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Mobile buying Dilemma

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Cool G5
Cool G5 Original post #1
Oct 11, 2007 at 12:18 PM
I am planning to buy Nokia 5700 in Diwali.I have a few doubts in my mind.Plz help me clear them. :)

1)The processor of 5700 has clock speed of 369mhz.I have heard on the net that it is lower some 300~330Mhz.Which is correct?

2)How much is the inbuilt ram? I am confused whether it is 64MB or 18MB?

3)I will be using Nokia 5700 mostly for Net browsing. Plz let me know does opera mini, morange, opera mobile etc work perfectly on this phone. I will be using Airtel NOP.(My current nokia 3230 does not run opera mini,morange,mig33. :) )

4)How is the camera of Nokia 5700.I have heard it is worst in low light. How can we improve it? Some hack or so would help.

5)Where can I get the best deal in Mumbai. I stay in Dadar(west).I want the whole phone within Rs.12K,preferably with a 2GB card. 1GB would also suffice.

6)Any other phones to consider?I have a budget of Rs.12K(maximum).I am looking SE W810i,Moto Rokr. It should provide good browsing & chatting experience. Music should be good.(I ain’t looking for audiophile’s grade).It should have a good Camera.

7)I have heard that SE W810i incorporates camera of SE K750i.Is this true?

8)Plz mention a few sites to modify SE phones. This will be helpful if I take W810i.

Please help me make the correct decision as I will be using this phone for a long time. :)
Also keep checking this thread. If I have further doubts then I will let u know.
alsiladka
Oct 11, 2007 at 1:43 PM
I would suggest you go for 5700 as then the whole world of Symbian softwares will open up for you.
Opera Mini, Morange, Opera Mobile will all work excellently, along with which, you will also get the S60v3 broswer, which is arguably one of the best browsers right now.

Camera is only 2MP which is not anything great, but will give satisfactory pics. I am not aware of its Low Light capabilities.

Inbuilt RAM free after boot wont be more than 20MB. It has 64MB RAM, but the OS uses up most of it. 20MB is enough for daily usage.
infra_red_dude
Oct 11, 2007 at 3:53 PM
Cool G5 said:
1)The processor of 5700 has clock speed of 369mhz.I have heard on the net that it is lower some 300~330Mhz.Which is correct?
Its an ARM11 369mhz 32bit RISC proc.

Cool G5 said:
2)How much is the inbuilt ram? I am confused whether it is 64MB or 18MB?
It has 64MB of RAM.

Cool G5 said:
3)I will be using Nokia 5700 mostly for Net browsing. Plz let me know does opera mini, morange, opera mobile etc work perfectly on this phone. I will be using Airtel NOP.(My current nokia 3230 does not run opera mini,morange,mig33. :) )
Since the main use will be net browsing I'd suggest you to go in for Symbian S60 based phone. 5700 is a good choice. The Symbian version of Opera is much better than its java counterpart. And there is no dearth of symbian s60 apps!

Cool G5 said:
4)How is the camera of Nokia 5700.I have heard it is worst in low light. How can we improve it? Some hack or so would help.
Lowlight shots are bad and there is nothing you can do about it. But for normal usage and in daylight the camera produces decent photos.

Cool G5 said:
6)Any other phones to consider?I have a budget of Rs.12K(maximum).I am looking SE W810i,Moto Rokr. It should provide good browsing & chatting experience. Music should be good.(I ain’t looking for audiophile’s grade).It should have a good Camera.
Both Moto Rokr E6 and SE W810i are great phones. You can also consider SE W610i. E6 has an edge over W810i as it runs Linux and is very much customisable in the software dept. whereas W810i/W610i haf a lot of hacks to unlock the hardware to its full potential. Among all the phones you've considered W810i/W610i haf the best music and camera capabilities. They come with a headset better than all those phones out of the box. Where they lack is on the proprietory OS front.

Cool G5 said:
7)I have heard that SE W810i incorporates camera of SE K750i.Is this true?
Its more or less the same cam, the best in the category.

