DIGIT-ARC read-only archive · snapshot: July 23, 2026

i love my india?

43 posts · originally from https://geek.digit.in/community/threads/i-love-my-india.93635/

T
threeonethree Original post #1
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM
So lets be practical and leave all patriotic feelings aside. These are the problems i am facing, i completely had it with this place:

1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?

2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it. people stare at me if i am playing some game on my psp and think that i ran from a mental centre if i have my ep 635 in my ears.

every 4th guy comes and ask "bhaiya yeh konsa chinese set hai?" (refering to the psp) . " bhaiya kya yeh battery se chalta hai?"

3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..

the higher end ones sell stuff at a premium. when i couldnt find a decent jean at these stores , i went to a mall which had a brand named "GAS" . the price of the jean was 6000 rupees but i didnt like it. it was completely overpriced.
why cant we have brands like apc , nudie jeans , acne etc in our god forsaken country?

a) in our colleges why cant they have an updated syllabus. why do they teach us how to program on that boring borland c++ everywhere? why does every single computer in the lab has windows xp and ie 6 on it which almost crashed on me twice in 15 mins , why cant we have linux in our college.why dont they teach us something that actually useful and fun?why dont they have textbooks as informing and fun as computer mags and websites. i study 2nd year engineering in IT . why doesnt any teacher know anything about IT? why do students get 100/100 in a computer subject but dont know how to use a mouse? why do they teach me maths when i dont want!?

---------------------------------------

personal--- things about my college and people around me

4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music like sonu nigam and pritam ( which i know is copied music). i tell them this but they dont care.

5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..

6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.


-------------

And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111

is it the world or is it just me?!


lots more but not now.
sorry about the typos.
i cant believe i typed this..
Faun
Faun #2
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:39 PM
glad you aren't among the herd. Live free.
2kewl
2kewl #3
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:40 PM
And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111

Hahaha...so true!
Faun
Faun #4
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:44 PM
So lets be practical and leave all patriotic feelings aside. These are the problems i am facing, i completely had it with this place:

1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?

2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it.

3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..

the higher end ones sell stuff at a premium. when i couldnt find a decent jean at these stores , i went to a mall which had a brand named "GAS" . the price of the jean was 6000 rupees but i didnt like it. it was completely overpriced.
why cant we have brands like apc , nudie jeans , acne etc in our god forsaken country?

a) in our colleges why cant they have an updated syllabus. why do they teach us how to program on that boring borland c++ everywhere? why dont they teach us something that actually useful and fun? i study 2nd year engineering in IT . why doesnt any teacher know anything about IT? why do students get 100/100 in a computer subject but dont know how to use a mouse? why do they teach me maths when i dont want!?

---------------------------------------

personal--- things about my college and people around me

4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music like sonu nigam and pritam ( which i know is copied music). i tell them this but they dont care.

5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..

6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.


-------------

And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111

is it the world or is it just me?!


lots more but not now.
sorry about the typos.
i cant believe i typed this..
1) lol thats a good thing and a bad thing too.
2) Yeah thats cruel, blame the stosh
3) People like brands not the quality, even if ratpoison is sold in name of some porridge with a brand, people will swallow it deep down throat without a question.
4) Thank yourself that you are not another joe.
5) Thats lack of art and amateurish attitude.
6) Yeah, people always talk about the weather

leave the gurls, puhleeze
iMav
iMav #5
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM
1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?
In India, be grateful for what you have. If the damn thing works and gives you even those 2 MBPS, thank the lord every morning.
2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it.
Well, this is just one of the many stupid things of any govt. India has had.
3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..

