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Intel Haswell

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vickybat
vickybat Original post #1
Sep 19, 2012 at 12:00 PM
As the title suggests , intel's all set to release its next tock ( new microarchitecture) codenamed 'haswell' based cpu's which will sport an all new 1150 socket.
As per intel's announcement in IDF 2012, haswell based cpu's will support new instruction sets like AVX2, FMA3 and TSX and will have an extra set of ALU , two new floating unit for FMA operations, extra storage unit ( register) and an improved branch prediction unit. Combine these and haswell performs 8 operations per cycle ( ivybridge did 6 per cycle).

Cache performance also has been improved as per intel but latency remains same. Buffer is improved though. Haswell consumes half the power than ivybridge thanks to the inclusion of a new power state called ix01. Transitions from one state to the other now uses less voltage. Haswell has been build from ground up to utilize the 22nm trigate fabrication to the core. Expect IPC to be even better.

However haswell's real strength lies in its new GPU which comes in 3 variants called GT1,GT2 & GT3 respectively.
GT3 is the word in town as it sports 40 EU's performing in 6670 levels. The differences here is that haswell's gpu now has its own voltage frequency and does not share that from cpu.
Separate voltage is fed through as its ring is completely decoupled from cpu.

Another significant thing is that haswell gpu now supports direct x 11.1 , opengl. 4.0 and for the first time includes opencl 1.2 acceleration. This should give trinity tremendous competition
and match it graphical abilities and opencl performance. It was noted somewhere that GT3 was running skyrim at 1080p at high settings and returned 40 -50 fps. HD 4000 on another system ran skyrim at 1366x 768 at medium settings and then only returned same fps as GT3. Expect much faster quicksync performance too.

Things look promising and all set for 14nm broadwell which will introduce an MCP (multi chip package) design which integrates processor,gpu and chipset ( north and south bridge or pch for intel) in one single die package.

Refer below for more info:

4th Generation of Core Microarchitecture: Intel Haswell - X-bit labs
abhidev
abhidev #2
Sep 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

seems like the gpu performance can match my HD 57770
amruth kiran
Sep 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

well that's definite good news... good thing i didn't upgrade my pc...
anyone know the price range??
MetalheadGautham
Sep 19, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

Expected Launch: March to June (Late Q2 or early Q3) 2013. Considering that I'll be upgrading from a Penium 4 506 (2.66GHz Single Core, No HT Tech) I'm in for around 16x performance boost :D
d6bmg
d6bmg #5
Sep 19, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

^^ Still running on P4 and that too no HT processor? :shock:
Way to go dude!
Sainatarajan
Sep 19, 2012 at 9:58 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

Good news , Am waiting for 5th or 6th GEN.
My bro is still having Celeron . 1.6 ghz and Roadrash lags in it.
Hrishi
Hrishi #7
Sep 19, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

It will also support DDR4 RAM in extreme models.
ranjitsd
Oct 5, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

Intel Z87 Haswell chipset has all 6Gbs SATA

Intel Z87 Haswell chipset has all 6Gbs SATA
d6bmg
d6bmg #9
Oct 6, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

^^ And no PCI. Sound-card killer.
sumonpathak
Oct 6, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

took them long enough :p
amruth kiran
Oct 16, 2012 at 7:45 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

anyone know the price range?? atleast approximately..

also should i wait for 4th gen or go ahead with a ivy rig?? wil i miss out on something??
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rajnusker #12
Oct 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

^^ And no PCI. Sound-card killer.

More of a cheap soundcard killer.
d6bmg
d6bmg #13
Oct 16, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

More of a cheap soundcard killer.

