iPad 2019 10.2 inch 32GB Vs. Samsung S5e tablet 64 GB

Hey all.

I am confused between buying iPad 2019 Model 10.2 Inch or Samsung S5e tablet 64 GB. Both are available for 27K. Which one should I consider .

My main purpose is that this tablet should last long and should be powerful to last at least next 4 years. This will be required for video calls and conferences.

what do you suggest
@SaiyanGoku
@whitestar_999
@Nerevarine
@bssunilreddy
@omega44-xt

Please help as I need to buy immediately.

my suggestion is the ipad. android tablets dont compare to ipads, even if the samsung has the better screen.

Nerevarine said:
my suggestion is the ipad. android tablets dont compare to ipads, even if the samsung has the better screen.

That's what is troubling me. One has better features, but other has better life and quality. But any idea how long will the 2019 model last?

*www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_pro_12_9_(2015)-7562.php

2015 ipad upgradable to latest version of ipados. Do the math. 32 GB vs 64 GB is a bummer though. How are you going to use it ? Do you have NAS/Unlimited wifi to stream stuff to it ?

Nerevarine said:
*www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_pro_12_9_(2015)-7562.php

2015 ipad upgradable to latest version of ipados. Do the math. 32 GB vs 64 GB is a bummer though. How are you going to use it ? Do you have NAS/Unlimited wifi to stream stuff to it ?

I do have unlimited wifi. I will barely stream on it. Mostly just video confrencing.

I would go for iPad. I have the ipad 2017 32gb. For streaming and video conference 32gb is good enough. OS updates are regular so far. Battery life is amazing especially standby.

RumbaMon19 said:
Hey all.

I am confused between buying iPad 2019 Model 10.2 Inch or Samsung S5e tablet 64 GB. Both are available for 27K. Which one should I consider .

My main purpose is that this tablet should last long and should be powerful to last at least next 4 years. This will be required for video calls and conferences.

what do you suggest
@SaiyanGoku
@whitestar_999
@Nerevarine
@bssunilreddy
@omega44-xt

Please help as I need to buy immediately.

I have no idea about tablets but I would not buy a 2 year old model.

SaiyanGoku said:
I have no idea about tablets but I would not buy a 2 year old model.

I can also consider iPad 8th gen. (2020)

Main reason for this poll is what will last longer-ipad or samsung tab.

Added I need it only for some time to solve my conferencing needs. After that it will not be used much. Maybe once in a while or on trips.

I would say go for old iPads(as apple has good support) but higher storage(64-128) I have 16gb 9.7inch iPad Air 16gb model Its great in every aspect very snappy,Retina display Awesome battery but low storage.I only use it for manga,comics and netflix streaming though.
So get any iPad 2017 and above but more storage.

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The iPad will get more updates than S5e, which is already on android 11 & not sure if it will get 12.

Storage, OLED & some conveniences of OS will favour S5e, but iPad OS has better apps & a lot of restrictions of iOS have been removed (like File manager). So you have to take the call. For performance, better pick iPad (2020).

omega44-xt said:
(like File manager).

i didnt knew there was a restriction on this. Actually I am not an iOS user, so it will be totally new experience for me.

W

Also keep in mind that for ipad/devices you will have to pay to get some apps/functionality compared to android where free alternatives are more easily available in playstore.

RumbaMon19 said:
i didnt knew there was a restriction on this. Actually I am not an iOS user, so it will be totally new experience for me.

ipados is a mix between ios and macos.

RumbaMon19 said:
i didnt knew there was a restriction on this. Actually I am not an iOS user, so it will be totally new experience for me.

They added file explorer in recent iPad OS update so no worries.

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whitestar_999 said:
Also keep in mind that for ipad/devices you will have to pay to get some apps/functionality compared to android where free alternatives are more easily available in playstore.

Yupp, I had experienced this on Mac so already expecting it. Hope calculator and camera are not paid

Nerevarine said:
ipados is a mix between ios and macos.

Ohh. I maybe use it with a keyboard and mouse... It will be easy for travel.

pkkumarcool said:
They added file explorer in recent iPad OS update so no worries.

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Surprising that people never went mad over it

RumbaMon19 said:
Yupp, I had experienced this on Mac so already expecting it. Hope calculator and camera are not paid

Ohh. I maybe use it with a keyboard and mouse... It will be easy for travel.