the higher end ones sell stuff at a premium. when i couldnt find a decent jean at these stores , i went to a mall which had a brand named "GAS" . the price of the jean was 6000 rupees but i didnt like it. it was completely overpriced.
why cant we have brands like apc , nudie jeans , acne etc in our god forsaken country?
Des badla, baes badlo :D
a) in our colleges why cant they have an updated syllabus. why do they teach us how to program on that boring borland c++ everywhere? why dont they teach us something that actually useful and fun? i study 2nd year engineering in IT . why doesnt any teacher know anything about IT? why do students get 100/100 in a computer subject but dont know how to use a mouse? why do they teach me maths when i dont want!?
Welcome to the education system of India, don't even get me started on this one.
4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music like sonu nigam and pritam ( which i know is copied music). i tell them this but they dont care.
Change your college. Don't worry, with time you will find someone with your taste.
5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..
Ah now, a lot of pople appreciate those movies, A Beauiful Mind, is right there at the top for me and many othes on this forum. And, Bollywood does have some really nice movies too. Give credit where due.
6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.
You are the only one here who appreciates Digit mag :p We only appreciate the forum :)
And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111
hmmm ... love problems? ThinkDIgit g33ks for a cause will certainly help you.
T
Jul 21, 2008 at 4:50 PM
no love problems here. i have a gf and shes different. I sat down and thought about these things jlt..
Pat
Pat #7
Jul 21, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Yea, good work! Its really so pathetic that hardware is expensive, we dont have broadband and buying jeans is a nightmare. We are so unfortunate.

Have a look at how happy this country and its people are

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93293
:rolleyes:
The_Devil_Himself
Jul 21, 2008 at 6:36 PM
So lets be practical and leave all patriotic feelings aside. These are the problems i am facing, i completely had it with this place:

1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?
It will come with time,we have a large no. of people to feed unlike some other countries,although Information penetration is a direct indication of informed educated masses but you dont really care about the nuclear deal when you have empty stomach.

2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it. people stare at me if i am playing some game on my psp and think that i ran from a mental centre if i have my ep 635 in my ears.




every 4th guy comes and ask "bhaiya yeh konsa chinese set hai?" (refering to the psp) . " bhaiya kya yeh battery se chalta hai?"
No wonder,Indian politics sux,afaik Intel wanted to start a plant here in India(a huge one) which could have brought down proccy prices quite a bit but Indian politicians managed to fuk it somehow.

And don't blame the masses,PSP is indeed ugly and huge just like my Zune,So just nod at whatever they say,like me.Ignorance is a bliss.

3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..
no comments.I need to google raw slim straight fit jeans first.

a) in our colleges why cant they have an updated syllabus. why do they teach us how to program on that boring borland c++ everywhere? why does every single computer in the lab has windows xp and ie 6 on it which almost crashed on me twice in 15 mins , why cant we have linux in our college.why dont they teach us something that actually useful and fun?why dont they have textbooks as informing and fun as computer mags and websites. i study 2nd year engineering in IT . why doesnt any teacher know anything about IT? why do students get 100/100 in a computer subject but dont know how to use a mouse? why do they teach me maths when i dont want!?
They are running a business dude!!

---------------------------------------

personal--- things about my college and people around me

4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music like sonu nigam and pritam ( which i know is copied music). i tell them this but they dont care.

5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..

6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.
OMG.where do you live man?Noobsland or something?


-------------

And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111
:O,you don't say that!
Thank god that you have REAL girls in your engineering college and their names doesn't end with a .jpg,:<.

and besides dumb sexy girls are gods premium gift to males,no sh!t.

is it the world or is it just me?!
nah,its probably just you.


I guess you haven't discovered the beautiful world of alcohol and cracks yet,:p.Just kidding kiddie.
dreamcatcher
Jul 21, 2008 at 6:58 PM
@threadstarter. How does it matter what people think? If you areplaying a game on ur psp, be happy playing it. Dont wander around and thus, be free of the comments that come your way.

The clothes you are talking about are mostly outsourced by companies. The levis jeans you wear may acutally be a product of bangladesh, ripped and cleaned with a Levi's sticker on top. Just get hold of a good tailor and tell him your specifications, Get your denim printed and do whatever you want. You get quality material in India.

taking of hardware,well ya...India is a late riser in this field. The prices are on the higer side.Btw, if you are bashing India, look at what Uk has to offer.The Ps3 costs about 300 pounds there and the games about 30-40 pounds each..India rox.

Nothing against the Education system in India, more than 25% of the people working in top companies are Indians and with our crap system we seem to do quite good.

As for your college friends,my friends in college are rock and m0vie freaks...if you are to blame, blame your college or locality.

Btw, you should also know that while in India, you are provided with cheap medicinal help. A doctor in the Uk charges uyou 100 pounds for a visit, unless you have an insurance. If your care goes down the drain, 100 pounds for an hour till it gets repaired.

be happy with what you have, i will post more if you are not convinced yet.

Most teenage girls are the same in all countries. they would know of an automatic lipstick applier, but you dont expect them to play with the psp, do u??
enticer86
enticer86 #12
Jul 21, 2008 at 7:00 PM
1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?.
Most of the India in still on Dial-up, be happy bro.

