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MAC & Widows: What if ? A hypothetical question

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detoknight
detoknight Original post #1
Jun 4, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Its a known fact
-Apple's Mac Os is tied to Hardware. i.e you do not get the OS without the whole computer.(unlike windows)
-(note: this is a questionable & debatable point) Practically speaking a windows pc with the same configuration as a MAC is cheaper. (for comparisons see link1 link2. comparisons include os cost)
-The windows platform as more applications & games than the Mac platform.

Here is a hypothetical situation for you:
Assume that
1.) For some crazy reason, even Microsoft decides to marry windows to Hardware (somewhat similar to windows phone 7).
OR if u find that hard to imagine,
Apple decides to sell their OS separately, just like windows , AT THE SAME PRICE .
I find both improbable, but anyway assume.

2.) Now assume both these Windows and Mac Pc's with similar configurations
would cost the same.


3.) say, by some technological breakthrough or something, all the applications & games can be made to work on both Windows & Mac.

Now since, everything would be the same in a win & a Mac pc. EXCEPT the OS,
Here is the Question:
-Answer the poll: Which OS will you Choose & why ?
krishnandu.sarkar
Jun 4, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Mac Definately.

Much better than Windows. :)
infra_red_dude
Jun 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM
MacOSX anyday, for the simple reason that it is "UNIX" and I am a UNIX guy since a long long time.
Liverpool_fan
Jun 4, 2010 at 11:44 PM
Why a thread on assumptions?
As for me, I use Linux and continue to use it.
Krow
Krow #5
Jun 5, 2010 at 12:12 AM
I would like to assume that all applications/games can be made to work in Linux as well. Go Open Source! :D
S
Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM
Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately
Krow
Krow #7
Jun 5, 2010 at 12:16 AM
Definately.
Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely. :)

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Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately

Read the first post please. It says that you are supposed to vote on the basis of these assumptions:

Apple decides to sell their OS separately, just like windows , AT THE SAME PRICE
say, by some technological breakthrough or something, all the applications & games can be made to work on both Windows & Mac.
detoknight
Jun 5, 2010 at 12:28 AM
Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately

I agree with your last 2 points.but this is a hypothesis game.
Imagine! what i was trying to ask here is, if all the apps were say available to MACs too and if they become cheaper, would you choose it? Im just being fair to MAC here.
the major reasons macs are a minority , is the price and the availability of apps.
See, if these 2 are looked over, you can easily say which OS is better for you.
Which one would you prefer?

I personally would prefer windows too, because
-i am used to it
-people around me are used to it
-more tweaking options (not talking abt tweaking softwares here)
so
Liverpool_fan
Jun 5, 2010 at 12:39 AM
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
WTH :lol: Just because YOU can't work or train yourself with Xcode and Objective C with Cocoa framework, and are only LIMITED to .NET and WinForms does not make Windows better :lol: As for a .NET like platform there a cross platform Mono project, you can check that out if you wish to bother. :lol: Heck you can develop with Java with development environment of Eclipse or Netbeans too :lol:
You can't develop in OS X is your fault not the platform problem :lol:

Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely

How about Widows? :lol:
skeletor
skeletor #10
Jun 5, 2010 at 1:21 AM
As far as only the Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.
Apple Juice
Jun 5, 2010 at 1:28 AM
mac obviously. ;)
krates
krates #12
Jun 5, 2010 at 2:54 AM
used mac once totally blown me off.. Gonna get a macbook pro
celldweller1591
Jun 5, 2010 at 6:44 AM
Linux all the way but i surely give a try to Mac :)
krishnandu.sarkar
Jun 5, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely. :)

No no

It's absolutely ok......Thanks for correcting me :)
Liverpool_fan
Jun 5, 2010 at 11:24 AM
As far as only the Desktop Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.
Fixed. Linux/*BSD/Solaris are better Operating Systems for servers.
S
Jun 7, 2010 at 7:51 AM
WTH :lol: Just because YOU can't work or train yourself with Xcode and Objective C with Cocoa framework, and are only LIMITED to .NET and WinForms does not make Windows better :lol: As for a .NET like platform there a cross platform Mono project, you can check that out if you wish to bother. :lol: Heck you can develop with Java with development environment of Eclipse or Netbeans too :lol:
You can't develop in OS X is your fault not the platform problem :lol:


@Liverpool_fan: I was taking about Rapid Application Development not rigorous prog. with Java/Obj. C. Yes there is Mono project for open source counterpart of .NET framework but it has license and patent problems.
Check it out here *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)#Mono_and_Microsoft.E2.80.99s_patents .
RAD is necessary when you need some off track task done.

@detoknight: Well, then also I would choose Windows.
skeletor
skeletor #18
Jun 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Windows has loopholes. :p
G
Jun 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM
mac is a resource hog bloat...win is over bloatted ...though 7 is fine...linux has many distros...different package managers...though same kernel...bah ...

the main problem is there has to be platform independent application development work shud be easier....with win/mac/linux so many format...computers become complicated

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Windows has loopholes. :p

as if mac is secure...nothing is secure...even linux is hackable...but no one hacks...dont call loophole....cos security is a relative term IMO

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As far as only the Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.

dont generalise man...it depends on person to person...some say photoshop rocks on mac...some say urban terror rocks...does that mean linux for gaming:p
skeletor
skeletor #21
Jun 8, 2010 at 10:18 AM
dont generalise man...it depends on person to person...
I'm using three of them at the moment in my room on different machines. I think I'm in a little better position to comment. :p

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mac is a resource hog bloat...
It boots up in less than 10 seconds and shuts down in less than 4 seconds. :p
Liverpool_fan
Jun 8, 2010 at 12:38 PM
infra_red_dude said:
Sorry for being direct, but that statement is completely bull$hit!
It is "resource hog", "bloated" on your WALLET :p Apart from that, it is fine. :D

<offtopic>
And btw anyone used Steam and Source based games on Mac OS X? And how is ze performance?
</offtopic>

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@Liverpool_fan: I was taking about Rapid Application Development not rigorous prog. with Java/Obj. C. Yes there is Mono project for open source counterpart of .NET framework but it has license and patent problems.
Check it out here *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)#Mono_and_Microsoft.E2.80.99s_patents .
RAD is necessary when you need some off track task done.
Mono's patent problems are debatable, Ubuntu and few other distros do bundle Mono Apps, it is not entirely certain it has license and patent problems (potentially it can have and sadly that does put many people off).
And that problem of yours is related only to .NET developers not a generalising statement.
I don't imagine a problem using Eclipse/Net Beans or Xcode (OS X only) for RAD than Visual Studio. The only problem is for .NET developers since they don't get the tools they are familiar with.
G
Jun 8, 2010 at 4:44 PM
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