I got 88% ! gettin' new PC please help

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Hi all !
I am Sachin from Mumbai,
i got 88% in my class 10th exam !!
so my dad is givin' me a new PC with 60,000 to 65,000 budget !!!

Now i want an intel based PC -Only- ( not good experience with AMD )
so i hav narrowed to some parts below, tell me if i should add or change something from it:

Pentium D 830 3.0 Ghz - is pentium D 9xx series available in India ?

Intel 945 GNT based mobo - whats the cost of it ? and is 945 GNTLKR available here in Mumbai ?

2 GB DDR 2 RAM667 mhz - which one to get ? ( i mean the company )

Seagate 300 GB SATA HDD - okay na . . .

Lite-on DVD Writer + Lite-on DVD ROM

17 inch sony TFT LCD monitor - i dont know the name but it's around 16k can anyone tell me how its performance is ?

nvidia geforce 7600 GT or 7800 GT ;-)

USB Keyboard + USB mouse

Now, for all the stuff above, which cabinet + PS should i have ? i mean i can spend about 7k on it so what Power supply is good for above PC and what company should i go for ? 1 guy told me abt a VIP PS 500 watts for 4500 Rs
what are other good options ?

i also have 6.1 speaker system from Creative so will it be fully compatible with the onboard mobo ?

Please guys help me on this.
Cant wait to play Fear, NFS MW . . . . . . .

Thanks guys,
See ya all !
Bye !!!

Why are you going for Intel when you have the budget to buy AMD? Go for AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ (2.2 GHz).

And congratulations for the good marks and the new PC!

i think u should go for a SLI based PC. (7600gt SLI)~(15k)
it will even perform better than 7900gt which costs around 14k.
its 7900gtx (512MB) that costs 21k. (sorry about that)
POST EDITED
if u r willing for a SLI based PC, u will have to choose a compatible motherboard for it.

I think u won't get a 17" TFT for 65k with a SLI based PC.

I recomend go for CPU ::--
AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Processor Socket 939
Frequency: 2.6GHz
On-chip Cache: L1:128KB + 128KBL2: 1024KB + 1024KB
If u want to play games go for CRT monitor 19" frm philips best but costly rather than TFT...

47shailesh said:
I recomend go for CPU ::--
AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Processor Socket 939
Frequency: 2.6GHz
On-chip Cache: L1:128KB + 128KBL2: 1024KB + 1024KB

No, that's outdated.

Go for a CRT monitor if you prefer performance over looks. You will get a much better monitor at half the price and you can use the money saved on other things. Consider my monitor (Acer AF715).

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65K doesn't matter he can buy all the best components, the config has to be a balanced one

I would recommend AMD instead, cos U can easily buy an Athlon64 3800+ X2 in that budget, which will give much better performance then Intel 930/940 CPU & run a lot cooler

I would recommend

Athlon64 3800+ X2
Asus A8N-E, normal, SLI is not important, I find it just wastage of Power & money, one graphics card is enough, trust me
2X1 GB DDR400 RAM, run in dual channel & U won't need to upgrade anything in this PC for the next 3 years
XFX 7600GT PCI-E with 256 MB RAM
Harddisk size depends on your requirement, but Samsung & Hitachi are recommended
If possible, get an LCD monitor, it should fit, Samsung 713N should be good, else Samsung Syncmaster 793MB CRT
Keyboard, mouse & speakers according to your choice
At least a 400+W SMPS, look for WIP or Powersafe or, Colorsit
Sony DRU-820A DVD writer, skip it if Combo drive is enough for u

aryayush said:
No, that's outdated.

Go for a CRT monitor if you prefer performance over looks. You will get a much better monitor at half the price and you can use the money saved on other things. Consider my monitor (Acer AF715).

ya u can go for his monitor (awarded by digit), it supports 1600*1200 resolution & if u r a heavy gamer consider SLI.
TRUE POWER & PERFORMANCE = SLI

i think u should go for a SLI based PC. (7600gt SLI)~(15k)
it will even perform better than 7900gt which costs around 21k.

