HP vs Lenovo · DIGIT-ARC

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Ok it finally comes down to this:

HP Pavillion 23 -b026in

i5 3rd Gen 3330 2.7Ghz

4 GB RAM

1 GB NVIDIA 610 Graphic Card

OR

Lenovo B 340

i3 3rd Gen

1 GB NVIDIA 615 Graphic Card

1 TB HDD

I have highlighted the USP of each. I am tied between the two. Both cost nearly the same. And perform also the same.

But the reason I am considering HP i5 + 1 GB NVIDIA.

I wanted to know if any one has any experience with either brands, good or bad. It could help me make my decision.

Thanks.

Get HP.

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^ even I thought so. I mean i5+ Nvidia? Woot!

What's your budget for the laptop?

X 0 N 0 D E said:
^ even I thought so. I mean i5+ Nvidia? Woot!

After you try playing game in that GT610/615 GPU, i am sure you'll add Nvidia to your blacklist.

^^ True story.

These are the strategies by companies to attract buyers.
Anything less than <GT630/40M is more or less =< HD 4000
Correct me if i am wrong

^Nah, 630M is much much better than HD4000. Vaguely, you can say hd4000 = 525M/620M, max. Sometimes it performs way below than that, sometimes, it catches 6630M. So pitting it against a single dGPU is not good. 7670M is the bare minimum one should go for if gaming has to be done.

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Um..those are AIOs. Not laptops.

Also...from what I'm told, to do the amount of Photoshop and little bit of graphics work, I need a 1GB of graphic card.

And gaming is not even last on my list.

^^ Well i do photoshop in my lappy.It doesn't have a card but photoshop works smooth!

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theserpent said:
^^ Well i do photoshop in my lappy.It doesn't have a card but photoshop works smooth!

Hmm...I forgot to mention, I will also do AutoCAD, but seldom. Plus some HD video viewing, surfing, MS Office, and all of it together.

May I ask what version of Photoshop you are on?

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Um..those are AIOs. Not laptops.

Also...from what I'm told, to do the amount of Photoshop and little bit of graphics work, I need a 1GB of graphic card.

And gaming is not even last on my list.

Photoshop basically requires good processing power, not graphics.

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dashing.sujay said:
Photoshop basically requires good processing power, not graphics.

Ok..so i5 or i3 (both are 3rd gen)? And my main question is side-lined, HP or Lenovo?

I5 would be better for photoshop.
As per AutoCad it may need a GFX card.
HD movies will run fine w/o a card :?:

but might be smoother with one :?:

X 0 N 0 D E said:
Ok..so i5 or i3 (both are 3rd gen)? And my main question is side-lined, HP or Lenovo?

i5, HP.

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theserpent said:
I5 would be better for photoshop.
As per AutoCad it may need a GFX card.
HD movies will run fine w/o a card but might be smoother with one

dashing.sujay said:
i5, HP.

Thanks. But HP as a brand is trust worthy? I only heard Lenovo when I went to Lamington Road.

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Thanks. But HP as a brand is trust worthy? I only heard Lenovo when I went to Lamington Road.

Of course HP in trustworthy, plus its ASS is much much better than lenovo.

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ASS?

I am asking cause I've heard many people scream about HP as a brand/service etc. On the other hand Lenovo seems to be everyone's fav.

Afer sales support

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theserpent said:
Afer sales support

oh...thank you. But even for home usage?

Whats your budget?

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^ 45000 - 50000 max.

Consider
Dell New Inspiron 15R 3rd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 500GB/ 1GB Graphics/ Linux Laptop - Dell: Flipkart.com
Samsung NP350V5C-S02IN Laptop (3rd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 1TB/ Win7 HP/ 2GB Graph) - Samsung: Flipkart.com
Dell New Inspiron 15R Laptop (3rd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 500GB/ Win8/ 1GB Graph) - Dell: Flipkart.com

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Thanks theserpent. I already have two tablets At home. I don't want a laptop.
I am looking for a proper desktop ...

X 0 N 0 D E said:
I am asking cause I've heard many people scream about HP as a brand/service etc. On the other hand Lenovo seems to be everyone's fav.

HP lost its reputation due to older pavilion series heating problem. Its fine now.

