Mobile phone (30k) · DIGIT-ARC

1. Budget? 30k
2. Display type and size? Any
3. Form Factor? bar, slider, flip? Bar
4. Preferred choice of brand? None (ass should be good)
5. Preferred input method (QWERTY, touchscreen, numpad, touch-n-type). Touch
6. What camera option you want? Please specify need for flash, autofocus, front facing camera. No preference
7. Preferred operating system? (Android, Symbian, iOS, Windows Phone etc). Android
8. Preferred connectivity options (3G, Wifi etc)Please specify clearly. 3g and wifi
10. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, mails, internet, gaming etc)? Mails, internet.
11. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? Oppo find 5, nexus 4, S3
12. Any other info that you want to share
The device is for my dad, he is going to use it to check mails and browse the Internet for the most part.
Oppo find 5 is a really good phone imo thinking of buying it. If you guys have any suggestions please let me know.

I'd strictly recommend a WP8 Phone only if your Dad won't be downloading tons of Apps. For basic tasks like Mails, Web Browsing WP8 is more then enough & the Battery Life will be better then Android Phones.

It wouldn't be future proof, there are not many app for it. With android he'll have a good choice. Also why buy a windows 8 when you can get a good Android?

Nexus 4

No other phone is future proof than this beast in that price range.

RohanM said:
Nexus 4
No other phone is future proof than this beast in that price range.

Even I thought so at first but it has just 1gb ram also the camera is below average.

C

It has 2gb ram if you want better cam go for xperia zl.

rohanz said:
Even I thought so at first but it has just 1gb ram also the camera is below average.

I won't recommend Nexus 4 for your dad. Below 30k options are S3 & One X+. Better get Xperia ZL, you can find it for 31-32k. Check this
It has manufacturer warranty

cooldude94 said:
It has 2gb ram if you want better cam go for xperia zl.

My bad in confused it with S3.
I am not considering zl as it is not a flag ship so the updates might stop aftet an year or so.

^^ then go for LG optimus G but still nothing can beat Nexus 4 in it's price range & nothing means nothing !! :thumbs:

Xperia ZL is a good option, try finding a good deal for Note 2, you may get it for around 31-32k

Nexus 4 is best for that bugdet.

rohanz said:
My bad in confused it with S3.
I am not considering zl as it is not a flag ship so the updates might stop aftet an year or so.

Sony is not good in providing updates....that's true. Samsung is best after Google. My S2(launched with 2.3) has 4.1 update & Samsung also promised 4.2 update(last for it). S3 will get the next update too.

If updates are concerned, get S3 or Nexus 4

anupam_pb said:
Sony is not good in providing updates....that's true. Samsung is best after Google. My S2(launched with 2.3) has 4.1 update & Samsung also promised 4.2 update(last for it). S3 will get the next update too.

If updates are concerned, get S3 or Nexus 4

Oppo has updates every 2 weeks. Also it is their flagship phone.

Go for ZL i know sony is not good at faster updates but it provide stable updates than samsung atleast where samsung's updates are mostly buggy. If you worried about updates only then u can always go for root and there are plenty dev support for zl. Or you can go for nexus 4 if you want direct updates from google.

K

The only defect I saw in nexus 4 is it's camera..... BTW it's not that bad.. At 25k is best phone or zl .... Don't buy s3.. it's looks are s similar to grand..

The only defect I saw in nexus 4 is it's camera..... BTW it's not that bad.. At 25k is best phone or zl .... Don't buy s3.. it's looks are s similar to grand..

Not considering nexus 4 because of the bad battery life, display and back glass.
Confused between oppo find 5 and xperia zl
Oppo has a better screen, better battery, better sound, better dev support(faux making kernell for stock ROM) and a good after sales support(updates).
Xperia has a better camera, brand value and a sd card slot.
I would root it and put a custom ROM (Which it doesn't have many)on ZL if I was buying it for me. It is for my dad so I would want it to be rock stable.
Note is just too big(also bad screen) and Optimus G, well is by LG. I have an Optimus 2X so I wouldn't recommend anyone getting a LG phone if you are not comfortable with flashing custom ROMs.
PS : *thedroideffect.com/goodbye-nexus-4-hello-oppo-find-5/

Oppo Find 5 :agreed:

BTW where will you find Oppo Find 5 ???

anupam_pb said:
BTW where will you find Oppo Find 5 ???

