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I am looking for mobile as my dad's birthday gift and so need your help...

1. Budget: 25k
2. Display type and size: Size - preferred around 5". Type: not particular
3. Dual sim: Not needed
4. Preferred choice of brand: Samsung, Sony, Asus, LG, HTC
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera): Flash and front camera is a must.
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc): Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready): 3G is required. 4G will be welcome.
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc): Multimedia and internet is gonna be used maximum. Games will be minimum.
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration: Samsung A5, HTC Desire 826, Asus ZenPhone 2 (will wait for its release)
10. Any other info that you want to share: I was bent towards Sony but I am not sure about Sony's mobile division future and so little reluctant. I am not sure about Asus's and HTC after-sale-service. Samsung has service center bang in front of my house but Samsung's quality is doubtful. Also I will not be going for Chinese brands (Xiomi, oneplus etc..).

I will be purchasing the phone by 23rd April so please help me out.

Wait for zenfone 2.

K

The exact phone for your needs is the HTC Desire 820!!! Its perfect for you!!

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SaiyanGoku said:
Wait for zenfone 2.

kkn13 said:
The exact phone for your needs is the HTC Desire 820!!! Its perfect for you!!

Just saw that both these phones have 5.5" screen which is a bit larger than what my dad will be comfortable with. Any suggestions for 5" screen?

You can start with these: Phone Finder results - GSMArena.com

You can refine it further to suit your requirement.

Samsung A5
Looks nice
Feels good
Light weight slim phone

Galaxy S5.

Done.

If you want a good design Samsung phone, get Alpha.... Just check it out. It has an average battery life, which should be sufficient for your dad and should last 1- 1.5 days(considering he doesn't browse internet via data pack for 2-3hr daily)

Other options: Huawei Honor 6 & LG G2(32GB version available @ flipkart for 23k)
G2 is a great device, even though it has 5.2" display but it has slim bezels.....
Huawei Honor 6 H60-L04 vs LG G2 D802T vs Lenovo Vibe X2 4G vs Samsung Galaxy Alpha: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com

Size comparison
Visual Phone Size Comparison

Also if someone says that Touchwiz lags, don't worry Lollipop will make it much faster (it isn't that laggy in 4.4 too)

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monkey said:
Just saw that both these phones have 5.5" screen which is a bit larger than what my dad will be comfortable with. Any suggestions for 5" screen?

Zenphone 2 will be released in 5 inch version too.

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monkey said:
Just saw that both these phones have 5.5" screen which is a bit larger than what my dad will be comfortable with. Any suggestions for 5" screen?

since its for your dad,check out Lumia 640 and Lumia 730 as well
really vfm and well made phones and windows phone is easier for older people to operate as well

if you are insistent on android,theres also the Samsung Galaxy S4 but im not a big fan of samsung,their after sales is poor,the display and camera is oversaturated and touchwiz will bog down after a while

id still say get the Desire 820 or one of the lumias even if display is a bit larger

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Asus Zenfone 2 is also pretty good
after sales is decent as well,wayy better than samsung and sony for sure

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anupam_pb said:
Also if someone says that Touchwiz lags, don't worry Lollipop will make it much faster (it isn't that laggy in 4.4 too)

This I wouldnt agree with
my aunt bought an S4 even though I warned her,she naturally assumed an older flagship for 17k sounded great but touchwiz on 4.4 lags like crazy after 2 weeks
I will however say this,Touchwiz on Lollipop is faster than stock android 5.1 since you can disable the forced encryption on touchwiz but not on stock android 5.1
either way,it would be wrong to say touchwiz or lollipop doesnt lag

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jackal_79 said:
You can start with these: Phone Finder results - GSMArena.com

You can refine it further to suit your requirement.

I will only get the list of phones based on specification but not on user experience. I have done it but it will take me days before I can decide using the list.

chitvan said:
Samsung A5
Looks nice
Feels good
Light weight slim phone

I have seen it and found it to be good. I have shortlisted it.

ithehappy said:
Galaxy S5.

Done.