You think xonar ST as cheap? :rolleyes:
amjath
amjath #14
Dec 13, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Re: Intel Haswell (4th gen core microarchitecture) Discussion Thread

We have a leak showing haswell road which promises 14 Haswell desktop processors

*twimages.vr-zone.net/2012/12/haswell.jpg

Source
J
Jripper #15
Dec 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM
re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

Good thing I didn't buy new mobo and proccy this year :p
Will get this along with a new gpu around october/december next year. |m|


GPU performance seems to be insane if it can really perform upto 6670 levels.
M
mohiuddin #16
Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM
re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

No clock-speed bump?
Then what would we expect? 10-15% at best , from IPC?
And i don't think intel would be kind enough to change the heat-spreader from that of ivy bridge.
Thetrueblueviking
Dec 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM
re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

What about the stock cooler ? Any changes ?
debarshi
debarshi #18
Dec 14, 2012 at 3:42 AM
re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

As far as I have read about haswell, coolers supporting 1155 will support 1150 as well, without any add-on (according to Cooler Master)
Cilus
Cilus #19
Jun 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Well guys, Intel Hashwell reviews are out...both for the Desktop platform and the Mobile Platform. Looks like it is just a minor upgrade over Ivy bridge..the standard 7% IPC improvement but also having problems with 1st implementation of integrated VRM design.
The most interesting thing is actually in Notebook versions of this architecture, namely the IGP Intel Iris Pro IGPU.

Check out the reviews:-
AnandTech | The Haswell Review: Intel Core i7-4770K & i5-4670K Tested
AnandTech | Intel Iris Pro 5200 Graphics Review: Core i7-4950HQ Tested
The Core i7-4770K Review: Haswell Is Faster; Desktop Enthusiasts Yawn : Haswell Turns Into Intel's Fourth-Gen Core Architecture
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varun004 #20
Jun 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM
its a bad overclocker, gets hotter just like ivy. People with sandy and ivy do not need to bother with upgrade.
rijinpk1
rijinpk1 #21
Jun 2, 2013 at 1:51 PM
It consumes more power than ivy?
Cilus
Cilus #23
Jun 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM
It consumes less power than Ivy Bridge but the heating issue isn't related to power consumption. From Haswell, the Voltage Regulation Module or VRM is integrated inside the Processor package from Motherboard. This is the 1st implementation of the process and probably has some minor glitches. Because of that the CPU runs hotter and overclocking beyond 4.5 GHz is very tough. Anandtech was able to pull it to 4.7 GHz but they also said it isn't recommended.
ankush28
ankush28 #24
Jun 2, 2013 at 2:53 PM
hmm not much improvement.
My question is after the launch of Haswell which is expected in 20-30 days, the price of ivybridge and sandybridge will affect(will be cheaper?) in INDIA.

@ Cilus check my PM
guru_urug
guru_urug #25
Jun 2, 2013 at 10:56 PM
I've been following Haswell reviews and leaks too. The most improvement is in idle power consumption. Even though the IPC improvement is not huge, new buyers should consider it to ensure an upgrade path. LGA1155 is dead now. I myself will probably upgrade to haswell once the prices settle down by the end of the year.

@Cilus: Could you shed some light on which current PSUs will be able to handle Haswell's C6,C7 low power states? Most people buy PSU's so that they can reuse them across builds. I dont want to spend 5k more on a compatible PSU.
topgear
topgear #27
Jun 3, 2013 at 4:17 AM
game benchmarks :

*www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-4770k_8.html#sect0
*www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/5#.UavMy9tQsUY

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avinandan012
Jun 3, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

@topgear time to start a "haswell supported PSU list" thread?? :lol:
The Sorcerer
Jun 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

^^ No need. By default the motherboard manufacturers will have that setting turned off in the bios.

This is the MSRP for Intel Z87 chipset motherboards for Haswell Processors from Asus:
Product Price Z87 Deluxe/ Dual : Rs.26,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Deluxe: Rs. 21,950/-(Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Expert: Rs. 19,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Pro: Rs. 16,700/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Plus: Rs. 14,950/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 A: Rs. 13,150/- (Including Taxes)
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rock2702 #30
Jun 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

^^ No need. By default the motherboard manufacturers will have that setting turned off in the bios.

