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Microsoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

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Maverick340
Maverick340 Original post #1
Jul 2, 2008 at 1:42 PM
One of India's 28 states plans to distribute 100,000 Linux laptops to students there. It sounds like Tamil Nadu's volume purchasing agent decided to use Linux exclusively after being put off by Microsoft's bundling tactics for academic users.
Source
victor_rambo
Jul 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

Is that over-confidence? or have then been overwhelmed because linux is free? or are the decision makes fanboys?
Linux OS does not attract viruses nor does it have security holes.
*www.elcot.in/NewStudentLaptop/index.php

BTW its gonna cost about Rs.30 K...

[Note: Please do not make transform this thread into flamewar or OS bashing thread]
lywyre
lywyre #3
Jul 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

@rohan: The source also quotes:
"ELCOT has been using SUSE Linux and Ubuntu Linux operating systems on desktop and laptop computers numbering over 2,000 during the past two years and found them far superior as compared to other operating systems, notably the Microsoft Operating System."

Also:
At the same time, ELCOT reserves the right to change its mind. "Microsoft India is yet to provide the revised offer ([of $12 per copy] for its operating system and debundling its current offer to fix the price of its office suite and anti virus software). Once we receive Microsoft's revised offer which is acceptable to ELCOT, we would get back to you with our offer for Microsoft products."

More at:*www.elcot.in/NewStudentLaptop/index.php

P.S: Maverick340, If possible change the Microsoft spelling in the title
kumarmohit
Jul 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

They are literally doing this firewalk thing! OMFG. Are they gonna trample every machine!
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

Is that over-confidence?

or have then been overwhelmed because linux is free?

or are the decision makers fanboys?
*www.elcot.in/NewStudentLaptop/index.php

And then you say:
[Note: Please do not make transform this thread into flamewar or OS bashing thread]
:lol:

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Post reported! Don't beg others to do what you can't do in the first place.:cool:
victor_rambo
Jul 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

@Cyrus, don't get hyper. My questions are valid even if it was any other OS. So stop transforming every thread to a OS flamewar. Just because I ask of someone is a fanbosy, that does not mean that I am inviting flamewars. So keep your sick flamewars and fanboyism out of this thread. Better force them on your hosting customers like you tried to do it in one in the past. :lol: they *may* oblige to you. and you may have it on your face like you had it in the past :D
MetalheadGautham
Jul 2, 2008 at 8:42 PM
they did the right thing :)
but 30k for a student lappy dat gets distributed 4 free is hyper. I would put 20k as a better number for dat.
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FilledVoid #8
Jul 2, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Is that over-confidence? or have then been overwhelmed because linux is free? or are the decision makes fanboys?


Why would you see the adoptation of Linux as over confidence? I for one welcome it due ot the fact that there are more choices available for the customer. Also SLED 10.1 which they are providing isn't actually free if I recall right.

Suse Linux Enterprise Edition 10.1 with one year free support and unlimited continuous support from ELCOT for three years. DVD media of SLED 10.1 operating system would be provided.

The one year support is like a paid thing if I recall correct. The elcot support is free though.
victor_rambo
Jul 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Why would you see the adoptation of Linux as over confidence? I for one welcome it due ot the fact that there are more choices available for the customer. Also SLED 10.1 which they are providing isn't actually free if I recall right.
I pointed out over-confidence because they said 'Linus OS has no security holes'. It was not related to the fact that are dumping MS and going for Linux.
MetalheadGautham
Jul 2, 2008 at 9:07 PM
ROFL... they expect the laptop to pass this test:
Source said:
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]In evaluating laptop hardware, ELCOT claims to have two primary tests. One is a "fire walk test" that requires laptops to survive being stood and walked upon by 175-pound people. The other -- hopefully easier to pass -- requires that they fully support Linux. [/FONT]
:lol:
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FilledVoid #11
Jul 2, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I pointed out over-confidence because they said 'Linus OS has no security holes'. It was not related to the fact that are dumping MS and going for Linux.
Oh I see. The line was kind of cryptic for me so didn;t quite understand.

