Multiple queries on OpenSuSE 10.2

1)I'm able to copy contents off a floppy to my disk, but not the other way as I don't get any option, either as normal user or root. How do I go about copying files? Also, though the files have been deleted, i.e., even from the trash of the floppy, the contents remains on the floppy when checked on Windows. What is the correct way of deleting files completely?

2)GNOME sometimes hangs the applications and the only thing which I can do is do a hard-boot of my system. I want to avoid this. Even the Force Quit button also is not activated sometimes. Is there any shortcuts which can shutdown the system?? (Does Ctrl+Alt+Del work?

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3)I want to run MySQL on my system and I've heard about LAMP. All servers have been installed during the initial setup, so I don't need to depend on any packages/dependencies.........I hope :!:

How do I start Apache server and/or related servers on my box? I'm trying this for the first time, so a step-by-step guide would be helpful

M

phreak0utt said:
1)I'm able to copy contents off a floppy to my disk, but not the other way as I don't get any option, either as normal user or root. How do I go about copying files? Also, though the files have been deleted, i.e., even from the trash of the floppy, the contents remains on the floppy when checked on Windows. What is the correct way of deleting files completely?

Checked the permissions?

phreak0utt said:
2)GNOME sometimes hangs the applications and the only thing which I can do is do a hard-boot of my system. I want to avoid this. Even the Force Quit button also is not activated sometimes. Is there any shortcuts which can shutdown the system?? (Does Ctrl+Alt+Del work? )

Go to tty2, press ctrl + alt + F2. Login from there and kill offending apps and see what happens? Yeah ctrl + alt + del also works. If nothing works, PC is all jammed up do this
Alt + syrq + s then alt+ sysrq + u then alt + sysrq + b
The order is important. First one sync everything to fs, second unmounts the fs and last one is for reboot. Use this as a last case scenario.

phreak0utt said:
3)I want to run MySQL on my system and I've heard about LAMP. All servers have been installed during the initial setup, so I don't need to depend on any packages/dependencies.........I hope How do I start Apache server and/or related servers on my box? I'm trying this for the first time, so a step-by-step guide would be helpful

just download apache2, mysql and php from your package manager almost everything will be ready. There are other solutions too, like lampp.
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After install mysql, php and apache you should find configuration options in YAST. I am not familiar with YAST so can't help there.

tech_your_future said:
Checked the permissions?

As in?

tech_your_future said:
just download apache2, mysql and php from your package manager almost everything will be ready. There are other solutions too, like lampp.

apache2, mysql and php are already installed, like I've already mentioned before. I think lampp is the one which I need to start. How do I start these servers on my 10.2 box?

to start apache2

sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start

or

sudo /etc/init.d/httpd start

But there must be some frontend for starting services. I'm not well versed with suse, so can't help you in that front.

If Gnome is troubling you so much try kde. It works much better on OpenSuSE. If your apps still hang its prolly some config fault in the apps themselves

C

@tech_your_future :Alt + syrq + s then alt+ sysrq + u then alt + sysrq + b
The order is important. First one sync everything to fs, second unmounts the fs and last one is for reboot. Use this as a last case scenario.

Is it only for SuSe? coz i tried it on fedora and it doesn't work...

Another one u can try as ctrl+alt+del in windows is:
ctrl+alt+backspace .....this will kill the X session and goes back to the login screen

For apache, as root:
/etc/init.d/httpd start
then check if u get the apache test page when u enter *localhost in your browser
For php, after you do the above, enter *localhost/info.php .... if you see a 404 error, you may have to make some changes in apache conf file.
This may help: *www.brennan.id.au/13-Apache_Web_Server.html

NucleusKore said:
If Gnome is troubling you so much try kde. It works much better on OpenSuSE. If your apps still hang its prolly some config fault in the apps themselves

DE trolling.pls stop this.It can happen much BAD in kde or any DE for that matter.

[B said:
phreak0utt[/B]] 2)GNOME sometimes hangs the applications and the only thing which I can do is do a hard-boot of my system. I want to avoid this. Even the Force Quit button also is not activated sometimes. Is there any shortcuts which can shutdown the system?? (Does Ctrl+Alt+Del work? )

GNOME is hanging?which app is hanging?Do You have a swap partition.if all efforts fails u can try "killall appname" in CLI.

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cranky said:
Is it only for SuSe? coz i tried it on fedora and it doesn't work...

Works on any distro, maybe on other *nix systems too. In fact first time I came across this was in a LUG meet, on FC machine.

tech_your_future said:
Go to tty2, press ctrl + alt + F2. Login from there and kill offending apps and see what happens? Yeah ctrl + alt + del also works. If nothing works, PC is all jammed up do this
Alt + syrq + s then alt+ sysrq + u then alt + sysrq + b
The order is important. First one sync everything to fs, second unmounts the fs and last one is for reboot. Use this as a last case scenario.