This is the MSRP for Intel Z87 chipset motherboards for Haswell Processors from Asus:
Product Price Z87 Deluxe/ Dual : Rs.26,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Deluxe: Rs. 21,950/-(Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Expert: Rs. 19,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Pro: Rs. 16,700/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Plus: Rs. 14,950/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 A: Rs. 13,150/- (Including Taxes)

Where did you get the prices from?
The Sorcerer
Jun 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

^^ From Asus India.
Cilus
Cilus #32
Jun 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

^^ No need. By default the motherboard manufacturers will have that setting turned off in the bios.

This is the MSRP for Intel Z87 chipset motherboards for Haswell Processors from Asus:
Product Price Z87 Deluxe/ Dual : Rs.26,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Deluxe: Rs. 21,950/-(Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Expert: Rs. 19,300/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Pro: Rs. 16,700/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 Plus: Rs. 14,950/- (Including Taxes)
Product Price Z87 A: Rs. 13,150/- (Including Taxes)

Thanks for the information. So we can use our existing PSU with a Haswell setup.
flyingcow
flyingcow #33
Jun 3, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

It would be great if someone could post the estimated prices for the i5 series of haswell :)
The Sorcerer
Jun 3, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

Intel India's PR at rare times flaunt their colourful attitude and silence treatment when I ask them about desktop processors.
topgear
topgear #35
Jun 4, 2013 at 4:16 AM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

@topgear time to start a "haswell supported PSU list" thread?? :lol:

there should be one but wait a little for PSU manufacturers to make their own list first and I'm sure that all reputed PSU manufacturer's will list all the Haswell Ready, Haswell Compatible psus on their website .. as of now here goes the list for corsair and seasonic PSU's :

Blog - Haswell compatibility with Corsair power supplies
*www.anandtech.com/show/6953/sea-sonic-and-corsair-power-supplies-certified-for-haswell
flyingcow
flyingcow #36
Jun 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Re: Intel Haswell Discussion Thread

It would be great if someone could post the estimated prices for the i5 series of haswell :)

^anyone? please
B
Jun 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Intel's next-generation quad-core processors benchmarked

Intel's next-generation quad-core processors benchmarked - Feature - Notebooks - CNET Asia
skeletor
skeletor #38
Jun 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Putting Intel Iris Graphics aside as they will only be seen in expensive mobile laptop... isn't this disappointing?

New socket and hardly 7% bump? lol.. Doesn't even overclock that well.
rijinpk1
rijinpk1 #39
Jun 4, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Battery life is important for laptops where haswell can win. At the price of iris pro graphics, i think one can get nvidia 750m occupied laptop. I dont find any improvement for desktop as the load power consumption is 11% more not much performance improvement.
vickybat
vickybat #40
Jun 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM
IPC of core architecture is kind of reaching a saturation. Design wise, it does not differ that much from sandy bridge ,which was again a nehalem derivative.
Apps which will use, newer instruction sets like AVX2 and FMA3 will have a greater advantage. In existing apps, its within 7%. Open-cl performance has also increased a lot than before.

Its disappointing from a new launch point of view, but this what a lack of competition does. AMD is very much responsible for this.
Haswell will shine in a more multicore avatar with 6 cores or more. Only a serious competition from AMD's upcoming steamroller might force Intel to build such SKU, to counter AMD.
Without competition, we are just stuck with quadcores.

The performance of i7 3930k is an indication, how devastating an intel 6 core can be, if launched in the mainstream market. But the need hasn't arisen.
avinandan012
Jun 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM
^that's true for every market. when there's no competition the consumers looses.

they limited the overclocking headroom with VRM inside the CPU chip. I guess Intel does not want people to get more value than what they are paying for.

