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I think 'reincarnation' is a possibility.

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Neuron
Neuron Original post #1
Jan 14, 2012 at 5:41 PM
I've been having this thought for week or so.Since i don't have much to do in these holidays i thought of sharing my thoughts with you people.

The reason i say so is very simple.Well before our birth we all were nonexistent and we had no consciousness.But suddenly one day we came into being out of nowhere.Thus we came into existence from an nonexistent state.
Now,think what will happen after our death.It's the same old nonexistent state in which we were in before taking birth.Hence the state before and after death are exactly the same,the very state from which we become alive.So well,there is a big chance for us(not just humans,every life from out there which has consciousness) to be born again.

PS:We really need a philosophy section. :p
sujoyp
sujoyp #2
Jan 14, 2012 at 7:19 PM
Rebirth :D

Y should I care?? I would not be getting any benefit from the past...what if I may be adolf hitler...what difference does it make anyways:)
rhitwick
Jan 14, 2012 at 7:41 PM
Philosophy? I'm not sure of it, but may be a biology section for beginners.
RCuber
RCuber #4
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I usually dont believe in this but you need to check my case. I was born after my grand father died ( about 1-2 yr gap). I have seen his photo and many of his facial features matches with mine. my mom says that my body structure is also same, like broad shoulders, lean hands etc. my mom says even my behavior is also same. in my case I would say its the genes and nothing more than that.

I will reply in another 40 years to verify if my then 60 year old face matches his :p
Sarath
Sarath #5
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:23 AM
2 possibilities:

After life exists and after life doesn't exist.

1 observation:

You are wasting precious "alive" time in thinking about "after life" which either is bound to happen whether you think about it or not (in case it's true), even worse if it doesn't happen because then you are thinking about something that would have never happened.
abhinavmail1
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:50 AM
Buddy do u have girlfriend? If not make one .
I've been having this thought for week or so.Since i don't have much to do in these holidays i thought of sharing my thoughts with you people.

The reason i say so is very simple.Well before our birth we all were nonexistent and we had no consciousness.But suddenly one day we came into being out of nowhere.Thus we came into existence from an nonexistent state.
Now,think what will happen after our death.It's the same old nonexistent state in which we were in before taking birth.Hence the state before and after death are exactly the same,the very state from which we become alive.So well,there is a big chance for us(not just humans,every life from out there which has consciousness) to be born again.

PS:We really need a philosophy section. :p
abhinavmail1
Jan 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Man he is thinking so much by dis way at least his mind can be diverted to other stuffs
Prime_Coder
Jan 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Why to waste the present time thinking of the past time? If reincarnation is a possibility, then what does it make it so much difference? I don't think it will create that much difference.
BTW If I don't remember what had happened in the last month /last year, how can I remember what had happened before this life?
Neuron
Neuron #11
Jan 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Buddy do u have girlfriend? If not make one .

I am working on it :p

I seriously don't like being reborn.What if i get born as,like sujoyp said,hitler or someone worse.That'll be terrible.
Liverpool_fan
Jan 15, 2012 at 12:29 PM
The reason i say so is very simple.Well before our birth we all were nonexistent and we had no consciousness.But suddenly one day we came into being out of nowhere.Thus we came into existence from an nonexistent state.
Not at all. If you know basic biology, birth is not from nowhere but from pre-exisiting life.

Now,think what will happen after our death.It's the same old nonexistent state in which we were in before taking birth.
Your body stops functioning and you brain stops processing information. So there is no more existence of the person since the brain is gone. Brain = YOU.

Hence the state before and after death are exactly the same,the very state from which we become alive.So well,there is a big chance for us(not just humans,every life from out there which has consciousness) to be born again.
And how that state is transferred? There's no transfer of memories for a start. So that's a non-starter.

PS:We really need a philosophy section. :p
Fight club.

I usually dont believe in this but you need to check my case. I was born after my grand father died ( about 1-2 yr gap). I have seen his photo and many of his facial features matches with mine. my mom says that my body structure is also same, like broad shoulders, lean hands etc. my mom says even my behavior is also same. in my case I would say its the genes and nothing more than that.

