy S4 Features Are You Actually Going to Use?

Gesture and eye control? They look amazing in Samsung's promo videos, but preliminary reviewers have said that these features work sporadically at best, sometimes not even registering when a user's eyes have turned away from the screen. When it comes to multitasking, the Galaxy S4 looks to be better equipped, but we'll have to wait and see what Android 5.0 / Key Lime Pie brings to the mix before we make any snap judgements. The truth is that, no matter what new phone you buy, you can mod it anyway you like. If you go with Touchwiz, you're definitely going to be modding anyway.

Few more reasons in the link above :wink:

lets not turn this thread into a "why we hate Samsung thread". S4 (indian version) packs best hardware but dated design. Anyone who doesn't have problem with the looks, go with S4. simply don't use the random features that Samsung added. but the pricing is still on the higher side.

and i bet even with all these comments saying HTC one is better, his friend will go for S4

randomuser111 said:
LOL. Are you kiddin me???????? Ultrapixel is CRAP compared to Pureview. You can't compare Ultrapixel with 808 pureview. Have you even seen 808 pureview camera samples ?

Yup. I've seen them.

I agree, the PureView pics do look better to me as well. Read the whole thing though. It's hard to say that PureView is overwhelmingly better; or if UltraPixel, as you phrased it is "crap".

my relative now wants ms office on android? is it there? Microsoft MS office?

darkv0id said:
Yup. I've seen them.

I agree, the PureView pics do look better to me as well. Read the whole thing though. It's hard to say that PureView is overwhelmingly better; or if UltraPixel, as you phrased it is "crap".

I meant "REAL" Pureview not Lumia 920.

randomuser111 said:
I meant "REAL" Pureview not Lumia 920.

In that case I agree, the 808 outclasses both HTC One and Lumia 920 in terms of image quality.

Still, my initial point stands, I didn't mean to say that HTC Once has the "best" camera, just that it is overall the best phone.

@everyone a decently clocked dual core processor and 1 GB ram in more than enough to smoothly run android and most of the apps in day to day use.
One should not based his buying decisions on things that wont be used even 5% of phone usage time.

Now if any company really putting hard efforts in innovation atm its HTC, From designing hardware to customizing software they really want end user to have best experience.

Samsung always boasts about loads of features in galaxy line of devices, Let me give you one simple example

In S3 sammy introduced a feature called smart stay, So screen will stay on if you are looking at the same.
This feature rely on front facing camera to track user's eyes and it hardly works in low lighting environment, in well lit conditions chances are like 50-50.

On the other hand in HTC one you can set screen time out to auto sleep, so screen will aromatically sleep when phone is not being used.
This feature use phone accelerometer to determine phone usage, and it works every time.

Small things like ability to customize phone from PC, HTC transfer tool feels good, its not like thing cant be achieved without these, but they just make life a little bit easier.

Being s/w architect my self it not very hard to guess that when features are part of initial roadmap and carefully included in framework and whey they are just patches to satisfy marketing bosses.

PS : I have used Galaxy Series for about 2.6 years (s1->s2->s3) and HTC one for 15 days

NoasArcAngel said:
my relative now wants ms office on android? is it there? Microsoft MS office?

Not ms office, but the play store has many others like quickoffice, polaris office, smart office etc.

HTC one is a great phone, s4 is good, but not above one.

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HCgamer101 said:
One of my family members is going to buy a new phone.
Budget is no problem suggestions for android only.
User is a samsung fanboy, so if you are suggesting anything other than samsung the UI and systems should be like samsung.

if he ends up buying the gs4, ill post some pics

possible phones : HTC one. gs4 . anything else you can suggest.

He should either buy HTC one or Xperia Z Samsung S4 may be good in terms of internals but its girlish design and samsung old plasticky feel yuck.If he is so inclined towards Samsung S4 why bother to create this thread.

darkv0id said:
Your point being? That the HTC One takes the best features and puts them all in one sleek package?

Ultrapixel and Pureview may give similar image quality, but the technology used is nowhere near comparable

I just wanted to say that there's no innovation from htc this time.. They simply used technology which was already introduced by other manufacturers..even that aluminum body construction video published few days back is same as xperia p's lol..but that doesn't mean m against htc one.. It's still a great device.. But in front of xperia z? Naah

Minion said:
He should either buy HTC one or Xperia Z Samsung S4 may be good in terms of internals but its girlish design and samsung old plasticky feel yuck.If he is so inclined towards Samsung S4 why bother to create this thread.

Exactly.. Even if we suggest 100 models, he will.still buy s4 lol..

sam said:
and i bet even with all these comments saying HTC one is better, his friend will go for S4

bhushan2k said:
...but that doesn't mean m against htc one.. It's still a great device.. But in front of xperia z? Naah

You are comparing One with Z,I hated all htc(except Leo)Android offerings,but One is a class act,Z absolutely has NO chance in front of it.
Have you noticed how long does it take to open the camera app in Z?
I am not even thinking about comparing the screens.
The only things that bother me in One is the Blinkfeed and Beats audio thing.

+1 to HTC One

HTC One is good but still the ultrapixel camera may result in its downfall.
Ultrapixel concept is good, it will get improved over the years

+1 to HTC One.

All the very good review sites(Theverge, Engadget and Anandtech) seem to favour it over S4.
Performance wise there isn't going to be any issue in either of them.
Software wise- UI- Sense, any day. Smart features are absolutely gimmicky.
Looks/feel- It's a landslide victory here.
Camera- One loses here in day shots wins in night shots and has OIS for videos.
Screen- Subjective. I prefer natural colours and no tint of LCD's. Some prefere saturated colours of AMOLED.

Don't forget things like Boomsound and Zoe which people would actually appreciate.

I would suggest the HTC One too. Been wanting to buy that for sometime now. After that Xperia Z looks good.

SGS4 has great hardware but dated looks (ugly?). It doesn't feel like a premium phone esp after Micromax is turning out good looking plastic phones that I have mistaken a couple of times for the S3. Even though I personally dislike it, the Note 2 is the only noteworthy phone that Samsung makes now.

But if your friend likes Samsung so much then why not go with the SGS4 ? It has the most powerful hardware right now and will enjoy great dev and community support, more so that other flagships except the Nexus 4 maybe.

In my personal exp, Samsung and Apple fanbois don't budge from their loyalties

Sarath said:
I would suggest the HTC One too. Been wanting to buy that for sometime now. After that Xperia Z looks good.

SGS4 has great hardware but dated looks (ugly?). It doesn't feel like a premium phone esp after Micromax is turning out good looking plastic phones that I have mistaken a couple of times for the S3. Even though I personally dislike it, the Note 2 is the only noteworthy phone that Samsung makes now.

But if your friend likes Samsung so much then why not go with the SGS4 ? It has the most powerful hardware right now and will enjoy great dev and community support, more so that other flagships except the Nexus 4 maybe.

In my personal exp, Samsung and Apple fanbois don't budge from their loyalties

Agree on every point of yours.