I don't understand Intel's onboard gfx inclusion strategy. They include the top of the line graphics cores in the i7 range but lowest ones in i3s, this should be opposite. the people who buying a i7 for gaming will go with a discreet card same cannot be said for people buying i3 for gaming.
nikhilsharma007nikx
Jun 4, 2013 at 8:11 PM
I don't understand Intel's onboard gfx inclusion strategy. They include the top of the line graphics cores in the i7 range but lowest ones in i3s, this should be opposite. the people who buying a i7 for gaming will go with a discreet card same cannot be said for people buying i3 for gaming.
correct !!!
Cilus
Cilus #43
Jun 5, 2013 at 12:50 AM
here is the list of PSU supporting Haswell:
The big Haswell PSU compatibility list - The Tech Report - Page 1
debarshi
debarshi #44
Jun 5, 2013 at 1:35 AM
^that's true for every market. when there's no competition the consumers looses.

they limited the overclocking headroom with VRM inside the CPU chip. I guess Intel does not want people to get more value than what they are paying for.

I don't understand Intel's onboard gfx inclusion strategy. They include the top of the line graphics cores in the i7 range but lowest ones in i3s, this should be opposite. the people who buying a i7 for gaming will go with a discreet card same cannot be said for people buying i3 for gaming.

Well I guess it goes like "since customers are paying a hell lot more for an i7, they should get features befitting the price... as the price almost never justifies the improvement for most" though the logic should REALLY be what you mentioned.....

I'm waiting for a price drop for ivy i5...
The benchmarks don't look tempting enough.....
topgear
topgear #45
Jun 5, 2013 at 3:28 AM
here is the list of PSU supporting Haswell:
The big Haswell PSU compatibility list - The Tech Report - Page 1

thanks for the link and I specially liked the idea of CM ;-)

Cooler Master also proposes a workaround for PSUs that may lack support:
Should customers experience problems nevertheless, or would like to enable the advanced power saving mode on older power supplies that might not support it, there is a simple fix. Simply adding a single silent case fan to the system, connected to the power supply, should provide enough additional load to keep the system running in advanced power saving mode. The only disadvantage would be that power savings in idle mode on such a system would only surmount to around 2-3W instead of ~5W.

Hmm. Interesting.
guru_urug
guru_urug #46
Jun 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Primeabgb has added the new Asus 8 series motherboards to their website under "Latest Products"

Online IT Shop | Computer Hardware Shopping From Online IT Stores
topgear
topgear #47
Jun 10, 2013 at 2:46 AM
apart from Gryphon ( mini sabertooth z87 without TUF armor ) there's no other z87 mobos but most funny is the cpu they have .. only Intel Core i7-4770 cpu to boot with motherboards starting from b85 to h87 ( z87 ) bvut at-least something is better than nothing ;-)
nikhilsharma007nikx
Jun 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM
no there is a mpower and gaming msi edition of z87 mobos at SMC chek it out !!
topgear
topgear #50
Jun 11, 2013 at 2:43 AM
There's only one available ATM ie Intel Core i5-4430 Processor @ Rs. 12,125 [SMC]
icebags
icebags #51
Jul 3, 2013 at 3:25 AM
flipkart has got the whole lineup now it seems.
Hrishi
Hrishi #52
Jul 3, 2013 at 3:59 AM
There was a time , when we had enough headroom for overclocking our proccies and get good juice out of them. Seems like now Intel only wants us to stick with what we pay for.
NoasArcAngel
Jul 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM
i think its better to stick with ivy bridge for now for gaming and vfm factor. It really makes no sense to go for haswell, as probably the next cpu lineup will be based on a different socket.

*img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/06/18/380317-blog-leaks-intels-detailed-roadmap-for-2013.jpg

you are safe only with a i7 premium.
vickybat
vickybat #54
Jul 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM
i think its better to stick with ivy bridge for now for gaming and vfm factor. It really makes no sense to go for haswell, as probably the next cpu lineup will be based on a different socket.

