i5 Rig under 25k

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No nothing, No OC, nothing. Not for me so really can't say much. Just need some suggestions on the build above based on i5.

IF you are purchasing it for casual gaming then AMD Athlon II X4 is the way to go. It has a slightly lower performance in gaming compared to Core i5, but in all the other applications it performs slightly better or on the per with Core i5 due to having 4 physical cores compared to two Physical and 4 logical cores of i5.

My suggestion will be

AMD Athlon II x4 635 @ 4.7k
MSI 785GM E51 @ 3.6k
Kingston 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 C9 @ 1.55k
Sapphire HD5670 @ 4.8k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
FSP saga II 500W @ 2.1k
CM Elite 310 @ 1.5k
A.O.C 19" TFT (1440X900) @ 5.5K
Logitech K & M combo @ 0.7k

Total 27.25K. This computer will provide you very good multitasking capability with above average gaming experience. HD 5670 is far better than 9600 GT and also supports DirectX 11.

@ OP - I don't think there is any i5-540!!Its i3-540..
25k is too less for an i5(complete rig)!!
Go for Cilus's config.

@ssb: After checking mate - you are infact right!
@Cilus: 512mb 5670 not available here. 1GB a waste so was hesitant for 5670. Otherwise I agree, it is the Best Choice. Hence 9600GT

For monitor get benq G922HDL @ 5.5k. Order 5670 online. Cilus config is best for u.

^^ with Jas on online purchase!!
I think theitwares has 512MB in stock!!

Thanks guys.
@Jass : I suggested BenQ itself but it's "his" personal preference for LG/Samsung.

I prefer buying local(Delhi) as RMA is less of an issue (exlc. Rashi) face to face.

Smc is in delhi buddy. They should have it.

That's the sad part - they don't. And the worse part - they wouldn't even order it for me. Sigh!

Then 5570 is another option.

I don't think its a good substitute for 5670. It's a big compromise for me so currently I'm waiting for something great to happen while on my 880G chipset.

1GB isn't too expensive. 5.3k on SMC.
It is the same as 512mb but if 512 isn't available get 1gb.

The extra 512mb isn't VFM for the extra 600/- for someone like me on a tight budget. Thanks for suggesting.

Cilus said:

IF you are purchasing it for casual gaming then AMD Athlon II X4 is the way to go. It has a slightly lower performance in gaming compared to Core i5, but in all the other applications it performs slightly better or on the per with Core i5 due to having 4 physical cores compared to two Physical and 4 logical cores of i5.

My suggestion will be

AMD Athlon II x4 635 @ 4.7k
MSI 785GM E51 @ 3.6k
Kingston 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 C9 @ 1.55k
Sapphire HD5670 @ 4.8k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
FSP saga II 500W @ 2.1k
CM Elite 310 @ 1.5k
A.O.C 19" TFT (1440X900) @ 5.5K
Logitech K & M combo @ 0.7k

Total 27.25K. This computer will provide you very good multitasking capability with above average gaming experience. HD 5670 is far better than 9600 GT and also supports DirectX 11.

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Which i5's are you talking of? As far as i know , amd athlon x4's can't match any models of i5's. They compete with i3's. i5 6 series are dual cores with hyperthreading wheras 7 series are true quads with 4 physical cores sans hyperthreading.


As far as your suggestion goes, its great for the op and x4's are great vfm.

nbaztec said:

Requisites: Everything.
Purpose: Casual Gaming.

Kindly review my this build too:
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H Rs. 4200 x1
Processor Intel LGA 1156 i5-650 Rs. 8700 x1
PC Chassis Coolermaster Elite 310 w/o window Rs. 1600 x1
PSU FSP Saga II 400W Rs. 2000 x1
GPU Zotac GeForce 9600GT [GeForce 9600GT] Rs. 3600 x1
Monitor LG L177WSB [17" Wide] Rs. 6300 x1
Ram Kingston Single 2GB [ Value DDR3] Rs. 1550 x2
Storage Seagate Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA [500 GB - 7200 RPM] Rs. 1750 x1
Total Rs. 30,700
(Exceeds my budget, any suggestions?)
Also Needed: Some KB+Mouse combo (1k?)

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for 25k, a good rig is possible i think & infact from SMC's own bundle a good "value" gaming rig can be made:

Procy:AMD Athlon II X3 440 @ 3550.
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 @ 2500 (listed but not sure avl in SMC)
Ram: Gskill 2GB 1333 DDR3 @ 1500
HDD: WD 500GB Caviar Blue HDD @ 1775
GPU: MSI 5670 1 GB @ 5300
cabby: CM Elite 310 @ 1600 (taking your price)
PSU: FSP Saga II 400W @ 2000
monitor: Dell IN 2020 20" @ 6600
kb-ms: Logitech desktop @ 625
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TOTAL: 25,450. bargain & get that Rs.450 off.

finish

vickybat said:

Which i5's are you talking of? As far as i know , amd athlon x4's can't match any models of i5's. They compete with i3's. i5 6 series are dual cores with hyperthreading wheras 7 series are true quads with 4 physical cores sans hyperthreading.


