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nepcker
nepcker Original post #1
May 16, 2007 at 9:26 PM
AT&T boss gets excited about the iPhone

The iPhone will be the largest launch in the history of consumer electronics, according to AT&T's CEO Stan Sigman.

Sigman was speaking at the commencement ceremony at his former college, West Texas A&M University.

He discussed the 37 years since he graduated from the University, saying: "I never dreamed I'd be speaking to you now. I also never dreamed I would be part of the largest commercial product launch in the history of electronics."

He then revealed that the first iPhone had already reached Texas – Sigman had handed one across to the Dr O'Brien, president of the university, which he held aloft to cheers and applause.

You can see it all on video just here.


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chesss
chesss #2
May 17, 2007 at 3:25 PM
ehh, largest?? like the biggest phone? or the widest market to which it is released
gxsaurav
May 17, 2007 at 3:41 PM
i guess iphone gonna start a pda, touch phone etc TREND ..........

Aren't they already available from.....1998
nepcker
nepcker #4
May 17, 2007 at 4:13 PM
Apple's Newton PDA was available from 1993.
gxsaurav
May 17, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Newton, they don't even make it anymore. That thing sucked. It is regarded as one of the biggest failures in computing industry. $700 for pathetic handwriting recognition :D
amitava82
May 17, 2007 at 10:52 PM
^^ dude it was 1993, did you notice that? I guess u already had a P4 PC and Vista then...
gxsaurav
May 17, 2007 at 11:10 PM
I know it was in 1993, thats why I said. Newton sucked big time...while nepcker is again trying to gain some attention saying "Apple came with PDA first"
eggman
eggman #8
May 17, 2007 at 11:20 PM
gx_saurav said:
nepcker is again trying to gain some attention saying "Apple came with PDA first"

:))

And coming back to the topic, iPhone is also the most over-hyped product launch in history
aryayush
May 18, 2007 at 4:50 AM
gx_saurav said:
I know it was in 1993, thats why I said. Newton sucked big time...while nepcker is again trying to gain some attention saying "Apple came with PDA first"
Oh, but Apple did. I don't know why you have to butt yourself into every thread with your malformed opinions, but Apple was the company to invent the first PDA. And it did not suck either. A testament to the fact is that there are hundreds of fifteen year old Newtons still working today and people are using them. These people are trying to somehow port the Newton operating system to the more sophisticated hardware of Palm devices today.

Yes, it had poor handwriting recognition. Guess what, Windows 1.0 had poor everything. Photoshop's first version came on a floppy. People used punched cards to store data before floppies. Things have to start somewhere and the Newton was a marvelous device for a first generation product. Apple wasn't into the wrong market or had a non-worthy product, they were just ahead of their time. Even the concept of computers was only just beginning to gain acceptance at that time and Apple launched an expensive device that sounded too good to be true. Plus, it had poor handwriting recognition. Palm capitalised on Apple's failure and came to the market much later with a cheaper product that did not have handwriting recognition at all. So, the device had no flaws, but it was missing the one feature that was the reason for flaws in the Newton. Later, of course, they improved upon handwriting recognition as technology evolved and came out with better PDAs and captured the market due to lack of competition and good products.

Learn your history lessons before you start commenting on public forums. Or better still, don't comment at all.

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News Flash: Apple iPhone receives FCC approval

By AppleInsider Staff
Published: 01:45 PM EST

Apple Inc. on Thursday received the official go-ahead on its first ever mobile handset, as regulators for the Federal Communications Commission gave the iPod maker the green light to commence sales of the device in the United States.


According to FCC documents obtained by AppleInsider, the "GSM Cellular Telephone with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi" carries model number A1203 and FCC ID: BCGA1203.

In an SAR Test Report conducted on February 6th, 2007, FCC Test Lab Manager Lothar Schmidt wrote the following:

"The Apple Inc. A1203 GSM Cellular Telephone with Bluetooth and Wifi, FCC ID: BCGA1203, is in compliance with the limits for general population uncontrolled exposure specified in FCC 2.1093. The device was tested according to the measurement standards and procedures specified in FCC OET Bulletin 65, Supplement C (Edition 01-01) and IEEE p1528/D1.2, April 21, 2003."

Read more...