RU Dreaming ????? a single 7600GT should cost around 14k's ... how would u SLi them around 15k's ??? And where did u see that the 7900GT is 21k's ??

deathvirus_me said:
RU Dreaming ????? a single 7600GT should cost around 14k's ... how would u SLi them around 15k's ??? And where did u see that the 7900GT is 21k's ??

visit this:
for 7600gt @ 170$
*stores.tomshardware.com/search_att...=7600gt&Search=Search&page_id=5&lo_p=0&hi_p=0
7900gt costs around 13.5k
7900gtx (512MB) costs around 21k
i can get the lowest prices of the site here in delhi.

ashfame said:
visit this:
for 7600gt @ 170$
*stores.tomshardware.com/search_attrib.php?topcat_id=&form_keyword=7600gt&Search=Search&page_id=5&lo_p=0&hi_p=0
7900gt costs around 13.5k
7900gtx (512MB) costs around 21k
i can get the lowest prices of the site here in delhi.

Whoa...parcel me a 7900gt SLI (512 MB)

Hey man...its not less than $500...and in India, not less than 35k

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those prices are in $ not in Rs., besides with all the taxes etc, it becomes a lot ocstly then actual price

SLI is no go, & not required at all,

consider the one i gave, see if u need anything beyond that, cos u can also over clock the CPU to 2.4 GHz on air

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chandler people here are misleading you, they themselves know nothing.
I suggest that you post this thread in techenclave.com/forums.

Also, what bad experience have you had with intel,
go with amd for gaming period

Assuming that you want to go with gaing.
I suggest that you don't spend more than 10-15k on the cpu+mb combined go with amd 3000/3200 or opteron 144 class cpus with maybe amd Asus A8N E

Ram 1gb X 2 , no corsair supported on this mobo for Value Select, XMS is beyong your budget, normal transcend arnd 8.5k for 2gb(1gb X 2)

Graphic card, Geforce 7900GT period, about 20k
this budget is very veryu little for sli

sli makes sense only if you can afford to go in for 7900GTX not even 7900GT, do you understand?

ask me all your queries as I can help you better than maybe all of them here combined

that budget shd be ok for 160-25ogb hd
consider sound card

you can't afford anything greater than amd 3500 class cpu in that budget, i advise not to go for a high cpu as 3500 in that budget

for gaming, gpu is the main thing

in FEAR a normal cpu(amd 64bit 3000 or lower) and a FX 57 will differ in fps by less than 5%! with 7800GT or something as testbed

while in oblivion there is about 30-40% probably little more difference

as for psu, are u craxy to buy vip for 5k?

go with antec 450 watts or maximum 500 watts

antec 450 watts should be lke 3.5k or so and 500 watts should be 4-4.5k or so.

Hey u, think u r smart? First, u triple post, then u bash DIGIT FORUM, then u say the members r posting rubbish and finally, u challenge them all. Listen, whatever rubbish u have posted isnt special....all that info has been posted here several times, so stop bragging abt ur tech knowledge. :-?

===No FLAMES===

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Hmmm... a class 10 student getting a 60k-65k PC

I wonder why you need a dual core pc.... ? I suggest u go for single core 3200 +

cyrux said:
Hmmm... a class 10 student getting a 60k-65k PC

I wonder why you need a dual core pc.... ? I suggest u go for single core 3200 +

Now that is a lame. If he has the budget for it why wont he go for a dual core pc?

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Well thats because he get a better one when he actaully needs it.

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But why not get a dual core now? That way he won't have to upgrade later.

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i recomended Dual core, cos that way the PC will be enough for many more years to come, 3 years atleast, he won't need to add or replace anything

A highend GPU when paired with a Low end CPU can bottleneck the system, & games will be CPU limited

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that budget can't afford a dual core which will come for >15k.

The most important part is the graphic card and you can surely not compromise on it, other things don't matter much and in cases like FEAR barely matter after a limit

Try the following,
Amd 64bit 3000 + Geforce 7900GT
Amd 64bit 3700 + Geforce 7600GT

In majority of the games if not all, the first option will beat the later PERIOD

look at xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu, see for yourself how much games depend upon your cpu
moreover dual core for the time being is slower than the single core
Most games are gpu limited and not cpu limited, even a celeron more or less gives the same result as a FX 57 by differening with about a fps in FEAR in xbitlabs where tested by 7800GT probably

@MysticHalo, I can prove you wrong, if you can negate me, please do.