Surprising that people never went mad over it

Controversial statement, but iPhone fans are called iSheeps for a reason, they blindly buy Apple.

Yes, you can use mouse + KB with iPad, just check some iPadOS video from a year ago when it was released or some recent comparison between iPad OS vs iOS vs maybe android.

Also, I just saw geek bench results, in which Samsung scored 335sc and 1403mc, whereas ipad 8th gen scored 1111sc and 2436mc which more than double of what samsung gives. Will this be felt in performance also? Like how much does these scores tell us about real life performance?

RumbaMon19 said:
Also, I just saw geek bench results, in which Samsung scored 335sc and 1403mc, whereas ipad 8th gen scored 1111sc and 2436mc which more than double of what samsung gives. Will this be felt in performance also? Like how much does these scores tell us about real life performance?

You have to use the product to actually know the difference.These score matters but not much.You have to use the iPad and apple product to know the difference.A 2gb ram apple product = 8 gb android.
Since you havent used any apple products i will advice you to go to a apple showroom and try it out.Same for samsung too.

pkkumarcool said:
Since you havent used any apple products i will advice you to go to a apple showroom and try it out.Same for samsung too.

I would have gone that way, but covid situation aint good at my place, so i am trying to avoid going out. Samsung doesnt have any experience stores.

Does iPad support whatsapp ? I will be usi g my work sim on it. Although the sim will be plugged in another device. But as I get flooded with messages in whatsap, so I would prefer to seperate my home and work sim.

I think it should, you dont even need sim in the device for whatsapp to work.. I think you cannot recieve sms or send sms, you have to use the sim in separate device..

EDIT : I just checked, no official support for whatsapp on ipad.. too bad

RumbaMon19 said:
Does iPad support whatsapp ? I will be usi g my work sim on it. Although the sim will be plugged in another device. But as I get flooded with messages in whatsap, so I would prefer to seperate my home and work sim.

No it doesn't have but you can use web version in chrome.

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I dont like Apple products in general because of the restrictions but one product I have been using for years is Apple iPad. Other tablets just cant compete with it specially when it comes to longevity. 3 years later, it will still be relevant with latest iPadOS while Android tables with Android 11 will feel ancient when Android 13/14 will come out.

The only thing which you can do after inserting a SIM in an iPad is use mobile data on it. No calling, no SMS, just cellular data. Im not sure if it has changed recently or with introduction of iPadOS.

WhatsApp official app is not available on iPad but you can use other Apps (standalone apps) which use Whatsapp Web version in App form.

iPad vs Android tablet IMO depends strictly on what will you be using it for. For video conferencing, I think iPad should be far better than Android tablets but do keep in mind that you wont be able to use cellular calling and SMS in it.

I see. But its not a major problem if whatsapp doesn't works.

Get the 2020 iPad. A12 is quite a bit more powerful than A10 and the price difference isn't that much. I picked up a 32gb WiFi model for 26900 back in October. There are zero lags and freezes and standby battery life is amazing. The OS definitely is restrictive. I have yet to find a good alternative to Tachiyomi Manga reader and if you are into emulators then it's going to be a major annoyance as Apple keeps patching all the exploits that are used to make these things work. But a bit of digging around and you can do stuff. For example there is an app called iSH that is basically Alpine Linux in a VM running on your iPad. I mess around with it.
Also the 8th gen comes with 20w charger as opposed to the 10 or 15w one in the older iPads.

Go for iPad eyes closed.
I've been using Ipad Pro 10.5 (2017) and never faced any issues. Battery is amazing and the processing power of A series chipset. Games look eye candy. Watching movies on it is a real treat to eyes.

Even if you buy a year old model you won't be disappointed as Apple optimizes its Apps for old gen version very well. And the reason for that is the Apple eCosystem to its customers.

After these reviews, I am going for iPad 2020 32GB version. Also, do I require to use official apple dongles for hdmi and usb? Any third party recommendations?

Do research thoroughly about lightning port accessories. What works, what doesn't. Even the simplest of the tasks can be a real PITA if you're not prepared for it.

I have never used any lightning port accessory myself so I can't say but I have heard enough people bitching about things not working. Caution advised.

^Apple says it supports hdmi.thats why I am asking which third-party ones are supported. This is indeed part of research.

