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Kuwait MPs okay death penalty for cursing God

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Desmond
Desmond Original post #1
Apr 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Kuwait's parliament on Thursday provisionally passed amendments to the Gulf state's penal code stipulating the death penalty for those who curse God, Islam's Prophet Mohammed or his wives.

Forty-six MPs, including cabinet ministers, voted for the key amendments that will come into effect only after another round of voting and government approval. The second and final vote will take place in two weeks.

Four Shiite MPs voted against the law, a pro-Shiite Sunni lawmaker abstained, while two MPs refused to vote.

Shiite MPs have demanded that the new amendments also enforce the death penalty for anyone who curses their sect's 12 revered Imams, but the Sunni- dominated parliament rejected their requests.

The move to stiffen penalties for religious crimes came after authorities last month arrested a Shiite tweeter for allegedly cursing the Prophet Mohammed, his wife and some companions.

The suspect, Hamad al-Naqi, is being detained pending further interrogation and trial.

Sectarian tensions have flared in Kuwait between the Sunni majority and Shiites, who form about a third of the native population of 1.17 million, reflecting rising regional tensions between the two Islamic sects.

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mohityadavx
Apr 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Well blasphemy is death offence in Pakistan also.
desiJATT
Apr 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM
And you want us to discuss this? Not every news is worth posting in this forum IMO. But still, it's no big deal. Muslim countries are harsh, and they give severe punishments.
Faun
Faun #4
Apr 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM
haha--wait...wut?
Desmond
Desmond #5
Apr 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM
And you want us to discuss this? Not every news is worth posting in this forum IMO. But still, it's no big deal. Muslim countries are harsh, and they give severe punishments.

Was posting as a FYI. Will keep in mind though.
Sarath
Sarath #6
Apr 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM
I hope this topic is in the fight zone.
sygeek
sygeek #7
Apr 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Whatever happened to the society..
Desmond
Desmond #8
Apr 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM
There is no such thing as society. Just a bunch of rudimentary guidelines. Some people want to pass them as rigid rules.
sygeek
sygeek #9
Apr 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM
There is no such thing as society. Just a bunch of rudimentary guidelines. Some people want to pass them as rigid rules.
Well, you can call it society when each of them have their own culture (or rigid rules).
Desmond
Desmond #10
Apr 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Different guidelines and people follow whichever appeals to them.
Sarath
Sarath #11
Apr 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM
"Hey bhagwan, yeh tune kya kiya"

Oh wait!

Indian movies banned in Kuwait now, atleast the oldies. Everyone's blaming God in them.
Desmond
Desmond #12
Apr 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM
"Hey bhagwan, yeh tune kya kiya"

Oh wait!

Indian movies banned in Kuwait now, atleast the oldies. Everyone's blaming God in them.

That's ok I guess.

Religion makes stuff so complicated.
Sarath
Sarath #13
Apr 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.
Desmond
Desmond #14
Apr 20, 2012 at 5:25 PM
Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.

Amen to that.
icebags
icebags #15
Apr 20, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Their country, their rules, their wish. Can't do much but speculate. Some other populations have even weirder rules.

true. but those of that country that don't agree and neither can go elsewhere, what will happen to them ?
Faun
Faun #16
Apr 20, 2012 at 9:05 PM
true. but those of that country that don't agree and neither can go elsewhere, what will happen to them ?

They should learn to deal with it.
Desmond
Desmond #18
Apr 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM
Sarcasm?

A message to Raja Ram Mohan Roy. Sati System. Deal with it.

With a death penalty involved, I think it'd be wiser to deal with it.
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icebags
icebags #19
Apr 20, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Raja Ram Mohan Roy would also have met DP, if he was not backed by ruling party.

anyways, death penalty common or uncommon, is very serious issue.
Liverpool_fan
Apr 20, 2012 at 11:04 PM
With a death penalty involved, I think it'd be wiser to deal with it.
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Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.
Faun
Faun #22
Apr 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM
Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.

The problem is these laws are based on religious texts, carries a lot more gravity than an ordinary law. And that too in a nearly homogenous society.
A
Apr 21, 2012 at 12:52 PM
I think people take religion way too seriously. The only way to God is to be true to yourself. Enforcing your will upon others is itself an act of blasphemy since you are passing the judgment that is only for God (and His attendants) to decide.

