Mobile within 10k · DIGIT-ARC

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Looking to purchase a mobile within Rs.10000, no allegiance to any brand
>Music is not at all a priority, though wouldn't mind a FM tuner
>High speed of operation is an absolute necessity
>Good camera is an added bonus
>Should be one that I can play around with(modding,theming,apps,etc.)

N73 nothing better than that for your requirements

you can play around with N73 by modding it to N73 ME

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^^krates-you are absolutely obsessed with the n73...theres also world outside you know.When it comes to modding and themes, no-one beats SE walkman.Dude, close ur eyes and get an SE.you can mod the acoustic drivers,cam drivers, incorporate fash themes and much more.And speed.speed's a thing nokia is not known for but SE is.

cheers on ur purchase.i personally would recommend the W580i.cool and sleek and very moddable.

^^^ i already have a W810i (i know when it comes to modding and theming SE is better but read the other statment's too )

High speed of operation is an absolute necessity

Should be one that I can play around with(modding,theming,apps,etc.)

He can tweak around with symbian , hack his phone just like windows and much more.

and what he will do with w580i when

Music is not at all a priority

K810i

I would recommend the combination of K790i and HPM-70 earphones [If you can spend out a little extra for music]....All this in 10K...

But if you need Symbian Applications, then get N73....

okk..get the K790,flash it to K810.The change the acousti drivers to the ones in W810, change the cam dirvers with support fot manual focus etc etc.. i symbian.the max you can do is to tweak applications..

Gotta be a k790/k810 ...

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if you want speed never get n73 or n73 me
for your requirement i think w810i suite the best from all aspects
and if you want to spend less than this go with k550i and you can mode it as w610i and het the best features of both cybershot and walkman

choicefreedom2000 said:
if you want speed never get n73 or n73 me

i see you always discouraging N73 what's your problem dude

have you ever worked on a new N73 or a N73 without crap installed

and for a little slowness remember you are comparing a SMARTPHONE with a NORMAL ONE

i don't find N73 to be slow i dunno what is the prob

SE phones are faster than any firmware of N73 with or without crap installed even though the speed of N73 has improved in the recent firmwares......

gagandeep said:
SE phones are faster than any firmware of N73 with or without crap installed even though the speed of N73 has improved in the recent firmwares......

krates said:
and for a little slowness remember you are comparing a SMARTPHONE with a NORMAL ONE

Nothing beats MotoRokr E6 when it comes to modding. Guys in this thread have installed DOS, Games Boy Advance Emulator, NES Roms, etc. have hacked it to increase volume.
One of them now wants to install Android in it.

^^^+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

used the ROKR and virutally converted it into an iphone.if only Moto had used better quality stuff in making this thing, it would have been a bestseller. But the Moto ming is equally disgusting.

you however have to compromise on the audio quality and the cam quality a bit.

krates said:
and for a little slowness remember you are comparing a SMARTPHONE with a NORMAL ONE

Haha, but when you install some softwares on N73, it again becomes slow....

Just had an query, whats the current price of N73 in the market.......

N73 is 11k and the N73 ME is 13k

i have installed google maps,office editor,opera,symtorrent + 13 games

still not slow !!!

^^ Haan, yaar....I mean slow comparatively to K790i......

But if you need a smartfone in this budget, N73 is the best...No doubt about it.

Offtopic: Well, I was out of station for 3 days and I got a chance to play around with my Maama's N73......

I hav 87 apps installed on my n73 including a 60mb dictionary :shock:

and its working awesome. No freeze or hangs yet.

^^^^ my mind is boggled now .................................

have to install some apps in my phone now gr...

buy k790i or w580i

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Since you have mentioned the modding capabilities of the E6, I was wondering whether it applies to the Z6 as well because it too runs on Linux and in fact has one of the fastest processors @628Mhz and costs near 8k I suppose. I guess it lacks a FM tuner, doesn't have such a good music player and a poor camera but then I don't intend to use my phone either as a camera or music player but would rather want it to be a fun gadget.
I guess on the Nokia side it would be the N73.
As for SE, I wouldn't want to go in for a Walkman phone since I am not interested in the music player and I didn't find the K660i that impressive.
Any suggestions on the Samsung/LG front?

