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Ipad mini or Nexus 7

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manumanohar11 Original post #1
Jun 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Hi! I'm Manohar. I'm in a confused state whether to buy an ipad mini or a nexus 7. I'm quite a bit gamer and an app lover. My budget is Rs25000/-. Please Help me which one to buy.
Krow
Krow #2
Jun 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Get iPad Mini 3G. Apple is the undisputed leader in this field. Android has more free games, but iOS apps are still much better in terms of design and UI.
Shah
Shah #3
Jun 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM
+1 to iPad Mini.
powerhoney
Jun 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM
+1 for the Mini...
Btw, guys, suggest a case for my iPad mini... :)
omega44-xt
Jun 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM
I recommend Nexus 7 over iPad Mini as:
- Android has more free apps....most people don't want to spend money on apps & buying an app is not as easy as e-Shopping. My SBI ATM failed in Play Store.
- iTunes.....crap....makes file transfer to Apple devices complex
- No bluetooth file transfer (Used by many n very handy )
- Better UI in Android.....iOS UI is old n boring n not so user friendly as Android 4.2.2(Used a friend's iPhone 3GS with iOS 6)
quagmire
Jun 8, 2013 at 7:59 PM
I recommend Nexus 7 over iPad Mini as:
- Android has more free apps....most people don't want to spend money on apps & buying an app is not as easy as e-Shopping. My SBI ATM failed in Play Store.
- iTunes.....crap....makes file transfer to Apple devices complex
- No bluetooth file transfer (Used by many n very handy )
- Better UI in Android.....iOS UI is old n boring n not so user friendly as Android 4.2.2(Used a friend's iPhone 3GS with iOS 6)

+1.

iPad mini has pathetic screen resolution and a dated processor.. Also lacks GPS..

OP, you can consider Galaxy Tab 3 8.0..
I'm not exactly sure about the pricing and processor, but the rest appear to be good..

Else go for N7.. IMO the best 7" tablet ever..
$hadow
$hadow #7
Jun 8, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Wait for next gen nexus 7 or ipad mini with retina display both of them are round the corner.
Anorion
Anorion #8
Jun 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM
get ipad for gaming and apps
Anorion
Anorion #10
Jun 9, 2013 at 1:08 AM
uh retina.... batt drain and heavier, this is the most perfect ipad mini there will ever be
Krow
Krow #11
Jun 9, 2013 at 1:49 AM
Wait for next gen nexus 7 or ipad mini with retina display both of them are round the corner.

Good advice. Why not wait for five years? We'll have a supertab that cooks, cleans and gives you a foot massage while you game.
No offence, but if buying today, get the best in your budget. This round the corner is actually at least three-four months away (mini).

For those complaining about OS design, iOS 7 is coming tomorrow. Wait before you jump the gun.
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the.one #12
Jun 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Good advice. Why not wait for five years? We'll have a supertab that cooks, cleans and gives you a foot massage while you game.
No offence, but if buying today, get the best in your budget. This round the corner is actually at least three-four months away (mini).

For those complaining about OS design, iOS 7 is coming tomorrow. Wait before you jump the gun.

:lol:

Hes damn right. If u really wanna buy something, then u'll get it now, rather than dilly-dallying around. There will never be the most VFM or the most technologically advanced thing, something better will keep coming. IMO don't look into the future beyond a couple of weeks(unless its some truly innovative stuff).

Rite now, I can think of the Galaxy Note 8.0 or the Ipad mini(that I'm using myself).
Who knows, the retina ipad mini, when it launches may be out of ur budgets.
BombayBoy
BombayBoy #13
Jun 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM
The rumored iPad™ mini with Retina display isn't going to be cheap. The iPad mini has a good display and iOS has better apps than Android. If you don't need to be always online, the Wi-Fi only model is the best option.
omega44-xt
Jun 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM
Just see the poll results.....N7 is better than iPad Mini

I recommend Nexus 7 over iPad Mini as:
- Android has more free apps....most people don't want to spend money on apps & buying an app is not as easy as e-Shopping. My SBI ATM failed in Play Store.
- iTunes.....crap....makes file transfer to Apple devices complex
- No bluetooth file transfer (Used by many n very handy )
- Better UI in Android.....iOS UI is old n boring n not so user friendly as Android 4.2.2(Used a friend's iPhone 3GS with iOS 6)
Anorion
Anorion #15
Jun 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM
^ apps and games are a priority for op

