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KDE 4 Released/Preview : The future GUI ?

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Dark Star
Dark Star Original post #1
Jan 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
*www.imgx.org/pfiles/4550/kde40.png​

The KDE Community is thrilled to announce the immediate availability of KDE 4.0. This significant release marks both the end of the long and intensive development cycle leading up to KDE 4.0 and the beginning of the KDE 4 era.

The KDE 4 Desktop has gained some major new capabilities. The Plasma desktop shell offers a new desktop interface, including panel, menu and widgets on the desktop as well as a dashboard function. KWin, the KDE Window manager, now supports advanced graphical effects to ease interaction with your windows.

Lots of KDE Applications have seen improvements as well. Visual updates through vector-based artwork, changes in the underlying libraries, user interface enhancements, new features, even new applications -- you name it, KDE 4.0 has it. Okular, the new document viewer and Dolphin, the new file manager are only two applications that leverage KDE 4.0's new technologies.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4546/kickoff-favorites.jpg​
  • Plasma is the new desktop shell. Plasma provides a panel, a menu and other intuitive means to interact with the desktop and applications.
  • KWin, KDE's proven window manager, now supports advanced compositing features. Hardware accelerated painting takes care of a smoother and more intuitive interaction with windows.
  • Oxygen is the KDE 4.0 artwork. Oxygen provides a consistent, easy on the eye and beautiful artwork concept.
*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4544/dashboard.jpg​

Panel : The Plasma Panel holds the menu, the systray and a list of tasks. The taskbar, located in the panel, can show live thumbnails of windows that are currently hidden, the Taskbar Thumbnails.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4553/panel.jpg​

Dolphin : is KDE4's new file manager. You can browse, locate, open, copy and move files with it. Dolphin concentrates on ease of use and replaces Konqueror's filemanagement component, which was used in KDE 3 and earlier. While Konqueror can still be used as file manager, and in fact shares the fileview functionality with Dolphin, the KDE team has decided to introduce an application that is optimized for file management: Dolphin.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4551/dolphin-groups.jpg *www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4552/dolphin-splitview.jpg​

Desktop Switcher : The Panel holds an applet that provides similar functionality and is also available when Desktop Effects have been disabled. Right click on the "Pager"in the panel to configure the number and arrangement of your virtual desktops. Drag the pager applet from the applet browser to the panel or to the desktop.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4549/pager.jpg​

Taskbar Thumbnail : The effect Taskbar Thumbnails enables live previews of windows when you move the mouse over their entry in the taskbar. This makes for easy monitoring of activity in hidden windows and application activity. Taskbar Thumbnails also provide visual hints to ease locating the application you want to switch to.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4547/kwin-taskbarthumbnails.jpg​

Okular and Gwenview: Gwenview is KDE's image viewer. While it was available in KDE3, the KDE4 version has a simplified user interface, making it more suitable for quickly browsing through your collection of images. Gwenviev is also used to display images. It provides a nice full screen interface that can be used to display your images as a slideshow.

Okular is KDE4's document viewer. It supports a multitude of formats, ranging from PDF files to OpenDocument files. Okular is not limited to only reading file


*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4555/gwenview.jpg *www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4554/okular.jpg
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Marble Desktop Globe Marble is an application which shows you a three-dimensional map globe which you can rotate and view. Use your mousewheel to zoom in and out. Grab the globe with your mouse to drag it around.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4556/marble.jpg​

KStars Desktop Planetarium: KStars is an application which you can use to view the nightsky above. It can be used to control digital telescopes, even remotely over the internet. When you start it, you will be presented with a dialog asking you to select the your location.

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/4557/kstars.jpg​

Download :
  • An alpha version of KDE4-based Arklinux 2008.1 is expected shortly after this release, with an expected final release within 3 or 4 weeks.
  • Debian KDE 4.0 packages are available in the experimental branch. The KDE Development Platform will even make it into Lenny. Watch for announcements by the Debian KDE Team. Rumours are that a Live CD is planned as well.
  • Fedora will feature KDE 4.0 in Fedora 9, to be released in April, with Alpha releases being available from 24th of January. KDE 4.0 packages are in the pre-alpha Rawhide repository.
  • Gentoo Linux provides KDE 4.0 builds on Gentoo Linux Projects -- Gentoo KDE Project.
  • Kubuntu packages are included in the upcoming "Hardy Heron" (8.04) and also made available as updates for the stable "Gutsy Gibbon" (7.10). A Live CD is available for trying out KDE 4.0. More details can be found in the announcement on Kubuntu.org.
  • Mandriva will provide packages for 2008.0 and aims at producing a Live CD with the latest snapshot of 2008.1.
  • openSUSE packages are available for openSUSE 10.3 (one-click install), openSUSE Factory (one-click install) and openSUSE 10.2. A KDE Four Live CD with these packages is also available. KDE 4.0 will be part of the upcoming openSUSE 11.0 release.
gxsaurav
Jan 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Not to downplay, but yeah...good thing they copied the good features from Vista & Mac OS X
Pat
Pat #3
Jan 12, 2008 at 12:25 AM
@Darkie: Dont call it a GUI yaar :) Its a lot more than that :)
btw, have you made a new distro yourself ? :p Lol!