Not that there was any doubt about it. They basically clear everything that is shoved under their nose, but anyway, it's all ready to be shipped now. :D
nepcker
nepcker #10
May 18, 2007 at 2:43 PM
while nepcker is again trying to gain some attention saying "Apple came with PDA first"
You mean to say that I constantly keep saying that Apple was the first to come up with a PDA. Well, Apple has come up with the first PDA.

Anyway, can you show me any other of my posts mentioning about Newton being the first PDA?
nagarjun_424
May 19, 2007 at 8:21 PM
biggest ever! wow! hope its in india soon!
aryayush
aryayush #12
May 19, 2007 at 8:25 PM
January, 2008. Coming to an Apple (Premium) Reseller near you. :)
nepcker
nepcker #13
May 20, 2007 at 8:08 AM
What will the iPhone cost here? I hope it will be an unlocked one.
aryayush
aryayush #14
May 20, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Though there is no GSM locked handset in India, I think the iPhone will be the first one. There is no other way they can provide visual voicemail to iPhone customers. If they give it unlocked, Indian iPhone users will be deprived of the awesome feature.
goobimama
goobimama #15
May 20, 2007 at 4:55 PM
If it's anything above 35k screw it, I'm getting myself an HDTV....
infra_red_dude
May 20, 2007 at 6:57 PM
but... to which network will it be locked? vodafone?? or bharti airtel?? thats an interesting question!!
aryayush
aryayush #17
May 20, 2007 at 8:32 PM
If the choice in the USA is any indication, then they should choose Reliance because it has the largest number of subscribers among the private carriers. But I don't think they will choose Reliance because Reliance's network does not even support EDGE yet. Hope they go with Airtel (if it is a locked phone).

goobimama said:
If it's anything above 35k screw it, I'm getting myself an HDTV....
You're willing to spend thirty five thousand on it! :eek:
infra_red_dude
May 20, 2007 at 8:49 PM
reliance??? only its cdma network has a large user base. its gsm network is next to zero, very marginal. afaik, iphone is gsm only (or do they haf any plans for a cdma model?).
aryayush
aryayush #19
May 20, 2007 at 8:54 PM
No, they don't. Well, Reliance is pretty famous in Bengal so I thought it has a very large market share. Which is the company with the largest share?
gxsaurav
gxsaurav #20
May 20, 2007 at 9:06 PM
BSNL

& iPhone as well as all mobile phone carriers in US of A are CDMA based
aryayush
aryayush #21
May 20, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! :lol:

Seriously, you'll regret skipping classes all your life.


I doubt CDMA is even there in the USA. iPhone is a GSM handset. Verizon, Vodafone, Cingular, Sprint, Orange, Nextel are all GSM carriers. You know nothing about anything. Why do you have to keep advertising that?

:lol: Dude, don't ever say that again to someone. Seriously.
amitava82
amitava82 #22
May 20, 2007 at 10:28 PM
aryayush said:
No, they don't. Well, Reliance is pretty famous in Bengal so I thought it has a very large market share. Which is the company with the largest share?
I think Reliance Smart is available only in West Bengal and Orissa. Airtel has largest market share and largest subscriber base in Karnataka. R u sure iPhone will be a locked one? I have doubt. anyway I'm ready to pay Rs.25K MAX for 8GB version...
aryayush
aryayush #23
May 20, 2007 at 11:06 PM
No chance. 25K for the four gigabyte model might happen though.
infra_red_dude
May 21, 2007 at 12:29 PM
gx_saurav said:
& iPhone as well as all mobile phone carriers in US of A are CDMA based
no they are not. tho a major part of the US is cdma based, but gsm has its share too. and to my knowledge as of now there is NO cdma based iphone. cingular, tmobile haf gsm networks whlie verizon is a major cdma player.

had read that talks between apple and verizon (which has cdma network) broke and apple finalised the deal wid cingular which happends to be based on gsm. since the iphone will be locked, it'll be available as gsm only. i believe these talks took place before the design of the iphone was complete. otherwise switching the circuitary from cdma to gsm is not easy after the device has completed the design phase. i dunno if a cdma/wcdma model is in the making.

i suspect either hutch-vodafone or airtel to bring iphone in india. tho airtel has the largest and the best network, vodaphone is an international company. reliance wants every product of theirs to be advertised as cheap and affordable and 25k+ is definitely neither cheap nor affordable!!!

