Lumia 800 - To be or ...

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Hi guys,
I am looking forward to have a phone which can let me edit documents, use gmail extensively, allow office outlook on it and such official features.

I have my eyes set on this beauty since its launch. Though the price at that time was impediment but now seeing the 21-22K price tag, I think its worth it. however few questions, for which I need your advice.

1. DKR (Dark Knight Edition) - Is it worth it? Can't I get that apps, wallpapers, trailers and crap downloaded content and buy back panel (batman sign etched) for few bucks rather than spending alomst 25K for a phone with no different specs?

2. Can I expect another price drop in say 1-2 months in current prices, given lumia 900 is nearing and W8 can be previewed /unveiled anytime?

I have studied deep enough weighing pros cons against android/iOS et al and believe me, I feel its worth it.

Need your advice, good one

Thanks
Shashank

See all current Windows Phones will not be upgraded to WP8 Os that's why spending 20k+ on current WP7.5 phones doesn't make sense. I suggest you to buy either Samsung Omnia W or Nokia 710 for now & wait till Q1-Q2 of 2013 bcoz at that time you will be able buy this years soon to be released WP8 flagships at much lower price.

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If buying lumia 800 coz of pending Wp8 update doesn't makes sense then what special does Omnia W has that it can be bought even though platforms are same?

Need a phone in 1-2 months can't wait the heck out of this year (who knows when it may end

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You didn't got my point. All current WP7.5 devices available are same in terms of specs, only Display Type, Internal Memory & Design is different. I'm just trying to say that for the timing you buy a Samsung Omnia W or Nokia 710 & save some cash. By next year you'll see lots of WP8 devices in the market so then you sell your current WP & buy newer version.

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Thanks for elaborating. Cash isn't an issue.
See, I have studied specs and everything quite deep. Lumia 800 seems equipped enough even if there might be contenders out there better than it. But its more of a heart matter than mind. I usually buy phones for ~2 years. So you can safely assume that my next buy would be in 2014

W8 doesn't seems to excite me much, got its consumer preview installed, it was okaish..no expectations from mobile version..dunno why?

Blackberry will serve your purpose pretty good.
And BTW why are you not looking for android phone.

shashankm said:
Thanks for elaborating. Cash isn't an issue.
See, I have studied specs and everything quite deep. Lumia 800 seems equipped enough even if there might be contenders out there better than it. But its more of a heart matter than mind. I usually buy phones for ~2 years. So you can safely assume that my next buy would be in 2014
W8 doesn't seems to excite me much, got its consumer preview installed, it was okaish..no expectations from mobile version..dunno why?

Windows Phone 7.5 has serious multitasking issues. Many important apps are not available, and those that are don't run well in the background... Mainly affected are IM and VOIP apps like Whatsapp, Tango, Skype...

If you can wait for 2 months, you should... and get a decent Android phone at that time... Expect a good release of ICS phones in the Indian markets very soon...

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If u r still interested I m ready to sell my 5 months old omnia w @ 7k

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aroraanant said:
Blackberry will serve your purpose pretty good.
And BTW why are you not looking for android phone.

Blackberry - Used and thrown. No plans to go back.
Android - Never excites me, dumb interface, cheap applications (Heck even I developed an application, though not a rambunctious one but still that was reminiscent of 486 era games with limited controls), people actually sway by multi million application market of Android, which is true but then isn't more than 60% of them is full of dirt? I am not a troll looking forward to start OS war here but just my own views. If some one can enlighten me about vindication of Android OS over others I may well upgrade to adv. Android ICS phone as well.

AndroidFan said:
Windows Phone 7.5 has serious multitasking issues. Many important apps are not available, and those that are don't run well in the background... Mainly affected are IM and VOIP apps like Whatsapp, Tango, Skype...
If you can wait for 2 months, you should... and get a decent Android phone at that time... Expect a good release of ICS phones in the Indian markets very soon...

No need to wait for 2 months, there are still 'decent' android phones in market, other than lumia 800 I am eyeing Motorola RAZR Maxx or Xperia S. But WP7.5 has got the slickest interface I've ever seen with zero lags and its shockingly fast. I am used to lags in my applications (a cheap 7K sammy duos

), games, hang ups and it was no better in xperia sola borrowed from a friend, 3-4 heavy duty native applications at one go and it was all it needed to squat down (though never tried this in lumia, no idea what it'll do!). Yeah multitasking takes more twisted grey cells to set in but its a flaw anyways.

ankit360 said:
If u r still interested I m ready to sell my 5 months old omnia w @ 7k

Naah not looking for second hand phone.thanks anyway!

EDIT: And oh yeah, some dumb features which are present in Lumia 800 but aren't visible in 2K phones. Goodness, read that 101 thingy, few of them may be farce but I believe not all!