Well see an AMD 3200+/3500+ is enough for ur use,but if u want to go for a dual core processor then u can,go for a 3800+ X2.
But save money on ur processor and go for a LCD monitor.

Go for a 7800 GTX/7900 GTX. U can play most of the games at 1280X1024 ,(that what most of the 17" monitors will support,but there are exceptions....)

Mobo go for AUSU A8N-E (Its the best u can get in 6.5 K)
HDD go for 160/250 Gig SATA from Seagate
GO for a sony DvD burner..
A 450 watt SMPS ( From a good company)
And Samsung 17" LCD monitor ,,,,for around 14-16K.....
I think u should go for 1/2 Gig of ram.Try Corsair if not then go for a transcend or somethin..............

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7800GTX is not worth it, higher power than 7900GTX but performance of 7900GT

Consider 7900GT instead

Best bet Radeon 1900XT for around 30k or 7900GTX for the same cost, but gtx not my prefernce

Well, the first preference while going for a new PC should be a POWERFUL mobo, so that u dont have any trouble upgrading l8r. Since ur budget is good, u can afford to go for a good mobo which will cost arnd 10-12k. Next, invest wisely in a good processor...bcoz gaming isnt the only thing u have a computer for, and without a powerful proc, the computer is lame. I recommend sticking to a midrange card like X850PE(my fav.) rather than going for 7900GT or X1900XTX
Get a good processor, maybe X2 4200+ if u can squeeze up ur budget slightly. Finally, choose the other accesories as per the money left..like monitor,keyboard etc. PSU should be atleast 500W.

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7900GT, X2 4200+ is highly overbudget

Also, it's not like the PC will only & always play games, Dual core can be easily baught in 65k budget, infact a combination of Athlon64 3800+ X2 with 7600GT can be easily baught for 65K, although LCD has to be sacrifised

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Asus A8N E though for 5.5k is not bad, no need to waste 10k.
What work is the comp for, other than word processing,flash, gaming ,surfing, stick with low Amd 64bit cpus, you won
t get much diff

forget about X850 series

consider only 7900GT, Mystic doesn't know a thing what he is saying, he is just misleading you and spoiling your system.

@ashfame: The prices you mentioned are in US dollars, and as everyone knows, the prices in the US are almost as half as they are in India. It is just because of the greedy distributors here. Inspite of taking the taxes, duty, etc into account, the prices when converted to indian rupees is still much lesser. Just ask any distributor (if you have a close friend) what was the exact price in which that was imported and ask him to tell nothing but the truth. You will go nuts to hear the exact price.

Now for the actual topic. I also think that SLI is useless unless we have a 7800/7900 series and combining any two 7800/7900 is outta his budget. So I have the following config in mind for 65k.

M/b: Asus A8N-E Rs.5650
Processor: 3800+ X2 Rs.16200
Graphics card: 7800GT around Rs.19000
Cabinet: Since he has a budget of around 5k for cabinet and PSU, we can get Antec truepower 450W with a spacious cabinet with at least 2 cooling fans.
HDD: Seagate 300GB SATA Rs.5700
RAM: 1GB Corsair in dual channel Rs.4600
Optical drive: Sony DRU 820A DVD writer Rs.2700
Keyboard and Mouse: Multimedia kb and optical mouse from Logitech Rs.800
Monitor: 17" flat CRT from Samsung/Acer Rs.6400

Total around Rs.66000.

If he gets a PSU which is a little less expensive, then we may accomodate a 7900GT, though I am not sure of the exact current price. Can someone shed some light on this?

first usefull post by digitized.........

All other post must have confused him...in first place is he guy checking this thread....no reply form him abt the views

Config given by digi is quite good ...or i mi8 say the best he can get in odd 65K.....

Only change would be PSU with 500W to be safer side with future in mind.....

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Prices are not 2 times higher in India than in the US. High end video cards and LCD monitors may cost 50% more, but processors, RAM, hard disks, DVD writers are not more than 25% overpriced here.