Oppostyle.Com

rohanz said:
It wouldn't be future proof, there are not many app for it. With android he'll have a good choice. Also why buy a windows 8 when you can get a good Android?

WP got almost all apps his dad may use and as it's his dad (i.e. no time to screw around with device). He may want a device to come with everything to be ready for his order (not in the case of N4 as it runs all stock) .
It's just our (Geek's) mentality that Android > WP / iOS . There are also folks live on earth who doesn't have time or don't want to spend time in customizing device.

pratyush997 said:
WP got *~almost~* all apps his dad may use and as it's his dad (i.e. no time to screw around with device). He may want a device to come with everything to be ready for his order (not in the case of N4 as it runs all stock) .
It's just our (Geek's) mentality that Android > WP / iOS . There are also folks live on earth who doesn't have time or don't want to spend time in customizing device.

Frankly it is not future proof. No update to windows 9(pretty sure)
But still, why should I consider a windows phone?
Any specific model?

rohanz said:
Frankly it is not future proof. No update to windows 9(pretty sure)
But still, why should I consider a windows phone?
Any specific model?

I never said you should choose WP

. Agreed with your point but not the apps one and yeah it ain't as future proof as N4 (or droids under same budget are. )
Devices like Nokia L920 seems fine.

rohanz said:
Not considering nexus 4 because of the bad battery life, display and back glass.
Confused between oppo find 5 and xperia zl
Oppo has a better screen, better battery, better sound, better dev support(faux making kernell for stock ROM) and a good after sales support(updates).
Xperia has a better camera, brand value and a sd card slot.
I would root it and put a custom ROM (Which it doesn't have many)on ZL if I was buying it for me. It is for my dad so I would want it to be rock stable.
Note is just too big(also bad screen) and Optimus G, well is by LG. I have an Optimus 2X so I wouldn't recommend anyone getting a LG phone if you are not comfortable with flashing custom ROMs.
PS : Goodbye Nexus 4 Hello Oppo Find 5

I totally disagree with that. After their Optimus 3.0 UI there customization is superb. LG phone are way more stable than any samshit. good after sales service. I am still having my old LG P690 [Never faced even a single issue - touch wood]
Optimus G is rock solid with very less issues as compared to samshit. :high5:

pratyush997 said:
I never said you should choose WP . Agreed with your point but not the apps one and yeah it ain't as future proof as N4 (or droids under same budget are. )
Devices like Nokia L920 seems fine.

*Why should my dad consider windows over android?

RohanM said:
I totally disagree with that. After their Optimus 3.0 UI there customization is superb. LG phone are way more stable than any samshit. good after sales service. I am still having my old LG P690 [Never faced even a single issue - touch wood]
Optimus G is rock solid with very less issues as compared to samshit.

Let me tell you what happened with my device. It was the first dual core phone in the market, lg's flagship phone and it was released with froyo when gingerbread was already out. A few months later ics is released and LG says they will not support O2X anymore. After a lot of emails and hate posts they finally decide to release ics with a locked bootloader after almost an year(which still had a few bugs) , yes an year after ICS being released.
LG's hardware is the best bang for the buck, but their software sucks.

K

Is warranty of Oppo Find 5 is available in India?
And I think there are no service centers of Oppo in India..
BTW OP dad doesn't care about the updates...He needs good and easy UI..and with a warranty..
So would prefer Windows..Or buy android phone with warranty.

kalam_gohab said:
Is warranty of Oppo Find 5 is available in India?
And I think there are no service centers of Oppo in India..
BTW OP dad doesn't care about the updates...He needs good and easy UI..and with a warranty..
So would prefer Windows..Or buy android phone with warranty.