Make sure your main computer has a Type C port as the charging cable is USB C to lightning and not USB A to lightning. This might be obvious but my old PC didn't have a type C port. You only need to do ITunes sync once via the cable then you can enable WiFi Sync.

RumbaMon19 said:
After these reviews, I am going for iPad 2020 32GB version. Also, do I require to use official apple dongles for hdmi and usb? Any third party recommendations?

You can buy this one if you want

*www.amazon.in/Lighting-Synchroniza...=1618322451&sprefix=HDMI+to+li,aps,323&sr=8-6

Yes, the sim enabled iPad supports WhatsApp. I have the iPad 6 (2018). I use it daily for academic purposes and heavily dependent on it. It is a wonderfully designed piece of tech. Please get the iPad.

Generic Superhero said:
Yes, the sim enabled iPad supports WhatsApp. I have the iPad 6 (2018). I use it daily for academic purposes and heavily dependent on it. It is a wonderfully designed piece of tech. Please get the iPad.

NO, the newer iPad OS has got different market. In previous versions when iOS was used, it was supported. Basically one could download iPhone apps back then. Now the cellular model just used for internet purpose.

Generic Superhero said:
Yes, the sim enabled iPad supports WhatsApp. I have the iPad 6 (2018). I use it daily for academic purposes and heavily dependent on it. It is a wonderfully designed piece of tech. Please get the iPad.

Really?? I am using iPad from 2017 but AFAIK it never had whatsapp.

Now finally I have got everything in place. I want to buy it today or tomorrow itself, but I am confused where to buy.

I am not open for online buying.

I have Pluton apple store, Unicorn apple store Reliance digital near me. Now Reliance digital says they will restock in May and so does not have that model.

Unicorn and Pluton do have that model , but reviews of unicorn store says that they are not trustable, and reviews of Pluton says that they overprice and also force the customer to buy insurance etc. Alongwith.

Both of them are country wide chains but I am totally confused from where to buy as I don't want to risk anything.

You can buy directly from Apple online. Also if you know any student, use their Student ID to get Student discount. Student discount in offline stores too. I don't know the details. So do your research. Which city are you located ?

Stormbringer said:
You can buy directly from Apple online. Also if you know any student, use their Student ID to get Student discount. Student discount in offline stores too. I don't know the details. So do your research. Which city are you located ?

I would prefer offline, so online would be last thing to do.

I am in Chandigarh.

Edit :- I checked apple online, they will be shipping it by 18 May, that will be too long for me.

RumbaMon19 said:
Now finally I have got everything in place. I want to buy it today or tomorrow itself, but I am confused where to buy.

I am not open for online buying.

I have Pluton apple store, Unicorn apple store Reliance digital near me. Now Reliance digital says they will restock in May and so does not have that model.

Unicorn and Pluton do have that model , but reviews of unicorn store says that they are not trustable, and reviews of Pluton says that they overprice and also force the customer to buy insurance etc. Alongwith.

Both of them are country wide chains but I am totally confused from where to buy as I don't want to risk anything.

I think apple authorized store is your last bet I am sure they are quite pricy but they would provide you on spot.
which specific iPad version are you looking for?
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pkkumarcool said:
I think apple authorized store is your last bet I am sure they are quite pricy but they would provide you on spot.
which specific iPad version are you looking for?
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iPad 8th gen 32GB space grey.

I contacted both the stores, Unicorn store didn't respond, while Pluton is quoting me 29900(same as apple's website) they also have some offers running right now, so they are asking me to come and check.

RumbaMon19 said:
iPad 8th gen 32GB space grey.

I contacted both the stores, Unicorn store didn't respond, while Pluton is quoting me 29900(same as apple's website) they also have some offers running right now, so they are asking me to come and check.

Go to their store and try iPad for a while

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Finally got it today. So far working fine. Just gestures are new for me. Otherwise seems fine and works flawlessly.

I got the 8th gen one.

Thanks everyone for helping.

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Congrats! how much ?

Zangetsu said:
Congrats! how much ?

Thanks, 29900, along with a foldable case for 3.2k.

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RumbaMon19 said:
Finally got it today. So far working fine. Just gestures are new for me. Otherwise seems fine and works flawlessly.

I got the 8th gen one.

Thanks everyone for helping.