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7800GT /7900GT is good, but is it required

He should usually go for a 17" monitor, weather LCD or CRT, so, playing over 1024X768 with 85Hz is either not possible or not required, for which a 7600GT with 256 MB RAM is enough, for quite some time

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Unless you are a hardcore gamer, a 7900GT is overkill. Better to get a 7600GT or even a X1800GTO which is much more reasonably priced and spend the rest on a good LCD.

drvarunmehta said:
Prices are not 2 times higher in India than in the US. High end video cards and LCD monitors may cost 50% more, but processors, RAM, hard disks, DVD writers are not more than 25% overpriced here.

@drvarunmehta: Well, I have also posted previously regarding the price situation here. If the prices are not double, then how do you explain the following?

Example of the government and the greediness of the distributors. Taking the exchange rate of $1=Rs.45 as of today, let us find out the prices in the US (lowest price from www.pricewatch.com and also www.newegg.com, which gives the best price among all online stores)

7900GTX 512MB : $ 472 = Rs.21240
7900GT 256MB : $ 286 = Rs.12870
7800GTX 256MB : $ 415 = Rs.18675
7800GT 256MB : $ 299 = Rs.13455
7600GT 256MB : $ 180 = Rs.8100
6800GS 256MB : $ 195 = Rs.8775
6600GT 128MB : $ 124 = Rs.5580

Now see the approximate prices here.

7900GTX 512MB > Rs.40000
7900GT 256MB > Rs.30000
7800GTX 256MB : Rs.29500
7800GT 256MB > Rs.20000
7600GT 256MB : Rs.14500
6800GS 256MB : Rs.13500
6600GT 128MB : Rs.8500

Waiting for clarifications. These are just a few examples. Well, I do not need to explain that most of the prices are near double.

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1)Processor : AMD X2 4200+ Dual Core 64Bit CPU ~ Rs 19000
2)MotherBoard : ASUS A8N-E - Rs 5,500
3)Memory : Kingston 2 x 1GB(2GB) DDR-400 RAM - Rs 10,000
4)Graphic Card : XFX GeForce PCI-Expres7600GT 256MB s DDR3 XXX Edition (PV-T73G-UDD7 ) - Rs 15000
4)HardDisk : 250 GB 7200 RPM Seagate SATA 2 Hard Disk - Rs 4,300
5)Monitor : Samsung/ViewSonic Black FLat 17" CRT Monitor - Rs 6,800
6)DVD writer : Lite-On DVD Writer - Rs 2,300
8>Cabinet : Powersafe 450 Watts SMPS - Rs 1,500 + Zebronics Gaming Cabinet with aTemp Display - Rs 2000
9)Keyboard : Logitech Black Multimedia Keyboard - Rs 499
10)Mouse : Logitech Optical Mouse - Rs 300
11)TV Tuner Card : Pinnacle PCTV - Rs 2500

Total - 68K

Only thing I wud like to change in digitized's combo is the GFX card--Get X850PE, its better than 7600GT..and invest the diff. in getting X2 4200+
X2 3800+ isn't the best value for money processor,try for X2 4200+..(IMO the best one is X2 4400+), but thats way out of the budget. This will push the budget to arnd 70k...but its better.

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mystichalo

how can X850PE better then 7600GT, it's only 5 to 10% higher in perforamance, but doesn't support SM 3.0 & HDR at all

Athlon64 3800+ is enough, while 4400+ is good but over budget

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gxsaurav said:
mystichalo

how can X850PE better then 7600GT, it's only 5 to 10% higher in perforamance, but doesn't support SM 3.0 & HDR at all

Athlon64 3800+ is enough, while 4400+ is good but over budget

yes correct ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd f*ck this world limit

@gxsaurav
1. Sony DRU-810A=Benq 1640
2. Sony DRU-820A=Benq 1670
All other Previous sony dvd burners are Lite-ON OEM's.

so why pay extra price??

gxsaurav said:
mystichalo

how can X850PE better then 7600GT, it's only 5 to 10% higher in perforamance, but doesn't support SM 3.0 & HDR at all

Athlon64 3800+ is enough, while 4400+ is good but over budget

SM3 isnt needed at the moment, nor in the line of the next instalment of games that are out this year. It doesnt make a hell lot of difference.
X850PE
and the performance difference isnt 10%, its more. 7600Gt is a midrange segment card, X850Pe is a high-end card.
If you want more, read this

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gary4gar said:
@gxsaurav
1. Sony DRU-810A=Benq 1640
2. Sony DRU-820A=Benq 1670
All other Previous sony dvd burners are Lite-ON OEM's.

so why pay extra price??

r u sure
any proof if possible sir

chota_rod_waala said:
r u sure
any proof if possible sir

Just go to club.cdfreaks.com forums and find out for yourself.