I have considered it too but most reviews are negative. Maybe it was because of starting asking price of 40k. Price of 26k is more justified I think.

anupam_pb said:
If you want a good design Samsung phone, get Alpha.... Just check it out. It has an average battery life, which should be sufficient for your dad and should last 1- 1.5 days(considering he doesn't browse internet via data pack for 2-3hr daily)

Other options: Huawei Honor 6 & LG G2(32GB version available @ flipkart for 23k)
G2 is a great device, even though it has 5.2" display but it has slim bezels.....
Huawei Honor 6 H60-L04 vs LG G2 D802T vs Lenovo Vibe X2 4G vs Samsung Galaxy Alpha: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com

Size comparison
Visual Phone Size Comparison

Also if someone says that Touchwiz lags, don't worry Lollipop will make it much faster (it isn't that laggy in 4.4 too)

Galaxy Alpha seems expensive for what it offers. LG G2 is good but is now 2 generation old (with G4's launch). I don't know what support will receive in the near future. Also G2 might face further rate cut with launch of G4 later this month so buying it now may not be the best option. Also I am not opting for the Chinese brands

Minion said:
Zenphone 2 will be released in 5 inch version too.

Where did you get this info from? Asus is advertising it as 5.5" on Flipkart.

kkn13 said:
since its for your dad,check out Lumia 640 and Lumia 730 as well
really vfm and well made phones and windows phone is easier for older people to operate as well

if you are insistent on android,theres also the Samsung Galaxy S4 but im not a big fan of samsung,their after sales is poor,the display and camera is oversaturated and touchwiz will bog down after a while

id still say get the Desire 820 or one of the lumias even if display is a bit larger

I don't think my dad will appreciate learning new OS at the age of 70. Android is a safer bet as he has been using it for the past 5 years.

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Asus Zenfone 2 is also pretty good
after sales is decent as well,wayy better than samsung and sony for sure

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This I wouldnt agree with
my aunt bought an S4 even though I warned her,she naturally assumed an older flagship for 17k sounded great but touchwiz on 4.4 lags like crazy after 2 weeks
I will however say this,Touchwiz on Lollipop is faster than stock android 5.1 since you can disable the forced encryption on touchwiz but not on stock android 5.1
either way,it would be wrong to say touchwiz or lollipop doesnt lag[/QUOTE]

There will also a 5 inch zenphone 2 but it's availability in India is still in question.

monkey said:
I have considered it too but most reviews are negative. Maybe it was because of starting asking price of 40k. Price of 26k is more justified I think.

The only places where you should read reviews from are Anand and GSMArena, period. If you have read reviews on Flipkart then read them if you want to see a movie, a dumb movie, but don't have one. Those are renowned and establish trolls, most of them don't even have the phone, they just see the specification and have absolutely no life, so let's go Flipkart and write whatever the moods tell. A lot of them are existing here, in this very forum, those who often in Xiaomi and OneMinus One topics :lol:

Anyway, for 30k S5 is a worthy buy, even at 35k it is a worthy buy, and that's that. If someone's IQ is below 40 then he/she definitely wouldn't understand that launching price will always be higher, for anything.

I however am not a fan of S series, I chose Note 3 over S5, because of 1 gig extra RAM and a much larger screen and the S-Pen obviously.

In any case, at that budget S5 should be your pick. If not, then try to give a look at HTC E8.

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Just saw the specs of Zenfone 2 which looks good. But providing all this at Rs. 15k is baffling. There must have been compromises made at many places. Is it worth waiting till May 4 for its delivery date?

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Just noticed - faster Z3580 processor + 4GB RAM version is not yet launched. What a waste!!!!

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monkey said:
Just saw the specs of Zenfone 2 which looks good. But providing all this at Rs. 15k is baffling. There must have been compromises made at many places. Is it worth waiting till May 4 for its delivery date?

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Just noticed - faster Z3580 processor + 4GB RAM version is not yet launched. What a waste!!!!

Gifting your dad a zenphone??
Think again buddy.
Give him a brand like Samsung, Sony or iPhone. Don't even consider anything else. Teenagers really don't mind much as they get good specs for lower price. But, for people like dad, mom etc. Give them a brand. Remember that at there age money is not a issue. Also, there own friends and relatives too would be well off and must be flaunting pricey phones.

At the purpose and price range you mentioned, you must stay clear of zenphone, lava micromax etc. Even if you get lesser specs from a brand mobile. Choose that for your dad.

As for the choicesTake a look at Sony z3 and z1 compact too. Else look at Samsung choices as mentioned before. If you can increase your budget than iPhone 5s too is a good choice.