I will reply in another 40 years to verify if my then 60 year old face matches his :p

Genetics.
Neuron
Neuron #13
Jan 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Not at all. If you know basic biology, birth is not from nowhere but from pre-exisiting life.

Your body stops functioning and you brain stops processing information. So there is no more existence of the person since the brain is gone. Brain = YOU.

And how that state is transferred? There's no transfer of memories for a start. So that's a non-starter.

You don't understand.I am talking about the 2 states of being,'conscious' and 'unconscious'.After death or before birth consciousness is absent.Of course,birth has to be from a parent and their have to be brain to feel selfhood.But consciousness wasn't there once.Now after birth,all of a sudden you have a selfhood.So my question is, won't i become conscious through/'beacuse of' some other brain, even after my death?.
Sarath
Sarath #14
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Did you ever kill a cockroach? Did it's soul come to haunt you till eternity?

If answer is not to the latter then...there is no after life.
Neuron
Neuron #15
Jan 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM
I am not talking about souls,i'm not talking about hauntings.I am talking about the possibility of being conscious again.Maybe the term reincarnation is misleading.As you can see i am not speaking of it in the usual sense.
Vyom
Vyom #16
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM
"I think 'reincarnation' is a possibility. "

Of course it is. Look at me. I am one prime example!
Faun
Faun #17
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM
I vaguely remember that I was a banyan tree in last incarnation.
Vyom
Vyom #18
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM
^^ A tree, hmmmm..
I knew your Avatar kinda resembles a tree.
skeletor
skeletor #19
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:41 PM
hmmm.
Liverpool_fan
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM
^^ A tree, hmmmm..
I knew your Avatar kinda resembles a tree.

The Binding of Isaac (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tree indeed. :|
Vyom
Vyom #21
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:46 PM
^^ hehe.... sense of humor man! I knew about Issac! :D
K
ksagar7up #22
Jan 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM
guyysss.....

we can see "Raaz Pichhle Janam Ka-Part-II" here with this guy

On Imagine Tv...lol
thetechfreak
Jan 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Some really interesting replies here.
Anorion
Anorion #24
Jan 19, 2012 at 11:28 PM
its a positive mindset, immortals dont need to be afraid of uh... damnation or something, or of passing or temporary things (this and other lives, this and other worlds), and it puts a lot of focus on progress as a collective group of beings as against progress as an individual, because your physical body is nada
this is just one part, keep reading into this, you dont need to "believe" anything, its more of a mindset and approach

if your friend just pushed you from a cliff, at least while falling you can hope of getting revenge in your next life its just so much more pro-active than thinking thats it your life is at an end "AAAARRGGGHhhh"

if you wanna go into the technicalities
-uh, the universe is a projection from one point, like a movie, this is Maya, so you can see things happening but the actual workings are beyond perception, that is they cannot be seen and is hidden, and everything is an illusion.
-the physical body is a skin or a casing, a vehicle for allowing the diamond body to enter into this physical dimension
-The diamond body is immortal and enters the physical world whenever a birth occors, a birth of any living creature

all of this is not inconsistent with science
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Alok
Alok #25
Jan 20, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Well your self identity is your brain and memories. And if reincarnation happens and we don't have our memory then what is the difference ??

And why think about it ? Do you want to discuss about last incarnation's good of evil job philosophy and their effects or similar things ??

Truely i don't care about it.....
Krow
Krow #26
Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 AM
I think it is possible too. But I don't think I'll ever find out if it is.
Neuron
Neuron #27
Jan 20, 2012 at 4:53 AM
Someone has to put an end to the random spawning of universes.