aryayush said:
I doubt CDMA is even there in the USA.
US, japan etc. haf a cdma majority while gsm is minority there!! but its the other way round all over rest of the world. gsm is the most widely used standard.

aryayush said:
iPhone is a GSM handset.
correct!!!

aryayush said:
Verizon, Vodafone, Cingular, Sprint, Orange, Nextel are all GSM carriers.
verizon, sprint, nextel are all major cdma carriers in the US while they haf a very very small or nil gsm backbone.

guess u too miss a lot of classes ;) looks like saurav has company in his class :D
gxsaurav
gxsaurav #25
May 21, 2007 at 12:49 PM
infra_red_dude said:
guess u too miss a lot of classes ;) looks like saurav has company in his class :D

He is sooooooooooooooooo junior to me :D
aryayush
aryayush #26
May 21, 2007 at 1:12 PM
@infra_red_dude,
Well, I have absolutely no qualms in accepting it when I am wrong about something. My sister has recently been married and has gone to USA and she told me that there are no CDMA carriers there. Then again, they live in a small town so maybe they don't have it there. It is also quite possible that my sister wasn't that well informed. They are shifting to San Francisco/California now - lucky chaps!

Anyway, thanks for the new info. It did sound strange even to me that USA wouldn't have something that we have in India. The iPhone and AT&T/Cingular are GSM based, that's for sure.

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infra_red_dude
May 21, 2007 at 1:24 PM
aryayush said:
@infra_red_dude,
Well, I have absolutely no qualms in accepting it when I am wrong about something.
and thats the correct attitude! :) forums like these are all abt teaching and learning. i learn something new from u, u learn something new from me. i accept my mistake, u accept urs. follow this and it will not lead to banning of anyone even tho u can haf really interesting discussions and debates! :)
aryayush
aryayush #28
May 21, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Exactly. Wish more people had such an attitude. (Now I'm boasting! :p )

BTW, if you know about this, can you tell me how exactly do they lock cellphones to certain carriers even when the connection is GSM based? Why can't we simply change the SIM card like we can in India?

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goobimama
goobimama #29
May 21, 2007 at 8:23 PM
^^ I got warned some time back for cheating my way in adding a banner-siggy...
aryayush
aryayush #30
May 22, 2007 at 12:20 AM
Uh oh. OK. This stops now. I spent time on that thing though. :(


One last time wouldn't hurt though... :p

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krazyfrog #31
May 22, 2007 at 6:00 AM
If it costs 25k and comes with airtel, then i'd definitely try to convince my parents to buy it.
infra_red_dude
May 22, 2007 at 7:58 PM
aryayush said:
BTW, if you know about this, can you tell me how exactly do they lock cellphones to certain carriers even when the connection is GSM based? Why can't we simply change the SIM card like we can in India?

afaik, the service provider embedds a lock code into one of the rom chips of the phone. the unlock code of which is available wid either the service provider's sim card or in some of the bits of the transmitted signal from the SP.

when u switch on the phone, before it searches for the network it tries to find the unlock code on the sim card. if it is of the same provider then it unlocks the phone and makes it usable by letting it search for its SP's signal. if the signal contains the unlock code then as soon as it is turned on it beams back the service provider info obtained from the sim card. if it gets a matching signal wid the unlock code it becomes usable (in case of roaming ,the signals and unlock code is routed thru the partner service provider's network).

if however the sim is of a diff service provider then it won't haf that specific unlock code and ur phone becomes unusable. previously the locking info was stored in the firmware. this protection was cracked and people cud easily unlock it by entering a code or flashing. but now i believe its on a rom chip which can be unlocked only wid special service cable and software by flashing the rom contents to that of an unlocked phone.

i suspect the method of carrying unlock code in signal is not employed. its mostly rom programming, afaik. dunno if this has been cracked too and there is a newer technology being used.
aryayush
aryayush #33
May 22, 2007 at 9:53 PM
Cool man, you really know your stuff. That was very informative. Thanks! :)
infra_red_dude
May 23, 2007 at 11:15 AM
i'm not sure which method of locking is used as on today coz everything is man made and hence vulnerable. this may haf been cracked too. but it gives an insight of how gsm phones can be locked. the basic principle can be easily understood! :)