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REDHOTIRON2004 said:
Gifting your dad a zenphone??
Think again buddy.
Give him a brand like Samsung, Sony or iPhone. Don't even consider anything else. Teenagers really don't mind much as they get good specs for lower price. But, for people like dad, mom etc. Give them a brand. Remember that at there age money is not a issue. Also, there own friends and relatives too would be well off and must be flaunting pricey phones.

At the purpose and price range you mentioned, you must stay clear of zenphone, lava micromax etc. Even if you get lesser specs from a brand mobile. Choose that for your dad.

As for the choicesTake a look at Sony z3 and z1 compact too. Else look at Samsung choices as mentioned before. If you can increase your budget than iPhone 5s too is a good choice.

Minion said:
^

I would rather get him to a store and let him try my best selection.

My father liked my iP5 a lot.
But considering his requirement of Google Earth like software I chose Moto X for him.

Before that I took him to store and showed him z1 c , s4, etc.

After 1 and half year he is quite elated with the purchase.

It's not important how society thinks of your phone: It's just that how comfortable you are with it.

His friend's circle has iphones,etc.
But his Moto is way too superior because I have basically automated it.

Arrive at home and Switch off Data,Switch on Wifi

In a business meeting Moto Assist silences it.

While on bike handsfree is automatically activated

Battery less than 30% allow only calls.

Came to see a plot, get a aerial view from Google Earth.

Smartphones is to make our life simple.
I just did that for him.

kunalgujarathi said:
I would rather get him to a store and let him try my best selection.

My father liked my iP5 a lot.
But considering his requirement of Google Earth like software I chose Moto X for him.

Before that I took him to store and showed him z1 c , s4, etc.

After 1 and half year he is quite elated with the purchase.

It's not important how society thinks of your phone: It's just that how comfortable you are with it.

His friend's circle has iphones,etc.
But his Moto is way too superior because I have basically automated it.

Arrive at home and Switch off Data,Switch on Wifi

In a business meeting Moto Assist silences it.

While on bike handsfree is automatically activated

Battery less than 30% allow only calls.

Came to see a plot, get a aerial view from Google Earth.

Smartphones is to make our life simple.
I just did that for him.

I agree with you...
iPhones just have a good design & a high price tag...... They are just good for flaunting..... Get an android, get better usability & also save some money

Good buy BTW

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anupam_pb said:
I agree with you...
iPhones just have a good design & a high price tag...... They are just good for flaunting..... Get an android, get better usability & also save some money

Good buy BTW

Well, I have already said that I am going for Android. iPhone was never my consideration.

Anyways, there were some suggestions about going for Zenfone 2 while later discussions are suggesting against it. So I think HTC desire 826 and Samsung Galaxy Alpha/A5 are shortlisted. But still I have decided to wait for delivery of Zenfone 2 to begin. A phone with 5.5" screen in regular 5" screen body looks tempting. Other specs are good too so I think it should be worth a wait.

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anupam_pb said:
I agree with you...
iPhones just have a good design & a high price tag...... They are just good for flaunting..... Get an android, get better usability & also save some money

Good buy BTW

arguable
My dad has a Nexus 5 as well as his 2nd phone
most unreliable phone ever!! he has faced soo many bugs with each update
once it got bricked,once it couldnt reload contacts and i was forced to reflash it
ive had the same issues on my own Nexus 5 and 7 as well

android is unreliable,i have a Z10,Lumia 720 and 820 as well and none of them have faced soo many issues as the 2 Nexus 5's in my house
iphones also are much more reliable and peace of mind in comparison,im not saying its perfect but theres more peace of mind and consistency compared to android

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monkey said:
Well, I have already said that I am going for Android. iPhone was never my consideration.

Anyways, there were some suggestions about going for Zenfone 2 while later discussions are suggesting against it. So I think HTC desire 826 and Samsung Galaxy Alpha/A5 are shortlisted. But still I have decided to wait for delivery of Zenfone 2 to begin. A phone with 5.5" screen in regular 5" screen body looks tempting. Other specs are good too so I think it should be worth a wait.

stick to Zenfone 2 and HTC Desire 826
dont get samsung,youll regret it trust me,touchwiz is really bad

More you stay here more nonsensical stuffs will mess in your head, usually.