its a positive mindset, immortals dont need to be afraid of uh... damnation or something, or of passing or temporary things (this and other lives, this and other worlds), and it puts a lot of focus on progress as a collective group of beings as against progress as an individual, because your physical body is nada
this is just one part, keep reading into this, you dont need to "believe" anything, its more of a mindset and approach

if your friend just pushed you from a cliff, at least while falling you can hope of getting revenge in your next life its just so much more pro-active than thinking thats it your life is at an end "AAAARRGGGHhhh"

if you wanna go into the technicalities
-uh, the universe is a projection from one point, like a movie, this is Maya, so you can see things happening but the actual workings are beyond perception, that is they cannot be seen and is hidden, and everything is an illusion.
-the physical body is a skin or a casing, a vehicle for allowing the diamond body to enter into this physical dimension
-The diamond body is immortal and enters the physical world whenever a birth occors, a birth of any living creature

all of this is not inconsistent with science
,

Yeah,i understand, completely.Even the mysterious comma you put there.
Anorion
Anorion #28
Jan 20, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I cut id down to 1/3 of what I typed lol... just saying this is a valid branch of knowledge and science cannot be used to argue against it as it starts well beyond where science ends
Neuron
Neuron #29
Jan 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Okey.That i know right.I was just philosophising.
Faun
Faun #30
Jan 20, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Hyperboleandahalf is good at philosophizing too.

Hyperbole and a Half
Desmond
Desmond #31
Jan 20, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Look, Human Beings = Robots of flesh and blood. When the robot gets worn out, it shuts down and disintegrates back into the simple elements it was made from.
Neuron
Neuron #32
Jan 20, 2012 at 5:52 PM
Hyperboleandahalf is good at philosophizing too.

Hyperbole and a Half

Alright tree,whatever you say.

Look, Human Beings = Robots of flesh and blood. When the robot gets worn out, it shuts down and disintegrates back into the simple elements it was made from.

On a very higher level of perception,this is absolutely true as free will is just an illusion.
Nipun
Nipun #33
Jan 21, 2012 at 10:37 AM
It is possible if you're equipped with dead ringer.
Neuron
Neuron #34
Jan 21, 2012 at 2:54 PM
And what is a dead ringer?
Liverpool_fan
Jan 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Team Fortress 2. :D
*tf2wiki.net/wiki/Dead_Ringer
Neuron
Neuron #36
Jan 21, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Stick to the topic people.This is a matter of life and death.
skeletor
skeletor #37
Jan 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM
My incarnations are currently trapped inside me.
Anorion
Anorion #38
Jan 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM
lol@neuron

first immortals may already be born science will eventually prevent people from dying
Alok
Alok #39
Jan 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM
If you taking your soul as energy then surely it is being.

lol@neuron

first immortals may already be born science will eventually prevent people from dying

then production should be stopped also.
Neuron
Neuron #40
Jan 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM
My incarnations are currently trapped inside me.

You are talking about split personality disorder. :mrgreen:

lol@neuron

first immortals may already be born science will eventually prevent people from dying

I don't think people with common sense will choose to be an immortal.Sooner or later you are going to become sick of everything,unless you are rich and there is a mechanism that can erase brain memories.I will complete skyrim once, i will flash my brain and i will play skyrim again and will end up playing skyrim for enternity.
Alok
Alok #41
Jan 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM
^^Why you think there is nothing further Skyrim.
More Elder Scroll will come:-D:-D
A
Jan 24, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Life is just equilibrium thermodynamics + statistical mechanics. There is a 'n' stochastic probability of you being reconstituted, however due to random nature of such things, there can be no "reincarnation" of the "you" - you are at best, "recycled" into "n" possible outcomes.

The deal is - live your life and stop worrying about death and reincarnation etc. It's all a game of destiny anyway ;)
Vyom
Vyom #43
Jan 25, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Life is just equilibrium thermodynamics + statistical mechanics. There is a 'n' stochastic probability of you being reconstituted, however due to random nature of such things, there can be no "reincarnation" of the "you" - you are at best, "recycled" into "n" possible outcomes.

By far the BEST definition of reincarnation, Ever! :)
sygeek
sygeek #44
Jan 25, 2012 at 12:39 AM
So, you're saying, the same consciousness comes into being again?

1. If it did, it wouldn't really matter. No previous memory, new behaviour and entirely different being.

2. The answer is no anyway. Consciousness is very complex to understand what it is and if it is even a right definition to put it this way.

3. Consciousness isn't something that can be renewed just like that, it doesn't have any biological existence. It all comes down to 'souls' which are unlikely of their very existence.

