Indian intelligence agency

Everyone probably would know about Indian intelligence agency RAW. But its sad to note that there is no dedicated website for them from the year 1968!! :shock:

But see the FBI (www dot fbi dot gov) The website is very much sophesticated. IT has a section for fun and games(like cracking codes.) too. And they also offer intern ship (wow_)

But i cant understand why they didn't yet have a website.
Is it because, they choose to be hidden?
Are there not enough web designers in India?
Will it cost much which they can use somewhere?
Cant they manage it?

It's a government agency for goddamn sake. :-x

Anish said:
It's a government agency for goddamn sake.

The answer is there

i dont understand what is so much importance of having a website..... as long as our intelligence agency works well... i am fine that

Baker said:
i dont understand what is so much importance of having a website..... as long as our intelligence agency works well... i am fine that

this.

ico said:
this.

you are fast in editing your post :smile:

BTW i think what ithehappy pointed was you can't go to the agency to complain that Osama sent you a greetings card on your birthday.

But what if you want to contact the RAW, ?
Will you go all the way to the office?
Keeping and maintaining a website would help a lot isn't it?

Just contact the Police by dialing 100.

What? Police :!:

They'd definitely listen to you if you have something important to say instead of "What? Police :!:

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No, dude, i think you did'nt yet catch my idea..
I mean,
Maintaining a website

- can be used for the public for direct contact (instead of routing via police etc)
- They can list recruitment credentials
- They can list the job opportunities which will be static instead of searching the newspapers
- Let users submit crime and terrorism news

I mean, take a look at the fbi homepage, You will get my idea better. :smile:

Anish said:
No, dude, i think you did'nt yet catch my idea..
I mean,
Maintaining a website

- can be used for the public for direct contact (instead of routing via police etc)
- They can list recruitment credentials
- They can list the job opportunities which will be static instead of searching the newspapers
- Let users submit crime and terrorism news

I mean, take a look at the fbi homepage, You will get my idea better.

-- they are not meant for handling any public issues so that we can contact them directly , we have plenty of others doing that

--- they are not all recruit directly from public , they are selecting from toppers of IPS ,NDA,CDS and other expeirnced proffesionals

--- same as above

--- they are supposed to get the intellegince and stop the terrorist activities not users need to inform them abt any terror news

Anish said:
What? Police

ico said:
They'd definitely listen to you if you have something important to say instead of "What? Police"

FBI != RAW+IB+NSA ~ CIA

btw when our spine itself is damaged, our priority should not be worrying about having a pretty face.

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@DigitalDude: A country is made by its citizens. If you speak like this then there is no hope! Which country does not have issues? We have our own set of them, but there is no need speak so negatively about it. Aren't we working on those issues? Have some patience.

Ontopic: Though a website would be nice, maybe they were confused about what all to put on the site. Moreover there's always a risk of getting site/server hacked and putting the information in jeopardy (if at all any important information is there).

R

If any body have any problem then we have Police or CBI officials to contact. But RAW is a undercover agency and it works in the country's interest not every individual's interest. Even if they will have a website it will become a point of interest for the hackers.

but Anish is saying that FBI (or CIA for that matter) does the same job in US and have websites. I mean we don't need to do everything US does but still...this is internet age.

R

USA is much more hi-tech than India. Actually I don't think there is any need of RAW website. They can't disclose any information and even if they make any website then also they will not share much information on the website.

ROFL! Having a gadget to swipe your nose (I was about write a worse body part!) doesn't make US "hi-tech" than India. They are developed country, yes; but I do not know on what grounds you made that statement. We are developing nation, yes; but it does not mean we get to use only Intel i7 while they have i14 at their disposal!

Anyways, I concur with the reasons you said.

gagan007 said:
@DigitalDude: A country is made by its citizens. If you speak like this then there is no hope! Which country does not have issues? We have our own set of them, but there is no need speak so negatively about it. Aren't we working on those issues? Have some patience.

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umm what did I say negatively ? I said we have important problems to fix guys so start worrying about them and not this :grin:

gagan007 said:
ROFL! Having a gadget to swipe your nose (I was about write a worse body part!) doesn't make US "hi-tech" than India. They are developed country, yes; but I do not know on what grounds you made that statement. We are developing nation, yes; but it does not mean we get to use only Intel i7 while they have i14 at their disposal!