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Congrats! from where did you bought?
How are you liking it?
Also post some pics

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pkkumarcool said:
Congrats! from where did you bought?
How are you liking it?
Also post some pics

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bought it from pluton.
gestures are quick and smooth, which android lacked. Experience is great.

https://imgur.com/a/yg4pAMm

RumbaMon19 said:
bought it from pluton.
gestures are quick and smooth, which android lacked. Experience is great.

https://imgur.com/a/yg4pAMm

Nice i forgot to ask before what specific purpose are you planning to use ipad for?
It's great for Netflix or study purposes You could've also got ipad pencil if you want.

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pkkumarcool said:
Nice i forgot to ask before what purpose are you planning to use ipad for?

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Conferencing, streaming and maybe in the future for gaming if got time to...

Any idea how to disable iCloud backup. If i download any video from safari, it gets downloaded and uploaded to iCloud. I don’t want downloads to be uploaded. But when I turn off of iCloud, downloads stop showing in files, as they get uploaded instead.

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Its simple. Go to settings iCloud > turn off

Zangetsu said:
Its simple. Go to settings iCloud > turn off

Figured it out. I had to first save downloads on my usb, then disable icloud and then put files on ipad.

Disabling it directly also removes the download folder.

Also one more thing, Does the supplied USB-C cable supports data transfer? Because When i connected it to my PC, the ipad is charging but not getting recognised.

RumbaMon19 said:
Also one more thing, Does the supplied USB-C cable supports data transfer? Because When i connected it to my PC, the ipad is charging but not getting recognised.

Yes, that is actually lightning cable of apple devices.

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)

And it supports data transfer. You will have to select the "trust this device" popup in ipad to make it to work.
You won't be able to view each & every folder in PC like Android. As apple is more restrictive in file system access.

Zangetsu said:
Yes, that is actually lightning cable of apple devices.

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)

And it supports data transfer. You will have to select the "trust this device" popup in ipad to make it to work.
You won't be able to view each & every folder in PC like Android. As apple is more restrictive in file system access.

Figured it out. This is a problem with asus vivobooks, the usb c port does not work with apple lightning to USB c adapter. I had to buy a usb-c to usb a adapter and connect it through the standard port.

Here I am facing a problem, I want to buy an app from the appstore, but when I am adding a payment method, it is declining my card, and not giving any reasons about it. I have a debit card, from MasterCard.

I checked online and everything, there is no problem with the card as I use it regularly. It just comes up in red text "debit card declined, try updating your payment method" I have not added any other method also.

As per latest RBI Norms, you need to enable international transaction on your app and set a limit.

Check there, happened to me many times.

Nerevarine said:
As per latest RBI Norms, you need to enable international transaction on your app and set a limit.

Check there, happened to me many times.

I see. I will enable it and then try again. Is this new norm applicable after Feb this year? I actually bought some software online back in Jan , from Adobe and didn't have this problem. Maybe they are processing transactions in india.

Anyways I will enable it and then try again

You need to have international debit card I also have MasterCard sbi debit card It works flawlessly. There are two types of debit cards international and domestic debit cards.I opted for international one So check with your bank.

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RumbaMon19 said:
I see. I will enable it and then try again. Is this new norm applicable after Feb this year? I actually bought some software online back in Jan , from Adobe and didn't have this problem. Maybe they are processing transactions in india.

Anyways I will enable it and then try again

If its SBI, most likely it won't work. For private bank's card, enabling international transaction from netbanking will do the job.

Thanks @Nerevarine @pkkumarcool and @omega44-xt . I followed the instructions on bank website itself, and enabled international transaction, it worked that way.
thanks everyone for there support.

W

omega44-xt said:
If its SBI, most likely it won't work. For private bank's card, enabling international transaction from netbanking will do the job.

Those were old times, nowadays most regular sbi debit cards can be enabled for international transactions though safest bet is visa or mastercard global card but heard that even classic variants can be enabled in this way.

whitestar_999 said:
Those were old times, nowadays most regular sbi debit cards can be enabled for international transactions though safest bet is visa or mastercard global card but heard that even classic variants can be enabled in this way.

I generally have some or the other issue with SBI, so I rely on private banks for a more hassle-free exp.

W

omega44-xt said:
I generally have some or the other issue with SBI, so I rely on private banks for a more hassle-free exp.

That is of course a better option, sbi debit card is only to be used as last resort for international transactions.