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gagandeep said:
^^ Haan, yaar....I mean slow comparatively to K790i......

i just cant understand why u guys keep comparing the speed of a smartphone with a normal phone?
the smartphone will always be slower than a normal phone (most cases).if u wanna compare the speed of K790i then compare it with any s40v3 Nokia fones.

utsav said:
I hav 87 apps installed on my n73 including a 60mb dictionary and its working awesome. No freeze or hangs yet.

Same here

The latest firmware has vastly improved speed. I am using it and as utsav said No freeze or hangs yet.
This is just a misconception created because of the older firmware.

Please try the newer firmware and then comment.

hellgate said:
if u wanna compare the speed of K790i then compare it with any s40v3 Nokia fones.

That won't happen because S40 phones are faster than SE phones. They start up much faster, switch off faster and are also lightning fast through the menu without any silly, time consuming sliding animations and transitions. Only Java in SE phones as faster.

hellgate said:
i just cant understand why u guys keep comparing the speed of a smartphone with a normal phone?
the smartphone will always be slower than a normal phone (most cases).if u wanna compare the speed of K790i then compare it with any s40v3 Nokia fones.

krazzy said:
That won't happen because S40 phones are faster than SE phones. They start up much faster, switch off faster and are also lightning fast through the menu without any silly, time consuming sliding animations and transitions. Only Java in SE phones as faster.

I want any SE khaitan boy to comment on that

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The Nokia 5700 at Rs.9999
Symbian OS v9.2, S60 rel. 3.1
TFT, 16M colors
ARM 11, 369 MHz CPU
3G
and I guess it includes all that one might want of a smartphone.
So a done deal?

As far as i know, low end Symbian phones are really slow.

^ Not at all. My E50 is fast enough for multitasking 2-3 apps at a time. And the 5700/E51 are super fast with their 369mhz proccys. Just that the 5700 has slightly less RAM.

krazzy said:
That won't happen because S40 phones are faster than SE phones. They start up much faster, switch off faster and are also lightning fast through the menu without any silly, time consuming sliding animations and transitions. Only Java in SE phones as faster.

Start up faster??are you kidding me??have you used the W580 or W610 or any phone in tha trange.The starting may vary a second but both are equally fast.Shutting fdown is equally fast too.If you dunno, the sliding animations can be turned off.btw, just because S40 phones are crap and hang like hell, please dont use them to downgrade the SE phones.S40 phones dont have a good music player, are riddled with bugs, dont have a good camera, have a basic primitive Ui.Most of them have crap battery life(lead by 6300).The themes are pathetic, etc etc.The only s40 phone that deserves admiration is the 6500 slide.Other than that, all of them are crap.

6233 is also a very good s40 device

t3chg33k said:
Since you have mentioned the modding capabilities of the E6, I was wondering whether it applies to the Z6 as well because it too runs on Linux and in fact has one of the fastest processors @628Mhz and costs near 8k I suppose. I guess it lacks a FM tuner, doesn't have such a good music player and a poor camera but then I don't intend to use my phone either as a camera or music player but would rather want it to be a fun gadget.
I guess on the Nokia side it would be the N73.
As for SE, I wouldn't want to go in for a Walkman phone since I am not interested in the music player and I didn't find the K660i that impressive.
Any suggestions on the Samsung/LG front?

No need to shell out higher for music capabilities when you don't see urself using phones as PMP's.
I urge all the experts not to get into arguments over Nokia vs SE in every thread.
Search www.modmymoto.com for moddability of Z6. can start from here.

I guess the threadstarter had decided on the Moto E6 and has my full support for it.Y the chaos then?? Linux is what E6 makes one of the best buys.if you are not a geek, e6 doesnt make sense tho.

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I had decided to go for the Nokia 5700 but it seems the production of this phone was stopped earlier this year and none of the shops I have visited have the phone in stock. I know that it might still be possible to get this phone but I can't fathom why Nokia would stop the production of a phone which has great reviews everywhere on the net and the only problems that the phone did have were with the software which has subsequently been solved through software updates. Any idea anyone?