TL;DR The answer is no.

Someone has to put an end to the random spawning of universes.
I have two problem with this sentence.

1. You said 'universes'.

2. You used the word 'spawning' which is very very wrong to put it that way.

Brush up your knowledge. Watch some Discoverey/Nat geo.

free will is just an illusion.
How do you say that?

Right now, I could have stalked you and killed you in the middle of the night, I won't.
Anorion
Anorion #45
Jan 25, 2012 at 2:20 AM
this random spawning of universes is scientific thought to explain mass that we can detect but that has no apparent physical manifestation
its basically 83% of the universe's mass that is unaccounted for, although thats a lot, thats still not enough for "infinite" universe spawns.

no place in re-incarnations, there is one universe, it lasts for 4 yugas and then gets remade, its a cycle that repeats itself, so all chronology is cyclic
Neuron
Neuron #46
Jan 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Life is just equilibrium thermodynamics + statistical mechanics. There is a 'n' stochastic probability of you being reconstituted, however due to random nature of such things, there can be no "reincarnation" of the "you" - you are at best, "recycled" into "n" possible outcomes.

The deal is - live your life and stop worrying about death and reincarnation etc. It's all a game of destiny anyway ;)

I am not worried about anything.I was just wondering if this was possible.


So, you're saying, the same consciousness comes into being again?

1. If it did, it wouldn't really matter. No previous memory, new behaviour and entirely different being.

It would because i don't wan't to be 'conscious' as, for example, a bird that is going to end up in a cage.

2. The answer is no anyway. Consciousness is very complex to understand what it is and if it is even a right definition to put it this way.

Your answer contradicts with itself.If consciousness is very complex to understand how can you answer 'no way' with such surety?

3. Consciousness isn't something that can be renewed just like that, it doesn't have any biological existence. It all comes down to 'souls' which are unlikely of their very existence.

Consciousness is very complex to understand.


I have two problem with this sentence.

1. You said 'universes'.

2. You used the word 'spawning' which is very very wrong to put it that way.

Brush up your knowledge. Watch some Discoverey/Nat geo.

I don't understand why.Also it is preferable to read some books on physics.Media just bends the actual fact so that they can keep the viewers interested.

How do you say that?Right now, I could have stalked you and killed you in the middle of the night, I won't.

Find out what Stephen Hawking has said about free will.
sygeek
sygeek #47
Jan 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM
I am not worried about anything.I was just wondering if this was possible.




It would because i don't wan't to be 'conscious' as, for example, a bird that is going to end up in a cage.



Your answer contradicts with itself.If consciousness is very complex to understand how can you answer 'no way' with such surety?



Consciousness is very complex to understand.




I don't understand why.Also it is preferable to read some books on physics.Media just bends the actual fact so that they can keep the viewers interested.



Find out what Stephen Hawking has said about free will.
To be honest, there's no science behind consciousness. It's mostly a philosopher's question. And that's why it is complex to understand.

I can say no, because there consciousness doesn't have ANY biological existence. It's a process. The definition of soul completely defies this logic.

Nat Geo/Discovery isn't media. Although to a certain extent, I do believe they oversimplify somethings which can lead to misconception among the masses but that's different. If you're conspired against these channel, read some books. Maybe watch some MIT courses which are available freely online. If you believe that these are again corrupted (but still believe what your "elders" say), learn everything from scratch by self-experiments/research.

Ignorance doesn't help, get over it.
Neuron
Neuron #48
Jan 26, 2012 at 9:01 AM
There's no science behind consciousness?You're are terribly wrong.Ever heard of Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness?

And when did i ever say anything about a soul?

I can say no, because there consciousness doesn't have ANY biological existence. It's a process. The definition of soul completely defies this logic.

