*www.cnet.com/news/privacy/india-orders-vpn-companies-to-collect-and-hand-over-user-data/
best democracy we having here
best democracy we having here
India Orders VPN Companies to Collect and Hand Over User Data
best democracy we having here
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In simple terms, if you subscribe to any vpn provider claiming "no logs policy" then technically you are breaking the law though as a small relief the vpn provider you subscribed to will be the one facing any legal action.
At this point, all I can say is govt can ## #### ########## (intentionally put #s there).
Can't this be challenged in court as internet freedom ≈ Real life freedom. Out constitution gives real life freedom, So taking internet freedom in a way is against law.
Time to go tor.
Take this as a bonus
dafak. what if i set up AWS EC2 in another country, setup openvpn and manage my own private key. How would indian govt get access to that data ? Even amazon doesnt have access to that private key.
the babus in courts are busy ordering staff to bring them soft drinks.
They can't. Besides this only applies to VPN companies. Since you are not one so this does not apply to you, if I understand correctly.
Then this law is such a farce. Its aim was not to stop maliciousness. Its aim was to monitor citizens.
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It basically means that any vpn provider having servers in India will have to keep logs for those servers at least or they will have to exit India by closing down their servers in India. It also means that any vpn provider based in India(thankfully no good one does) will have to keep logs for all their servers in all the countries.
@Nerevarine
If this is true, then this would only affect those who are outside India who use servers in India. So if you are in India and use a VPN server outside of India, you should be good to go.
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Yes that is correct. Still one should wait for official clarification from major vpn providers having servers in India.
That looks nice. Hopefully should also work fine.
well on public modes of transportation and goods transportation it would be ideal . on private vehicles its should be kept away as mandatory(it breaks ur privacy)
what if someone use a vehicle from a friend?, the friend would be charged of toll?
secondly the technology is tested in highly developed top of the class countries with top notch roads .
Roads shouldve been completely public funded, made and maintained.
To be frank , I dont like the idea of collecting toll at all(vehicles already pay road tax) as the govt is already collecting a hefty amount from taxes.
what if someone use a vehicle from a friend?, the friend would be charged of toll?
secondly the technology is tested in highly developed top of the class countries with top notch roads .
Roads shouldve been completely public funded, made and maintained.
To be frank , I dont like the idea of collecting toll at all(vehicles already pay road tax) as the govt is already collecting a hefty amount from taxes.
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The thing is, less than 10% of the population actually pays tax in any meaningful way so the only way for govt is to raise revenue is by way of indirect taxes which everybody has to pay(gst, excise, toll etc). For a simple example, a millionaire farmer having zero taxable income(agriculture income is exempt from tax irrespective of the amt) driving an imported suv will still have to pay gst(on vehicle purchase), road tax & toll.
Normally anything can be monitored by govt agencies even whatsapp chats for example so don't worry about our rights being trampled because we live in such atmosphere. Don't ask about terrorists coming from abroad what about those harbored by local parties like anti social elements. No offence here. Just saying.
Just look at this for once:Pak Missile Misfire: IAF Probe Blames More Than One Official; ‘Severe Punishment’ to be Meted Out
On the very same day evening when BJP won or results were announced that it won in 4 states.
Now tell me whose responsible for this?
India Says Reviewing Policy After Misfiring of Missile Into Pakistan
Indian missile misfire prompted Pakistan for retaliatory strike
I think what led to the above action might be this. Anybody who can use any VPN or any other of software by which they received orders to such above things.
Then should we chant Hare Ram or Jai Sri Ram if Pakistan retaliated.
Just look at this for once:Pak Missile Misfire: IAF Probe Blames More Than One Official; ‘Severe Punishment’ to be Meted Out
On the very same day evening when BJP won or results were announced that it won in 4 states.
Now tell me whose responsible for this?
India Says Reviewing Policy After Misfiring of Missile Into Pakistan
Indian missile misfire prompted Pakistan for retaliatory strike
I think what led to the above action might be this. Anybody who can use any VPN or any other of software by which they received orders to such above things.
Then should we chant Hare Ram or Jai Sri Ram if Pakistan retaliated.
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You are completely wrong. Professional armies don't run like your typical company with employees opening emails to read & follow orders, there are multiple levels of checks.
Then how this happened if multiple checks were needed.
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Perhaps we should write a guide on digit forums on how to setup openvpn VPS on free servers on aws/gcp/oracle. It should get more people into setting up their own servers once indian servers of good vpn providers start dissapearing.
I can do it in weekends if there is interest.
I can do it in weekends if there is interest.
Indians web hosting or VPNs won't disappear because this is the age of cloud computing. This is a increasing trend that we will notice.
India is the next big thing after China so don't fret man. Good times are ahead for all of us.
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You clearly didn't read the requirement proposed in the original law. Not all VPN companies will agree to storing and collecting data in servers kept in India.
Why so? Why because of costs maybe and any servers work the same way unless like in northern hemispheres since they might not need more cooling towers.
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*windscribe.com/features/no-logs#:~:text=TLDR; We don't keep,tier limitations and prevent abuse.
*windscribe.com/privacy
This is windscribe's representative's reply on discord.
I guess the "Decision Makers of the people" went to website of some VPN (to Bypass something they banned few years ago), and they saw the title "Browse the web privately" or something in the likes of privacy and untraceability, so as boomers always have been against the idea of privacy, they took this action. They can't ban VPN as offices use it so they demand tracking.
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That is why it was considered a serious lapse & some officers are going to face court martial.
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It is not a matter of cost but a matter of privacy. The whole point of using vpn is to have more privacy compared to using regular connection. If vpn servers in India are keeping logs for 5 years then it is no different from using your typical net connection where ISPs are anyway keeping records of your connection activity so why would anyone pay extra to use a vpn.
As expected .. can't expect much from a wanna be dictator in the name of democracy.
@K_akash_i Replying to your deleted message:
Tor is safe in the sense that your ISP will know that you are using Tor, but they won't know what you are accessing. However, it is possible for the government to restrict access to Tor as some countries already do. Though IIRC there are workarounds in Tor to circumvent that but I am not sure how that works.
Tor is safe in the sense that your ISP will know that you are using Tor, but they won't know what you are accessing. However, it is possible for the government to restrict access to Tor as some countries already do. Though IIRC there are workarounds in Tor to circumvent that but I am not sure how that works.