Cool G5 said:
8)Plz mention a few sites to modify SE phones. This will be helpful if I take W810i.
se-nse.net, esato.com, lasky.net.... the list goes on...
Cool G5
Cool G5 #4
Oct 11, 2007 at 4:42 PM
Which phone has better camera?5700 or w810i?My secondary use will be photography.
azzu
azzu #5
Oct 11, 2007 at 4:48 PM
ok so here's ur thread Guarav
1 question y didnt ur 3230 run opera i hav 3230 running opera mobile perfectly on it
a_k_s_h_a_y
Oct 11, 2007 at 4:58 PM
se w810i is the best 2 mp cam phone

also the best music phone..

for modding se phone.. there are many

but this is where it all begins...

*forums.se-nse.net
jiteshbhimani
Oct 11, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Same here I have Nokia 3230 for 2 years now...and I am really fed up with this phone....

So I am planning to switch to Sony Ericsson.......mostly W810i...

So, SE users pls give me your views/exp.

I have budget of 10K. And mainly looking phone for MUSIC.
Pathik
Pathik #9
Oct 11, 2007 at 5:16 PM
the cam of w810i is definitely better than 5700... but overall 5700 takes the crown..
infra_red_dude
Oct 11, 2007 at 6:28 PM
pathiks said:
the cam of w810i is definitely better than 5700... but overall 5700 takes the crown..
The only reason I'd recommened Nokia 5700 is coz of Symbian S60 OS. Thats the only place where it scores over W810i/W610i, apart from 3G. If you can sacrifice that then go in for W810i. If you need A2DP then get W610i. SE Phones are Modders' delight!
Pathik
Pathik #11
Oct 11, 2007 at 7:35 PM
^^ thats cos u dont need to mod the fones in symbian fones... we hav enuf softwares to play with.. :p
also the screen reso and colors of 5700 are better than w810i...
K
krazyfrog #12
Oct 11, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Yup no doubt 5700 is better than W810i. It has bigger, higher res 24-bit display, stereo speakers, higher resolution video recording, A2DP, 3G, headset with remote control, etc. Plus it has a much better web browser. Add the fact the its a smartphone and can support symbian as well as java app and games. Also there's a limit to which you can mod a SE phone. You can't for example make it open/edit office documents, or browse web better or read pdfs, etc.
jiteshbhimani
Oct 11, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Got Sony Ericsson W810i for 10,200/-

Will get my hands on it and let u know..............

By the way I want to sale Nokia 3230 (Ahmedabad), so anyone interested, pls quote ur price.... :)
Cool G5
Cool G5 #14
Oct 11, 2007 at 10:16 PM
azzu said:
ok so here's ur thread Guarav
1 question y didnt ur 3230 run opera i hav 3230 running opera mobile perfectly on it

Whenever i run opera mini,it fails in network setup.
And Opera mobile 8.65 gives XML parsing error for most sites(Thinkdigit forum,nokia,opera forums & more).

What's the use if u can only view 2/10 sites on a google search page.
That's why i hate it. :x
infra_red_dude
Oct 11, 2007 at 11:29 PM
pathiks said:
^^ thats cos u dont need to mod the fones in symbian fones... we hav enuf softwares to play with..

krazyfrog said:
Also there's a limit to which you can mod a SE phone. You can't for example make it open/edit office documents, or browse web better or read pdfs, etc.
I'm not talking about the software here.