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digitized said:
@drvarunmehta: Well, I have also posted previously regarding the price situation here. If the prices are not double, then how do you explain the following?

Example of the government and the greediness of the distributors. Taking the exchange rate of $1=Rs.45 as of today, let us find out the prices in the US (lowest price from www.pricewatch.com and also www.newegg.com, which gives the best price among all online stores)

7900GTX 512MB : $ 472 = Rs.21240
7900GT 256MB : $ 286 = Rs.12870
7800GTX 256MB : $ 415 = Rs.18675
7800GT 256MB : $ 299 = Rs.13455
7600GT 256MB : $ 180 = Rs.8100
6800GS 256MB : $ 195 = Rs.8775
6600GT 128MB : $ 124 = Rs.5580

Now see the approximate prices here.

7900GTX 512MB > Rs.40000
7900GT 256MB > Rs.30000
7800GTX 256MB : Rs.29500
7800GT 256MB > Rs.20000
7600GT 256MB : Rs.14500
6800GS 256MB : Rs.13500
6600GT 128MB : Rs.8500

Waiting for clarifications. These are just a few examples. Well, I do not need to explain that most of the prices are near double.

The US prices that you quote are prices from online vendors. If you go to buy from a retail outlet in the US, prices will be higher.
The prices you have quoted for India are a bit on the higher side too. India dosen't have online vendors otherwise prices here would be a little lesser.
Further the prices in US are low because high end products sell in bulk over there, but there isn't that much of a demand for them in India, so prices here are on the higher side.
But yes, government taxes do add to the price here keeping these products even further out of our reach.

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@ Mystic majority if not all games today use SM3.0 and it makes hell of a difference, you don't need to argue about everything

Corsair value select ram X 2 isn't supported with asus A8N E, I made the same mistake, consider transcend or corsair xms which maybe double the cost

a 7600GT can play games fine at 1024*768, almost all games not all
FEAR shd be fine with soft shadows off, fine at 1024 and maybe fine at 1280*960 softshadows off, not sure of 1280, but these cards don't give a good gaming experience with too high settings

consider no less than 7900GT

spend more on card and less on cpu

conside Radeon 1900XT for arnd 30k if you can afford it

CLARIFICATION
for 17-22k in India you get a 256mb 7900GT, depending upon make, asus for maybe 19.5k approx, take an average of 19-20k for 7900GT,
7900GTX for 29.5k+tax and up, except xfx which is 38 and up, 7800GT for 17k, not worth it, 7800GTX and GT are outdated, not worth it, 7800GTX=7900GT in terms of performance(approximately), 7900GT takes less power
7600GT around 12.5-13k, actually regard it 13(+-100s)k for practical purposes, my frined bought a BIG about a month-two weeks ago for 13300, 6800GS was arnd 11k and 6600gt is around 7.5-8k maybe

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X850 and 7600GT are both mid range now and I will probably take a 7600GT even if the former is equally priced.

Todays Mid range> Prevous high end

I would prefer a 128mb geforce 6600GT > Radeon 9800XT 256mb

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This post has reached 5 pages in 2 days but the thread starter doesnt seem to give any kind of response for members writing their views. Is he even reading this at all ??

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digitized said:
Just go to club.cdfreaks.com forums and find out for yourself.

now SONY820A and benq 1670 are not cross flashable

cyrux said:
This post has reached 5 pages in 2 days but the thread starter doesnt seem to give any kind of response for members writing their views. Is he even reading this at all ??

Point! There are many people who just register, post the odd query or something and then just disappear. Anyway, there are some other people who do benefit from the replies.

@ digitzed
u need to find some good contacts,
ur contact list is outdated.
i can hav those in very less than u estimated.
will confirm & post them in 2 days as i am not @ my best these days.
Suffering from viral fever.
Pl wait for 2 days.