What's this you are trying to say?You do know that consciousness is a biological process and yet you say it doesn't exist.This doesn't even makes sense.You don't even know what you just said and you can't prove yourself smart by posting self-contradictory statements.
Anorion
Anorion #49
Jan 26, 2012 at 2:05 PM
some things you cannot learn from scratch by doing research. It would take you upwards of 10000 years to arrive where you can start from right now if you want to start from scratch. Many things you have to believe, in fact, most things you have to believe. This is as true for science as nature. You cannot really see or observe many things, again, this is as true to science as to nature. No one has ever seen a strange quark, (and nobody can) only determined its existence. No one has ever seen a soul, only determined its existence. These leaps of faith are not that far from each other, and both can be equally true. This is just an example, reading into both science and religion is inherently stochastic, best we can do is bounce illusions at each other and hope that we can glimpse the truth in passing. Because the universe has a limit to knowledge, of even information storage and transmission. Call it Maya or the Uncertainty principle or whatever you blv :p
sygeek
sygeek #50
Jan 26, 2012 at 2:48 PM
There's no science behind consciousness?You're are terribly wrong.Ever heard of Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness?

And when did i ever say anything about a soul?



What's this you are trying to say?You do know that consciousness is a biological process and yet you say it doesn't exist.This doesn't even makes sense.You don't even know what you just said and you can't prove yourself smart by posting self-contradictory statements.
The best they have done is..
the society awards the annual William James Prize for an outstanding published contribution to the empirical or philosophical study of consciousness by a graduate student or postdoctoral scholar within five years of receiving a PhD or other advanced degree.
They haven't discovered anything yet. Although I do encourage further study towards this.

Thinking is a process, it doesn't have any biological existence yet is triggered by something which does. This is not the case with consciousness.We don't know what makes something from non-being matter to living being. So yeah, you have a heads up there.

What you're trying to say could mean,
There's a soul which transfers to another living beings upon the death of it's current being. That could mean this process has been up from the start. So, each human being is just a regeneration of another consciousness with a body. In this way, every homo sapien's consciousness is just a regeneration of a past species consciousness. Now we take this to the start of life.

Let's assume, life started from something which triggered many non-living matter into living matter. Somehow, this process repeated until finally one evolved to reproduce asexually. Now there's two species, the one which can reproduce and the one which cannot. This new species survives and the same process repeats. Now, what you're saying is, we're just a regeneration of consciousness of this first species. So there must be a life-death ratio which must be maintained so each living being has a consciousness.

Let's also assume life started from some million micro-organisms just like that (ignorance alert). Now, calculate the amount of living beings at this point, including micro-organisms. This will easily surpass the "million" organisms by a large number.

So, consciousness is not regenerated all the time but instead it just starts when a non-living matter comes into being. This should be enough.

But, let's go further and also assume that this process happens with only some living beings. Why does this happen with only few living beings and how can you explain that this consciousness (which itself independent of it's scientific reasoning) somehow magically reaches another living being randomly. This is what you call soul and apparently this is what you meant originally.

Now, each non-living matter can either come into being with it's own consciousness or someone else's consciousness. Where does this consciousness come to unfortunate beings who don't get their consciousness from someone else? Apparently, I forgot to mention that each human being already have a consciousness even before the body starts to go into infant stage. And that's the way it's been since the start (of life).

Well, the only other option is that somehow the other "wandering consciousness" have to somehow override the original consciousness.
Okay, damn, this is getting too complex for me. This is in draft mode. Don't reply. I'll come back later.
T
Tech&ME #51
Jan 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM
I would not differ in most of opinions given above BUT

I also sometimes think of 'reincarnation' , WHY ?

Because in present mind, I had some dreams which actually never came TRUE, or simply because of my childishness I missed a few things which I should have already done and now is not possible.

This is where our MIND starts to think of 'reincarnation' : To come back to this existence in the same way we are at present after our death and complete the unfinished business.

I get this feeling most often, is @OP also of the same opinion as I am ?
sygeek
sygeek #52
Jan 26, 2012 at 4:58 PM
I would not differ in most of opinions given above BUT

I also sometimes think of 'reincarnation' , WHY ?

Because in present mind, I had some dreams which actually never came TRUE, or simply because of my childishness I missed a few things which I should have already done and now is not possible.

This is where our MIND starts to think of 'reincarnation' : To come back to this existence in the same way we are at present after our death and complete the unfinished business.