And there is no dearth of Symbian S60 software :)
azzu
azzu #16
Oct 12, 2007 at 12:06 PM
"What's the use if u can only view 2/10 sites on a google search page.
That's why i hate it."
i can view every site on my opera even i can log in to yahoo and check my mail
there must be sum proble with ur mobile
Cool G5
Cool G5 #17
Oct 12, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Azzu-Kya malum kya prob hai.Maine firmware bhi upgrade kiya.
Pathik
Pathik #18
Oct 12, 2007 at 5:22 PM
@cool u r using NOP.. thats the problem..
Cool G5
Cool G5 #19
Oct 12, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Pathiks-I have tried opera mini,ebuddy on mobile office & they worked flawlessly.I think 3230 has some probs with nop.Do you guys are damn sure 5700 opera mobile will not give prob on nop.I will use 5700 on nop mumbai.
Pathik
Pathik #20
Oct 13, 2007 at 11:37 AM
NOP is very unstable... works wit some fones and doesnt work wit the others...
AFAIK NOP works good with all edge enabled s60 fones good... but u shd confirm it urself..
Cool G5
Cool G5 #21
Oct 13, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Hey guys what is PNG Encode/decode???
Pathik
Pathik #22
Oct 13, 2007 at 10:58 PM
Some image decoding benchmark...
btw wat was ur overall spmark score?
Cool G5
Cool G5 #23
Oct 18, 2007 at 9:44 AM
@pathiks-I took it from softpedia review.I meant what is PNG?
Here are some more test results.

Also guys new queries:

9)How much card it supports? 2GB or 4GB? I have read in pdf downloaded from nokia site it supports 2GB & phone’s brochure says that it supports maximum 4GB. But reviewers say it supports only 2GB. I have also heard on net that nokia 5700 has to hardware support 4GB, but officially nokia has only said 2GB. Which is correct? Give me your experiences.

10)Nokia has also launched Nokia 5700 transformers edition. Is it available in India?

11)I read today in newspaper about n73 being offered at Rs.13,399.What do you think should i wait a little & get it.

Keep your response flowing, i am listening.
GeekyBoy
GeekyBoy #24
Oct 18, 2007 at 9:51 AM
How is the Nokia 5300 XpressMusic ?
alsiladka
alsiladka #25
Oct 18, 2007 at 10:25 AM
GeekyBoy said:
How is the Nokia 5300 XpressMusic ?
Dont go for it. Its a S40 phone. Instead go for the 5700.

@Cool G5
Nokia has released new firmwares for all the major Nseries phones to enable support for the 4GB card. If 5700 does not support as of now, i think we could see the support added in a new firmware version soon.

No reason why it should not be available in India. Try out the Essar Mobile Store or any major store in your city and ask them only.

How much are you getting 5700 for and what card are you getting along with both the phones? Between 5700 and N73, except for camera and some special treatment from Nokia, i would be inclined towards 5700 for the S603 FP1 and the 16M color screen. Otherwise N73, featurewise, is better.
Cool G5
Cool G5 #26
Oct 18, 2007 at 1:43 PM
My one colleague has a mobile shop & he told me that he will give me Nokia 5700 for Rs.9000 including bill+1GB card.
I don't know about other accessories.I got to ask him.
What do you think? It sure looks a tempting deal. :)
azzu
azzu #27
Oct 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM
man N73 me prices slashed to 13900
koool

go for n73me
Pathik
Pathik #28
Oct 19, 2007 at 7:45 PM
5700 prices bhi slash hoga... wait for diwali season..
dreamcatcher
Oct 19, 2007 at 7:59 PM
but dude..i hav my doubts with the 5700..i own this thing..and trust me..pathetic battery life and very low speakers..as an s60 phn..simply awesum...
Cool G5
Cool G5 #30
Oct 20, 2007 at 8:03 PM
What to do about the edit(pencil) button?? Nokia 5700 doesn't have it.
Also is 5710 symbian or s40????
devilzdad
devilzdad #31
Oct 22, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Cool G5 said:
My one colleague has a mobile shop & he told me that he will give me Nokia 5700 for Rs.9000 including bill+1GB card.
I don't know about other accessories.I got to ask him.
What do you think? It sure looks a tempting deal. :)

wat abt the cost of 5700 in other shops..... i think its around 12K....rite???
azzu
azzu #32
Oct 22, 2007 at 11:02 AM
the pencil button is for selecting or marking several files by holding it and scrolling the images or files
for me it doesnt matter
Cool G5
Cool G5 #33
Oct 23, 2007 at 11:25 AM
azzu said:
the pencil button is for selecting or marking several files by holding it and scrolling the images or files
for me it doesnt matter

I mean does the absense of the pencil key affect the phone ability to copy/paste,mark multiple files??
I know files can also be marked from menu.