Alt+Sysrq+e =Kills all processes pending in an order some delay happens!
Alr+Sysrq+i=restart
definition file though comes with kernel sources dir
*snafu.freedom.org/linux2.2/docs/sysrq.txt

cranky said:
For apache, as root:
/etc/init.d/httpd start
then check if u get the apache test page when u enter *localhost in your browser
For php, after you do the above, enter *localhost/info.php .... if you see a 404 error, you may have to make some changes in apache conf file.
This may help: *www.brennan.id.au/13-Apache_Web_Server.html

I'm getting the following error

linux-1lvb:/home/sunil # cd /etc/init.d/httpd start
bash: cd: /etc/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
linux-1lvb:/home/sunil # cd /etc/init.d/httpd
bash: cd: /etc/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
linux-1lvb:/home/sunil # cd /etc/
linux-1lvb:/etc # cd /init.d
bash: cd: /init.d: No such file or directory
linux-1lvb:/etc # cd httpd
bash: cd: httpd: No such file or directory
linux-1lvb:/etc # cd /httpd
bash: cd: /httpd: No such file or directory

OK, what about the floppy permissions?

It should be /etc/init.d/apache2 start

M

Some distros like FC, name it httpd and others use the name apache. So, check which one your distro uses.
Give us the output of fstab for your floppy.

Here is the output of fstab for my floppy

/dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto noauto,user,sync 0 0

M

Permissions are fine. Have you made sure floppy isn't write protected?

I've not made any changes. All the permissions are default since install.

M

I am talking about floppy as in hardware not the floppy drive's permission in linux.
The tab on floppy which can make it write-protected. Are you sure it's set to read write.

Yes!! I tried only after checking that the notch is in the write mode.
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EDIT: Even Limewire doesn't work. I've installed JRE, but nothing happens. I type limewire in the run dialog box, there is an icon of limewire shown and after I hit enter, nothing happens. Any idea?

phreak0utt said:
I'm getting the following error

Why are you adding a cd in front of every command

The proper command is

/etc/init.d/httpd start

or

/etc/init.d/apache2 start

Yes desertwind. Its working now

But, I'm not able to rep you at all!

M

phreak0utt said:
EDIT: Even Limewire doesn't work. I've installed JRE, but nothing happens. I type limewire in the run dialog box, there is an icon of limewire shown and after I hit enter, nothing happens. Any idea?

Open a terminal and type limewire in there. And see what error it gives.

phreak0utt said:
Yes desertwind. Its working now But, I'm not able to rep you at all!

Don't give a damn to it.

Happy to hear that one of ur prob is solved

tech_your_future said:
Open a terminal and type limewire in there. And see what error it gives.

Here's the output:

limewire
Starting LimeWire...
Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at *www.java.com
OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/lib/ hierarchy
You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from *www.java.com
ls: cannot access /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/java/ hierarchy
You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from *www.java.com
ls: cannot access /opt/j*: No such file or directory
OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /opt/ hierarchy
You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from *www.java.com

I've installed JRE, but where have I messed it up? Should there be a /usr/java ? I didn't find it

M

have you install sun java? If yes, then which version? If the version is greater than 1.4.x then where have you installed it?

Yes, I've installed it according the website says here and the version is 1.5. I've installed in /usr/local and elsewhere as well, but I don't remember the directory name

but I'm still getting that error

M

Remove that jre and install from suse's repositories.

How to remove that?

By deleting /usr/java/jre1.5.0 directory.

I've installed it in /usr/local according to the link, but still, why doesn't it work?

can anyone please answer my query? I'm kinda crippled without limewire

M

Simply install jre from the package manager and then install limewire again. Limewire, too from package manager would be a good idea.

Install JRE from the addon cd

No results for JRE when I search

M

Have you set up the repositories properly? If not then find the proper repositories and set them up. linux.wordpress.com had a nice article on suse 10.2's repositories, search for it.
For jre, search for sun-java and for jdk it should be sun-java-devel I guess.

yes!! I've setup the repos properly, according the tut given by JGuru. yast2 doesn't show sun-java or sun-java-devel!!!

Now what?!

I had given the same link for someone else here

But, not all are tested to perfection.

M

*en.opensuse.org/Java

in the addon cd don't look for JRE, you won't find it. Look for sun, and select the following
java-1_5_0-sun
java-1_5_0-sun-alsa
java-1_5_0-sun-devel
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin

or higher version, in 10.2 it must be 6

@Nucleus-Your suggestion worked like a charm!! Thanks! I thought that CD would not really come handy. Well, the versions are the same as which you mentioned

@T_Y_F-Checked the site, but the repos refuse to work and throws up errors that directory can't be created.

Well, java matter settled. What about my floppy drive?

Didn't want to start a new thread, so posting it here.

Getting this error for the first time when installing Limewire. What does it exactly mean, why is it happening and how to fix it?

*i12.tinypic.com/2iaxsw1.png

M

Well try gpg key of the package is missing. Well you will have to add it. Now, someone using suse can help you with this or google it.
Or maybe it's not signed at all, then to install it, check security level in preferences or somewhere and change it to 'checksum' or 'none' as it's said in there.

An easy way is to download the limewire rpm from limewire site and install it with Kpackage manager

If it refuses to install override check dependencies. I SAID ONLY IF IT REFUSES TO INSTALL

Somehow it has got installed. Dunno how!?

Good for me though

where does opensuse store the files that were updated by yum so tat i can create backup?