Get the ZenFone 2 and save money. Or the Desire 826 if you are into HTC. Or get the S5, simple. If you get the first, always remember you bought an Orange, while you had the money to buy an Apple (the fruit, not the other ****), which is the last. The one in between falls nowhere exactly, but still worth a shot.

kkn13 said:
stick to Zenfone 2 and HTC Desire 826
dont get samsung,youll regret it trust me,touchwiz is really bad

Touchwiz was never bad, according to me, just lags a bit........ After lollipop update, touchwiz is very smooth, no more lags

@OP, you're asking for phone recommendation and not fruits right? Phones aren't like Pineapple, Lemon, etc.? :lol:

Though S5's Snapdragon version is worth 22k, it isn't available at that price. Anything is better than Crapwiz or MIUI. Just get the 4 GB ram version of Zenfone 2. Even the 2 GB ram version would do.

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anupam_pb said:
Touchwiz was never bad, according to me, just lags a bit........ After lollipop update, touchwiz is very smooth, no more lags

touchwiz has always been bad,slows down pretty bad
the only good things about touchwiz is that it looks better than stock android UI,has an option to disable the forced encryption in lollipop unlike stock android which doesnt let you stop it
still Touchwiz is not recommended and is certified lag within 2 weeks of use

Asus Zenfone 2 4GB RAM & 64GB ROM -19,999.

Currently out of stock in Flipkart. Wait till restocked and buy it since it is the best smartphone till date.

*i.imgur.com/dXqlVk6.png

*i.imgur.com/MPI6h77.png

Source: gsmarena.com

bssunil said:
Asus Zenfone 2 4GB RAM & 64GB ROM -19,999.

Currently out of stock in Flipkart. Wait till restocked and buy it since it is the best smartphone till date.

*i.imgur.com/dXqlVk6.png

*i.imgur.com/MPI6h77.png

Source: gsmarena.com

I'm too waiting for this

Not sure about the camera though...

krishnendu said:
I'm too waiting for this Not sure about the camera though...

it is average.

SaiyanGoku said:
@OP, you're asking for phone recommendation and not fruits right? Phones aren't like Pineapple, Lemon, etc.?
Though S5's Snapdragon version is worth 22k, it isn't available at that price. Anything is better than Crapwiz or MIUI. Just get the 4 GB ram version of Zenfone 2. Even the 2 GB ram version would do.

There is something called brand value, so you can't expect big companies like Samsung, Sony, HTC to sell phones at price which Oneplus or Xiaomi will..... These companies have to maintain their large number of service centres, showrooms, ads too.... So they charge higher

You can easily find a samsung smartphone cafe in any city where you can check out their phones, but can you check out Oneplus or ASUS anywhere???
There is a big problem with Zenfone 2's design, power button is located at the top, which isn't a great idea considering a 5.5" device... These minute details matters to general public..... I would like to check a phone physically before buying, many people would, actually due to this reason many people don't buy phones online (same applies for laptops too)

Believe it or not among general public, they will prefer Samsung or other big company phone when spending above 20k.... People like my dad, your dad won't like to take risk in buying a phone from lesser known company

As far as S5 is concerned, no phone can match its display or camera quality in the 26k price point(Exynos version just lacks 4G, its performance is good enough, not like Exynos of Note 3, which was really crap compared to Snapdragon one)

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krishnendu said:
I'm too waiting for this Not sure about the camera though...

You can't get best of everything, considering its price but still a great phone indeed

$hadow said:
it is average.

anupam_pb said:
You can't get best of everything, considering its price but still a great phone indeed

Not expecting too much when I'm getting very good spec in 20k

Decent photo capturing will do..

krishnendu said:
Not expecting too much when I'm getting very good spec in 20k Decent photo capturing will do..

Yeah, thats why I bought N4 2 years ago, satisfied with it except for its battery life, changed its battery recently, still managing somehow

krishnendu said:
Not expecting too much when I'm getting very good spec in 20k Decent photo capturing will do..

If so is the case check out lumia 640 being sold for 10k and it will kickass any of the budget sector camera.

$hadow said:
If so is the case check out lumia 640 being sold for 10k and it will kickass any of the budget sector camera.