*img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/06/18/380317-blog-leaks-intels-detailed-roadmap-for-2013.jpg

you are safe only with a i7 premium
.

No no you got it wrong there mate. Haswell refresh is nothing but broadwell which is die shrink (14nm) of haswell along with a new gpu architecture.
It will fit with current 1150 socket and won't have a different socket at all. Its just like the transition from sandybridge to ivybridge.
Ironman
Ironman #55
Jul 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM
I read about a USB Problem in z87 Motherboards , and a fix should arrive on july , are the fixed motherboards already here (kolkata) ??
How to know ?

Why Gigabyte has not launched any thunderbolt model ?
topgear
topgear #57
Jul 17, 2013 at 5:14 AM
check out cost to cost [ link ] but I've head that they sometime sell counterfeit products so watch out.
Ironman
Ironman #58
Jul 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM
what do you mean by counterfeit Products ??
topgear
topgear #59
Jul 18, 2013 at 3:01 AM
well, technically may not be counterfeit but they did deceive some customers if you believe what's going on here :

BEWARE of Fake Graphics Card at "COST TO COST" Nehru Place

now before saying that's a very old thread do read the posts in page no. 5 of the above link and I'm sure they will make you raise eyebrows

and how far some people can go over a matter like this ;-)

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/chit-chat/175975-am-i-doing-something-wrong.html
Vyom
Vyom #60
Aug 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM
I recently got my Intel Core i5 4570, haswell processor from Amazon. And now looking for a mobo to go with it. (I will most probably go with a H87 board from Gigabyte or ASrock).

But what I am shocked to see is this: Two Ways to Cool Down Your Defective Overheating Intel CPU

The article explains how Intel caught red handed by building defects into products by using TIM instead of fluxless solder in the processor. It also explains how to lower the temprature by deliding the procesor, which is too risky and effectively voids any sort of warranty. But this is ridiculous. :|
Cilus
Cilus #61
Aug 17, 2013 at 9:37 AM
^^ I think that is the issue with Ivy Bridge, don't think same issue is present with Haswell Processors.
rijinpk1
rijinpk1 #62
Aug 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
^^ I think that is the issue with Ivy Bridge, don't think same issue is present with Haswell Processors.
the article says , the same issue persists with haswell too.
The latest reports show that Intel’s latest chip, Haswell, also includes TIM instead of fluxless solder
that article seems scary. people purchases pc to make sure that no upgrade is required for the cpu and to last it 6-7 years without any problem(excluding gamers and enthusiasts). If the new cpu can not be even used for 3-5 years, WTH intel is doing? Their CPUs are SUPER COSTLY compared to amd counterparts and now comes with low quality. although it is to be proved that intel ivy /haswell will survive more than 3-5 years, I need amd to wake up on performance.
topgear
topgear #63
Aug 19, 2013 at 3:21 AM
I know this is from IB and with such over heating there's no wonder HW is plagued with same issue ... shame on Intel ! Those who got their hands on 2nd gen i5 and i7 cpus has one of the best chips in possession and as for AMD hope AMD is not going to take the same route and performance wise FX 8350 / FX 6300 performs well in their own price range.
skeletor
skeletor #64
Aug 19, 2013 at 3:25 AM
^^yup, Sandy Bridge overall is better. I don't see any reason of "upgrading" (downgrading).
T
Tech_Wiz #65
Aug 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Oh come on now. Haswell Gives Sandiebridge Performance + Keeps the room warm in winter.
saswat23
saswat23 #66
Aug 19, 2013 at 11:29 PM
^
Nice find :D
ramakanta
ramakanta #68
Jan 21, 2014 at 7:58 AM
Intel Haswell-Unlocked & Unleashed

*s27.postimg.org/f2re2cw3j/unlocked.jpg

I am confusing about Unlocked & Unleashed . what does it Means .. :-(
ASHISH65
ASHISH65 #69
Jan 21, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Re: Intel Haswell-Unlocked & Unleashed