Android has more free apps is a lie, ios has more free apps

For proof check out top 25 Paid games in android store, more than ten of em have dropped to 0 on ios and never to that point on droids

Just did that, Angry birds space, asphalt 6, asphalt 7, cut the rope experiments, fruit ninja, granny smith, riptide gp, ski safari, temple run brave, pvz all have dropped to 0 on ios
So that's 9/25 still not bad. Just because device is cheaper does not mean ecosystem is also cheaper
Krow
Krow #16
Jun 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Android is better for pirates. Legit users should stick to iOS. The experience is much better on tablets. Apple is the undisputed leader in the tablet segment as it has great hardware and more tablet-optimised apps.
quagmire
quagmire #17
Jun 9, 2013 at 11:27 PM
^ apps and games are a priority for op

Android has more free apps is a lie, ios has more free apps

For proof check out top 25 Paid games in android store, more than ten of em have dropped to 0 on ios and never to that point on droids

Just did that, Angry birds space, asphalt 6, asphalt 7, cut the rope experiments, fruit ninja, granny smith, riptide gp, ski safari, temple run brave, pvz all have dropped to 0 on ios
So that's 9/25 still not bad. Just because device is cheaper does not mean ecosystem is also cheaper

Games aside what about productivity apps? Not sure about iOS but Android does have a lot of free productivity and utility apps.

Android is better for pirates. Legit users should stick to iOS. The experience is much better on tablets. Apple is the undisputed leader in the tablet segment as it has great hardware and more tablet-optimised apps.

But still no true multitasking.. You can't even use your note taking app side by side your browser/office application on a 9.7" tablet, when the hardware is completely capable of doing it.. That was just an example iOS misses out on a lot of other stuff..
SaiyanGoku
Jun 10, 2013 at 1:42 AM
I recommend Nexus 7 over iPad Mini as:
- Android has more free apps....most people don't want to spend money on apps & buying an app is not as easy as e-Shopping. My SBI ATM failed in Play Store.
- iTunes.....crap....makes file transfer to Apple devices complex
- No bluetooth file transfer (Used by many n very handy )
- Better UI in Android.....iOS UI is old n boring n not so user friendly as Android 4.2.2(Used a friend's iPhone 3GS with iOS 6)

Agreed with the points about Itunes and bluetooth.

Apple really needs to include Bluetooth file transfer, file explorer and drag & drop so that a person may share his own clicked photos to others easliy.
Anorion
Anorion #19
Jun 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM
What's this logic of more free apps are better? aren't moar paid apps better? At least keep option of it

In any case, ios has more free apps also
thetechfreak
Jun 10, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Few of the posts in this thread are misleading and biased.

I'd recommend you to go for iPad Mini. Anorion & Krow have already mentioned why its better.
I recommend Nexus 7 over iPad Mini as:
1.Android has more free apps....most people don't want to spend money on apps & buying an app is not as easy as e-Shopping. My SBI ATM failed in Play Store.
2.iTunes.....crap....makes file transfer to Apple devices complex
- No bluetooth file transfer (Used by many n very handy )
3. Better UI in Android.....iOS UI is old n boring n not so user friendly as Android 4.2.2(Used a friend's iPhone 3GS with iOS 6)
Let me clarify some things, point wise as posted:

1. Google Play asks for credit cards and AFAIK the standard SBI ATM cards are Maestro cards which are not even supported by Google.

2. Newer versions of iTunes actually work well. No lag and hang issues as older versions. Really helps in keeping tab on which song I have and which I don't.

3. Grossly disagree. IMO iOS UI>>>Android JB UI. Just because Apple support their old customers it doesn't mean UI becomes boring.

Not to mention each iOS device gets updated lot longer than any Android device. Google devices(even Nexus devices) are supported for 18 months whereas iOS device have support for 36 months(3 years). The iPad Mini will remain relevant with software updates in the long run.
Krow
Krow #21
Jun 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Games aside what about productivity apps? Not sure about iOS but Android does have a lot of free productivity and utility apps.