X 0 N 0 D E said:
oh...thank you. But even for home usage?

Don't home usage electronics require servicing? Or would you like to run here and there multitude times for a simple problem?

Sam said:
After you try playing game in that GT610/615 GPU, i am sure you'll add Nvidia to your blacklist.

i lol'ed so hard...But he has 50K budget then why considering I3?

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dashing.sujay said:
Don't home usage electronics require servicing? Or would you like to run here and there multitude times for a simple problem?

Of course they do..but what are u saying...that HP service isn't good?

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Of course they do..but what are u saying...that HP service isn't good?

I can say its bad, the external vga output on my HP530 was causing issues, took it to them, asked 15k to change the motherboard(for a celeron dual cpu class mobo), took it to a laptop service center, opened it in front of my eyes, a pin has come loose, they put it back in place and soldered it, took 200/-, ran fine for over two years, so yes, it sucks, at least in kolkata :evil:

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Of course they do..but what are u saying...that HP service isn't good?

Its good. Next to Dell.

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tkin said:
I can say its bad, the external vga output on my HP530 was causing issues, took it to them, asked 15k to change the motherboard(for a celeron dual cpu class mobo), took it to a laptop service center, opened it in front of my eyes, a pin has come loose, they put it back in place and soldered it, took 200/-, ran fine for over two years, so yes, it sucks, at least in kolkata

Hmmm... now that sucks. 15K for a 200 rupee pin is wayyyyy too much. It not only shows their incompetency but also their attitude. This is what I was afraid of.

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dashing.sujay said:
Its good. Next to Dell.

I'm located in Mumbai and here Dell is great. But the guy above you made a very valid point. Charging 15K for a 200 rupee fault is far too much.
I'm sure people are rich enough to buy an expensive products but not stupid enough to pay 15k when the fault can b rectified for 200rupees.

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I'm located in Mumbai and here Dell is great. But the guy above you made a very valid point. Charging 15K for a 200 rupee fault is far too much.
I'm sure people are rich enough to buy an expensive products but not stupid enough to pay 15k when the fault can b rectified for 200rupees.

They were so arrogant they didn't even open the laptop, just heard the issue and straight said that mobo needs replacement, I mean shouldn't they try to see if it can be repaired simply, they would do so if it was under warranty :evil:

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tkin said:
They were so arrogant they didn't even open the laptop, just heard the issue and straight said that mobo needs replacement, I mean shouldn't they try to see if it can be repaired simply, they would do so if it was under warranty

You are right Buddy. Hmm... wondering what to do. Lenovo I've heard is pretty good too. And a big advantage is my engineer has a Lenovo certified shop. HP may be great but that could b for business and big corporate houses. Not so much for homes.

why dont you get a desktop mate ?

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AlphaQ said:
why dont you get a desktop mate ?

I already have one buddy. The thing is..it becomes too tiresome to clean the whole damn thing. Lots and lots of wires means lots and lots of dust. And we sleep right next to the system. So I have a fear it will affect our health. A long shot I know...but still.

Plus an AIO looks neat and has awesome features.

X 0 N 0 D E said:
I'm located in Mumbai and here Dell is great. But the guy above you made a very valid point. Charging 15K for a 200 rupee fault is far too much.
I'm sure people are rich enough to buy an expensive products but not stupid enough to pay 15k when the fault can b rectified for 200rupees.

tkin said:
They were so arrogant they didn't even open the laptop, just heard the issue and straight said that mobo needs replacement, I mean shouldn't they try to see if it can be repaired simply, they would do so if it was under warranty

Well, I can't think of any company which really charges couple of hundred bucks for some small internal issue. They straightway go for replacement. Official service centres rarely service any electronic part like motherboard. Even my friend with a dv6 was asked 14 k for motherboard replacement, and worse was, that motherboard was not available in whole India.

Thing is, there are always hiccups in ASS of any company, completely flawless like corsair service is very rare. A couple of bad experiences simply can't tarnish overall reputation of a company.period.

Now it's your personal orientation towards whichever company you like.

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I am still not convinced about HP. ANd my grouse against Lenovo is it is offering older gen specs at a newer gen price.

If HP is good for at least the next 4-5 years, I am good to go with it.