2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it. people stare at me if i am playing some game on my psp and think that i ran from a mental centre if i have my ep 635 in my ears.

Ditto. Man I just hate it when a multimedia handset is supposed to contain only "MMS" and the iPods are the hearing aids. And I so hate it when I am reading some pdf book on my cell and ppl peep into that.

3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..
Forget that, I coudn't get a simple basic blue denim from the over-hyped Levi's, for whatever price possible. Are we Indians wearing only monkey wash/ rugged/ otherwise stylised denims?? Why is the "stone wash" variety?


4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music .

Ditto everywhere. Thank you for making me realise I am not exceptional.

5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..

Reminds me of watching Casino Royale, next to a guy who was smelling so bad and was there to watch all the "hot scenes", and laughing when everyone else was. (everyone else laughed when a bunch of literate ppl laughed at something actually funny).


6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.
I guess nobody is into reading these days. And those who do, they are called NERDS.


And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey.. thats bad.. let them do what they feel like, do anything, but don't abuse them yaar.


WELCOME TO INDIA dude!
iNFiNiTE
iNFiNiTE #13
Jul 21, 2008 at 7:01 PM
And here I thought that this thread is about some serious issue like the fking dirty politics seen recently or more like rising inflation etc. :(

Dude, you mad about not having unlimited broadband and branded clothes... I mean seriously? :confused: For many people in this country there are far more important matters to think about.

The_Devil_Himself said:
nah,its probably just you.

+1 :D
rhitwick
rhitwick #14
Jul 21, 2008 at 7:13 PM
@ the_devil_himself
AGREED.............

Close d thread...........why try to understand him who is pissed off wid everything in this country.
Just one question to d threadstarter, u don't like anything in this country but what are you DOing for it?
dheeraj_kumar
Jul 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM
^^ Nothing at all, and join the club threeonethree, I feel the same way myself, and know a few others who think the same. I'm gonna leave the country to do my MS after I finish engineering, and come back to this ...place... for a vacation.
ilugd
ilugd #17
Jul 21, 2008 at 10:45 PM
hey you are india. all your whining is not gonna change that. try to get your friends to understand your taste and maybe try it. and as for the others, try to change things where you can. Change what you can, and have the patience to accept the rest.
confused
confused #18
Jul 21, 2008 at 10:54 PM
dudes, ok i'll keep it short: only thing thats cheap in the US is tech hardware/gadgets. rest everything from health care to a household maid cost serious $$$$. and forget abt education. believe me India is not as bad as it seems.

And about accepting western culture: u cant force anyone to accept it. maybe 15 yrs down the line things will be different.
abhijit_reddevil
Jul 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I too have my list of problems but I have learnt to live with it for the last 30 yrs.:)...Apart from all the problems (they will continue to exist), two things which strike me most is:

(i) Have some traffice rules in place and punish rogue drivers heavily to avoid accidents and rash driving.

(ii) Cut down on power cuts. It's really frustrating when you return home after a strenous day at work or you are getting ready to sleep at night, you become ready to switch on the fan at full speed or the AC, and voila, the power goes off for a minimum of an hour.

On the lighter side, if you are so frustrated, do something in the lines of Rang De Basanti.:p
Renny
Renny #21
Jul 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM
1. Yup even getting 1mbps speed on a 2mbps connection is a miracle(i.e with BSNL which everyone knows sucks), but Airtel gives proper speeds and world-class service so why not try Airtel?
And BB was introduced in India only recently, so it'll take time to get better speeds.

2. Ya you'll have to shell out loads of cash for latest hardware because MOST of India's population isn't tech oriented like the Japanese etc., people here are are more worried about the prices of daily commodities than about the prices of latest CPUs and GPUs available in the market ;) ,

This is because of the low per-capita income, but its gradually increasing and things will change gradually :) ,

3. And people ogle at fancy gizmos mostly because they're tempted to have such stuff but cannot afford it, this isn't decent but its not a crime, its just like a kid drooling in a candy shop ;) .