No, you have to ship it to Hong Kong. They pay the shipping charges. He is the kind of person who will use the phone for at least the next three years, so yeah durability and updates matter.
I can customize android to his needs so UI is not a factor that I am considering.

rohanz said:
*Why should my dad consider windows over android?

Let me tell you what happened with my device. It was the first dual core phone in the market, lg's flagship phone and it was released with froyo when gingerbread was already out. A few months later ics is released and LG says they will not support O2X anymore. After a lot of emails and hate posts they finally decide to release ics with a locked bootloader after almost an year(which still had a few bugs) , yes an year after ICS being released.
LG's hardware is the best bang for the buck, but their software sucks.

I knw whole story of O2X m not new in this dude. But my point is now lg dnt even suck in software dept. U should change ur views now. G2x is past.

RohanM said:
I knw whole story of O2X m not new in this dude. But my point is now lg dnt even suck in software dept. U should change ur views now. G2x is past.

Optimus is not that awesome, it will not make me buy a LG product. Maybe in the future if they release a great device *I* will buy it. It is not for me so can't take chances.

rohanz said:
*Why should my dad consider windows over android?

If he is a busy guy and don't want to spend time screwing around and customizing device then he should. It's just my personal opinion. If you are choosing android. Nothing can beat Nexus 4 (with case).

pratyush997 said:
If he is a busy guy and don't want to spend time screwing around and customizing device then he should. It's just my personal opinion. If you are choosing android. Nothing can beat Nexus 4 (with case).

I think the customizing part will be a one time thing, don't you?
Why is Nexus 4 the best?
I used to think so too but not anymore. It is really cheap for its price in US but not here in India. There are better phones out there. And the same day update argument is invalid as the 4.2 update was broken as ****.

^

Buddy, there are no better phones than N4 in 25-30k budget. Period

rohanz said:
I think the customizing part will be a one time thing, don't you?
Why is Nexus 4 the best?
I used to think so too but not anymore. It is really cheap for its price in US but not here in India. There are better phones out there. And the same day update argument is invalid as the 4.2 update was broken as ****.

Name one single phone that matches N4 in it's price. Ans = Not even a single phone. [ Period ]
you dnt wnt to go for N4, perfectly fine it's ur call but atleast dnt post ***comments like a noob.

RohanM said:
Name one single phone that matches N4 in it's price. Ans = Not even a single phone. [ Period ]
you dnt wnt to go for N4, perfectly fine it's ur call but atleast dnt post ***comments like a noob.

Why are you people so ignorant? What is so awesome about nexus 4 except for the fact that it is made by Google(and is really cheap in US) ?
S3, S3 is better than nexus 4. Except for the build quality and late updates.

rohanz said:
Why are you people so ignorant? What is so awesome about nexus 4 except for the fact that it is made by Google(and is really cheap in US) ?
S3, S3 is better than nexus 4. Except for the build quality and late updates.

Are u serious ? S3 better than N4 ? OMG :chinscratch:

randomuser111 said:
Are u serious ? S3 better than N4 ? OMG

How is it not?
Btw I was saying that from a normal user's point of view. If you want to see the performance, compare it with find 5

You tell me how S3 is better :facepalm:

RohanM said:
Name one single phone that matches N4 in it's price. Ans = Not even a single phone. [ Period ]
you dnt wnt to go for N4, perfectly fine it's ur call but atleast dnt post ***comments like a noob.

Oppo Find 5

Same price as N4 BUT 1080p Display and 13 MP Camera

No service support in India and not even an official site for India.

randomuser111 said:
You tell me how S3 is better

Better camera, screen, UI.......but these vary person to person except camera.

Adv of N4 over S3:
- Fast updates
- Better performance(also 2GB RAM)

randomuser111 said:
No service support in India and not even an official site for India.

Thank you, I don't need your advice.
Guys dont you think we are deviating from the topic?

anupam_pb said:
Better camera, screen, UI.......but these vary person to person except camera.

Adv of N4 over S3:
- Fast updates
- Better performance(also 2GB RAM)

Did you said UI? TW?
LOL

anupam_pb said:
Better camera, screen, UI.......but these vary person to person except camera.

