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esumitkumar
esumitkumar Original post #1
Dec 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM
IS INDIA A POOR COUNTRY?
by M R Venkatesh

*webmail.fiserv.co.in/Exchange/Gupta.Sumit/Inbox/loche...EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg?Security=3

Revelation of Swiss bank accounts

This is so shocking.......If black money deposits was an Olympics event.... India would have won a gold medal hands down. The second best Russia has 4 times lesser deposit. U.S. is not even there in the counting in top five! India has more money in Swiss banks than all the other countries combined!

Recently, due to international pressure, the Swiss government agreed to disclose the names of the account holders only if the respective governments formally asked for it. Indian government is not asking for the details.......no marks for guessing why?

We need to start a movement to pressurise the government to do so! This is perhaps the only way, and a golden opportunity, to expose the high and mighty and weed out corruption!

Please read on......and forward to all the honest Indians to.....like somebody is forwarding to you.......and build a ground-swell of support for action!

Is India poor, who says? Ask the Swiss banks. With personal account deposit bank of $1,500 billion in foreign reserve which have been misappropriated, an amount 13 times larger than the country's foreign debt, one needs to rethink if India is a poor country?

DISHONEST INDUSTRIALISTS, scandalous politicians and corrupt IAS, IRS, IPS officers have deposited in foreign banks in their illegal personal accounts a sum of about $1500 billion, which have been misappropriated by them. This amount is about 13 times larger than the country's foreign debt. With this amount 45 crore poor people can get Rs 1,00,000 each. This huge amount has been appropriated from the people of India by exploiting and betraying them. Once this huge amount of black money and property comes back to India , the entire foreign debt can be repaid in 24 hours. After paying the entire foreign debt, we will have surplus amount, almost 12 times larger than the foreign debt. If this surplus amount is invested in earning interest, the amount of interest will be more than the annual budget of the Central government. So even if all the taxes are abolished, then also the Central government will be able to maintain the country very comfortably.

Some 80,000 people travel to Switzerland every year, of whom 25,000 travel very frequently. 'Obviously, these people won't be tourists. They must be travelling there for some other reason,' believes an official involved in tracking illegal money. And, clearly, he isn't referring to the commerce ministry bureaucrats who've been flitting in and out of Geneva ever since the World Trade Organisation (WTO) negotiations went into a tailspin!

Just read the following details and note how these dishonest industrialists, scandalous politicians, corrupt officers, cricketers, film actors, illegal sex trade and protected wildlife operators, to name just a few, sucked this country's wealth and prosperity. This may be the picture of deposits in Swiss banks only. What about other international banks?

Black money in Swiss banks -- Swiss Banking Association report, 2006 details bank deposits in the territory of Switzerland by nationals of following countries:

TOP FIVE



INDIA
$1,456 BILLION
RUSSIA
$470 BILLION
U.K.
$390 BILLION
UKRAINE
$100 BILLION
CHINA
$96 BILLION

Now do the math's - India with $1,456 billion or $1.4 trillion has more money in Swiss banks than rest of the world combined. Public loot since 1947:

Can we bring back our money? It is one of the biggest loots witnessed by mankind -- the loot of the Aam Aadmi (common man) since 1947, by his brethren occupying public office. It has been orchestrated by politicians, bureaucrats and some businessmen.

The list is almost all-encompassing. No wonder, everyone in India loots with impunity and without any fear. What is even more depressing in that this ill-gotten wealth of ours has been stashed away abroad into secret bank accounts located in some of the world's best known tax havens. And to that extent the Indian economy has been stripped of its wealth. Ordinary Indians may not be exactly aware of how such secret accounts operate and what are the rules and regulations that go on to govern such tax havens. However, one may well be aware of 'Swiss bank accounts,' the shorthand for murky dealings, secrecy and of course pilferage from developing countries into rich developed ones.

In fact, some finance experts and economists believe tax havens to be a conspiracy of the western world against the poor countries. By allowing the proliferation of tax havens in the twentieth century, the western world explicitly encourages the movement of scarce capital from the developing countries to the rich. In March 2005, the Tax Justice Network (TJN) published a research finding demonstrating that $11.5 trillion of personal wealth was held offshore by rich individuals across the globe.

The findings estimated that a large proportion of this wealth was managed from some 70 tax havens. Further, augmenting these studies of TJN, Raymond Baker -- in his widely celebrated book titled 'Capitalism's Achilles Heel: Dirty Money and How to Renew the Free Market System' -- estimates that at least $5 trillion have been shifted out of poorer countries to the West since the mid-1970.