ROFL... they expect the laptop to pass this test:
*www.elcot.in/NewStudentLaptop/evaluationProcess.php
CadCrazy
CadCrazy #12
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Its is a good news but soon MS will turn it into bad a news :p
RCuber
RCuber #13
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Related thread - Linux makes inroads into Microsoft's domain
NucleusKore
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:01 AM
It's fine to load Linux provided they can support it through education of students AND teachers. Else all the students will do is install a pirated Windows.
THE END
Faun
Faun #15
Jul 3, 2008 at 1:33 AM
^^lolz, end of story :(
sganesh
sganesh #16
Jul 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM
Checkt out Software bundles with Elcot Laptop,It Truely Rocks!!!:cool:
shantanu
shantanu #17
Jul 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM
thread cleaned
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FilledVoid #18
Jul 3, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Checkt out Software bundles with Elcot Laptop,It Truely Rocks!!!
Yes it does :). Also for 30 k is there a better configuration out there available that comes Pre-Installed with Linux. Please note that Acer comes with Linpus Linux which Sucks big time in my opinion. Further more its not like you get to use a Laptop which could probably bear the weight of a 90 kg dude on it :D.
MetalheadGautham
Jul 3, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Yes it does :). Also for 30 k is there a better configuration out there available that comes Pre-Installed with Linux. Please note that Acer comes with Linpus Linux which Sucks big time in my opinion. Further more its not like you get to use a Laptop which could probably bear the weight of a 90 kg dude on it :D.
you can always chuck linpus and install suse. ;)
I guess they use YOU for weight testing :lol:
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FilledVoid #20
Jul 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
you can always chuck linpus and install suse.
I guess they use YOU for weight testing

Look at the software package . Not to mention downloading that stuff would take a load of time itself. Nero Linux isn't free. To me its all about value. I see value in the package hence I wouldn't midn buying it.

Whether they use me for testing or not is not your concern. I doubt anyone is going to be sitting on their laptops. As iMav says Damned if they Do and Damned if they Don't.
MetalheadGautham
Jul 3, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Look at the software package . Not to mention downloading that stuff would take a load of time itself. Nero Linux isn't free. To me its all about value. I see value in the package hence I wouldn't midn buying it.

Whether they use me for testing or not is not your concern. I doubt anyone is going to be sitting on their laptops. As iMav says Damned if they Do and Damned if they Don't.
I know. :) Bundled software really rocks. But they still chose a somewhat heavier distro over lighter and performance ones. :( So I doubt I would get to enjoy it.

The weight test is mainly for Indian households. Here we have extremely careless people, and the neighbour's son or the pest of a cousin.
C
Jul 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Re: Miccrosoft's Tactics pushed ELCOT towards Linux

@Cyrus, don't get hyper. My questions are valid even if it was any other OS. So stop transforming every thread to a OS flamewar. Just because I ask of someone is a fanbosy, that does not mean that I am inviting flamewars. So keep your sick flamewars and fanboyism out of this thread. Better force them on your hosting customers like you tried to do it in one in the past. :lol: they *may* oblige to you. and you may have it on your face like you had it in the past :D

This is plain sick. Cyrus is in trouble only because he did not delete his posts and IMav who had started the whole thing in that thread got away with all the abusive words he had posted first, just because he deleted them after we had enough time to read it (and suffer it) when the thread was active.

FYI, I was the other one abused by iMav. So stop being one-sided and bashing Cyrus on every other post you can. :x

@Others

Sorry for taking it off-topic, but you know who started it.
Pat
Pat #23
Jul 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM
^^Dont bother buddy, he is gone for 2 weeks ;)
praka123
praka123 #24
Jul 4, 2008 at 12:19 AM
^Thank you! :) //then peace prevails!.
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FilledVoid #25
Jul 4, 2008 at 7:19 PM
I know. Bundled software really rocks. But they still chose a somewhat heavier distro over lighter and performance ones. So I doubt I would get to enjoy it.

I guess it is a bit heavy :(. But what I find appeasing is the fact that there is another vendor in the market with Linux Laptops. Now lets look at it this way. how many companies were there with Laptops with Pre-installed Linux 5 years ago? Now there are more options.

Dell - Ubuntu (Is this available in India ?)
Acer - Linpus
Elcot - SLED

In a few more years I can see every vendor giving out Linux as an alternative :). People are getting more and more educated into other platforms than one thinks. Example students in Kerala using Linux Computers, Government Officers using Linux Boxes? Now all we need is a bit more help from some proprietary software companies or alternatives to alot of the good software out there :).
praka123
praka123 #27
Jul 5, 2008 at 7:21 AM
Linpus should not be considered :twisted:
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FilledVoid #28
Jul 5, 2008 at 7:40 AM
Lol Well if thats the case then at we least have this as an option to purchase a Pre-Installed Linux Laptop.