I get this feeling most often, is @OP also of the same opinion as I am ?
That unfinished business may already be completed by you in a parallel universe, a more plausible theory.
T
Tech&ME #53
Jan 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM
hmmmm.....

So, can we by any means determine about the parallel universe ? can we ?
Neuron
Neuron #54
Jan 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM
What you're trying to say could mean,
There's a soul which transfers to another living beings upon the death of it's current being. That could mean this process has been up from the start. So, each human being is just a regeneration of another consciousness with a body. In this way, every homo sapien's consciousness is just a regeneration of a past species consciousness. Now we take this to the start of life.

Let's assume, life started from something which triggered many non-living matter into living matter. Somehow, this process repeated until finally one evolved to reproduce asexually. Now there's two species, the one which can reproduce and the one which cannot. This new species survives and the same process repeats. Now, what you're saying is, we're just a regeneration of consciousness of this first species. So there must be a life-death ratio which must be maintained so each living being has a consciousness.

Let's also assume life started from some million micro-organisms just like that (ignorance alert). Now, calculate the amount of living beings at this point, including micro-organisms. This will easily surpass the "million" organisms by a large number.

So, consciousness is not regenerated all the time but instead it just starts when a non-living matter comes into being. This should be enough.

But, let's go further and also assume that this process happens with only some living beings. Why does this happen with only few living beings and how can you explain that this consciousness (which itself independent of it's scientific reasoning) somehow magically reaches another living being randomly. This is what you call soul and apparently this is what you meant originally.

Now, each non-living matter can either come into being with it's own consciousness or someone else's consciousness. Where does this consciousness come to unfortunate beings who don't get their consciousness from someone else? Apparently, I forgot to mention that each human being already have a consciousness even before the body starts to go into infant stage. And that's the way it's been since the start (of life).

Well, the only other option is that somehow the other "wandering consciousness" have to somehow override the original consciousness.Okay, damn, this is getting too complex for me. This is in draft mode. Don't reply. I'll come back later.

I'm not saying that a new consciousness must come from a pre-existing one.Of course there can be an infinite number of unique consciousnesses for an infinite no. of beings.
I'll try explain my thoughts as best as i can.There has to be something which triggered 'you' with 'your current consciousness' to come into being(Let's call this trigger x).Science predicts that the universe in which we are in is expanding and one day it's gonna keep doing the opposite and eventually comes to an end. But however the process of formation of (other)universe(s) is not going to end.An infinite number of universes are going to follow the same pattern.Now in an infinitely long distribution of events the probability of finding a particular event is 1.Hence there is infinite occurrences of this trigger x pointing out that you are pro'lly gonna live the same life infinite number of times.Now there is another question.Can this same trigger cause you to become conscious but with a different life pattern?

Of course this isn't a proof to anything.I was only following my intuition while writing all that.I don't really want to argue about something which cannot be tested methodologically.Of course you can share your views.


I would not differ in most of opinions given above BUT

I also sometimes think of 'reincarnation' , WHY ?

Because in present mind, I had some dreams which actually never came TRUE, or simply because of my childishness I missed a few things which I should have already done and now is not possible.

This is where our MIND starts to think of 'reincarnation' : To come back to this existence in the same way we are at present after our death and complete the unfinished business.

I get this feeling most often, is @OP also of the same opinion as I am ?

This is what the hindu mythology/philosophy states about reincarnation.As you can see this is not what exactly i am trying to say.
T
Tech&ME #55
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM
I'm not saying that a new consciousness must come from a pre-existing one.Of course there can be an infinite number of unique consciousnesses for an infinite no. of beings.
I'll try explain my thoughts as best as i can.There has to be something which triggered 'you' with 'your current consciousness' to come into being(Let's call this trigger x).Science predicts that the universe in which we are in is expanding and one day it's gonna keep doing the opposite and eventually comes to an end. But however the process of formation of (other)universe(s) is not going to end.An infinite number of universes are going to follow the same pattern.Now in an infinitely long distribution of events the probability of finding a particular event is 1.Hence there is infinite occurrences of this trigger x pointing out that you are pro'lly gonna live the same life infinite number of times.Now there is another question.Can this same trigger cause you to become conscious but with a different life pattern?