It is further estimated by experts that one per cent of the world's population holds more than 57 per cent of total global wealth, routing it invariably through these tax havens. How much of this is from India is anybody's guess.

What is to be noted here is that most of the wealth of Indians parked in these tax havens is illegitimate money acquired through corrupt means. Naturally, the secrecy associated with the bank accounts in such places is central to the issue, not their low tax rates as the term 'tax havens' suggests. Remember Bofors and how India could not trace the ultimate beneficiary of those transactions because of the secrecy associated with these bank accounts?

IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN SAVE INDIA?
Faun
Faun #2
Dec 18, 2008 at 8:39 AM
20:80::80:20
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Bro you know that i always wished to publish this article on my blog but never had a chance to write about the indian money in swiss banks...
after the account holders die the money remains on the foreign land..
so i used to think that what if our indian government just stop putting those stupid taxes and investigations so that indian money remain in india...then even if the account holders die it is for india to claim that money not the swiss government
I think something should be seriously done about it..
the corrupt leaders or industrialists who have kept their money outside due to fear of the indian rules and regulations should be surely be kept in faith that if they keep the same money in india nothing will be asked for of their money..
moreover you never know that then we may also have accounts from foreign provinces as in swiss bank

I think
"This article should be published along with the explanation as mine on as many forums and blogs as possible so that sometimes if by chance some officials read it they may think of such a bank in India too.."
rhitwick
Dec 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Long ago I got this in a fwd mail.
I ignored it as there are so many such topics which spread in fwd mails.

But, as u guys are taking it seriously, can u tell me which facts, provided here, can be believed?
RCuber
RCuber #6
Dec 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Sumit .. the source please.. if this is from a chain mail then its unrealiable.
desiibond
Dec 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I would say "India is poor but Indians are rich".
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 18, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Sumit .. the source please.. if this is from a chain mail then its unrealiable.

Long ago I got this in a fwd mail.
I ignored it as there are so many such topics which spread in fwd mails.

But, as u guys are taking it seriously, can u tell me which facts, provided here, can be believed?

You guys doubting this one..
well then i must say that even if the above person don't have an evidence or source to support it or let it be the so called chain mail even then you people can't deny the fact Indians have their hell lot of money in swiss banks and moreover it is left there when they die because nobody is left behind then to claim that very money..
you can deny the figures but you can't deny the idea od indian money in swiss banks
M
Dec 18, 2008 at 11:44 AM
IS INDIA A POOR COUNTRY?
by M R Venkatesh
Source is given by Red and also here: *www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=m.r.+venkatesh&btnG=Google+Search&aq=0&oq=m.r.+venk

He writes articles pertaining to Indian Economy ;)
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Source is given by Red and also here: *www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=m.r.+venkatesh&btnG=Google+Search&aq=0&oq=m.r.+venk

He writes articles pertaining to Indian Economy ;)
That's it the evidence is also given...
well guys if we really wish to bring back our money back to our country we really have to spread this to as much locations/forums/blogs as possible what do you think
Faun
Faun #11
Dec 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
^^our money ??? lol
Sathish
Sathish #13
Dec 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM
hackers community can only be help in this matter.. they should try to hack the swiss bank a/c info and release name-wise details of investers to all social networking sites/media..
but our people does not care about anything and put their votes to the useless politician..
INS-ANI
INS-ANI #14
Dec 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM
india is a rich country which acts and think like a poor.
its all in mind.
esumitkumar
Dec 18, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Well Charan ..I got this in a fwd mail ..wasnt expecting a debate to take place ;)

and Mrinmay aka Mrintech thnx for pointing out source .......

I agree wid Betruger comments for taking help from hackers ..
but .......any Indian hacker can do it ??
RCuber
RCuber #16
Dec 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
^^ actually .. its the swiss bank rules that interested me in this topic rather then how much money is deposited by Indians in swiss banks.. AFAIK swiss bank doesnot give these details to anyone except the account holder. thats why people open a Swiss bank account :p.
rhitwick
rhitwick #17
Dec 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM
^^ actually .. its the swiss bank rules that interested me in this topic rather then how much money is deposited by Indians in swiss banks.. .AFAIK swiss bank doesnot give these details to anyone except the account holder thats why people open a Swiss bank account :p.
Exactly. Thats d reason I ignored it first time.
Lots of novels have proudly featured this specialty in them.