But still no true multitasking.. You can't even use your note taking app side by side your browser/office application on a 9.7" tablet, when the hardware is completely capable of doing it.. That was just an example iOS misses out on a lot of other stuff..

This whole concept of using free apps is flawed. The apps are not free. You do realise that they are free with advertisements, right? Also, these ads keep popping up all the time, which wastes your time, data and battery. If you really want an app, best to pay for it.

I don't see iPad users complaining about multi-tasking features. It may be useful for some, but by and large the UI is such that it has been rendered irrelevant. For the record, even Android doesn't have "true multi-tasking". Multi-Window is there in Samsung TouchWiz (one of the worst UIs out there) and Windows 8 supports it too. Not sure why people compare desktop usage to mobile/tablet usage. As for your example, if you need a note-taking app while using your office app, there is something wrong with the office app. MS Office has One Note built-in and most office clients come with an equivalent app. These days, Evernote has become the de facto productivity app for many and not everyone feels the need to use a proper office app anyway. It works in your browser too and you can clip stuff to Evernote without leaving the browser window.

Those bashing iTunes should try using it. iTunes 11 is pretty simple and the store integration is lag-free. It works well on my two-year-old HP dm1z netbook. Why the hell are people still complaining about file transfer? It's simple on iTunes and most people use Dropbox/Gmail for sending files anyway. I don't even remember the last time I plugged in my Android phone to the laptop. It's redundant and at-most a one-time use action.

Forum members are overly biased towards Android. The OS is far from mature in the tablet segment.

Apple really needs to include Bluetooth file transfer, file explorer and drag & drop so that a person may share his own clicked photos to others easliy.

You still use Bluetooth to share files? Unless you have a really old phone, I don't see why it is needed. I only use Bluetooth for pairing with speakers on my two-year-old Android phone. Why not try sharing via Dropbox or iCloud or Facebook or Flickr?
Anorion
Anorion #22
Jun 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM
^or whatsapp or twitter

Actually agree to the itunes point, its pretty bad, but since 5.x these devices can be used untethered.

Multi-tasking, you can constantly task without having to close or manage apps and the device slowing down
T
Jun 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM
You should definitely opt for the iPad mini. Although the UI is not as appealing as a droid you can always jail break and get a couple of tweaks from cydia, install winter board and make your own custom theme. Cydia will let you modify each part of the UI separately not to mention a lot tweaks and apps on cydia are also free and for general purpose. There is a Bluetooth app limited to pre A5 devices, hopefully there will be an update.This undoubtedly gives an edge over the droid system app market. I think untethered JB for a new iOS version not possible right now; but eventually there is always a release. The app store on the other hand has a lot of free apps too which are user designed and specific. Then there is podcasts, *news stand, *iBooks and genius. From gaming perspective it's the best that is there. Some graphic intense games infinity blade II, modern warfare, dead space and FIFA 13 will get you hooked. The iOS is much stable, sturdy, less prone to malware in case for office use and versatile if you JB it. I have been dual booting my iPhone with android 2.2.1 froyo and seems to be working fine. The hardware and software are balanced in an apple system, the only downside being expensive for the hardware it's offering as compared to an android. Hope this helps you.
PS: In case you go for the iPad mini opt for the 4g model because people regret on later.
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vyral_143 #24
Jun 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM
One must be clear about his/her usage and needs when buying anything. In the world there always going to be X device which is not having feature of Y device. But you yourself are best judge if you need that feature. If one device can do things which you want then there is no other better device around then that.
Putting it in more simple. Answer few questions to your heart/mind.
Is xyz app which I need is running flawlessly on this device ?
abc app does not run on this device but do I need it ?

For me getting an iPad Mini makes more sense. Better optimized apps in iOS - Temple Run 2 still runs good in my iPad 1 with just 256MB RAM. Longer support - iPhone 3GS - launched with iOS 3 and gets iOS 6.