Adv of N4 over S3:
- Fast updates
- Better performance(also 2GB RAM)

Disagree with the UI part.
S3 has removable back cover and better camera, camera app. Also it will get a lot of s4 features in the next update (4.2). It also is a bit battery friendly.

anupam_pb said:
Better camera, screen, UI.......but these vary person to person except camera.

Adv of N4 over S3:
- Fast updates
- Better performance(also 2GB RAM)

Only better camera. Display and UI are both better on Nexus 4.

rohanz said:
Disagree with the UI part.
S3 has removable back cover and better camera, camera app. Also it will get a lot of s4 features in the next update (4.2). It also is a bit battery friendly.

NL820, LG O4X has removable back cover & both are available within your budget.

@ OP fact remains fact that N4 is the Beauty & Beast.
S3 is better LOL.. :rofl:

[I sold My S3 Then bought N4. Every buddy here & xda knows this. search for some old threads of me for a new phone.]

Empirial said:
NL820, LG O4X has removable back cover & both are available within your budget.

He is a LG hater. :mrgreen:

RohanM said:
He is a LG hater.

Coffee ka jala RoohAfza bhi phuk phuk kar peeta hai.

@ Op -

oooyyyyyyeeeeee
Tera S3 zindabaad hai to hai, Lekin Mera Nexus 4 zindabaad tha, zindabaad hai aur zindabaad hi rahega... :machinegun:

^

LOL what kinda post is that

K

I dont understand why people love samsung O_0
N4 has better UI,better screen,Better build,Latest updates,Easily rootable,...
Even though people ought for Samsung :facepalm:

Samsung has shitty plastic !!!
Even a chinese phone looks better than S3....
And s3 is costlier than N4.
N4 rocks!!!

kalam_gohab said:
I dont understand why people love samsung O_0
N4 has better UI,better screen,Better build,Latest updates,Easily rootable,...
Even though people ought for Samsung
Samsung has shitty plastic !!!
Even a chinese phone looks better than S3....
And s3 is costlier than N4.
N4 rocks!!!

They get their brains washed by marketing.

extend a budget little bit and get Xperia ZL

When I showed my Nexus 4 to my technologically challenged friends they said "Dai u could have bought S3 na?" . No offense.

If u don't want to get N4 get XZL.

randomuser111 said:
Only better camera. Display and UI are both better on Nexus 4.

I like over saturated colours of SuperAMOLED......that's why I mentioned

Better camera, screen, UI.......but these vary person to person except camera.

Adv of N4 over S3:
- Fast updates
- Better performance(also 2GB RAM)

OP has option of Xperia ZR too...4.6" 720p display but rugged (since if his dad won't do lot of customization but need android)..monsoon period..so ZR has advantage over ZL n N4..n dad will be happy with ruggedness

..though i would suggest Lumia 920 for seniors..sleek UI..

future proof + customizations => Nexus 4..

Xperia ZR is a great phone.... but I won't recommend pink colour :-D

bhushan2k said:
OP has option of Xperia ZR too...4.6" 720p display but rugged (since if his dad won't do lot of customization but need android)..monsoon period..so ZR has advantage over ZL n N4..n dad will be happy with ruggedness ..though i would suggest Lumia 920 for seniors..sleek UI..

future proof + customizations => Nexus 4..

I am considering xperia ZR, xperia ZL and find 5. Now I'll show them to my dad and ask which one he likes.

K

rohanz said:
I am considering xperia ZR, xperia ZL and find 5. Now I'll show them to my dad and ask which one he likes.

Dont buy Find 5 cuz of warranty.

rohanz said:
I am considering xperia ZR, xperia ZL and find 5. Now I'll show them to my dad and ask which one he likes.

find 5 has warranty issues as others mentioned above..also consider ZR over ZL in monsoon...

bhushan2k said:
find 5 has warranty issues as others mentioned above..also consider ZR over ZL in monsoon...

I will tell him all these things. Find 5 has warranty. I have to ship it to Hong Kong. They pay for shipping.