Its not stopped afaik

t3chg33k said:
I had decided to go for the Nokia 5700 but it seems the production of this phone was stopped earlier this year and none of the shops I have visited have the phone in stock. I know that it might still be possible to get this phone but I can't fathom why Nokia would stop the production of a phone which has great reviews everywhere on the net and the only problems that the phone did have were with the software which has subsequently been solved through software updates. Any idea anyone?

me too asked on many shops they said that it's production is stopped better go for N73

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utsav said:
Its not stopped afaik

It has certainly been discontinued quite a few months back and this too has been acknowledged by Nokia itself but of course they never gave any reason for the same.
I was reading a particular post on another forum wherein a user who had submitted his 5700 for replacement and was actually offered a 6300 in exchange since Nokia officials mentioned that they cannot offer a replacement for the same since it has been discontinued.
Sometimes I wonder why would Nokia stop the production of a great VFM product whereas they are still continuing production for older models.

I really don't wish to go for the N73 since it has the much slower ARM10 processor @229 Mhz and a 256k screen compared to the 5700's ARM11 @369Mhz and 2.2" QVGA screen. Anyway I am not interested in the 3.2MP camera of the N73 and the average or better music player and camera of the 5700 would do perfectly since I am neither a shutterbug nor an audiophile.

FYI n73 has arm 9 206mhz processor and its not slow. U wont be encoding divx video on ur mobile i suppose

. The 369mhz processor of 5700 isnt that fast compared to 206 mhz of n73 in real scenario. Nokia aint that fool that they will sell a better phone for lower price. 5700 is little bit faster but dont get blown away by higher MHz count. Ram counts a lot when it comes to mobile phones. Also n73 has better battery life ,and u know the rest i suppose . U wont find any better symbian phone in this range.

dreamcatcher said:
Start up faster??are you kidding me??have you used the W580 or W610 or any phone in tha trange.The starting may vary a second but both are equally fast.Shutting fdown is equally fast too.If you dunno, the sliding animations can be turned off.btw, just because S40 phones are crap and hang like hell, please dont use them to downgrade the SE phones.S40 phones dont have a good music player, are riddled with bugs, dont have a good camera, have a basic primitive Ui.Most of them have crap battery life(lead by 6300).The themes are pathetic, etc etc.The only s40 phone that deserves admiration is the 6500 slide.Other than that, all of them are crap.

Eh? I was only comparing the UI speed? Where did stuff like battery life come in? And S40 phones are fast. For e.g. my sister's old Nokia 6060 started up in 5 seconds flat whereas my old W710i took 25 seconds. Also on switch off it took 3 seconds compared to 6 on my W710i. And my W710i had no option anywhere to turn off transitions.

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utsav said:
FYI n73 has arm 9 206mhz processor and its not slow. U wont be encoding divx video on ur mobile i suppose . The 369mhz processor of 5700 isnt that fast compared to 206 mhz of n73 in real scenario. Nokia aint that fool that they will sell a better phone for lower price. 5700 is little bit faster but dont get blown away by higher MHz count. Ram counts a lot when it comes to mobile phones. Also n73 has better battery life ,and u know the rest i suppose . U wont find any better symbian phone in this range.

Yup I do agree, but time and again I have come across forums where users have actually changed over from the N73 to the 5700, now it wouldn't have been the case had they not had a better experience with the 5700.
Actually I do feel that Nokia might have actually slipped on the marketing front with the 5700 because even last year the 5700 was released at something around 12.5k whereas the N73 was selling at 17-18k. I guess that may be one of the reasons that Nokia has discontinued the 5700 because it actually provided better VFM than the N73.

N73 is costly mainly because the cam uses carl zeiss optics and its 3.2mp .

^^dude...there are nothing called carl zeiss lenses.they are lenses made by nokia and cerified by carl-zeiss.So nothing special about it. Its the same all over.

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^^+1
People often leave out the certification aspect when speaking about the camera lens.
Certification of some lens doesn't at all ensure the same quality as the lens manufactured by the optical experts.