P.S. - no fanboy of either camp but bit annoyed with Android OS update thinggy.
SaiyanGoku
Jun 11, 2013 at 2:25 AM
You still use Bluetooth to share files? Unless you have a really old phone, I don't see why it is needed. I only use Bluetooth for pairing with speakers on my two-year-old Android phone. Why not try sharing via Dropbox or iCloud or Facebook or Flickr?

1 & 2. Yes, read my sig. :deadbored:
3. So, here's the thing. you click a photo (or say have any file) and then your friend who is standing besides you wants it (the friend has no internet access at that time). What do you do? Upload it with high data rates or share it over bluetooth free of cost?

file sharing/transfer easy hona chahiye,
'i' (as in the crapple ipad) to $hit me bhi hota hai :p
Krow
Krow #26
Jun 11, 2013 at 4:08 AM
1 & 2. Yes, read my sig. :deadbored:
3. So, here's the thing. you click a photo (or say have any file) and then your friend who is standing besides you wants it (the friend has no internet access at that time). What do you do? Upload it with high data rates or share it over bluetooth free of cost?

I'm almost always on Tapatalk so can't read your signature. Regarding the rest... I suppose you should ask your friends to stop living in the stone age. Data rates are really low now for 2G. Your arguments would have sounded relevant in 2007 but the world has changed ever since. Photos are backed up instantly and automatically on Dropbox/G+/FB and anyone can easily view. Good luck transferring files on your high-speed Bluetooth connection. :p
Anorion
Anorion #27
Jun 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Make the friend click a photo while showing the photo on your screen
If its so imp, there are apps just for that

Dont ignore production run periods, product life cycles, as well as update life cycle.
omega44-xt
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM
So, here's the thing. you click a photo (or say have any file) and then your friend who is standing besides you wants it (the friend has no internet access at that time). What do you do? Upload it with high data rates or share it over bluetooth free of cost?

+1 to that......2G rates have increased 6 months ago(for AirTel n Vodaphones users).
Moreover, if u have taken some video, 10MB+ , bluetooth is a sensible free option. NFC is not popular yet. So, having a BT3.0+ is a good option. No BT file transfer was one of the main reasons for Nokia's downfall with WP7.5(Even Symbian OS had that)
dude1
dude1 #29
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Well N7 stands the undisputed winner here...everything about the hardware is better. the only benefit of ipad mini is ios. for now at least. N7 will continue to get updates from google which are very fast(the rate at which android is improving it will catch up with ios soon), believe me i own one. Also if you love games hardware should be your first pref And the THD games look absolutely gorgeous on N7..(plus i dont know for sure but i've heard after release of nvidia project shield, that has tegra 4 soc, Nvidia is aiming to create a large exclusive collection of games for tegra devices...if so, that would be a boon for N7 users)

+1 to that......2G rates have increased 6 months ago(for AirTel n Vodaphones users).
Moreover, if u have taken some video, 10MB+ , bluetooth is a sensible free option. NFC is not popular yet. So, having a BT3.0+ is a good option. No BT file transfer was one of the main reasons for Nokia's downfall with WP7.5(Even Symbian OS had that)

+1 .... also it is not like N7 has no 3g accesss... It has that PLUS it has high speed bluetooth....so if u want to use dropbox/fb/whatsapp use 3g/2g and for close connection use BT ..simple :) (i really think sending a close by person files over internet is inefficient upload and download..pfff)
Anorion
Anorion #30
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Op wants gamez and apps not bt file transfer

Op wants gamez and apps not bt file transfer
omega44-xt
Jun 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM
I think OP left the forum :wink:
SaiyanGoku
Jun 12, 2013 at 2:30 AM
Op wants gamez and apps not bt file transfer

Op wants gamez and apps not bt file transfer

So, you're assuming that OP won't ever need BT or drag-and-drop for file transfer? :deadbored:
Krow
Krow #33
Jun 12, 2013 at 2:42 AM
I haven't used Bluetooth to send files more than thrice in two years. Drag and drop is easier, yes, but iTunes is not that complicated. These days you can buy all sorts of content on iTunes, so easier to manage music and movies too. I have a friend who has never connected iPhone to laptop for iTunes.

You don't understand that usage patterns are changing drastically. Even if we consider those two "shortcomings" you're stuck at, neither is a deal-breaker at all.