What about the copy/pasting text???
Is it possible on nokia 5700?
azzu
azzu #34
Oct 23, 2007 at 11:51 AM
it wont much
as i use sony i dont feel its too necessary for us
Ankur Gupta
Oct 23, 2007 at 12:39 PM
It wont affect you if you havent used it but if you are a regular user of pencil key like me then you will find it hell not to have it :)
Cool G5
Cool G5 #36
Oct 23, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Is there any menu or some way to select text??
I need it quite a times.
azzu
azzu #37
Oct 23, 2007 at 10:12 PM
yup in menu mark and mark several options
Cool G5
Cool G5 #38
Oct 24, 2007 at 10:39 AM
azzu said:
yup in menu mark and mark several options

Not that. I mean to select text for eg from message & paste it in opera or another app like notes. I did not mean mark file.
K
krazyfrog #39
Oct 24, 2007 at 11:59 AM
The Edit key is gone but the functionality remains. I don't know exactly but Nokia has assigned the Edit key's functionality to some other key that only appears in the required situation. This way they reduced the number of keys on the phone while keeping the functionality intact. You can ask someone who owns the phone about it or download the pdf version of its user guide (if its available) to confirm.
Cool G5
Cool G5 #40
Oct 24, 2007 at 5:03 PM
I downloaded the pdf already,it doesn't say anything about the edit key.
Also none of my friend own a 5700. :(
Cool G5
Cool G5 #41
Nov 1, 2007 at 10:43 PM
Finally Diwali is at the corner. :) So buying time.
Just let me know the foll:
5)Where can I get the best deal in Mumbai. I stay in Dadar(west).I want the whole phone within Rs.12K,preferably with a 2GB card. 1GB would also suffice.
Pathik
Pathik #42
Nov 1, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Alfa, Vijay Sales
dreamcatcher
Nov 2, 2007 at 6:59 PM
dude the 5610 is out..try tht...and also tr the se cybershot series...there are some mod firmwares...it shall better ur cell netime if u want pure camera and muzic glory..
Cool G5
Cool G5 #44
Nov 2, 2007 at 7:16 PM
^I want net+cam+symbain.
So can't think upon your suggestions sorry.
Thanks for the reply though. :)
D
Nov 3, 2007 at 1:37 PM
SE W810i at Rs.8995/- *shopping.sify.com/Offer_Of_the_Day/Sony_Ericsson_W810i-_item_13168167_13174928__14236740.html
azzu
azzu #46
Nov 3, 2007 at 3:51 PM
^^ Sorry Deepak
i think Cool_g5 is Choosed to go for 5700 right ??
and wont change his mind ??
choudang
choudang #47
Nov 3, 2007 at 4:57 PM
yes... i think so....

but always keep i mind that symb phones are most delightable for virus... SE got this ad'tage over nokia. net/cam/music == w910i (edge+3g)
D
Nov 3, 2007 at 5:39 PM
azzu said:
^^ Sorry Deepak
i think Cool_g5 is Choosed to go for 5700 right ??
and wont change his mind ??

Didn't want to open a new thread. Had to post this news somewhere. So chose this one.. Then posted on the sticky latest cell phone prices thread itself.. :)
Cool G5
Cool G5 #49
Nov 3, 2007 at 5:44 PM
^ur point noted. @azzu - The confusion isn't over about symbain or java. @everyone- Due to private problem i wont be upgrading my cell this diwali.Maybe next year or dec,let's see till then what is the state of mobile market.
azzu
azzu #50
Nov 3, 2007 at 5:53 PM
^^ koool