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Get the Galaxy Nexus and update it to 4.1. Project Butter will make you forget the term lag!

@OP, current gen WP7.5 devices (including the beautiful Lumia 800) are outdated hardware. Games don't run on them (there aren't many in the first place). I have personally tested Need for Speed and Fruit Ninja on my sister's Samsung Focus. Graphics performance is comparable to a cheap 10k Android phone...

If you really want a Windows phone only, wait till October for WP8... I wouldn't recommend WP7 at all...

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I guess waiting then makes sense only iff its October otherwise its Android all the way!

shashankm said:
I guess waiting then makes sense only iff its October otherwise its Android all the way!

Windows Phone 8 may not debut until November

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AndroidFan said:
@OP, current gen WP7.5 devices (including the beautiful Lumia 800) are outdated hardware. Games don't run on them (there aren't many in the first place). I have personally tested Need for Speed and Fruit Ninja on my sister's Samsung Focus. Graphics performance is comparable to a cheap 10k Android phone...

If you really want a Windows phone only, wait till October for WP8... I wouldn't recommend WP7 at all...

ohh come on...games don't run on them?
Being true to your username is one thing, and posting baseless accusations is another.
The only reason not to recommend windows phone now is the lack of support for WP 8 on present models.
Geez really, I have been following the forum for quite some time now, and it's the same users bellowing out the same suggestions on every thread; buy a One V, buy a Neo V, buy a Sola, buy a LWW etc etc. Apart from the 400000 apps thats missing on Windows marketplace, the omnia W is every bit competitive in terms of performance with the above mentioned.(haven't checked the dual-core sola though, so I'll reserve my comment on that)
And I again say, utter rubbish is the allegation that games don't run on Windows Phone (Not even fruit ninjas, really??). Give it a break mate.

I repeat, the only thing that's bothering about WP is the unavailability of WP 8 features on the lumias and omnias. Otherwise, there's absolutely no reason not to consider the windows phone as a serious option.

1st post on THIS forum, sorry for the harsh tone.

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Like I said I will wait till october after which I will pick either razr maxx or any other promising launch from Android sphere, I sincerely hope its not another pretentious S3 with a price tag so high that my cap may fall off my head while trying to look on to it!!!!

It all loops back to waiting...

^^Why not Lumia 800?
It will take care of all your requirements and a few more!
Is your usage pattern going to change with release of WP8?
If not,why bother with it!?
Except a very few phone,Android is still extremely laggy and full of bugs.
Anyone who says or thinks phones like Neo V,One V etc are smooth,does not have a clue about how smooth a mobile os can be!
No! Not talking bout ios here!

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I too am thinking on the same lines, moreover I fell in love with lumia 800 first time I saw it and used it. It was an eyegasm to be precise!

The feel, look, slick OS all made me cringo weak in knees albeit seeing the price tag in Jan I stood up back again. But now it seems as the rational choice!

EDIT: Guys no body seems to be interested in answering the DKR content and app related answer (thats a polite way of putting, no body knows $hit!

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You can buy the TDKR edition if you want to(I know I would). You cannot get a separate back panel as the 800 has a polycarbonate uni-body design which means that the back cover is non removable.

Just cause people didn't answer to a few of your queries doesn't mean that the don't know sh!t. Hell I just chose to ignore it

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SunE said:
You can buy the TDKR edition if you want to(I know I would). You cannot get a separate back panel as the 800 has a polycarbonate uni-body design which means that the back cover is non removable....

Bud, I meant whether I can but DKR apps and content just like DKR edition because this DKR hoopla isn't forever, it will die one day and then there would be options for customization.

SunE said:
...Just cause people didn't answer to a few of your queries doesn't mean that the don't know sh!t. Hell I just chose to ignore it

You knew some huge kicks were intended right?

Riddick_RJ said:
ohh come on...games don't run on them?
Being true to your username is one thing, and posting baseless accusations is another.
The only reason not to recommend windows phone now is the lack of support for WP 8 on present models.
Geez really, I have been following the forum for quite some time now, and it's the same users bellowing out the same suggestions on every thread; buy a One V, buy a Neo V, buy a Sola, buy a LWW etc etc. Apart from the 400000 apps thats missing on Windows marketplace, the omnia W is every bit competitive in terms of performance with the above mentioned.(haven't checked the dual-core sola though, so I'll reserve my comment on that)
And I again say, utter rubbish is the allegation that games don't run on Windows Phone (Not even fruit ninjas, really??). Give it a break mate.

I repeat, the only thing that's bothering about WP is the unavailability of WP 8 features on the lumias and omnias. Otherwise, there's absolutely no reason not to consider the windows phone as a serious option.