As to points 4, 5, 6:-

Dude everyone has different tastes, you comment about people who don't like tech, English flicks, and your kinda music,
But the people who don't like the stuff you like will be thinking the same thing about you, like how you couldn't like Sonu Nigam, Hindi flicks etc and calling you wannabe punk,

So just because they dont like your kindi stuff doesn't give you the right to call them n00bs :rolleyes: ,

And it isn't the world dude its just you :rolleyes: , learn to live with and tolerate "differences" of this sort,

And you call all this your problems?! Dude people are starving and dying and here you worry about such trivial things(like what people listen to and watch) :rolleyes: ,

And you judge a country on basis of points 4, 5, 6 sheesh man you are the n00b here :rolleyes: .
K
k6153r #22
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM
I hate women.

^^ forget that. (why the hell is there no option for stricking)

I too have similar problems.
1,2,3
Leave aside broadband, jeans, etc we are a poor country.
Sometimes, at least sometimes, some items are better priced.

Our slyllabus is *()#^@&*%#$%(@^#&*^*()@()#&. They still teach us C programs for command line. They have very limited HTML (I love the art of webdesigning). The teachers know nothing more than how to make a plain boring page displaying some simple text.
Our teachers know nothing but what they studied in their colleges. One said Windows 98 is the latest version of Windows, and other doesn't know what the hell is Open source.


BUT DON'T WORRY BROTHER, simpletons seem to have become the majority in our country.

Those born with brains, and correct teacher's mistakes are labelled arogants.

I'm glad god made me intelligent (yes I'll claim myself to be after seeing that people could be sooooooooo dumb, like some of my classmates.)


Regarding music, my taste is strickingly different, I like Tamil folk songs!

About girls...... did you really forget what I worte on top?
ilugd
ilugd #23
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM
i hate men, women and children. so whats your point? :p
<edit> hey it is not fair to edit your post so my post sticks out like a sore thumb.</edit>
Faun
Faun #24
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:14 PM
@k6153r
not straight...huh
Pathik
Pathik #25
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I used to feel the same 3 years back. Now I dont feel. (After seeing Equilibrium :D )
thewisecrab
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:05 PM
@threeonethree
Welcome to the club
I too listen to LP, Breaking Benjamin, Metallica, Green Day, Limp Bizkit but guys at my college (+2... I mean) shun me telling I'm angrezi :(
Till I found a group with my taste :)
Solution : Either find a group with your tastes in music OR dont give a damn
MetalheadGautham
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:09 PM
to put it simply, I neither agree with you nor do I disagree with you.

All this is because of the fact that unlike US, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Korea, etc, India is not uni-cultural. We have a variety of cultures and due to this some people seem stupid to others and there is a big communication and cultural gap.

If you find a place where people are like you, go there and live there and be happy. Let dogs be dogs and let cats be cats. You can do nothing to change them.
NucleusKore
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Your grievances may be genuine, but to make a long story short,

[size=+5]I love my India[/size]

and you too will if you realise to appreciate what you have rather than what you don't,

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Look at countries like Zimbabwe today, and feel fortunate.

Jai Hind !
T
Jul 23, 2008 at 9:39 AM
I really want to make something clear here , this is not a --i hate india-- thread . i just wanted to share my thoughts. i have nothing against this country , knowing that it feeds me. i am not a wannabe uk or american citizen.
rhitwick
rhitwick #31
Jul 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM
^I think ur doubts are cleared now as so many GYAN poured on u:D

Mods plz close d thread........
din
din #32
Jul 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I do not want to attack you on every point, but just my thoughts. Yes, I know you are not against India, still ..

1) No broadband: if you call that measly 2 mbps dataone with montly limit ,broadband! why cant i have a 20 mbps cheap and unlimited connection?

Ahh, remember those days when we had 56kbps modem and dead slow connections ? I remember paying Rs.120 for browsing in internet cafe which was on dial-up. Those were days just 4 or 5 yrs back. Things has changed a lot in the recent yrs (thanks to BSNL). Lil patience work always :)

2) i cant get the latest hardware without shelling out truckloads of cash. most of the latest hardware in india has heavy tax on it.

Tax is there for every product. We just can't do anything. Unless there is a move from IT people (which IT guy / student has time for such a movement ? lol ) aginst the heavy tax, it will remain the same.

people stare at me if i am playing some game on my psp and think that i ran from a mental centre if i have my ep 635 in my ears.

every 4th guy comes and ask "bhaiya yeh konsa chinese set hai?" (refering to the psp) . " bhaiya kya yeh battery se chalta hai?"