I've decided to go for android instead, please don't make me confused again mate :lol:

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krishnendu said:
Not expecting too much when I'm getting very good spec in 20k Decent photo capturing will do..

its snapper is pretty decent,atleast on paper
coming from someone who owns a nexus 5,Lumia 720 and 820 and a 1200D
i can safely bet its snapper is one of the better cameras in the android world
dont expect miracles like the Pureview,Zeiss or Exmor based camera phones but its no slouch at all

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krishnendu said:
I've decided to go for android instead, please don't make me confused again mate

I will agree with shadow for this,Camera and Battery is much better and the UI might be easier for your dad to operate
But if he needs/is familiar with android or something,Zenfone 2 is a no brainer and is an awesome phone as well

kkn13 said:
I will agree with shadow for this,Camera and Battery is much better and the UI might be easier for your dad to operate
But if he needs/is familiar with android or something,Zenfone 2 is a no brainer and is an awesome phone as well

I'm not the OP, I'm not buying for my dad, It's for my own use. Nevertheless thanks for your info...

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krishnendu said:
I'm not the OP, I'm not buying for my dad, It's for my own use. Nevertheless thanks for your info...

oh my bad,I thought you were the OP

either way,its purely on requirements,both options are great but are for different sets of people
theres no one phone to rule them all,though Zenfone 2 is close enough

anupam_pb said:
There is something called brand value, so you can't expect big companies like Samsung, Sony, HTC to sell phones at price which Oneplus or Xiaomi will..... These companies have to maintain their large number of service centres, showrooms, ads too.... So they charge higher

What's brand value? There is no such thing as brand value. A phone's price should remain same for six months, and if a phone is 10k after six months of its release then it should launch at that price.

How long does it take to know minimal Economics anyway? Oh wait, you gotta have at least 40 IQ, I suppose.

:lol:

anupam_pb said:
There is something called brand value, so you can't expect big companies like Samsung, Sony, HTC to sell phones at price which Oneplus or Xiaomi will..... These companies have to maintain their large number of service centres, showrooms, ads too.... So they charge higher

I don't have problem with them charging higher but I don't want to be ripped off and let these OEMs fill their bank accounts. Look at Moto, good OEM with better pricing than LG, samsung, htc or sony. Nobody asked them to produce more ads, they do it out of their own reasons and want the people to pay for their crap ads?

anupam_pb said:
You can easily find a samsung smartphone cafe in any city where you can check out their phones, but can you check out Oneplus or ASUS anywhere???
There is a big problem with Zenfone 2's design, power button is located at the top, which isn't a great idea considering a 5.5" device... These minute details matters to general public..... I would like to check a phone physically before buying, many people would, actually due to this reason many people don't buy phones online (same applies for laptops too)

Though I can't find them locally, GSM Arena does the job well for me. If I like the phone on the PC screen, I'll like it on my hands.

anupam_pb said:
Believe it or not among general public, they will prefer Samsung or other big company phone when spending above 20k.... People like my dad, your dad won't like to take risk in buying a phone from lesser known company

My dad wanted to buy an iphone 5 for simple tasks like calling, browsing, emails and whatsapp. I got him a Redmi 1s, flashed Paranoid Android on it and said to him "if you don't like the phone in 15 days of usage, we can just return it". It was a gamble which paid off. Now he can just copy paste any file from his laptop using ES File Explorer on WiFi, connect to the NAS HDD for music using the same, stream videos/pics from his phone to the TV while getting 1-1.5 days of easy battery life.

I know all this can be done using any standard android phone now a days. My point is don't buy overpriced phones.

krishnendu said:
I've decided to go for android instead, please don't make me confused again mate

I am just trying to show you another option in which you may and may not be interested.

ithehappy said:
What's brand value? There is no such thing as brand value. A phone's price should remain same for six months, and if a phone is 10k after six months of its release then it should launch at that price.

How long does it take to know minimal Economics anyway? Oh wait, you gotta have at least 40 IQ, I suppose.

There is something called brand value...... Just get out of the internet & find out.........

Apple is considered to have best brand value(you can call it resale value too, i hate Apple though)
Xiaomi n all have low brand/resale value......

Many in general public still don't know about Xiaomi n Oneplus, so if you go to sell a galaxy E7 n Oneplus one, you will get more money for E7, because its Samsung...... People consider it a big name, so good, better phone.. (not everyone is a geek)

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anupam_pb said:
There is something called brand value...... Just get out of the internet & find out.........