Mostly used by Jeffrey Archer*s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/25.png
RCuber
RCuber #18
Dec 18, 2008 at 4:17 PM
^^ Bourne Identity!! :D
kumarmohit
Dec 18, 2008 at 4:32 PM
But wait if the Swiss bank do not divulge the bank account information to anyone other than the account holder, who conducted the study to reach to this figure.

Why do I smell another crap chain mail?
RCuber
RCuber #20
Dec 18, 2008 at 4:49 PM
More info on swiss bank

a quote:
Swiss bank secrecy does not protect private banking information; the protections afforded under Swiss law are similar to confidentiality protections between doctors and patients or lawyers and their clients. The Swiss government views the right to privacy as a fundamental principle that should be protected by all democratic countries. While secrecy is protected, in practice all bank accounts are linked to an identified individual, and a prosecutor or judge may issue a "lifting order" in order to grant law enforcement access to information relevant to a criminal investigation

In simply words.. the bank will give the details only if its a order form a judge for a criminal investigation. else its nothing is given :p.
esumitkumar
Dec 18, 2008 at 5:30 PM
^^ actually .. its the swiss bank rules that interested me in this topic rather then how much money is deposited by Indians in swiss banks.. AFAIK swiss bank doesnot give these details to anyone except the account holder. thats why people open a Swiss bank account :p.
hmm seems u r interested to open a swiss bank account and deposit all street hawk DVDs in that *www.msgking.com/images/emoticons/smileys/smileys84.gif
rhitwick
rhitwick #22
Dec 18, 2008 at 5:30 PM
I love swiss policies.
TPB, SwissBank sab FTW!!!
*s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/23large.png
RCuber
RCuber #23
Dec 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM
hmm seems u r interested to open a swiss bank account and deposit all street hawk DVDs in that *www.msgking.com/images/emoticons/smileys/smileys84.gif
LOL . no I am just curious how the swiss bank's work :D .. DVD's stay with me :D
M
mrintech #24
Dec 18, 2008 at 5:57 PM
*www.msgking.com/images/emoticons/smileys/smileys122.gif
Psychosocial
Dec 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM
hmm seems u r interested to open a swiss bank account and deposit all street hawk DVDs in that *www.msgking.com/images/emoticons/smileys/smileys84.gif

lol @smiley :lol:
amitabhishek
Dec 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM
But wait if the Swiss bank do not divulge the bank account information to anyone other than the account holder, who conducted the study to reach to this figure.

Why do I smell another crap chain mail?

Such kind virals are pretty common in chain mails. No one likes them but still they spread.
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 18, 2008 at 6:56 PM
I love swiss policies.
TPB, SwissBank sab FTW!!!
*s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/23large.png

can't we have a bank in india with similar policies as swiss banks so that Money stays in India :confused::confused::confused:
rhitwick
rhitwick #28
Dec 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Chal BANK banate hai. Ya open karte hai, ya...
Bank kaya kiya jata hai re?:confused::confused::confused:
Renny
Renny #29
Dec 18, 2008 at 8:29 PM
$1.4 Trillion is more than our Gross Domestic Product!!
The_Devil_Himself
Dec 18, 2008 at 8:34 PM
you shouldn't believe every other mofo who writes because,well he can.
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 20, 2008 at 10:16 AM
If that money was there India would have been a SP country
Agreed so would you guys help me to make this article get published on your blogs and as much forums as you know i know 20-25 forums where i can post this...:p
M
Dec 20, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Hi frynd ,,, i yam General Genghis Khan frum somalia . We recently high jacked a ship off the waters of somalia and the govrnment of zimbabwe paid us 1 million dollars as ransom .. My frynd i knead ur social security noombers and your caredit cards along with the dietails of your clients noombers so that i can transfer the cash to ur accounts ... u will get to keep 00.00000005 % of the total money but if u tell me where i can find a brain like yours then i will give u .000000005 % of the total amount .... What say ????



Well if u did believe the post by the thread starter then i am expecting to be really really rich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
esumitkumar
Dec 20, 2008 at 7:51 PM
^rakesh.mehra ...if u dont beleive this ..no one can make u beleive...people dont believe in GOD also...its ur life what u beleive and what u dont :D

I also dont know this post is true or not....but at least it focussed some light on this issue ...!!
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 20, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Hi frynd ,,, i yam General Genghis Khan frum somalia . We recently high jacked a ship off the waters of somalia and the govrnment of zimbabwe paid us 1 million dollars as ransom .. My frynd i knead ur social security noombers and your caredit cards along with the dietails of your clients noombers so that i can transfer the cash to ur accounts ... u will get to keep 00.00000005 % of the total money but if u tell me where i can find a brain like yours then i will give u .000000005 % of the total amount .... What say ????