If you wear a Bermuda and go to a remote village in India they will stare at you and may even tell you - Bhaiya aap bade hokar bhi trousers nahi pahante ?- lol. I mean the environment matters. The people you meet are all new to these kinda accessories or gadgets. How can you blame them ?


3) i went out to buy a good pair of raw slim straight fit jeans.. like hardware, most fashion stores dont have the latest "models" . they all have @%y clothes. i coudnt find a decent jean! the brands available like levis, lee ,wrangler, spykar, etc etc dont cut it for me..

the higher end ones sell stuff at a premium. when i couldnt find a decent jean at these stores , i went to a mall which had a brand named "GAS" . the price of the jean was 6000 rupees but i didnt like it. it was completely overpriced.
why cant we have brands like apc , nudie jeans , acne etc in our god forsaken country?

First, there are not a big demand for such things. Not everyone want to wear those brands and it is not easy for the shop keepers to bring those. If there is a huge demand, they will sure bring it from anywhere. And prices - depend on a lot of factors (especially if they are imported)

a) in our colleges why cant they have an updated syllabus. why do they teach us how to program on that boring borland c++ everywhere? why does every single computer in the lab has windows xp and ie 6 on it which almost crashed on me twice in 15 mins , why cant we have linux in our college.why dont they teach us something that actually useful and fun?why dont they have textbooks as informing and fun as computer mags and websites. i study 2nd year engineering in IT . why doesnt any teacher know anything about IT? why do students get 100/100 in a computer subject but dont know how to use a mouse? why do they teach me maths when i dont want!?

First - Maths and IT are very much related. To build a good logic in any programming language, you need to learn maths.

Regarding syllabus, I agree. But learning C++ is not a bad thing. C and C++ are basics and by learning those two will help you learning any other languages.

4) i am having a hard time in college because all the people in the college seem like noobs. i listen to music like led zepplin , nirvana , plain white Ts , some classic rock oldies , underground hip hop etc, but these people find me strange and tell me to listen to good music like sonu nigam and pritam ( which i know is copied music). i tell them this but they dont care.

People prefer different types of music. Some prefer to listen only Hindi, some prefer to listen only English. Some regional languages. The people in your college or town may be more interested in Hindi songs or the songs by sonu nigam. It is just likes and dislikes of people.

5) And most people here wont appriciate movies like "the pianist" or "the beautiful mind" . they will reject a movie without even watching just because its in english. then they will happily watch that movie dubbed in hindi ( which loses all its charm of originality) . or watch bollywood movies which are ripped off from the same movies..

Same point as above

6) people in my college never seem to appriciate the best things in life which i appriciate ,like digit .. none has any reading habit . nothing.

I agree it is sure a bad attitude and behavior. We should appreciate good things, we should encourage reading etc. And may be you can start an initiative in this. No, not joking, start an initiative and it will sure become a success.

And the girls .. especially the girls .. none of them know the T of tech even while studying 3rd year computer science.. they have no taste nothing .they all listen to sonu nigam and wear pink tshirts and laugh without a reason. gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!111

Either their parents force em to learn IT or they learn it just coz the sake of it. Oh well, majority is like that. But exceptions are there too.

is it the world or is it just me?!

Sorry in most of the cases, it is just you :)

See the brighter side of life. When you travel in bus, do not curse that you do not have car. Think about people who not have any mode of transportation, yes people walk more than 20 or 30 kilometers to reach their work place in India. When you curse teh speed of internet, think about the people who do not have power (electricity) or telephone and lives in the remote villages in India (I very well know this as there was no electricity / telephone in my area till I complete my 12th Grade).

Always remember - The Glass is Half Full not Half Empty

And as Nucleauscore says - I also love India (does not mean that you hate), I am very proud that I am an Indian too. Not having a 20 mbps unlimited internet connection does not force me to think otherwise.