1st post on THIS forum, sorry for the harsh tone.

Holy Mollies! How could I miss this post!! Great post mate, your points are valid and yup I too saw fruit ninja running flawlessely on YT. Cheers buddy, there are Android fans, Apple Fans there are Windows Fans! all of them have their own prejudices why not to go for another OS even when they know they aren't getting crap out of it.

high time android/ios fans un-slumber and actually sense something around them
EDIT: UPDATE:
OK GUYS, I AM SHOUTING NOW SO LISTEN...

Lumia 800 brand new for sale at 16K, its a sealed box imported unlocked UK edition.
Is it good? Should I go ahead with it? Do reply its urgent!

shashankm said:
Lumia 800 brand new for sale at 16K, its a sealed box imported unlocked UK edition.
Is it good? Should I go ahead with it? Do reply its urgent!

Are you not bothered by the lack of warranty / repair support here in India? What if it goes kaput? Consider that you plan on keeping it for 2 years (a long time in the life of a mobile phone)

How many of you are really worried about official warranty?
A minimal mechanical damage,a minor spill just to change the colour of the sensor,BANG!!you are on your own!!
@op,if you can take care of SW glitches yourself(I have seen people here who go to service centre for a SW update,scared to root Android!!)go ahead,give it a shot!!
16k is tempting for such a beautiful phone!!

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sling-shot said:
Are you not bothered by the lack of warranty / repair support here in India? What if it goes kaput? Consider that you plan on keeping it for 2 years (a long time in the life of a mobile phone)

Guys a common question, isn't there a thing called international warranty? How Nokia is going to find out I blagged the invoice and seeking free repairs, ever? My sony stood with me for 1.5 years this way until a smart serviceman caught it!

red dragon said:
How many of you are really worried about official warranty?
A minimal mechanical damage,a minor spill just to change the colour of the sensor,BANG!!you are on your own!!
@op,if you can take care of SW glitches yourself(I have seen people here who go to service centre for a SW update,scared to root Android!!)go ahead,give it a shot!!
16k is tempting for such a beautiful phone!!

I guess having experience of modding my k790i to atleast 4 different mods and presently modded W995 to acoustic and camera mods, makes me eligible for taking-care-myself part, right?

@shashankm May I know from where you're getting this UK import Lumia 800 for 16k?

get the lumia 800, you will not regret it + there is the WP 7.8 update coming. Take the plunge. 16k is a good price.. red dragon has a point but you have to decide.
and like you said cash is not the issue in one of your posts , then get the TDKR edition

16k, 21k or 25k .. for your usage the 800 is good.

AndroidFan said:
Games don't run on them (there aren't many in the first place). I have personally tested Need for Speed and Fruit Ninja on my sister's Samsung Focus. Graphics performance is comparable to a cheap 10k Android phone...

lack of knowledge. focus is 1st gen, it does not have adreno 205. it is 1 ghz where as lumia 800 is 1.4 ghz.

Games run perfectly on lumia 800.And there are a lot of games now. Don't post if you don't know.

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Empirial said:
@shashankm May I know from where you're getting this UK import Lumia 800 for 16k?

A guy here, deals in imported products especially mobiles. He got few of them imported in feb last when it was 30K and onset of march it became 23K (remember KLPD!

), he incurred huge losses and since then due to the price decrease its lying as it is. :-D

ssk_the_gr8 said:
get the lumia 800, you will not regret it + there is the WP 7.8 update coming. Take the plunge. 16k is a good price.. red dragon has a point but you have to decide.
and like you said cash is not the issue in one of your posts , then get the TDKR edition

Cash is not an issue doesn't mean I will buy any tom dick n harry edition. And you must have noticed my DKR thread post that I barely liked DK...
puns apart point is if I can get the aftermarket apps same as DKR, there's no way in hell I am going to pay 5-6K extra just for a laser etched batman on the posterior of my phone! Guess I made me clear enough!!

shashankm said:
A guy here, deals in imported products especially mobiles. He got few of them imported in feb last when it was 30K and onset of march it became 23K (remember KLPD!), he incurred huge losses and since then due to the price decrease its lying as it is.

Cash is not an issue doesn't mean I will buy any tom dick n harry edition. And you must have noticed my DKR thread post that I barely liked DK...
puns apart point is if I can get the aftermarket apps same as DKR, there's no way in hell I am going to pay 5-6K extra just for a laser etched batman on the posterior of my phone! Guess I made me clear enough!!

I was not being serious bro . Decide how important warranty is to you and then buy the phone

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ssk_the_gr8 said:
I was not being serious bro . Decide how important warranty is to you and then buy the phone

c'mon, I said it in light and healthy way! Warranty hardly matters, there are several reflashin tutorials doing rounds on internet.