Well if u did believe the post by the thread starter then i am expecting to be really really rich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF :confused:
thewisecrab
Dec 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Hi frynd ,,, i yam General Genghis Khan frum somalia . We recently high jacked a ship off the waters of somalia and the govrnment of zimbabwe paid us 1 million dollars as ransom .. My frynd i knead ur social security noombers and your caredit cards along with the dietails of your clients noombers so that i can transfer the cash to ur accounts ... u will get to keep 00.00000005 % of the total money but if u tell me where i can find a brain like yours then i will give u .000000005 % of the total amount .... What say ????



Well if u did believe the post by the thread starter then i am expecting to be really really rich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to be rude, but I believe the value of 1 million Zimbabwe dollars is about 500/- :|, due to extremely levels of hyper inflation.
esumitkumar
Dec 20, 2008 at 9:00 PM
^^^ he he he very true :lol:
casanova
casanova #38
Dec 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Why shouldn't the government enquire about the huge amount of money. It is not earned legimately. They are looting the government (every Indian's money). It's the looters that should understand that they are looting to an extent even they can't use it to its fullest.
M
Dec 21, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Not to be rude, but I believe the value of 1 million Zimbabwe dollars is about 500/- :|, due to extremely levels of hyper inflation.

Actually its like 26 INR :) ..... ok i get it ... i m very bad at satirical writing ....


AFAIK the thing the stupid writer is referring to is the UBS or credit suisse v/s US government case ..... which UBS lost

1.2 trillion $ :;HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :; ;i m laughing so hard that even my bum is aching ....
iNFiNiTE
iNFiNiTE #40
Dec 21, 2008 at 7:10 AM
Here is the link for the supposed report (Swiss Banking Association report 2006)which is supposedly the base for the insane article.

The two times India is mentioned in the report (page 10) are as follows:
Representing interests as far afield as China and India

For some years now the Asian markets have been a key pillar of the international expansion plans of certain Swiss banks. With this in mind it is only logical for the SBA to promote its agenda in these countries as well – specifically China (including Hong Kong) and Singapore. As a result the SBA is helping Swiss banks to enter these markets by lobbying for better framework conditions. At the same time we are making a huge effort to establish a network of contacts in this growth region. In order to achieve these goals we have increased the frequency of our visits to the area and have also welcomed delegations from China to Switzerland. A delegation is provisionally scheduled to make a first visit to India early in 2008 with the aim, amongst other things, of explaining the conditions governing the Swiss banking system.

Nowhere is the alleged citing of the money deposited from various countries.

Sheesh people, atleast do a little fact finding before you start jumping to conclusions.:rolleyes:

Want the 2008 report too? Here it is
Revolution
Dec 21, 2008 at 8:09 AM
At least I'm not a rich person.....:(
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 21, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Why shouldn't the government enquire about the huge amount of money. It is not earned legimately. They are looting the government (every Indian's money). It's the looters that should understand that they are looting to an extent even they can't use it to its fullest.
Agreed but it requires an awareness in the indian people like that of AIDS...lol :rolleyes:
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 22, 2008 at 7:39 PM
i think wont be legal this way too better edit it...post this article on the sites you know no need to list them here
M
Mystic #44
Dec 22, 2008 at 7:50 PM
You guys really believe the article? lol.
G
gigyaster #47
Dec 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I don't know whether this article is true or not my someone has rightly said

"India is a rich country but all the moneys are in the wrong pocket which makes India poor"
M
Mystic #49
Dec 23, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Give me a reason for believing this article.

Swiss bank doesn't revile such information, they simply have no whatsoever reason to do that.
Indians smugglers, politicians, <add corrupted people> obviously have a huge sum of black money in swiss banks - but that doesn't mean you'll have to believe in that India tops the list.
The article is a chain letter, not real. If it is, why won't this be in all over the news?

Besides all these, you can't "claim" the money. Unfortunately, it isn't something a common person could investigate, unless there's a major power group forces itself to do, which, as you know, not going to happen.

You'd be better at spending your energy on something that would be productive and generate domestic revenue instead of yelling what had happened before. India can easily be a not-so-poor country if we get the thing that we lack, [innovative] entrepreneurs.
iNFiNiTE
iNFiNiTE #50
Dec 23, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Give me a reason for not believing this article :|

iNFiNiTE said:
Here is the link for the supposed report (Swiss Banking Association report 2006)which is supposedly the base for the insane article.