Good luck my friend :)
dreamcatcher
Jul 23, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Just imagine, if you had a 20 mbps connection and kept it on whole day, you will download 50 movies a day,and about 1500 movies a month. Just think of the money you are saving on buying DVD-R's :D
M
mehulved #34
Jul 24, 2008 at 2:06 AM
^^ Nothing at all, and join the club threeonethree, I feel the same way myself, and know a few others who think the same. I'm gonna leave the country to do my MS after I finish engineering, and come back to this ...place... for a vacation.
Please do tell us when you do that. We'll be so happy to have one less idiot, who anyways doesn't seem to see any importance of his motherland. We seriously need people like you to get out on their own.
shantanu
shantanu #35
Jul 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM
lol ^^ ! i think it makes a difference when you speak you hate your country ! you hate a particular thing ! you hate a leader :) , what do you do to make it lovable ? even a single thing , the best i loved with the movie " RANG DE BASATI" was they told us that we are the once who can change , nothing would happen itself, we have to make a step forward to make things happen for your country, jst cursing wont help ! and thinking like that would make frustrations even higher !

i dont find a reason to close it though..
dheeraj_kumar
Jul 24, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Please do tell us when you do that. We'll be so happy to have one less idiot, who anyways doesn't seem to see any importance of his motherland. We seriously need people like you to get out on their own.

Sure :) Yours is not the first negative criticism I've received, so I'll offer no arguments on my part. I just want to make it clear to everyone that I dont want to be branded as a UK/US wannabe without an ounce of patriotism. I like India, considering it IS my homeland after all. I possess the same patriotism every Indian has, except that I dont like the current state the country is in.

Its quite simple, really. How many of you people have left your native village/town/city to seek fortune in another city? you still come back to your native for a vacation, right? Thats the case with me too. :)

I have nothing against India, this is my home country. I just want another one! :) One for my past, one for my future! Is that wrong?
dreamcatcher
Jul 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM
^^^Thats one of the more contradicting statements that i have come across in thre last few months. You love India, and you love it coz its an obligation, this being your homeland. Great. It would have been better off, if you would have just despised the idea of being born in India and slanged it left right and centre. Dont add insult to injury by pulling out innoucuous and obligatory statements.
ilugd
ilugd #38
Jul 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Lets leave out love out of the equation right now.
What you are saying is that you would prefer to be elsewhere, but would like to come back to your homeplace because of its nostalgic value. As I see it, nothing wrong in what you think. But as the others here are saying, India has its redeeming points too.
And I don't think this thread should be locked. Freedom of speech anyone??
dreamcatcher
Jul 24, 2008 at 11:03 AM
It is so demeaning that someone loves his won country just coz hes born here. Its like loving your teeth coz you can chew biriyani with it. Look around, where else do you see a greater culmination of so many cultures sitting and sharing their life. Where else do you find a 30 year old man attending to his 70 year old father. Let me give you anecdotes on how life is at the US.

I have a huge number of relatives there and these are directly quoted from them..

1)In the US, you have these slumber parties or whatever, you are to bring a delicacy, made at your place and should be enough to pertain to the Guests. So consider, there are 10 families, and therfore 10 dishes. In India, we would hand over the food to the hosts and then wait for them to empty it and return us the vessel. In America, the guests are obliged to take back the vessel with whatever food left in it. My Aunt was so shocked, she abstained from attending such parties anymore

2)how would you react if after scolding or slapping your son/daughter, the police come banging at your door with an arrest warrant in hand? Yea, in the US, it is customary for yound children to call up the police if their parents behave badly with them. I know, you would defend yourself, by saying that we will raise our kids this way, that way....blah blah blah...but fact remains, you will always be in with an insipid fear of being handed over, worse still..REJECTION from your own kids. Think over that..is it worth it??

3)Now, life in the US is great, if you are there, ruling on ur dads money.But if you are there through scholarship, you are expected to be extra good, be very polite with evryone. One report, and your scholarship will be cancelled. the same report on an European(rather a white) would be warned and let off.

4)While at work, you are expected to work the hardest with the least promotion prospects. So, monday to friday, is all work no play. The weekends are your to spend. But, you will be stuck with the "Asians" there too. The americans there expect you to spend money and the richer you are, the more firends you will have. Of course, there are exceptions, but quite scarce.

But, you will not befall the worst until you are there till the latter part of your life. No one to look after you, no one to support you when you are down. Your own kids going by their own ways. Theres always a longing to come back, and whn you finally do, you will see your family waiting with arms wide open. The you repent.
Plasma_Snake
Jul 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Well let me also jump in and say something.