UPDATE: Guys sad news! Person was only having girly pink or cyan color! but not black!

I was like dafuq!

And the quest continues...

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^^ Dude cyan is the best looking Lumia. Go for it!

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Black...is the universal color. Any tile, theme et al will strike a tune instantly. Cyan, pink will take special permutations and coupled with bright colors, they at times might be too eye catching. Cyan looked cool but nowhere deadly near black!

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*i.imgur.com/tvh8E.png @ tradus.com

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^Thanks dude! However cart2indiaonline messed up my ebay orders, thanks god it was ebay got refunds. Rather will buy from ebay at few bucks more and get a wireless logitech gaming mouse+kb combo or a samsung E2252 metro free! !Just that since deal is valid till 31st July, waiting for some nice deals to comeby or else will grab a deal!

Ok guys, screwing the wait and further boring the life out of you, ordered a sealed pack brand new lumia 800 at 18.3K (Axis CC coupon) from ebay.in. Fingers crossed, hope every thing is fit as a fiddle!

Which coupon?

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AXISEOSS01 or 02 for CC!

So how much discount do you get?

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complete 1K!

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Ok guys, surprising the hell out of me, Overnite courier delivered it straight from strife torn Assam to Delhi in flat 36 hours! Received the Lumia 800 yesterday in evening, though was too tired to unpackage, will do the same today and few impressions might as well.

Congrats for your purchase mate please do write a small review.

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Sure will otherwise what's the purpose of sharing the news

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WTF how can you be too tired to open a brand new smartphone??!! Show-off Troll

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hehehe! I've opened it and yet to post the pictures along with first impression.

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ankit360 said:
*i.imgur.com/tvh8E.png @ tradus.com

Great deal^^. It's not a bad phone at all, but it may feel limited to some extent. Like you know, no Front Facing Cam, no Micro-SD, no WP8

(). Well, it depends on the user. But my opinion would be to wait till September for a WP8 Nokia device.

NeoRoxio said:
Great deal^^. It's not a bad phone at all, but it may feel limited to some extent. Like you know, no Front Facing Cam, no Micro-SD, no WP8(). Well, it depends on the user. But my opinion would be to wait till September for a WP8 Nokia device.

why do you need to post your opinion after he's bought it? Let him enjoy

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ssk_the_gr8 said:
why do you need to post your opinion after he's bought it? Let him enjoy

Lol I didn't know he bought it. I missed it out. :lol:

Anyway congratz to the buyer. :thumbs:

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Ok guys a bad news! Bought it, opened it my 2 year old niece somehow got hold of it and bang, from first floor to tarmac. Thanks to external cover no visible dents but screen on the lower left side has got the image of shaded spilled liquid surprisingly

Submitted the mobile to Nokia Care with loads of baloney stories fed to innocuous service engineers, lets see how it all turns out! fingers crossed! wish me luck fellas

haha... this is ironic as hell... anyway hope that the damages are low on your pocket

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Why don't you simply hope that there are no damages at all?

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No idea of w7 but I have head that the newest version will be much better. For office editing buy any ios device and install documentstogo or pages+numbers. Works flawlessly. But editing docs on a small screen can be very irritating, at least I can't find < 4in screens fit for it. Why not go for Galaxy note and install a custm rom. You can get feel of various os's by modding your android. Besides, in android you can easily install cracked applications for testing, before buying. However, it is still difficult to find upto mark apps in android.

Sorry, I missed the second page.....
:-D

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Strange, just the other day I saw this.
Nokia Lumia Screen 900 Hammer Test - YouTube

Lumia 900 uses the same hardware and casing as of Lumia 800. Anyway, wish the Lumia 800 a speedy recovery.

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^ Me too baffled like anything! I perceived lumia 800 as a strong son of a B!tch! Mind you, there are no scratches on screen and frame, not even dents but then, the screen seems to have lost the rigidity and other than losing the shade on the lower left side, It was also moving a bit from lower portion whenever I swiped it....just hoping Nokia actually believes my agony!

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Ok guys, received the phone back today evening . With display issue sorted out and a good response from Nokia. So glad to have bought a real steal, touchwood! Phone is running marvellously, currently downloading apps and games!

Nokia, you rule!

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Good to know that your problem has been resolved

shashankm said:
Ok guys, received the phone back today evening . With display issue sorted out and a good response from Nokia. So glad to have bought a real steal, touchwood! Phone is running marvellously, currently downloading apps and games!

Nokia, you rule!

make sure you join us on the wp thread

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SunE said:
Good to know that your problem has been resolved

ssk_the_gr8 said:
make sure you join us on the wp thread

Sure

first impression and a brief review coming soon!