The two times India is mentioned in the report (page 10) are as follows:
:Representing interests as far afield as China and India

For some years now the Asian markets have been a key pillar of the international expansion plans of certain Swiss banks. With this in mind it is only logical for the SBA to promote its agenda in these countries as well – specifically China (including Hong Kong) and Singapore. As a result the SBA is helping Swiss banks to enter these markets by lobbying for better framework conditions. At the same time we are making a huge effort to establish a network of contacts in this growth region. In order to achieve these goals we have increased the frequency of our visits to the area and have also welcomed delegations from China to Switzerland. A delegation is provisionally scheduled to make a first visit to India early in 2008 with the aim, amongst other things, of explaining the conditions governing the Swiss banking system.

Nowhere is the alleged citing of the money deposited from various countries.

Sheesh people, atleast do a little fact finding before you start jumping to conclusions.

Want the 2008 report too? Here it is

Did you even read this post? :rolleyes:
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Give me a reason for believing this article.

Swiss bank doesn't revile such information, they simply have no whatsoever reason to do that.
Indians smugglers, politicians, <add corrupted people> obviously have a huge sum of black money in swiss banks - but that doesn't mean you'll have to believe in that India tops the list.
The article is a chain letter, not real. If it is, why won't this be in all over the news?

Besides all these, you can't "claim" the money. Unfortunately, it isn't something a common person could investigate, unless there's a major power group forces itself to do, which, as you know, not going to happen.

You'd be better at spending your energy on something that would be productive and generate domestic revenue instead of yelling what had happened before. India can easily be a not-so-poor country if we get the thing that we lack, [innovative] entrepreneurs.
I did said that figures may not be right but the idea is right..
anyways we can't get the money back that's already there but of course if came in the mind of the high authorities we could surely have such banks in india...to keep people's black money...
and infinite bro...the idea was not about any competition that where india stands in their list but the idea is of the way of rules swiss banks work on...;)
Ecstasy
Ecstasy #52
Dec 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
It shows how much corruption has taken over in our country. If given 2 more years it will double the amount which Swiss bank has shown without a doubt.
M
Mystic #53
Dec 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM
I did said that figures may not be right but the idea is right..
anyways we can't get the money back that's already there but of course if came in the mind of the high authorities we could surely have such banks in india...to keep people's black money...
and infinite bro...the idea was not about any competition that where india stands in their list but the idea is of the way of rules swiss banks work on...;)

Why would you want to have a bank that just let the black money get in? Strange, instead of tackling with the corruption, you encourages people to not pay taxes, smuggle, etc?

You all blame too much on the politicians, aren't the person who bribes to get work done quick is a ordinary citizen? Aren't there literally many [who are capable and eligible to pay] non-tax payers? Aren't we the same person who skips a red light and if caught, get away by paying some hundreds instead of the thousand fine.

Corruption starts from the root within the people.
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 25, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Why would you want to have a bank that just let the black money get in? Strange, instead of tackling with the corruption, you encourages people to not pay taxes, smuggle, etc?

You all blame too much on the politicians, aren't the person who bribes to get work done quick is a ordinary citizen? Aren't there literally many [who are capable and eligible to pay] non-tax payers? Aren't we the same person who skips a red light and if caught, get away by paying some hundreds instead of the thousand fine.

Corruption starts from the root within the people.

ok so you have an idea how to stop corruption...i mean please get over it...even if you kill the corrupt people then too more will be born...corruption is now in Indian blood sorry to say but it's truth...so why not just letting the money stay in india even if it's black so that when the person dies atleast money remains in India instead of Swiss banks :(
M
Mystic #55
Dec 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Perhaps you didn't understand. That is the only way an ordinary person can stop corruption, the fact you wait for superman or hero - that's not going to happen. I've nowhere said to "kill" people, all I said is to stop corruption. Again, it's hard - people think that bribing someone hundred rupee won't hurt anyone - but that's not true, that money 'may' use to kill people - where do the terrorist get the money? corrupted governments! where do the government get money? us.

You don't need to be Bhagat Singh or Gandhi to 'save' this country, just follow the laws and stop adding corruption. If you want to go one step ahead, do volunteer to the charity groups, educate yourself about everything (dumb won't even know its a dumb), educate your surrounding and so many things, and most important keep neutrality. The guy who has a will to help, find the right path. Most of the time you try to talk about such things with, say college friends, they would likely to say "shut up", but be glad you tried and may have inspired someone.