Actually,there is new distro out there in the blocks with the name "Darkstar" :D
*www.darkstarlinux.ro/en/content/darkstar-linux-20081-0
sourav123
Jan 12, 2008 at 3:23 AM
This looks cool...I have decided to postpone my switch to linux in favour of KDE 4.0 stable release :)
praka123
Jan 12, 2008 at 4:23 AM
hmm..kde4 released!will have to get a livecd!still a satisfied Gnome user! :)
wait!here is the opensuse kde4 livecd(500+MB),if u wanna give a try ;)
Description

The current installable Live-CD contains only packages which are part of the KDE 4.0 release.
Checksums

95f08b9e57fda0ab062e820bbc523df7 KDE-Four-Live.i686-1.0.iso
1f7a2938566933fb33d8d3a3389ad7da KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.9.iso
6861306432975560a1776a244abdb87d KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.8.1.iso
Usage

(Decompress and) burn, or use in QEmu, VirtualBox, VMWare, ... Users

The 'linux' user and 'root' have no password.
*home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
KDE-Four-Live.i686.1.0.iso (Torrent)
axxo
axxo #6
Jan 12, 2008 at 7:11 PM
^Thanks for the Link....KDE is my taste since RHL 9....
Dark Star
Jan 12, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Here is a small How to which will let you install KDE 4 in Ubuntu Gutsy ;)

DO these in Terminal

Code:
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Add these lines at the bottom

Code:
deb *ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
Then

Code:
sudo aptitude update

If you have any pre-release of KDE 4 remove it by

Code:
sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 kde4base-data kde4libs-data

Now install kde4.0

Code:
sudo aptitude install kde4-core

This will complete the kde4.0 installation



Now use KDE 4 after log out and change Desktop Manager via Sessions in Log In Screen :)
N
Net007 #8
Jan 12, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Thanks for the screen shots.
axxo
axxo #9
Jan 12, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Here is a small How to which will let you install KDE 4 in Ubuntu Gutsy ;)

DO these in Terminal

Code:
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Add these lines at the bottom

Code:
deb *ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
Then

Code:
sudo aptitude update
If you have any pre-release of KDE 4 remove it by

Code:
sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 kde4base-data kde4libs-data
Now install kde4.0

Code:
sudo aptitude install kde4-core
This will complete the kde4.0 installation



Now use KDE 4 after log out and change Desktop Manager via Sessions in Log In Screen :)

so does that mean we need not have kubuntu for KDE experience....Ubuntu is just enough?
Dark Star
Dark Star #10
Jan 12, 2008 at 10:39 PM
^^yep ;)
x3060
x3060 #11
Jan 12, 2008 at 10:58 PM
nice screens....:), beautifullllllll
praka123
praka123 #12
Jan 13, 2008 at 4:13 AM
kubuntu seems for me a little buggy!i feel,better install kde in ubuntu.remove Gnome DE and gnome-gtk packages which ur not gonna use.still,even in kde only distros,ppl needs gtklibs as dep for many packages ;)
K
khattam_ #13
Jan 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Where can I get the link to Offline install pack for OpenSuse 10.3?
drgrudge
drgrudge #14
Jan 13, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Looks very good. But Atleast 2 of the above feature seems to be copied from Mac OS X.
praka123
praka123 #15
Jan 13, 2008 at 11:03 AM
^yeah,the very OS X itself is copied and forked from freebsd,safari browser webkit is copied and ripped off from KHTML(kde) of Konqueror browser and still relies on kde and Linux/ open source community for almost 50% of basic tools like CUPS etc .so we can see who has copied whom :x happy ?
OS X is just a bad fork of freebsd if to be answered frankly!:evil:
drgrudge
drgrudge #16
Jan 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM
^^
Hey, chill out man. Got Honey inside you? :D

I've neither used FreeBSD nor Safari to comment on your statement.