I wish people would wake up to this fact.....
Sarath
Sarath #24
Apr 21, 2012 at 6:04 PM
I think people take religion way too seriously. The only way to God is to be true to yourself. Enforcing your will upon others is itself an act of blasphemy since you are passing the judgment that is only for God (and His attendants) to decide.

Well said, it's akin to saying God is not capable of passing his own judgement.
ssdivisiongermany1933
Apr 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Not my country ..Not my problem . That region is quite sensitive about god and religion
RizEon
RizEon #28
Apr 22, 2012 at 2:52 AM
Thank god I was born im a secular state
mediator
mediator #29
Apr 22, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Don't support the guys who are setting such retarded laws. There would always be a couple of revolutionaries who will bring changes sooner or later.
Sure deal with it, but while solving the problems and not becoming a part of the problem.

What if the source of support is not from some guys, but from a book? Forget about bringing change, those who questioned only were exiled like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Wafa Sultan etc.

ch5, v36
Those who disbelieve, even if they had all that is in the earth, and the like of it with it, to ransom themselves therewith from the chastisement of the day of Resurrection, it would not be accepted from them; and theirs is a painful chastisement.


ch5,v38
And (as for) the man and the woman addicted to theft, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allåh. And Allåh is Mighty, Wise.

ch5, v51
O you who believe, take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends of each other. And whoever amongst you takes them for friends he is indeed one of them. Surely Allåh guides not the unjust people.

ch5, v64

And the Jews say: The hand of Allåh is tied up. Their own hands are shackled and they are cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out.a He disburses as He pleases. And that which has been revealed to thee from thy Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and disbelief. And We have cast among them enmity and hatred till the day of Resurrection. Whenever they kindle a fire for war Allåh puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land.b And Allåh loves not the mischief-makers.

Qur'an, Ch 5, V 33
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger [i.e., Muhammad], and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is:

“ execution, or

“ crucifixion, or

“ the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or

“ exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

[Quran 9:5]
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

[Quran 9:29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


Source :
*www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch009-66.pdf
*www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch009-e.pdf




Full texts of varanasi attacks => Full text of Indian Mujahideen email on Varanasi terror attacks

And finally, yours truly the saviour of the believers, Mr.Zakir Naik => Non-Muslims will not have equal rights => Non-Muslims will not have equal Humanrights - Zakir Naik - YouTube
A
Apr 22, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Well, at least incidents in Norway are showing something else (read news)......

EDIT (again): Removed content of religious context because I don't want to incite religious conversations here.
Desmond
Desmond #31
Apr 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM
What if the source of support is not from some guys, but from a book? Forget about bringing change, those who questioned only were exiled like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Wafa Sultan etc.

ch5, v36
Those who disbelieve, even if they had all that is in the earth, and the like of it with it, to ransom themselves therewith from the chastisement of the day of Resurrection, it would not be accepted from them; and theirs is a painful chastisement.


ch5,v38
And (as for) the man and the woman addicted to theft, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allåh. And Allåh is Mighty, Wise.

ch5, v51
O you who believe, take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends of each other. And whoever amongst you takes them for friends he is indeed one of them. Surely Allåh guides not the unjust people.

ch5, v64

And the Jews say: The hand of Allåh is tied up. Their own hands are shackled and they are cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out.a He disburses as He pleases. And that which has been revealed to thee from thy Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and disbelief. And We have cast among them enmity and hatred till the day of Resurrection. Whenever they kindle a fire for war Allåh puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land.b And Allåh loves not the mischief-makers.

Qur'an, Ch 5, V 33
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger [i.e., Muhammad], and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is:

“ execution, or

“ crucifixion, or

“ the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or

“ exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

[Quran 9:5]
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

[Quran 9:29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


Source :
*www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch009-66.pdf
*www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch009-e.pdf




Full texts of varanasi attacks => Full text of Indian Mujahideen email on Varanasi terror attacks

And finally, yours truly the saviour of the believers, Mr.Zakir Naik => Non-Muslims will not have equal rights => Non-Muslims will not have equal Humanrights - Zakir Naik - YouTube

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pranav0091
Apr 22, 2012 at 5:33 PM
That video... That guy is slaughtering rationality...
Dear god.

Sometimes people amaze me as to how retarded they can get...