  1. Life is not about cherishing what you dan't have but what you have and valuing it. When people gripe about the slow or namesake Broadband, one should remember that the word and concept of Broadband was alien to India 5 years ago.
  2. Not everybody is so rich that he can buy jeans of such Videshi brands, many of us are contended with getting just an odd pair from Charlie Outlaw. Be contended and ur "Contention Domains" will decrease.
  3. India is a country where more than 25% of the population is below poverty line, nation is ran by dirty, raggdy *** politicians, divided on Communal basis, segregated on the basis of religion and caste BUT still within just 60 years of Independence we are at World's envy for our growth and skills. I say, Don't believe the system, believe in the Nation.
  4. Well, love it or hate it, C is the base and it is taught using primitive interfaces because it is taught to all the students of all the streams, Mechanical,Electronics,Computers,Chemical everyone. Since it is also used by Electronics, Electrical and Mechanical students too for Circuit programming, Lathe automation etc. Institutes can't make distinctions over the level of education between streams. I do acknowledge the fact that Teachers are sometimes not adequately qualified or posses necessary skill or knowledge to teach a subject acc. to ones standards but we alone are not studying their. They don't have to take right decisions, what matters is the decision is taken rightly.
  5. All the ignorance possessed and presented by students and teachers alike in these matters is what makes true tech fanatics to absolve themselves to the higher call of self enlightenment by referring to abundant sources of knowledge present in the form of books in Library of College or here on the Internet with guys like us.:)
  6. The lack of interests possessed by these Boys and Girls is what is going to work in your favor you half-witted insipid BOY. If everyone was to become such an expert in the field of I.T, can you even imagine getting yourself a decent job? There will always be 10 before you in such line. Its for our own good that the world is full of such ignorant moronic dumbos and bimbos. This is what keeps the competition down. :cool:
  7. Well Girls, I can't say much in this matter (I never had a Girlfriend) except for a fact that I read on the net, "Every time a Woman opens her mouth it is either for blabber out crap or for a BJ":D. How true is it I don't know but the former part holds True acc. to my general observation. Girls will be Girls and let 'em be like that. In a million you'll rarely find a one that is up to your "Standards" of Brains,Brawns and Booty. :cool:
Well that is my projection of the situation from my viewport.:D Its all positive maybe coz I believe in Gita's saar,"Jo ho raha hai achhe k liye ho raha hai" or maybe because I live near to Kurukshetra. :D
abhijit_reddevil
Jul 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM
1)In the US, you have these slumber parties or whatever, you are to bring a delicacy, made at your place and should be enough to pertain to the Guests. So consider, there are 10 families, and therfore 10 dishes. In India, we would hand over the food to the hosts and then wait for them to empty it and return us the vessel. In America, the guests are obliged to take back the vessel with whatever food left in it. My Aunt was so shocked, she abstained from attending such parties anymore

Excuse me, but I think when you are invited to parties, every guest is requested to make something (some food) for everyone but that is not obligatory. You will not be thrown out of the party or denied entry if you do not make anything.

Is it good that in India, you make something (whatever small be the amount) and take it to a party or for someone only to find that you did not get some share of the spoils as you got back the empty container? The real deal would be not to return the empty container but instead with some other thing.

Usually the food taken in by the guests is enough for everyone, even though not everyone will go there with something.

2)how would you react if after scolding or slapping your son/daughter, the police come banging at your door with an arrest warrant in hand? Yea, in the US, it is customary for yound children to call up the police if their parents behave badly with them. I know, you would defend yourself, by saying that we will raise our kids this way, that way....blah blah blah...but fact remains, you will always be in with an insipid fear of being handed over, worse still..REJECTION from your own kids. Think over that..is it worth it??

Why would you scold or slap your son/daughter even for the smallest mistakes they make? Is scolding or slapping the solution to the problem? Children have a tendency to do whatever they are not told to do. You have to make them understand that it is not correct. I am sorry to say that I do not agree with you on this point.

And it is not mandatory for American children to call police/911 if they are slapped (physically assaulted, in their definition. But if the parents are caught, a case may be handed against them by the police.

Should this be in the fight club now?
dreamcatcher
Jul 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM
^^I meant slumber parties(or whatever they call it). they are different. You have so many different kinds of parties in the US, more than the number of languages that prevail in our country. :D

Yea, its not obligatory for the children to call up the police, i used the word "customary". Are you sure you have no problems with that?? And this does not cater only to beating ur children up, scolding them falls for mental harrassment which is a violation of the law.
shantanu
shantanu #43
Jul 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM
stop guys ! too much ! threadclosed..