Anyways, I concur with the reasons you said.

gagan bhai you are speaking about people like us we are miniscule in number. btw only 15% of people have access to internet in India. so yes US is a hi-tech country than India and we have half the population below poverty line. we generally do not give importance to websites etc like they do in US.

btw one correction instead of NIA i wrote NSA

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Anish said:
What? Police

rajeevk said:
Even if they will have a website it will become a point of interest for the hackers.

Those are the things they have to deal with :!:

rajeevk said:
USA is much more hi-tech than India

Anish said:
- can be used for the public for direct contact (instead of routing via police etc)

honestly mate, you actually don't have much idea about what you are talking. You completely fail to understand the purpose of R&AW and don't even know the kind of stuff they do. Having a pretty fancy and face on ze interwebs makes no difference to me/them.

You can easily contact Police and CBI if you have something important to say.

Baker said:
-- they are not meant for handling any public issues so that we can contact them directly , we have plenty of others doing that

--- they are not all recruit directly from public , they are selecting from toppers of IPS ,NDA,CDS and other expeirnced proffesionals

--- same as above

--- they are supposed to get the intellegince and stop the terrorist activities not users need to inform them abt any terror news

Nicely explained.

ico said:
honestly mate, you actually don't have much idea about what you are talking. You completely fail to understand the purpose of R&AW and don't even know the kind of stuff they do. Having a pretty fancy and face on ze interwebs makes no difference to me/them.

You can easily contact Police and CBI if you have something important to say.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake and explanation dude... But, anyhow, its 2011 !!!! .. Such a great organization without a website makes me feel a little weired.

Anish said:
rajeevk said:

If any body have any problem then we have Police or CBI officials to contact. But RAW is a undercover agency and it works in the country's interest not every individual's interest. Even if they will have a website it will become a point of interest for the hackers.

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Those are the things they have to deal with

Yes. And there are many people who help in this by reporting the vulnerabilities if the find any.

I personally did that. Few months back I found 2 vulnerabilities on Mumbai police website by which I could hack the site. I went to Mumbai Police Commissioner office (IT dept) and met the site developers. Told them what is the vulnerability and suggested how to patch them.
They listened to me, patched it and then called me and asked to check the site again. I checked and they had patched the holes.

Some days later I received an appreciation email from Mumbai Police Commission office.

^^ thats a really appreciatable thing Bro.....

wow man..kudos to you Garbage

Thanks @Baker and @gagan007

Anish said:
But, anyhow, its 2011 !!!! .. Such a great organization without a website makes me feel a little weired.

till it does its job efficiently, i don't know what to complain about. also maybe they don't want direct communication from public, so no website. if you want to contact them, you may do it indirectly via Police/CBI.

rajeevk said:
USA is much more hi-tech than India.

And yet Americans rely on good old fashioned Frisking/probing/groping in airports :grin:

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Hi-tech 10 inch probing stick with thermal/nuclear sensors and a high def camera for A-holes LMAOROFLHAHAHAHAH!!!

Garbage said:
Yes. And there are many people who help in this by reporting the vulnerabilities if the find any.

I personally did that. Few months back I found 2 vulnerabilities on Mumbai police website by which I could hack the site. I went to Mumbai Police Commissioner office (IT dept) and met the site developers. Told them what is the vulnerability and suggested how to patch them.
They listened to me, patched it and then called me and asked to check the site again. I checked and they had patched the holes.

Some days later I received an appreciation email from Mumbai Police Commission office.

yay, great man,,,,.hats off to you

Thanks all.

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<shameless plug>
BTW, before that, I got root access to one of the ISRO's database containing all the details about scientist and professors attending a conference. And one CDAC server which I could pwn! Sadly, at that time I was either too lazy or too busy to report.

But, after Mumbai Police story, when I reported the vulnerabilities on the website of India's one of the top 5 IT companies, I got appreciated from them as well.

Another coin of this story is, some admins still don't care. For example, NBCU's one of the websites has data of almost 100K customers zipped, all their code test cases and results, etc. Even after contacting them many times, I got no reply.
BBC's forum's application server's web admin console was wide open for anybody to shut down / restart / undeploy the server. I send a report to them. They did remove the admin console, but never replied back.

But no matter if I get reply or not, I continue to report vulnerabilities and try to be a good citizen / netizen.

</shameless plug>

The moral of the post, there are people who are willing to help you keep your things safe.

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Ontopic:
I agree with many of the members view here. If they really don't have anything to share to the public, they really don't need a website.