OK, for a minute, let's say, there's a bank in India with swiss policy - yet there would be no one to stuff its million dollar black money in it. The only reason people store their money in overseas bank are because it's hard to enforce laws on another country, hard to trace the money.
In fact, people DO have black money in Indian banks (not paying tax? you've black money), no one can just get in and say "Hey, show me the money". You'd need some evidence that this XYZ is proven guilty, has corrupted money - account sealed. Black money isn't something that get through the eyes of government or tax, so can't be used for development - useless. I'm sure you don't want to be some mafia country.

But I give up, I understand the youth who would just want to wait for a movie-style hero or either the 'god avatar' (no wonder IndiaTV has a market share). Most youths are either hopeless or clueless, pff.

Interesting thread by Gaurav, you might to have a read.

P.S. Just in case, I'm taking this as a debate, hope you didn't feel being "offended".
Faun
Faun #56
Dec 25, 2008 at 5:55 PM
A man who was superman :p :/
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 25, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Perhaps you didn't understand. That is the only way an ordinary person can stop corruption, the fact you wait for superman or hero - that's not going to happen. I've nowhere said to "kill" people, all I said is to stop corruption. Again, it's hard - people think that bribing someone hundred rupee won't hurt anyone - but that's not true, that money 'may' use to kill people - where do the terrorist get the money? corrupted governments! where do the government get money? us.

You don't need to be Bhagat Singh or Gandhi to 'save' this country, just follow the laws and stop adding corruption. If you want to go one step ahead, do volunteer to the charity groups, educate yourself about everything (dumb won't even know its a dumb), educate your surrounding and so many things, and most important keep neutrality. The guy who has a will to help, find the right path. Most of the time you try to talk about such things with, say college friends, they would likely to say "shut up", but be glad you tried and may have inspired someone.

OK, for a minute, let's say, there's a bank in India with swiss policy - yet there would be no one to stuff its million dollar black money in it. The only reason people store their money in overseas bank are because it's hard to enforce laws on another country, hard to trace the money.
In fact, people DO have black money in Indian banks (not paying tax? you've black money), no one can just get in and say "Hey, show me the money". You'd need some evidence that this XYZ is proven guilty, has corrupted money - account sealed. Black money isn't something that get through the eyes of government or tax, so can't be used for development - useless. I'm sure you don't want to be some mafia country.

But I give up, I understand the youth who would just want to wait for a movie-style hero or either the 'god avatar' (no wonder IndiaTV has a market share). Most youths are either hopeless or clueless, pff.

Interesting thread by Gaurav, you might to have a read.

P.S. Just in case, I'm taking this as a debate, hope you didn't feel being "offended".
well friend actually i liked talking to you coz u only seemed to be interested in this topic expect me...
so no chance of being offended.
So now continuing the debate
Ok agreeing to you as you said stop corruption I stop it from this second but now what about the other billions of people everybody can never be stopped no matter what you do. Coming to the second point of following rules everybody doesn't do that to and you should also know my friend Gandhi, Bhagat Singh and for the matter of fact (for T159) even Superman had opposing people. So corrupt people do the same oppose rules not even a Superman can stop entire corruption. Why don't people just accept this fact. Now for the third point even if people make an account in foreign countries for the sake of different rules and regulation of the two countries then why can't we expect the foreign money in the bank indian government can set up. even if the indians dont open up account in their own homeland other might. Well for me being corrupted or having black money in the bank I would just say "I'm 17" this would expain it better than anything else. And for your last part we are not here waiting for a movie type hero to stop all this we just want the Indian government to function according to the people they want it to be. If they can't stop corruption so do they need a bank for their black moey and if we are providing them this in India what the big deal. After all a country's economy is judged by how much money is in the country and not by whose money is in the country. And by mistake I missed one part of terrorists having the same money which leaders take from us. Well ask a corrupt leader to give you a 100 Rs. note and trust me he wont even if he's having a billion dollars in his swiss bank. And giving crores of rupees to terrorists are they nuts???
I hope you get my point so what do you think :p
iNFiNiTE
iNFiNiTE #58
Dec 26, 2008 at 5:07 AM
zOMG!!! ROFLMAO :D
*sigh* Almost feel like banging my head on a wall.
pc_game_lover2004
Dec 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM
dont do that bro we need you at the forum...hehe :D