As far as your suggestion goes, its great for the op and x4's are great vfm.

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You are right here. I was trying to say Core i3. My bad.

Sam, the 740G based motherboard is not good, When a Athlon II/Phenom II CPU is plugged, it works on Hyper Transport 1000 MT/S (HT 1.0) compared to 5200 MT/s (HT 3.0). So it reduces the memory bandwidth and hence performance. I think 1K extra to get a 785G chipset is much better option here.

Cilus said:

Sam, the 740G based motherboard is not good, When a Athlon II/Phenom II CPU is plugged, it works on Hyper Transport 1000 MT/S (HT 1.0) compared to 5200 MT/s (HT 3.0). So it reduces the memory bandwidth and hence performance. I think 1K extra to get a 785G chipset is much better option here.

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i know. it got HT 3.0 but works in HT 1.0 speed when a AM3 processor is plugged (strange complex logic).

but, Athlon IIs aren't that fast so even if it do gets bottlenecked the performance hit will be minimum (HT 3.0 speed matters only for Phenom II X4 & X6. that also when OCd). in practical sense there shouldn't be a noticeable slowdown. so if nbaztec can get a 785G board from Bio (or even a 760G may work fine) for around 3.5k or so, its a better buy.

Cilus amd uses 2 external buses. One is hypertransport and other is memory bus. Hypertransport is used to communicate with devices other than memory.

And he can get ASUS M4A78T M LE @ 2.7k. Its 760g. HT3.0

^^ so do Intel

memory bus is needed to communicate with the memory & its done via the onboard memory controller. & the HT (QPI in case of Nahalem) is used to communicate with the NB. & in turn NB communicates the graphics card or the video out ports (only in case of AMD IGB based chipset).

also are you sure this board HT will work at 3.0 standard speed & not get clocked down to something say 1.0 or 2.0.

Another thing about Hyper Transport of Direct Connect is they also connect the multiple cores present in the Processor die. So decreasing HT speed will also reduce the speed at which the cores inside the processor are communicating.

Yes sam asus supports ht3

Sam.Shab said:

^^ so do Intel

memory bus is needed to communicate with the memory & its done via the onboard memory controller. & the HT (QPI in case of Nahalem) is used to communicate with the NB. & in turn NB communicates the graphics card or the video out ports (only in case of AMD IGB based chipset).

also are you sure this board HT will work at 3.0 standard speed & not get clocked down to something say 1.0 or 2.0.

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Ya but with intel i series, the memory controller exists in the processor die instead of motherboard chipset (sb or something). This removes any memory lags associated.

Jaskanwar Singh said:

Yes sam asus supports ht3

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but will it retain its HT 3.0 when you plug in an AM3 processor. please confirm yaar.

vickybat said:

Ya but with intel i series, the memory controller exists in the processor die instead of motherboard chipset (sb or something). This removes any memory lags associated.

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yup. Intel's Core i* memory controller are best. maybe cause they support just DDR3 memory whereas AMD support DDR2 as well as DDR3. so a hit is inevitable.

Vickybat amd mem controller is also in processor die.

Sam all chipsets above 740g support HT3.0.

Yes , i knew that. Amd had integrated memory controller since athlon64 days i guess. But intel was using them on board since pentium upto core 2 duo's and quad's. Ram was commuicating with mem controller in northbridge via FSB( front serial bus). In this method there were memory latencies(wasted clock cycles) but intel uses higher bus speeds as a counter.

Architecturally amd was superior in this ground until the advent of nehalem and its derivatives that we know today as i series.

i know i know but my question was will it retain HT 3.0 speed once you plug in a AM3 processor or will it clock down to HT 1.0 standard?

@ nbaztec

My valuable pie of advice , just dont spend desktop like with 25K if so its for casual gaming u wont satisfied much (or) in other words it doesn't worth

If u already have system then i suggest u to save some extra money get medium power rig ! THEN U WORTH IT !!

Sam.Shab said:

i know i know but my question was will it retain HT 3.0 speed once you plug in a AM3 processor or will it clock down to HT 1.0 standard?

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I think all chipsets above 740 will support 3.0 but all below including it will be downgraded to 1.0.

Vicky in the days of intel FSB mem controller was in northbridge not south.

Yes sam.

Jaskanwar Singh said:

Vicky in the days of intel FSB mem controller was in northbridge not south.

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Thanks jas. Post edited. Southbridged housed ich or input output controlling hub whereas northbridge has imch or integrated memory contoller hub which also included the integrated graphics controller in mobo's having vga.