Apple is considered to have best brand value(you can call it resale value too, i hate Apple though)
Xiaomi n all have low brand/resale value......

Many in general public still don't know about Xiaomi n Oneplus, so if you go to sell a galaxy E7 n Oneplus one, you will get more money for E7, because its Samsung...... People consider it a big name, so good, better phone.. (not everyone is a geek)

you are kind of right about Apples resale value,my cousin managed to sell a beat-up iphone 5S for 15k 1-2 months ago
cant say the same for samsung,samsung resale is rather poor as they come up with "new" phones every 1-2 months or atleast variants(grand series and duos series were notorious for newer variants nearly every month)
Nokia/Microsoft has good resale as well,I sold my 6-month old broken 720 (black one,not my red one) in 2014 for 10k even though it was selling for 17k in the market despite the broken display and scratches etc

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Brand value does matter but so does functionality,looks,after sales etc
Asus is a good brand for all this so far

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SaiyanGoku said:
My dad wanted to buy an iphone 5 for simple tasks like calling, browsing, emails and whatsapp. I got him a Redmi 1s, flashed Paranoid Android on it and said to him "if you don't like the phone in 15 days of usage, we can just return it". It was a gamble which paid off. Now he can just copy paste any file from his laptop using ES File Explorer on WiFi, connect to the NAS HDD for music using the same, stream videos/pics from his phone to the TV while getting 1-1.5 days of easy battery life.

I know all this can be done using any standard android phone now a days. My point is don't buy overpriced phones.

This!! this is exactly how it should be
Theres no "one phone for all" but choice to freely switch to one which suits you is what matters
These days I just see people buying samsung or iphones just because everyone else has them

I have 2 other friends who have complete samsung and apple ecosystems because they actually LIKE the product not because everyone else has them(a growing trend in both older people and teens these days)

I will say this though,generally ios,WP or even Touchwiz and more recently MIUI are really good for older people to adapt to(putting all other pros and cons aside)

I know for a fact that my grandad and dad both were very very unhappy with android on their Moto E and Nexus 5 respectively.Got them both a Lumia phone each(535 and 730),they both were very much happier with them (though my dad still has his nexus 5 for android specific apps-work related and as a backup phone)

Even my dad likes Touchwiz of his S2 (running 4.1) than stock android kitkat (he hasn't used my phone with Lollipop)

I personally also feel that custom android skins are worth a bit extra money. For my next phone, i will not buy a Nexus or Motorola (even if a Nexus 5 2nd gen launches)

For myself, brand value matters a bit, because I'm spending 25k or so..... I don't know how much will my Nexus 4 will fetch if I sell it (its 2yrs old)

If i'm suggesting phone for an elderly person like my dad or uncle, I will stay away from Xiaomi or Oneplus, if spending around 20k or more, even if it means getting a bit inferior specs, as for them reliability is what matters the most(so a good brand is necessary)

anupam_pb said:
There is something called brand value...... Just get out of the internet & find out.........

Oh dear God! You really don't get sarcasm do you?

Anyway, as I have created that earlier topic in Chit-Chat section, I guess [STRIKE]people[/STRIKE] the kids and the cheap arse kind have forgotten about it. The OP is nowhere to be seen.

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I have been waiting to get first hand reviews for Asus Zenfone 2 before placing the order. However today when I decided to go for Asus I got offer for Moto Turbo 64GB for 32k. Earlier it was for 42k and out of my budget but now it looks tempting. Should I have a second look?

monkey said:
I have been waiting to get first hand reviews for Asus Zenfone 2 before placing the order. However today when I decided to go for Asus I got offer for Moto Turbo 64GB for 32k. Earlier it was for 42k and out of my budget but now it looks tempting. Should I have a second look?

Turbo is a rock solid phone. If your budget permits just go for it.

M

And now Samsung has jumped in with 23k offer for Galaxy S5...

Why is it becoming so difficult to choose a phone?????

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monkey said:
And now Samsung has jumped in with 23k offer for Galaxy S5...

Why is it becoming so difficult to choose a phone?????

Except for camera OPO >>>>> S5(Exynos ver)

K

^^ Camera of OPO(Sony Exmor sensor) is much better than samsungs offerings
photos on samsung are oversaturated and colour reproduction is poor and unnatural