*s27.postimg.org/f2re2cw3j/unlocked.jpg

I am confusing about Unlocked & Unleashed . what does it Means .. :-(

It means it have got Unlocked Multiplier.so you can OC it
ramakanta
ramakanta #70
Jan 21, 2014 at 3:08 PM
Re: Intel Haswell-Unlocked & Unleashed

It means it have got Unlocked Multiplier.so you can OC it

Unlocked Multiplier and OC means, please with details .
topgear
topgear #71
Jan 22, 2014 at 3:21 AM
let's keep it simple : most of the intel cpus have a locked multiplier ... it's needed to determine cpu speed for eg. i5 4570 has clock speed of 3.6 Ghz. The cpu has 36 multiplier and 100 FSB [ bclk ]. Now on a locked cpu such as i5 4570 you can't increase the multiplier to increase the cpu clock speed and Intel has mostly abandoned bclk oc on it's cpus [ unlike the older C2D and C2Qs ] due to several reasons. So if you want to oc an current gen Intel cpu to a good extent you need to buy a K variant cpu such as i5 4670K which has unlocked multiplier.

i5 4670k has 3.8Ghz clock speed but let's say this speed is not enough for you . So you can OC [ OC means overclocking the cpus clock speed ] it to say 4.5 Ghz just by increasing the multiplier just upto 45 from the default 38. With 4.5 Ghz clock speed the cpu will definetly perform much better than before. Of-course you'll need to have supporting motherboard, enough cooling and good PSu for OC.
sam_738844
Jan 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM
i don't think Haswell is that bad, its a proven fact that it really is a bad Overclock-er than ivy and sandy and for obvious reasons.

ET--"Every process node shrink, and the accompanying die shrink, reduces overclock ability. This is just a fundamental restriction of physics: As components get smaller, not only does transistor density increase (consuming more power) but there is also less surface area to radiate heat...

If you take two theoretical 3.5GHz chips, the one with the larger die size is going to be easier to cool, and thus capable of reaching higher overclocks"

For Ivy Bridge and Haswell are both based on Intel’s 22nm FinFET process, but the integrated voltage regulator exacerbates the issue. It also seems that Haswell’s built-in thermal throttling is much more aggressive than Ivy Bridge:

Where the Core i7-3770K is happy to sit at 3.7GHz under full load at 90C, the Core i7-4770K throttles back to 3.5GHz within moments of starting Prime95"

said that, Its still undeniable Haswell is still the fastest processor that Intel has ever produced. For the same price as an Ivy Bridge chip, you get around 10% more performance.

The overclocking proposition might not be quite as enticing, but in reality Haswell’s 10% clock-for-clock advantage over Ivy Bridge means that a Haswell-based system at 4.5GHz should still beat out IVB at 4.9GHz which is also enthralling for mobile computing as it assures overall low system power consumption.
I
Jan 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM
So does this TIM pose a huge problem for overclocking or is it just a minor issue relating to the last bit of performance that can be eeked out of these CPUs?
sam_738844
Jan 22, 2014 at 1:01 PM
So does this TIM pose a huge problem for overclocking or is it just a minor issue relating to the last bit of performance that can be eeked out of these CPUs?

Mate, its not like a "thin line" difference issue, there is a big fat line between OC'blity and otherwise. Simply at Clock to clock haswell performs better than ivy, ivy overclocks better and haswell sucks. Given this, u can see a whole line of unlocked and locked series of processors are there from Intel 4th Gen, let alone notebook CPUs, so obviously Intel is giving choice to OC'er do go ahead and do what they intend to, its just that they wont be as happy as with Ivy. So if oc'ing is your enthusiasm then you know what to choose, if not, there is no reason not to buy a Haswell.
rijinpk1
rijinpk1 #75
Jan 22, 2014 at 6:33 PM
isn't it die size of haswell a little bit larger than ivy?