Of course this isn't a proof to anything.I was only following my intuition while writing all that.I don't really want to argue about something which cannot be tested methodologically.Of course you can share your views.




This is what the hindu mythology/philosophy states about reincarnation.As you can see this is not what exactly i am trying to say.

Of course you do mate!

You are trying to say exactly what I mean to say.

Taking RE-BIRTH infinite number of times from the same trigger (soul).
So, your theory met my eyes!! :)

Hence, basically RE-BIRTH is nothing but transfer of the same soul from one living being to another upon death of the former.

As far as the universe theory is concerned, it is some what correct ( courtesy : Discovery Channel )
sygeek
sygeek #56
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM
I'm not saying that a new consciousness must come from a pre-existing one.Of course there can be an infinite number of unique consciousnesses for an infinite no. of beings.
I'll try explain my thoughts as best as i can.There has to be something which triggered 'you' with 'your current consciousness' to come into being(Let's call this trigger x).Science predicts that the universe in which we are in is expanding and one day it's gonna keep doing the opposite and eventually comes to an end. But however the process of formation of (other)universe(s) is not going to end.An infinite number of universes are going to follow the same pattern.Now in an infinitely long distribution of events the probability of finding a particular event is 1.Hence there is infinite occurrences of this trigger x pointing out that you are pro'lly gonna live the same life infinite number of times.Now there is another question.Can this same trigger cause you to become conscious but with a different life pattern?

Of course this isn't a proof to anything.I was only following my intuition while writing all that.I don't really want to argue about something which cannot be tested methodologically.Of course you can share your views.




This is what the hindu mythology/philosophy states about reincarnation.As you can see this is not what exactly i am trying to say.
Hmm, intuition has no place in science actually. I don't know how you're assuming the existence of other universes on the first hand but if it is so, then there is no end.

Actually, we'll always be expanding and there's no opposite, i.e., big crunch. Either the universe ends with all the black holes sucking up everything and themselves or the terrestial bodies expand so far that they become independent of themselves.

As far as the universe theory is concerned, it is some what correct ( courtesy : Discovery Channel )
Citation needed.
T
Tech&ME #57
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM
Citation needed.

For that watch the channel itself. The talk about universe / warm holes / etc many a times.... :-D
sygeek
sygeek #58
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 PM
For that watch the channel itself. The talk about universe / warm holes / etc many a times.... :-D
I don't like discovery actually. I was trying to ask you for the source.
Neuron
Neuron #59
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM
I don't know how you're assuming the existence of other universes on the first hand but if it is so, then there is no end.

"A second variety emerges from braneworlds that slam into one another, wiping
away all they contain and initiating a new, fiery big bang–like beginning in
each. As if two giant hands were clapping, this could happen over and over—
branes might collide, bounce apart, attract each other gravitationally, and then
collide again, a cyclic process generating universes that are parallel not in
space but in time
"

- Quoted from the book The Hidden Reality - Parallel Universes and the Deep Laws of the Cosmos by Brian Greene.Related to Brane cosmology.These are the other universes i am talking about.
sygeek
sygeek #60
Jan 29, 2012 at 6:41 PM
"A second variety emerges from braneworlds that slam into one another, wiping
away all they contain and initiating a new, fiery big bang–like beginning in
each. As if two giant hands were clapping, this could happen over and over—
branes might collide, bounce apart, attract each other gravitationally, and then
collide again, a cyclic process generating universes that are parallel not in
space but in time
"

- Quoted from the book The Hidden Reality - Parallel Universes and the Deep Laws of the Cosmos by Brian Greene.Related to Brane cosmology.These are the other universes i am talking about.
What I meant was, you're talking about other universes as if they're already in existence and proved but that is not the case. Although it's a plausible theory but still not proved.

Also, I don't like the oversimplification in that quote.
Neuron
Neuron #61
Jan 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM
What I meant was, you're talking about other universes as if they're already in existence and proved but that is not the case.

I kinda believe in multiverse theory actually.That may have caused my words to sound like that,sorry.