But either way 1. KDE 4 copied from OS X or 2. OS X copied from FreeBSD is a good product (atleast OS X is). Look at Vista. MS gave a copy of OS X Tiger (released back in 2004/5) to their developers and they screwed it! :lol:
praka123
praka123 #17
Jan 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM
^wrote in a jiffy! :D
Zeeshan Quireshi
Jan 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM
KDE 4 might make me install Linux on my PC rather than in a Virtual Machine(as i currently do) .
T
Tech_Wiz #19
Jan 13, 2008 at 1:09 PM
on GG I am kinda happy with GNome than KDE. Btw Whats the size of the KDE package I fi want to download it through Apt
praka123
praka123 #20
Jan 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM
^around 200mb :p
T
Tech_Wiz #21
Jan 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM
k Idea Dropped then :D
CadCrazy
CadCrazy #22
Jan 13, 2008 at 5:00 PM
For me its 132 MB
blueshift
blueshift #23
Jan 13, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Kool.
Pat
Pat #24
Jan 13, 2008 at 10:36 PM
For me kde4-core was 117 MB on Gutsy
T
The Conqueror #25
Jan 14, 2008 at 11:30 AM
kde 4 is cool and it rocks :D
NucleusKore
Jan 14, 2008 at 11:38 AM
I wonder if the final version is here. Any way of knowing before I mirror the repository? The last modified dates look recent.
CadCrazy
CadCrazy #27
Jan 17, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Ok installed. My advice to vista fanboys.
" Do not install it otherwise you'll start hating your Vista "
Dark Star
Dark Star #28
Jan 17, 2008 at 8:56 AM
^^ Installed over 113 Mb of D/l...am not happy with what I got.. I would rather love to have a KDE 4 based distros ;)
amitava82
amitava82 #29
Jan 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Ok then its my time to download..
F
FilledVoid #30
Jan 17, 2008 at 10:28 AM
If I recall everyone on Ubuntu IRC is recommending to use KDE4 based distros rather than Installing kde core on Gutsy. Not sure why. I recall someone recommending trying Kubuntu and then upgrading kde4 ?
amitava82
amitava82 #31
Jan 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I just downloaded Kubuntu Live cd with KDE 4. It does not have any application, not even web browser. Total useless. I'll just wait for the final full functional release.
F
FilledVoid #32
Jan 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM
I just downloaded Kubuntu Live cd with KDE 4. It does not have any application, not even web browser. Total useless. I'll just wait for the final full functional release.

The second release candidate of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu 7.10.

If you want to test KDE 4 without installing packages download the live CD (466MB). This CD includes a preview of the Konqueror Webkit engine.

Source: *www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
praka123
praka123 #33
Jan 17, 2008 at 1:36 PM
^well i am trying the kde4 Open suse livecd(much better!)
ray|raven
ray|raven #34
Jan 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Could someone post the memory usage?
Is KDE 4 more resposive than KDE 3?

Regards,
ray
infra_red_dude
Jan 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM
^^^ Yeah, me too wanna know!
Dark Star
Dark Star #36
Jan 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM
On my system its taking an average of 300-400 Mb while total physical memory is 768 Mb. So I guess its pretty heavy

Note: the usage are noted while Desktop effects were On ;)
ray|raven
ray|raven #38
Jan 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM
On my system its taking an average of 300-400 Mb while total physical memory is 768 Mb. So I guess its pretty heavy

Note: the usage are noted while Desktop effects were On ;)

Is that just for the DE?
In that case its very heavy.
Compare that with xfce, which uses ~40megs in idle state on my system :p

Regards,
ray
Pat
Pat #39
Jan 18, 2008 at 12:51 AM
I hope you guys are aware of the interesting things happening around the new KDE release:

Just a gist:

1:> Thom from OSNews posts a mini-review of KDE 4 which supposedly doesnt go down well with a KDE Developer

Link to review on OSNews:
*www.osnews.com/story/19159/KDE_4.0.0:_Sweet_Follows_Sour

2:> The "angry" developer responds to the criticism

*www.osnews.com/story/19161/No_Good_Would_Have_Come_From_Delaying_the_Release

Dont forget to read the comments on OSNews..There are lots of comments by both the original reviewer and the developer as they both try to put their point across.Interesting read!!

Bottomline: KDE 4.0 is *still* just a developer release or more of a preview and hence should not be considered as a stable,mature desktop environment!
praka123
praka123 #40
Jan 18, 2008 at 1:12 AM
^what the..long time man!Gnome had released 3 versions at the same time,although most are bug-fix releases :lol:
CadCrazy
CadCrazy #41
Jan 18, 2008 at 1:21 AM
KDE4 core is on heavier side. Althogh never used KDE before.This may be due upgraded version
Pat
Pat #42
Jan 18, 2008 at 1:23 AM
I was looking forward to try KDE 4.0! But after the initial reviews and bug reports,I have given up!
praka123
praka123 #43
Jan 18, 2008 at 1:28 AM
^even i read kde devels says that this is again another "beta" :rolleyes: