Musicians Corner V1: Cover Band Edition

Since there seem to be so many musicians in our midst, I thought it was a good idea to maintain a thread for us to upload pics of our instruments, songs, and have other discussions that non-musicians would find boring

Maybe we can start a virtual band later

Nice initiative.

I'll start first. I play the keyboards having cleared Grade 8 in Trinity College of Music, London. 8 years now, I got a Yamaha PSR 550. Its old now, but highly reliable, plus I know it inside out. Add to it I have no plans to invest in a new keyboard due to college admissions, it looks like I'm stuck with it.

Can cover any keyboard solo (not Dream Theatre, Jordon Rudess is God) like CoB, Kalmah, etc. I can cover thrash too (Metallica, Megadeth, bit of Sodom)

Maybe I'll upload a vid of Tornado of Souls

However, my left hand is pretty weak, so I end up playing chords or at best, simple melodies with it. I have to work on it

(any tips?)

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Guitarist here.

I have mentioned my gear in the metal/rock thread but let me show it off (though it's not worth showing off

) again :-

Granada PRD4 Acoustic
Yamaha Pacifica 012
Marshall MG10CD
Boss DS 1 distortion
I use Dunlop Jazz III picks... love the stubbies!

Soon getting a Peavey Vypyr 30 or 75

I play Tabla. Done my "Visharad".

I play very, very rarely and quite horribly.

What I have:

[Update - Bought on 29th July, 2010] Line 6 Pod X3 Live
*swarasutra.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/pod_x3_live.jpg

Slammer CT 212 Metallic Red - looks exactly like the one below, but red

*www.slammerguitars.com/img/guitars/CT21TB_lg.jpg

Yamaha Pacifica PAC012
*www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/Guitars/Product/Views/V3_EN_PAC012_BLACK.jpg

Beta Aivin MX 30
*www.beta-aivin.com/products/guitar/mx30_big.jpg

Marshall MG 15 CD AMP
*www.magdonmusic.com/amps/Marshall/images/product/mg15dfx.jpg

Korg ToneWorks AX100G
*www.activemusician.com/images/store/full/EM_AX100G.jpg

What I want (but can't afford):

JS 2400
*resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/ProductMainZoom/test/JS2400WH.jpg

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you guys should also add images

The JS and the GEM series by Ibanez are masterpieces but I am more into those 'metal' guitars. I so badly want a Xiphos and an Engl Savage 140

.

mapex drum set standard 5 with mapex double bass pedal.I wish i would be like Jan Axel of mayhem.yeah i know only dreams can fulfill that sort of talent.

My SX SEG1 STD BK Left Handed. Exact model and color as in pic.

*www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/seg1stdlhbk1.jpg

My Acoustic Guitar can be seen in my profile pic

@Psychosocial: you got the DS-1 right ?

1) How do you find it for the death metal covers you play ?
2) How good is it for playing single notes with high distortion ?
3) I wanna get some tone like this: YouTube - Kirk Hammett shows riffs from Master Of Puppets does it come close ?

And yeah has anyone seen ProCo RAT's or atleast its clones (similar sounding stuff) in India ? Never seen it in any online store so far

@MetalHeadGautham :-

The SX looks like a sweet guitar dude! And to answer your questions :-
1) It's okay. It does not have the high-med-low or any other EQ settings so you can't get the crunchy low end sound of death or the scooped mid sound of thrash.
2) Again it's okay. It gets a little... umm... 'buzzy' but afterall, it's a budget distortion.
3) Well you might but good luck. I haven't come close to Kirk's tone.

Another thing is that the DS-1 is a battery monster and will burn through batteries in days. Right now, it's lying useless cause there's some fault in it. I am ordering the Digitech Death Metal Distortion in a couple o' days (best distortion <4k).

C

Just started to learn violin. I also am intersted in learning guitar. Might do that through online videos. Please suggest an acoustic guitar for learning purpose under Rs. 5k. Thank you.

Chirag said:
Just started to learn violin. I also am intersted in learning guitar. Might do that through online videos. Please suggest an acoustic guitar for learning purpose under Rs. 5k. Thank you.

Pick up any Yamaha model. They are all great! You might have to pay around 6k but they will be worth it. Other than that the Granada Dreadnoughts will be good.

Drummer here....
have my own band... mostly play hindi stuff(becuz of my bloody college)
and when it comes to music i like.... Post rock,Alternative Rock, Progressive Rock,Punk Rock,nu metal, hip hop

C

How are Kaps guitar? I saw this model Kaps FCP41 costing 4.9k and had digital tuner on the guitar itself. Any users? I need it for learning purpose so trying not to go above 5k.

Psychosocial said:
@MetalHeadGautham :-

The SX looks like a sweet guitar dude! And to answer your questions :-
1) It's okay. It does not have the high-med-low or any other EQ settings so you can't get the crunchy low end sound of death or the scooped mid sound of thrash.
2) Again it's okay. It gets a little... umm... 'buzzy' but afterall, it's a budget distortion.
3) Well you might but good luck. I haven't come close to Kirk's tone.

Another thing is that the DS-1 is a battery monster and will burn through batteries in days. Right now, it's lying useless cause there's some fault in it. I am ordering the Digitech Death Metal Distortion in a couple o' days (best distortion <4k).

OK lets forget Kirk's distortion for a while. Just think of normal songs, where you replace power chords with single notes (but higher effects to compensate the sound).

Does DS-1 sound good for that ?

Oh yeah and btw instead of Digitech Death Metal Distortion consider going for Digitech 7-in-1 Distortion Pedal. 6.5k and has sounds of every popular pedal around.

PS: You interested in parting with the DS-1 if the pedal refuses to work ? I'm looking for a dead pedal to salvage a few electronics from...

@MetalheadGautham :- Well it's good in that way. You can get Smells Like Teen Spirit esque sound (well, the song was recorded with the pedal so ofcourse it will give the sound). It will do as a good budget pedal. And yes, the single note thing is possible. It can give you that high volume, distorted sound for playing single notes in place of power chords.

And my budget is only 4k, otherwise I would have got the Tubescreamer or The Digitech 7 in 1

.

i power wank every night B-) surely i should be considered a musician now that even designers are labeled artists

show us some vids/audio clips guys!

Gautham, you're a lefty? I've always wanted to get a lefty guitar, try and string it for a righty, and then see if i can duplicate some weird Hendrix sounds

Raaabo said:
Gautham, you're a lefty?

I'm sort of ambidextrous, preferring a different hand for each task :lol:

I've always wanted to get a lefty guitar, try and string it for a righty, and then see if i can duplicate some weird Hendrix sounds

For hendrix like sounds get a stratocaster and a big muff pi

BTW anyone here used an Ibanez Tone-Lok DS7 ? In the few video reviews online, it sounds in the steely metal meets big muff pi territory. But most of the videos were recorded under poor recording conditions. Anyway, @ 1.9K it seems to be the cheapest distortion pedal around.

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Psychosocial said:
@MetalheadGautham :- Well it's good in that way. You can get Smells Like Teen Spirit esque sound (well, the song was recorded with the pedal so ofcourse it will give the sound). It will do as a good budget pedal. And yes, the single note thing is possible. It can give you that high volume, distorted sound for playing single notes in place of power chords.

And my budget is only 4k, otherwise I would have got the Tubescreamer or The Digitech 7 in 1 .

And it also does some decent dream theater riffs (not leads) right ? The tone in Pain Attack is the EXACT one I saw in BOSS's youtube channel DS-1 sound check.

BTW I think you can buy a 7-in-1 if you sell your DS-1 for 2k to 2.2K which I think is possible if its in good working condition.

And yeah you considered getting a DSP instead of an analog ? Like Zoom G1 ? Entry level DSPs cost 4k and some of them can be worked a bit to get pretty decent sounds.

@MetalHead :- I haven't actually tried to get the Dream Theater tone or even tried to learn anything from them... so dunno

.

And I am not selling my DS... It's completely dead so no-one would buy it anyways. And Multi-FX just aren't my thing... dunno why.

Psychosocial said:
@MetalHead :- I haven't actually tried to get the Dream Theater tone or even tried to learn anything from them... so dunno .

And I am not selling my DS... It's completely dead so no-one would buy it anyways. And Multi-FX just aren't my thing... dunno why.

If you are going to stores to check out the sounds of various boxes, DO tell me how the sound checks go.

I'm dead confused what to buy and HOW MUCH TO SPEND seeing that I should even GET that kind of cash first. The amount of cash I get depends on a certain event in august/september...

look at my range of options:

Ibanez DS7 --> 1.9k price cheapest
BOSS DS-1 --> most popular pedal in the world --> 2.6k
Zoom G1N --> budget multi FX --> 3.65k
Zoom G1XN --> budget Multi Effects with Expression Pedal --> 4.5k

and on top of all these possible market purchases, there is the big daddy offer from a friend of mine who went from guitars to bass so is selling off his processor for a really good price...

Used but well maintained Korg AX1500G --> market value 12K, selling for 6.5k

Trouble here is that the higher I spend on GuitarFX, lower becomes my budget for other purchases like an external HDD. So I'm looking for the most versatile and useful buy which I can't possibly throw away later (which is why a very popularly used pedal like DS-1 seems attractive).

Want my AX100G?

MetalheadGautham said:
If you are going to stores to check out the sounds of various boxes, DO tell me how the sound checks go.

I'm dead confused what to buy and HOW MUCH TO SPEND seeing that I should even GET that kind of cash first. The amount of cash I get depends on a certain event in august/september...

look at my range of options:

Ibanez DS7 --> 1.9k price cheapest

BOSS DS-1 --> most popular pedal in the world --> 2.6k

Zoom G1N --> budget multi FX --> 3.65k

Zoom G1XN --> budget Multi Effects with Expression Pedal --> 4.5k

and on top of all these possible market purchases, there is the big daddy offer from a friend of mine who went from guitars to bass so is selling off his processor for a really good price...

Used but well maintained Korg AX1500G --> market value 12K, selling for 6.5k

Trouble here is that the higher I spend on GuitarFX, lower becomes my budget for other purchases like an external HDD. So I'm looking for the most versatile and useful buy which I can't possibly throw away later (which is why a very popularly used pedal like DS-1 seems attractive).

If you are looking for a long term investment then the DS1 sounds like a good toy. But the multi-FX pedals are serious bang for bucks. And that Korg AX1500 is a sweeet deal I must say

.

The thing is that most of the budget multiFX pedals have shitty effects quality... noe what I mean ? I think if you are mostly into metal then you should spend on a distortion pedal. A pedal dedicated to a single effect will give you a finer quality effect... but I guess you already know that.

True, dedicated pedals do sound better for a single effect like distortion, but not when you're comparing a line 6 multifx to an el cheapo dist pedal.

Anyone ever tried multi-dist? I once went through an old boss dist + ax100 metal + amp distortion. god it sounded awful until i turned noisegate all the way up and learnt to control the feedback. was pretty psychedelic sounding after that

And seriously, no takers for the ax100?

@Raaabo: Multi-Dist ? Never seen it live with the real stuff. Though my friend's BOSS GT-10 (the world's best digital effects powerhouse) can emulate that kind of thing.

I've all but settled for Zoom G1N since it fits my budget perfectly. That is unless I get a stunning deal for the DS-1.

Has anyone tried these DSP based multi-FX distortion pedals ?

I mean how well can something like the Zoom G1n emulate classic pedals like DigiTech Death Metal, BOSS DS-1, ProCo RAT, Ibanez TS9, etc ? I've seen patches which make them sound good, but never seen anyone use them to EMULATE the classics.

My DS-1 started working out of ****ing no-where! Woo man! Gonna have fun when I return from school. This means that I can get another pedal rather than a dist.!

Psychosocial said:
My DS-1 started working out of ****ing no-where! Woo man! Gonna have fun when I return from school. This means that I can get another pedal rather than a dist.!

Guess it was either a mechanical fault or a dead battery :lol:

Has anyone here tried covering Misirlou by Dick Dale ? Its one of those songs which is actually FUN to play

MetalheadGautham said:
Has anyone here tried covering Misirlou by Dick Dale ? Its one of those songs which is actually FUN to play

Know the main melody. It's really fun to play it! I kind of use it to warm up my picking hand lol!

Nice thread Raaboo
Though i dont play anything, i was thinking of taking up guitar.

Misirlou.. is awesome...
and like always the guitarists take over :lol:

Misirlou is something like:

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I made a few mistakes in the frets but the numbering is correct. maybe you need to repeat a pattern one more time or one less time.

On the Low E and High E.

Yeah as Psychosocial said, its a great warmup song.

I play the keyboard... i am 15 yrs of age and have playing sice last 7 years...

See some of my vids here- YouTube - musicianofkeyboard's Channel

I also play the guitar...although i haven't learnt it I can play a few Metallica songs(which are my favourite) and some others to..

Cool vids thetechfreak.

R

Is there no one who likes Indian Classical Music?
Everybody talking of rock, jazz, pop....?

Rishabh_sharma1990 said:
Is there no one who likes Indian Classical Music?
Everybody talking of rock, jazz, pop....?

i like indian classical music.... fusion music.... etc....

R

^^thats great

we have to save our own traditional and cultural music.
and one thing I want to say that our music is not for entertainment like pop.
Its a real commitment, as you might know how hard is to learn instruments like sarod, sitar, tabla.

Rishabh_sharma1990 said:
^^thats great
we have to save our own traditional and cultural music.
and one thing I want to say that our music is not for entertainment like pop.
Its a real commitment, as you might know how hard is to learn instruments like sarod, sitar, tabla.

check this instrumental album....

Divinity - Divine Music For Meditation Vol 1

MusicIndiaOnline - Divinity - Divine Music For Meditation Vol 1 - Various Artists - Free Indian Music, Listen to Free Bollywood, Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Carnatic, Hindustani, Devotional Music

R

^^Actually I already have 35 GB collection of Hindustani and Carnatic Classical Music (collectively called indian classical) :wink:

. And I listen to it daily. Its really a divine feeling

I would suggest you to listen to Pandit Ravi Shankar's "In Celebration" album, a 4 cd collection.

I have a hundred and twenty gig collection of metal. **** yeah!

R

^^well thats not a big deal bro

Rishabh_sharma1990 said:
^^Actually I already have 35 GB collection of Hindustani and Carnatic Classical Music (collectively called indian classical) . And I listen to it daily. Its really a divine feeling
I would suggest you to listen to Pandit Ravi Shankar's "In Celebration" album, a 4 cd collection.

35 GB collection aur woh bhi Hindustani and Carnatic Classical Music mein :shock:

wow great...

Pandit Ravi Shankar's "In Celebration"
hnmmm okk sunte hai.. ..

@Rishabh :- I know, it was sarcastic

Rishabh_sharma1990 said:
^^Actually I already have 35 GB collection of Hindustani and Carnatic Classical Music (collectively called indian classical) . And I listen to it daily. Its really a divine feeling
I would suggest you to listen to Pandit Ravi Shankar's "In Celebration" album, a 4 cd collection.

do u have this 2 album?

"A Travellers Tale"
Pandit Ronu Majumdar. Together with ... Taufiq - Drums, Octopads. Raju Singh - Acoustic Guitar

Tracks :
1. Calcutta Chiascuro.
2. Drifting.
3. Beckoning Hills.
4. Encounter at Madurai.
5. Daybreak at Baneras.
6. Sundar Bansuri.
7. Bittersweet.
8. B. N. R. [Bengal Nagpur Railway.]

If - Magical Sounds of Sitar: Niladri Kumar

Tracks
1. If you ever loved 8:45
2. Calling Ganesha 9:45
3. Ya-Man 10:59
4. Lukhnow 7:55
5. Haseen 8:43
6. Salute to Tradition 13:31
7. Khwab 5:40
8. IF 3:36

R

Hii...I've mostly the Vocal and Instrumental Raga Compositions

I've niladri kumar's "Revalation", and ronu majumdar's- "The Elements - Earth".
Will listen to the ones you mentioned.

You should also watch videos of Pandit Ravi Shankar performing at Monetary Pop Festival 1967-
YouTube - Ravi Shankar Pancham Se Gara part one monterey pop 1967
two parts, watch both.

How amazed those people are when listening to our music, and see Jimmy Hendrix at 6:14

Just took the plunge and bought the Pod X3 Live. Man is it great sounding!

^Congrats man!

Rishabh_sharma1990 said:
Hii...I've mostly the Vocal and Instrumental Raga Compositions
I've niladri kumar's "Revalation", and ronu majumdar's- "The Elements - Earth".
Will listen to the ones you mentioned.

You should also watch videos of Pandit Ravi Shankar performing at Monetary Pop Festival 1967-
YouTube - Ravi Shankar Pancham Se Gara part one monterey pop 1967
two parts, watch both.

How amazed those people are when listening to our music, and see Jimmy Hendrix at 6:14

thanks........

Indian Classical Music ???
Hmmm... I always wanted to learn and own a sitar but those things don't come for lefties because of half the country being full of superstitious idiots who believe the left hand is dirty and evil :evil:

Anyway, I tried playing guitar with sitar clips once. Was hard but sounded great.

Raaabo said:
Just took the plunge and bought the Pod X3 Live. Man is it great sounding!

Review with pics and vid please :))

Raaabo said:
Cool vids thetechfreak.

thanks a lot raabo really appreciate it

Anyone from Ambala here? Wanna buy a zoom G1N. If you know a genuine musical instrument shop where i can get it, please post the shop's add. in reply .

D

a friend of mine wants to buy a guitar...he's just going to start learning(doesn't even know the abc's yet)..so please suggest the best possible guitar that he can buy within Rs4000/-....if anyone is from mumbai, can you please suggest some good music stores around the andheri area? thank you.

himadri_sm said:
a friend of mine wants to buy a guitar...he's just going to start learning(doesn't even know the abc's yet)..so please suggest the best possible guitar that he can buy within Rs4000/-....if anyone is from mumbai, can you please suggest some good music stores around the andheri area? thank you.

You can look into Granadas and Plutos... can't get anything too good in that budget. I have a Granada PRD4 Acoustic which can be bought for 4k, and is a decent beginneer's guitar.

M

Nice to see so many people in the music scene.......

but I'm surprised no one out here poster that MIKE PORTNOY QUIT DREAM THEATER!!!!!!!!!
I dont think anyone can replace him.......but Thomas Lang is a worthy Candidate.....what say??!!

Mike Portnoy was a genius. Even if Lang can play all his parts, I don't think he can come up with drum parts as creative as Portnoy.

J

The main goal of an independent musician is getting the music out there. There is nothing more lethal to an artist of any sort than obscurity. Fortunately, the Internet has made it a lot easier for independent musicians. It is entirely possible for an indie musician to not only get their music heard, but to actually make a living from it, something that artists like Jonathan Coulton have proved. But in order to do so, you have to get your music distributed.

M

Psychosocial said:
Mike Portnoy was a genius. Even if Lang can play all his parts, I don't think he can come up with drum parts as creative as Portnoy.

yeah...i think that too....but it is a pity that this happened while I was still alive.....this generation has witnessed the greatest progressive band fall apart..............
Yeah,and the creativity and the 'portnoyedness' cannot be created again.....

.......and hey...catch me on fb...I'm Kislay Joshi..with Amd Phenom as profile pic....cheers..

metalhead said:
Nice to see so many people in the music scene.......
but I'm surprised no one out here poster that MIKE PORTNOY QUIT DREAM THEATER!!!!!!!!!
I dont think anyone can replace him.......but Thomas Lang is a worthy Candidate.....what say??!!

it's sad... but his heart was not into it
wish him success for his future..

metalhead said:
yeah...i think that too....but it is a pity that this happened while I was still alive.....this generation has witnessed the greatest progressive band fall apart..............
Yeah,and the creativity and the 'portnoyedness' cannot be created again..... .......and hey...catch me on fb...I'm Kislay Joshi..with Amd Phenom as profile pic....cheers..

Sent a req. Name's Paranj on FB.

Nice thread.
I play guitar and have a Cort EVL-Z4 with a VOX tonelab ST processor and a marshall amp which i hate. Gonna get a better amp soon along with a pedal

no one do DJeing

mixing, creating loops or beats.
i do all this stuff on PC never owned any instruments.
never shared my music online but here is 1 song i uploaded.
HipHop.wav - 4shared.com - music and mp3 sharing - download

lyrics doesn't make any sense.
its just some voices i added randomly.
my fav. genre to make beats are
Hiphop rap and old time disco ( BappiDA kind of )

^^I used to use audio editing software quite a lot. Ruining songs was my hobby

Now its restricted to more constructive stuff. Maybe I'll upload some of my stuff in some time...

Well i dont play instruments but i like listeing to songs of A.R. Reheman, Linkin Parks , Lata Mangeshkar !

S

Hello
I need a bit of guidance.
I am planning to buy a guitar. I'm a novice and i don't know how to play a guitar and what to look for in it. I'll take up a guitar course soon in some institute. Can u please help me out as to what all to look for in a guitar ? Also,is an electric or an acoustic guitar better for beginners ?
Thanx a lot

^^ Acoustic Giutars are played even by the worlds best guitarists. Hels keep proper fingering and strength in the fingers.

To begin, go to any local music shop and buy a full sized guitar for around Rs.1500. This range is best for beginners.

I play acoustic guitar.

Been 2.5 years but still can't compose a song or tune the guitar by ear

@axes2t2
I am playing keyboard from around 10 years back, not able to compose a song properly. Can add pieces of my own to a song.

I play Guitar around 2 years and sometimes manage to tune it by the ear

axes2t2 said:
I play acoustic guitar.

Been 2.5 years but still can't compose a song or tune the guitar by ear

same here....... :cry:

axes2t2 said:
I play acoustic guitar.

Been 2.5 years but still can't compose a song or tune the guitar by ear

What/who are your influences ? Do you know any theory ?

V

Am playing the keyboards since the last 14 years. Have cleared Grade 8 in Trinity College of Music, London, and have the Intermediate certificate(Grade 5) in Guitar.
Basically I prefer classical compositions. But having played in concerts in Delhi have good touch in Hindi songs.
My personal favourite composers are Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin. And Indian composers-Ilayaraja, RD Burman, AR Rahman.
I also listen to rock, metal, but not have performed in any Rock concerts.

Vignesh Iyer said:
Am playing the keyboards since the last 14 years. Have cleared Grade 8 in Trinity College of Music, London, and have the Intermediate certificate(Grade 5) in Guitar.
Basically I prefer classical compositions. But having played in concerts in Delhi have good touch in Hindi songs.
My personal favourite composers are Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin. And Indian composers-Ilayaraja, RD Burman, AR Rahman.
I also listen to rock, metal, but not have performed in any Rock concerts.

That's very good credentials! And great taste too. Dunno why you are having trouble composing your own songs... I dunno much theory, haven't passed any Trinity or Royal test and I still can compose my own songs!

V

Psychosocial said:
That's very good credentials! And great taste too. Dunno why you are having trouble composing your own songs... I dunno much theory, haven't passed any Trinity or Royal test and I still can compose my own songs!

Thanks.
By the way I never said, I can't compose songs...
It's good knowing that even tech Guru's know about Music and can compose songs. What type of music do you like?

Vignesh Iyer said:
Thanks.
By the way I never said, I can't compose songs...
It's good knowing that even tech Guru's know about Music and can compose songs. What type of music do you like?

Anything good. Mainly metal/rock/classical... although I'll listen to anything that sounds good to me.

M

Hello friends, I'm not a composer or an instrument player but I like singing....
Even I've recorded some songs using Audacity....
You can check the same @ facebook.com/anshulk2...

Been tinkering around with my guitar a little more now that I finally found some free time and the internet's been helping me quite a lot.

One thing I noticed was, compared to all these classes people take for guitar, which may be from a tutor who often lacks proper fundamentals, its better to learn online from reputed instructors. Its actually worth buying some of the courses online.

One site I liked was metalmethod.com which is run by Doug Marks who was a guitarist with an 80's glam metal band. His complete basic course is bloody awesome.

Another nice online course (this one is free too) is Arlen Roth's lessons hosted on gibson.com here: Gibson Guitar: Electric, Acoustic and Bass Guitars, Baldwin Pianos and it covers pretty much a lot of things.

^^ what are the best free acoustic guitar lessons?

ssk_the_gr8 said:
^^ what are the best free acoustic guitar lessons?

Check out the link I gave you on gibson.com you can play with acoustic for electric lessons too since what matters is that your hands coordinate well and you hit the right notes.

Infact its better to start with acoustic. And for other lessons look in youtube. There may be playlists with lessons from the start.

Me being a Keyboard player am telling that this performance by Adnan Sami is one of THE KEYBOARD PERFORMANCES EVER IN INDIA.

Learning guitar now

Tips and advice appreciated.

Faun said:
Learning guitar now

Tips and advice appreciated.

Just play/practice for 5-15 minutes but daily.

Emptiness :Rohan Rathore - Acoustic Cover
By me and my friend(singer)

Hothon se Choo lo Tum - Acoustic(cover)
By my friend

Comment,rate and subscribe

Coldplay - Scientist (Acoustic Cover)

Some riffs I made.

Intro :
B5(7th fret) C5
B5(7th fret) D5
B5(7th fret) C5
D5 C5 B5(2nd fret A string)

thetechfreak said:
Me being a Keyboard player am telling that this performance by Adnan Sami is one of THE KEYBOARD PERFORMANCES EVER IN INDIA.

adnan sami rocks on keyboard.

^^
Wait till you see this:

Hey....all musicians gone?
Anyway, here me trying to cover Hotel California (Hell freezes over live) (not complete)

I forgot to do a mirror image while recording. I am righty.

I play keyboard, harmonium, tabla. Have been learning since class 3rd, but had to stop it 6 yrs ago (after 10th)

Do your thing and post a video then.

Wow this thread is awesome.I think we have many musicians in this forum.

Intro to My Name Is Jonas by Weezer. I did this using fingerpicking:

Nice vids Desmond... Haven't played California in years. I miss those days when I used to have time to strum a guitar for hours

Thanks bro. Time is now becoming an issue for me too, so I go office early, return early and then jam.

I see you got some pretty decent gear. I'll put up mine too

nice finger picking Desmond

i have been playing guitar since last 10 months...
currently learning "nothing else matters"

I haz an acoustic beginner's guitar, a few minor key flutes.

maddy1205 said:
i have been playing guitar since last 10 months...
currently learning "nothing else matters"

I have been playing for 3 years, still not completed the intro till now

. Can play the solo though.

axes2t2 said:
nice finger picking Desmond

Thanks

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I have been playing for 3 years, still not completed the intro till now . Can play the solo though.

its a tough song to play....

Nope, it is actually very simple. But I am a lazy SOB

Also, I concentrate on so many songs to cover at once that I am not perfect in any of them (Jack of all trades situation). Can play them, but not very perfectly.

solo part is easy.....just started with intro...

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
But I am a lazy SOB

same here

I miss 'scratching' the guitar. All of you here please contribute and buy me a cheap guitar please, in return ill (umm) plant lots of saplings :-D

.

I love this tag

Currently im using my saved coins to buy food :mrgreen:

What do you mean scratching?

How much your budget? I suggest atleast have a budget of 5k. You can go for a jumbo body GB&A or a Pluto or a Granada. Stay away from Grason, Givson, Hobner or other **** like that.
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braindead said:
I miss 'scratching' the guitar. All of you here please contribute and buy me a cheap guitar please, in return ill (umm) plant lots of saplings .

I love this tag

Currently im using my saved coins to buy food

First start planting the saplings then and explain what do you mean by scratching.

Planted one today.

Scratching- Originated from the scratching sounds usually made while trying to play the guitar by a beginner :-D

Now who else is contributing.

Sungha jung is awesome!

I still don't get it.
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mentos kha!

Another one from me. Covering Toxicity by System Of A Down.

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Me covering Spieluhr by Rammstein. The first song that I covered full.

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My cover of Coming Back To Life by Pink Floyd. Just a noob cover.

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m a beginner to0...joined acoustic guitar classes 4 months back for 4months....used practice whenever I could get time...but now due to hectic office schedule...have lost touch....will pick it up again and also post my guitar pics

Even I am busy but I play at least one hour when I am home (and if I am not playing dota).
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^^... make a tutorial for beginner... and post it here... M also new and I m not in touch for continuous 3 months due to office schedule.
I am trying hard to learn. And not able to join any class due to certain problems.

Will see if I can make a video for it.
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bubusam13 said:
^^... make a tutorial for beginner... and post it here... M also new and I m not in touch for continuous 3 months due to office schedule.
I am trying hard to learn. And not able to join any class due to certain problems.

10 minutes daily.

That is all the time you need.

axes2t2 said:
10 minutes daily.

That is all the time you need.

+1

10 mins practicing more than enough. Thought I personally play at least 1 hour.

guys any good guitar videos/tutorials to learn from scratch ?

I have an old CASIO keyboard - MA-150 . I am mostly a noob. But I can play whatever my music teacher teaches me at school. Won 2 inter-school competitions till now

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Here i am in front of Vagdevi Villas School with my keyboard... Got second prize (no video available)

Guitar Lessons @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

This is where I used to learn. Though, I learned the basics from the my seniors in college.

Watch in sequence:

Practice those chords thoroughly. When you are confident of holding those chords, look for chords of songs to play on the net and try playing them. You will then pickup just like that. Reply if you have any doubts.

PS: Most important of all, you need to have a guitar

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Guitar Lessons @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

This is where I used to learn. Though, I learned the basics from the my seniors in college.

Watch in sequence:

Practice those chords thoroughly. When you are confident of holding those chords, look for chords of songs to play on the net and try playing them. You will then pickup just like that. Reply if you have any doubts.

PS: Most important of all, you need to have a guitar

good...........

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Will see if I can make a video for it.
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axes2t2 said:
10 minutes daily.

That is all the time you need.

I am practicing but not able to hit the correct string without looking, and even by looking I make lots of mistakes. And also not able to stretch my fingers of left hand, like reaching the 1st and 3rd fret together.

Use your ring finger for third fret.

bubusam13 said:
I am practicing but not able to hit the correct string without looking, and even by looking I make lots of mistakes. And also not able to stretch my fingers of left hand, like reaching the 1st and 3rd fret together.

dont get frustrated,it takes time(and im no master!).and guys its not the practice that'll make you perfect,its the 'perfect practice' that will make you almost perfect.just think like this-you play something,let it be a song,for about 100 times in which you play it wrongly for 95 times,then how can you expect it to be perfect at the 101 th time?so try not to make mistakes,coz music is all about hitting the right notes at the right time.so start to learn slowly and perfectly.always use a metronome,you can thank me later.know your weaknesses and strengths and choose the songs wisely,ie u can be happy knowing that you can play a simple song correctly rather be frustrated about what you cant play. and the golden rule in guitar is to never giue up playing(if u like playing).youve got a lifetime to play

.so enjoy playing.these are somethings ive recently learned abt playing guitar

bubusam13 said:
I am practicing but not able to hit the correct string without looking, and even by looking I make lots of mistakes. And also not able to stretch my fingers of left hand, like reaching the 1st and 3rd fret together.

Yup, you gotta start slow. Don't move to the other strings till you are confident that you got one string right. I'll assume that you are trying to do the chromatic scale exercise starting at the 6th string. Don't move to the 5th string till you get your fingers adjusted to the fret positions. If you think playing fret no. 1,2,3 and 4 is harder, try playing at fret nos. 7,8,9,10 or 5,6,7,8 and then move down the fretboard as you gain confidence. Remember to play the notes up-down-up-down, this way you won't injure your finger.
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Nanducob said:
dont get frustrated,it takes time(and im no master!).and guys its not the practice that'll make you perfect,its the 'perfect practice' that will make you almost perfect.just think like this-you play something,let it be a song,for about 100 times in which you play it wrongly for 95 times,then how can you expect it to be perfect at the 101 th time?so try not to make mistakes,coz music is all about hitting the right notes at the right time.so start to learn slowly and perfectly.always use a metronome,you can thank me later.know your weaknesses and strengths and choose the songs wisely,ie u can be happy knowing that you can play a simple song correctly rather be frustrated about what you cant play. and the golden rule in guitar is to never giue up playing(if u like playing).youve got a lifetime to play.so enjoy playing.these are somethings ive recently learned abt playing guitar

Okay, this reply is an acknowledgement that I have read what u said. And as asked, will thank you later.

@Desmond

ye teri

[YOUTUBE]_UWXEICE5ZY&[/YOUTUBE]

and ye meri

^^That's awesome cover of californication

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yup, you gotta start slow. Don't move to the other strings till you are confident that you got one string right. I'll assume that you are trying to do the chromatic scale exercise starting at the 6th string. Don't move to the 5th string till you get your fingers adjusted to the fret positions. If you think playing fret no. 1,2,3 and 4 is harder, try playing at fret nos. 7,8,9,10 or 5,6,7,8 and then move down the fretboard as you gain confidence. Remember to play the notes up-down-up-down, this way you won't injure your finger.
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Thanku... will practice n practice n practice

axes2t2 said:
@Desmond

ye teri

[YOUTUBE]_UWXEICE5ZY&[/YOUTUBE]

and ye meri

Guitarist chicks are so hot.

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heheh

tal wilkenfeld,my favourite

you people should focus more on music..nah just kidding hehehe

bubusam13 said:
Okay, this reply is an acknowledgement that I have read what u said. And as asked, will thank you later.

sorry if i sounded like a teacher :wink:

Found a new hobby in music production. Started learning a tool called LMMS, which is a free DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) which can create some pretty decent tunes and has an extensive library of FX, presets and instruments. Here is something I made while fooling around :

Trial and error by Desmond David on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

PS: Its Industrial since its one of my favourite genres.

gonna try it

have you guys heard abt 'Sungha Jung'...he is the youngest and best guitar player....always wanted to learn guitar since college...but he inspired me to go ahead with it...he is just amazing...check this out...

abhidev said:
have you guys heard abt 'Sungha Jung'...he is the youngest and best guitar player....always wanted to learn guitar since college...but he inspired me to go ahead with it...he is just amazing...check this out...

Pretty good stuff. Guys got talent.

^herman li as a kid

Nanducob said:
^herman li as a kid

Yeah, right

Besides, cannot compare this guy to Herman Li. That guy burns the fretboard. XD

Update : Learning music theory. What's the point of playing music when you don't know what you are playing

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yeah, right

Besides, cannot compare this guy to Herman Li. That guy burns the fretboard. XD

Update : Learning music theory. What's the point of playing music when you don't know what you are playing

good,playing some songs on guitar and knowing some theory are totally different

.i also studied some theory up to circle of fifths and got bored

.so ill be glad if some body here can share some theory they already know.like to start everything from the beggining.we can use the '' music theory the beggining '' guide from the ultimate guitar,which i think is more than enough for a begginer.so anyone

None of the Beatles' knew Music theory :-D

eggman said:
None of the Beatles' knew Music theory

Of course, music has no rules. But music theory helps you to understand music better and provides the means to share your music with others, i.e. in a notation others can understand.

eggman said:
None of the Beatles' knew Music theory

that may be the reason why their music is kindof 'basic'.but those who didnt knew any theory had atleast some idea about it like jimi hendrix etc.wont hurt knowing a little theory,but its hard to digest.all those ****ing scales,modes etc etc.i went for classes but they start from the beginning,ie playing those simple tunes like jingle bells etc again got bored and stopped going there

Is it okay to have 4 classes in a month?how often did you get the classes?(if youre going/went to classes)

Hendrix didn't know music theory either. He learned the guitar from scratch, on his own, without any instructor (In that order). That's why he is a guitar legend.

Actually, you don't need to know Music theory to make music, but you need it, if you want to tell others what you are playing or share it with others (provided they know something as well).

I am not going to any classes, I am learning on my own. I bought a book called "Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory" by Michael Miller. I read, do exercises and learn.

If you have the patience, this guy teaches free Music theory and he is pretty comprehensive:

This is the first video in the series:

Thanks for the link.the tutor is a nice guy and easy to understand.
There are many guitarists out there that are better than hendrix.even hendrix had openely said that he isnt the greatest guitarist since he said that he makes mistakes too often. So What made hendrix the ultimate guitar legend is his contributions to electric guitar n rock music.just some facts
-He popularised the tremelo and wah wah pedal
-used pedals and effects along with feedback and 'distortion'

,reverb.
-even a chord is named af ter him(hendrix chord)
-he destroyed his gear after the gig

which many bands would later mimic.
-his obscure stage antics.
-he played a right hand guitar upside down.
-he could play guitar with his teeth and behind his back(you can see it in bbc's voodo child documentary)
-ditched the image of a rock band by taking leads and vocals at the same time.
-His music was hardcore and heavy at that time,beatles were pussies

.
-that was the late 60's
in short he was ahead of the time and the god of guitar.

Nanducob said:
-even a chord is named af ter him(hendrix chord)

Which chord?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Which chord?

its a jazz chord.if youve played voodoo child its in there :wink:

Dominant seventh sharp ninth chord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so ive been playing with cheap picks earlier.2 days backs i bought the planet waves black ice picks
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its a great pick up and i never really knew a pick could improve my playing.its a 1.10mm heavy pick.its too small,since its a jazz pick,and you can barely see its in there :wink:

holding the pick was very comfortable
unlike the cheapo picks and the end a bit shapened.its made up of some fiber or something.now im probably going to buy the fender picks next time since theyre also highly rated.

also i found my truss rod adjusting thingy :mrgreen:

after a year since the ****er went missing.little bit rusted but ok :-D

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lowered the action and straightened the whole fret board.my playing has considerably improved since then :mrgreen:

I personally prefer JS Medium picks. I find stubby picks uncomfortable.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I personally prefer JS Medium picks. I find stubby picks uncomfortable.

how thick is it?

0.2-0.3 mm I think. But very comfortable. I also have a Jim Dunlop nylon pick with grip, but I find that uncomfortable as well.

must be very thin then.isnt it flexible?

Sorry, its around 0.7-0.8. That was of my JS thin picks. All of them are broken.

How ?wat song did u play

Many songs ranging from "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" to "Hammer Smashed Face".

Which guitar is better for a beginner in learning ? Cost and availability in Pune.

Faun said:
Which guitar is better for a beginner in learning ? Cost and availability in Pune.

GB&A,Pluto,Grason.

Around 3-5 k

^^thanks for the reply.

I find acoustic guitars a bit too unwieldy.

Can Electric guitar work without using amp and speaker ? If yes then,

I can have one within 15k budget but prefer to keep it under 10k.

Suggest a good one. I am thinking of Ibanez or Fender.

Faun said:
^^thanks for the reply.

I find acoustic guitars a bit too unwieldy.

Can Electric guitar work without using amp and speaker ? If yes then,

I can have one within 15k budget but prefer to keep it under 10k.

Suggest a good one. I am thinking of Ibanez or Fender.

What is the point of using an electric guitar without an amp?

If you are investing in an electric guitar, you will have to invest in an amp as well. Furtados Music Ltd. has pretty decent stock of both. Its situated near ABC farms in Koregaon Park.

You can get an Ibanez in around 15-16k, Fender will be way above your budget, you might get a Squier Strat at around 13k though. Since your budget is 10k, you can try for Greg Benett Avion series for about 11k and invest the rest in an amp. But you will probably get a shitty amp in 4k.

If you are a total noob, I'd suggest that you grind your teeth on an acoustic guitar first, learn the concepts, then move on to electric, 'cause playing electric guitar is a different ball game altogether.

Edit : The strats (Squier or Fender) usually (I mean, all that I have seen) have a Floyd-Rose tremolo bridge, which, even though very effective at maintaining tuning, is a pain in the ass to tune. So, you might want to take that into consideration before going in.

Edit : What do you want to play, BTW?

Edit : When you are ready to buy and if you feel like it, let me know and we could go together and check out some guitars.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
What is the point of using an electric guitar without an amp?

If you are investing in an electric guitar, you will have to invest in an amp as well. Furtados Music Ltd. has pretty decent stock of both. Its situated near ABC farms in Koregaon Park.

You can get an Ibanez in around 15-16k, Fender will be way above your budget, you might get a Squier Strat at around 13k though. Since your budget is 10k, you can try for Greg Benett Avion series for about 11k and invest the rest in an amp. But you will probably get a shitty amp in 4k.

If you are a total noob, I'd suggest that you grind your teeth on an acoustic guitar first, learn the concepts, then move on to electric, 'cause playing electric guitar is a different ball game altogether.

Edit : The strats (Squier or Fender) usually (I mean, all that I have seen) have a Floyd-Rose tremolo bridge, which, even though very effective at maintaining tuning, is a pain in the ass to tune. So, you might want to take that into consideration before going in.

Edit : What do you want to play, BTW?

Edit : When you are ready to buy and if you feel like it, let me know and we could go together and check out some guitars.

is it possible to get a guitar with fr trem under 15k?

some good acoustic guitars for begginers

plutos 3 to 5k
yamahas 6k to[good bang 4 buck]
ibanez aw30nt{you wont regret}

electric guitars
epiphone les pauls[low end]
ibanez grg series
ibanez grga series
esp ltd
yamaha pacifica series
sqiuer strats[not bullet]

indian company GB and A also has some good electric guitar.[didnt played,but my friend says].cort also has some good begginer guitars

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Many songs ranging from "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" to "Hammer Smashed Face".

hmmmm currently tryin to play ac dc back in black solo.its fun to play that song like ratm killing in the name...funky
...

Covered the solo from One by Metallica, partial cover though. Covered all tapping parts. Also covered "Am I Evil?" by Diamondhead yesterday (including tapping).

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
What is the point of using an electric guitar without an amp?

If you are investing in an electric guitar, you will have to invest in an amp as well. Furtados Music Ltd. has pretty decent stock of both. Its situated near ABC farms in Koregaon Park.

Yes, I will be buying amp sooner but first I like to get my hands on guitar. Amp will be of same budget 10k-15k. Budget can stretch too.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You can get an Ibanez in around 15-16k, Fender will be way above your budget, you might get a Squier Strat at around 13k though. Since your budget is 10k, you can try for Greg Benett Avion series for about 11k and invest the rest in an amp. But you will probably get a shitty amp in 4k.

I was going through the website and this one is quite a looker.
Buy Fender Electric Guitar Squier Affinity Strat Maple Neck 2tone Sunburst Online | Best Fender Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online
and this one too
Buy Ibanez Electric Guitar Grg 250dx Black Flat Online | Best Ibanez Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online

Also, reading on the woods used.
*www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
If you are a total noob, I'd suggest that you grind your teeth on an acoustic guitar first, learn the concepts, then move on to electric, 'cause playing electric guitar is a different ball game altogether.

I'd like to start with Electric Guitar. I guess that shouldn't be a problem.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Edit : The strats (Squier or Fender) usually (I mean, all that I have seen) have a Floyd-Rose tremolo bridge, which, even though very effective at maintaining tuning, is a pain in the ass to tune. So, you might want to take that into consideration before going in.

sure

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Edit : What do you want to play, BTW?

Mostly instrumental rock.
Listen to these:
Yasmin The Light by Explosions in The Sky
L'America by Mono (Japan)

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Edit : When you are ready to buy and if you feel like it, let me know and we could go together and check out some guitars.

[/quote]
Weekend after 15th of August. Let me know what you think.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Covered the solo from One by Metallica, partial cover though. Covered all tapping parts. Also covered "Am I Evil?" by Diamondhead yesterday (including tapping).

i heard the band Diamondhead are quite good.never heard any.socan you suggest me some of their songs that you find to be good?

Faun said:
Yes, I will be buying amp sooner but first I like to get my hands on guitar. Amp will be of same budget 10k-15k. Budget can stretch too.

I was going through the website and this one is quite a looker.
Buy Fender Electric Guitar Squier Affinity Strat Maple Neck 2tone Sunburst Online | Best Fender Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online
and this one too
Buy Ibanez Electric Guitar Grg 250dx Black Flat Online | Best Ibanez Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online

Also, reading on the woods used.
*www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm

I'd like to start with Electric Guitar. I guess that shouldn't be a problem.

sure

Mostly instrumental rock.
Listen to these:
Yasmin The Light by Explosions in The Sky
L'America by Mono (Japan)

Weekend after 15th of August. Let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]

the ibanez one youve listed is not worth the price tag of 27k.the grg or gio series are usually budget guitars in ibanez.dunno why its so pricey but you can get a real RG series(350,370 etc)which has wizard 3 thin necks,lo pro edge zero trem and slightly good pickups(INF).Dont know about the squier though.(original fender strats starts from 40k ithink)
If youre buying from your place you should definitely take Desmond with you and dont judge by the looks since there are shitty guitars that looks gorgeous

Nanducob said:
the ibanez one youve listed is not worth the price tag of 27k.the grg or gio series are usually budget guitars in ibanez.dunno why its so pricey but you can get a real RG series(350,370 etc)which has wizard 3 thin necks,lo pro edge zero trem and slightly good pickups(INF).Dont know about the squier though.(original fender strats starts from 40k ithink)
If youre buying from your place you should definitely take Desmond with you and dont judge by the looks since there are shitty guitars that looks gorgeous

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I'd not be buying anything out of impulsive urge. Surely need Desmonds and other people's help here to get the one which suits me.

This Mini Amp plug looks quite portable and got good reviews.

Faun said:
Yes, I will be buying amp sooner but first I like to get my hands on guitar. Amp will be of same budget 10k-15k. Budget can stretch too.

You can get a good one for far less. Around 7k you can get a Roland Micro Cube, which is more than what you need. It is light, portable and runs on batteries, so you can take it around with ease. Also, it has killer effects.

I own one.

Faun said:
I was going through the website and this one is quite a looker.
Buy Fender Electric Guitar Squier Affinity Strat Maple Neck 2tone Sunburst Online | Best Fender Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online
and this one too
Buy Ibanez Electric Guitar Grg 250dx Black Flat Online | Best Ibanez Electric Guitars in India | Furtados Online

Also, reading on the woods used.
*www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm

Yes the Affinity is pretty good, but it has only single coil pickups, good for playing clean tones. Get this if you don't plan on playing too much distortion or if you only want overdrive. I personally prefer the Ibanez. It has 2 Humbuckers and a single coil pickup and can handle a lot of distortion, ideal for metal and hard rock, but it has an EDGE III tremolo bridge, which is a license-built Floyd-Rose, so re-tuning it will be a problem (as stated earlier). It'd be better if we go and look them up in the shop.

As for the woods, Basswood and Poplar are good. Not sure about the others, but STAY AWAY FROM AGATHIS. It is really cheap quality wood used to make doors and windows.

Faun said:
I'd like to start with Electric Guitar. I guess that shouldn't be a problem.

No, it wouldn't be.

Faun said:
Weekend after 15th of August. Let me know what you think.

PM me when you ready and I will let you know if I am available then.

Nanducob said:
i heard the band Diamondhead are quite good.never heard any.socan you suggest me some of their songs that you find to be good?

You can start with "Am I Evil ?". If you listen to the vocalist, you will notice the similarity to James Hetfield's voice. Diamond Head is a great influence on Metallica. Metallica even covered "Am I Evil?".

Nanducob said:
the ibanez one youve listed is not worth the price tag of 27k.the grg or gio series are usually budget guitars in ibanez.dunno why its so pricey but you can get a real RG series(350,370 etc)which has wizard 3 thin necks,lo pro edge zero trem and slightly good pickups(INF).Dont know about the squier though.(original fender strats starts from 40k ithink)
If youre buying from your place you should definitely take Desmond with you and dont judge by the looks since there are shitty guitars that looks gorgeous

Because its the GRG250. The RG250 will be almost double of its cost.

Original Fender Strats cost around 80k last I checked. Someone I know got one second hand for 18k.

Faun said:
Thanks for the input. Yeah, I'd not be buying anything out of impulsive urge. Surely need Desmonds and other people's help here to get the one which suits me.

This Mini Amp plug looks quite portable and got good reviews.

It's not bad, but it has no gain control, no effects. Its just a vanilla amp with low power output, enough to drive small speakers or headphones. Its better that you get at least a modest cube amp, like the Roland I stated.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You can get a good one for far less. Around 7k you can get a Roland Micro Cube, which is more than what you need. It is light, portable and runs on batteries, so you can take it around with ease. Also, it has killer effects.

I own one.

Surely the one I'll be getting.

I wonder if I can plug in my portable amp and feed it to my earphones. Will that work ?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes the Affinity is pretty good, but it has only single coil pickups, good for playing clean tones. Get this if you don't plan on playing too much distortion or if you only want overdrive. I personally prefer the Ibanez. It has 2 Humbuckers and a single coil pickup and can handle a lot of distortion, ideal for metal and hard rock, but it has an EDGE III tremolo bridge, which is a license-built Floyd-Rose, so re-tuning it will be a problem (as stated earlier). It'd be better if we go and look them up in the shop.

I gave you the links of instrumentals before. Personally I am not into hard rock and metal. Lets have a look at the offering there in the shop. I have not much idea about it.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
PM me when you ready and I will let you know if I am available then.

Sure, weekend after 15 Aug. Will PM you.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It's not bad, but it has no gain control, no effects. Its just a vanilla amp with low power output, enough to drive small speakers or headphones. Its better that you get at least a modest cube amp, like the Roland I stated.

Good as a backup amp then.

Faun said:
Surely the one I'll be getting.

I wonder if I can plug in my portable amp and feed it to my earphones. Will that work ?

Yes, but its better to use headphones or the gain might ruin your earphones. You will also need a converter for the 3.5 mm jack to 6.35 mm.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes the Affinity is pretty good, but it has only single coil pickups, good for playing clean tones. Get this if you don't plan on playing too much distortion or if you only want overdrive. I personally prefer the Ibanez. It has 2 Humbuckers and a single coil pickup and can handle a lot of distortion, ideal for metal and hard rock, but it has an EDGE III tremolo bridge, which is a license-built Floyd-Rose, so re-tuning it will be a problem (as stated earlier). It'd be better if we go and look them up in the shop.

As for the woods, Basswood and Poplar are good. Not sure about the others, but STAY AWAY FROM AGATHIS. It is really cheap quality wood used to make doors and windows.

edge 3 is a below par trem..stay away from it.ever wondered why the new 2012 ibanez models have edge 2?if some guitar has an edge 3 its from 2011.on the other hand edge 2 zps is a good trem,even the 80 k premiums have it[slightly good hardware though]edge is ibanez's own technology,like the FR.metal acts like iron maiden,yngvie malmsteen etc always used strat

original american basswoods are found in high end ibanezs.mahagony is also quite good,the les pauls are mahagonies.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Y

Because its the GRG250. The RG250 will be almost double of its cost.

Original Fender Strats cost around 80k last I checked. Someone I know got one second hand for 18k.

rg 250s are discontinued i think.i meant its better to get an rg than a gio at that price range 0f 30 k like this rg.

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and fenders starts from 40 k like these ones

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You can start with "Am I Evil ?". If you listen to the vocalist, you will notice the similarity to James Hetfield's voice. Diamond Head is a great influence on Metallica. Metallica even covered "Am I Evil?".

thanks

Faun said:
Surely the one I'll be getting.

I gave you the links of instrumentals before. Personally I am not into hard rock and metal. Lets have a look at the offering there in the shop. I have not much idea about it.

i saw your videos.its kind of instrumental rock acoustic instrumental rock or mainstream rock and all you idols uses strats and telecasters.look no further than a basic strat or ibanez.

Nanducob said:
rg 250s are discontinued i think.i meant its better to get an rg than a gio at that price range 0f 30 k like this rg.

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I saw there are other variations of the base model .

With Bound Rosewood fingerboard
RG350EXZ - Ibanez Wiki
RG350DXZ - Ibanez Wiki

With Maple fingerboard
RG350MZ - Ibanez Wiki

Nanducob said:
i saw your videos.its kind of instrumental rock acoustic instrumental rock or mainstream rock and all you idols uses strats and telecasters.look no further than a basic strat or ibanez.

How are the above for this kind of music.

Someone in facepunch forum recommended against Affinity or Bullet series from Fender. Standard series is better. I kind of like the zero point tuning system and the HSH pickup in Ibanez.

Personally DXZ is better overall IMO.

@Desmond and NanduCob

Which guitar you guys have ?

I have a ibanez gsas 60 from the gio series,brought it second hand.not bad just a budget guitar

Ibanezes are considered as the most versatile guitars.Most of the guitars from gio up rg tremelo series have ibanez made pickups,like standard,powersound and inf.theyre neither good nor bad.U can always change the pickups to suite your genre that you like to play,like if you want to play metal you can select dimebuckers or sd blackouts,dimarzio evo for rock and so on.go to dimarzio.com.there is a pickup selector so that youll get an idea.So any(most of) guitar can be made versatile and be matched to suite your genre.Those with custom made pickups can be found in rg prestige and premium guitars,but they starts from 50-60k.the difference btw std guitars and prestige/premium is that they are made in japan with better craftmanship.

IIRC the rg 370 dxs are the most sold guitars of alltime from ibanez,total vfm.The guitars youve mentioned are almost same.and just Search for squier bullet then you'll know how bad it is.

Forget everything i said above,Since youre a begginer you can opt for any guitar as long as it is playable or you can buy a used guitar like me and save to buy an rg premium.or you can direcly buy a good guitar.if you intend to buy something around 30k range go with an rg 350 or 370 and change the pickups,later,then you ll be getting somewhat a premium guitar.i dont have any experience with single coil strats,but avoid the squier bullets.

And regarding the rosewood and maple fingerboards-its sure that it has an effect on the tone,but they should be mostly considered in terms of playability.you cant say one is better than another,it comes under 'preferences'.Youre just starting out.,so never mind

I used to have an Ibanez GRG170DX, it had a FAT 10 tremolo and HSH pickup config. It broke, so I bought a ESP LTD m-50. With this, I sacrificed 2 extra frets and the S pickup for better tone, because tone is everything in a guitar..

Thanks for the helpful inputs.

I am listing my options here:
IBANEZ:

RG350MZ
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RG350EXZ
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RG350DXZ
*www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2012/RG350DXZ_WH_1P_01.png

RG370DXZ
*www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2012/RG370DXZ_BK_1P_01.png

FENDER:

Classic Vibe Stratocaster® '50s
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Vintage Modified Stratocaster® HSS
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Deluxe Stratocaster®
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Which one of these will be versatile enough and can be modified later easy ? Easy tuning is required too. If you can recommend another one then that will fine too.

I am more leaning towards this:
Vintage Modified Stratocaster® HSS

The 350s and 370s are almost the same.i would say,pick the 370,if you dont like the scratch guard and it will be slightly better.(check out the rg 470s also)As i said above any guitar can be made versatile,and changing pickups is almost the same,for the fenders its just the single coil.

But IMHO the classic vibe strat looks damn ****ing sexy,

,and they will be more suited for your style.i will suggest you to watch musicians who use fender strats like Jeff beck(must watch),David gilmour,Eric clapton,eric Johnson,Ron wood(theyre more on the soft rock side) on youtube and see if you want that single coil tone or else go with the 370(Mr Vai,John petrucci etc )
Both guitars are good,actually.But it looks like youre raised your budget so my vote is for the fender classic strat

Yup the strat is good enough, all of them have vintage tremolos. I don't think you need the fat strat though for your kind of music, but it does help since it reduces humming.

Please note that the shop does not have a huge variety of models, so you may have to make do with whatever is the best over there. They have the Strat though.

Also note that looks are secondary and tone/attack is more important.

Edit : Do you have prior experience with guitars or you total noob?

@Nanducob
Classic Vibe 50s. I guess then that it is.

@Desmond
Probably they can source the guitar from other retailers ? I'll send them a mail for it's availability.

Do you know the guys at furtados ? I see that the same guitar goes for almost 10k bucks less in US.

I started out with acoustic back in 2011 dec but left it over there. Count me as a noob in present context.

^first go to shop and check out the prices,dont buy at first,do some research and buy

and yeah the prices are very high.the 370s actually cost around 350$.
here's a guy playing fender squier strat

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yup the strat is good enough, all of them have vintage tremolos. I don't think you need the fat strat though for your kind of music, but it does help since it reduces humming.

Please note that the shop does not have a huge variety of models, so you may have to make do with whatever is the best over there. They have the Strat though.

Also note that looks are secondary and tone/attack is more important.

Edit : Do you have prior experience with guitars or you total noob?

yeah looks are secondary its very temping when i see something nice like that strat

but we can shape tone by putting the right pickups,even dimarzio has those single coils,virtual vintage i think,and they claim it to have absolutely zero hum.

Nanducob said:
^first go to shop and check out the prices,dont buy at first,do some research and buyand yeah the prices are very high.the 370s actually cost around 350$.

Where do I see those prices in India ? :cry:

I guess I have to cut my losses and deal with prices.

Everyone is suggesting for to go for Classic Vibe for the kind of music I like.

Its very costly here,and it costlier since $ value is high,most online shops have increased up to 4k.And we cant take any chances importing something from musicianfriend etc.Imo the budget guitars are costly most high ends guitars are about same as U.S price,if not a little higher.

Nanducob said:
Its very costly here,and it costlier since $ value is high,most online shops have increased up to 4k.And we cant take any chances importing something from musicianfriend etc.Imo the budget guitars are costly most high ends guitars are about same as U.S price,if not a little higher.

Which high end ones are about same ?

Musicianfriend was recommended by another guy too but the import duties will probably make it costlier and the risk of damage is huge.

high end guitars like the rg premium and prestiges,high end schcters etc are about same IMO.but they start from 55 to 60k here and about 900$ @musicians friend.even if you import something from ebay it will be more than the original price,so its better to buy from india,

You can look up Thomann Cyberstore. These guys ship everywhere in the world and prices are quite reasonable. However, damage risk and after sales services can be a pain.

You can also look up bajaao.com for indian prices, but prices will more or less be the same.

^but wont they have to pass through the customs? and customs duty is around 29% or something.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I used to have an Ibanez GRG170DX, it had a FAT 10 tremolo and HSH pickup config. It broke, so I bought a ESP LTD m-50.

oh yeah,i remember that in your sig,someday back then.you seem to destroy

everything from the picks to guitars.how it broke?

Waiting from reply from Furtados about my query. Lets hope I get a good price.

Nanducob said:
^but wont they have to pass through the customs? and customs duty is around 29% or something.

oh yeah,i remember that in your sig,someday back then.you seem to destroy everything from the picks to guitars.how it broke?

Long story, actually got into a fight with some illiterate maggots and they thrashed it.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Long story, actually got into a fight with some illiterate maggots and they thrashed it.

You should have beaten the **** out of them with the same guitar.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Long story, actually got into a fight with some illiterate maggots and they thrashed it.

thats sad

.was it intentional or just an accident?

@Faun:any updates on your guitar?

@Faun:any updates on your guitar?

No response from furtados or Bajaoo. Pathetic online presence.

I guess I have to visit furtados on Saturday. Pretty sure that the one I want will not be available :/

Do you know any other location from where I can get Classic Vibe 50s stratocaster ?

Furtados is the only big shop that I know. I don't think you'd get it anywhere else. Besides, Guitar market in India sucks, so your options are already limited.

Faun said:
You should have beaten the **** out of them with the same guitar.

I still fantasize about exactly this it to this day....

Nanducob said:
thats sad.was it intentional or just an accident?

It was an accident, but the other party did not think so.

PS: It involved a bike accident with some maggots.

Faun said:
No response from furtados or Bajaoo. Pathetic online presence.

I guess I have to visit furtados on Saturday. Pretty sure that the one I want will not be available :/

Do you know any other location from where I can get Classic Vibe 50s stratocaster ?

Guitar Store India. FENDER SQUIER CLASSIC VIBE 50'S STRAT

dunno abt how good they are,seems to be a new store and little bit pricey.AFAIK Bajaoo is good,there is some option in their site to ask about a particular product,ive asked like that before and theyve replied within a day

heres your guitar

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Furtados is the only big shop that I know. I don't think you'd get it anywhere else. Besides, Guitar market in India sucks, so your options are already limited.

I still fantasize about exactly this it to this day....

It was an accident, but the other party did not think so.

PS: It involved a bike accident with some maggots.

ohhh..you could replace the neck if its broken.btw nice gamertag :evil:

Nanducob said:
Guitar Store India. FENDER SQUIER CLASSIC VIBE 50'S STRAT

dunno abt how good they are,seems to be a new store and little bit pricey.AFAIK Bajaoo is good,there is some option in their site to ask about a particular product,ive asked like that before and theyve replied within a day

heres your guitar

ohhh..you could replace the neck if its broken.btw nice gamertag

The body cracked and a huge chunk of it broke off. Also, neck got dislocated.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It was an accident, but the other party did not think so.

PS: It involved a bike accident with some maggots.

I know these people manhandle first and talk later. Bunch of idiots.

Bajoo increase the price by 1k since the time I asked query...lol.

Just called up furtados, they dont have the it. Will confirm it from their vendor and revert back. Lets see what we got there.

^they all seem to increase the price if we ask them.A month back i asked them about a mahagony rg 470 whether its a mij or mii.After 2,3 days they increased the price from 32k to 36k for the mahagony one and 1k for the ash one.b!tches.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
The body cracked and a huge chunk of it broke off. Also, neck got dislocated.

good for firewood then.how d you survived until you got a new guitar

Nanducob said:
good for firewood then.how d you survived until you got a new guitar

Back to the roots...acoustic.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Back to the roots...acoustic.

i miss my acoustic,had to sell for a electric

.

There will always be power cuts and batteries will run out of juice. That's why I didn't sell mine.

Got reply from Bajaao instead. Lets see if they can offer good price.

Classic Vibe 50 - out of stock :/

Hey, my cousin tells me that if you get something imported and it costs below 23k or so, it won't be subject to duty.

^^nah, that's a wishful thinking.

Damn, price of Classic Vibe 50 gone to 32k from 25k. Haha...what a joke.

*www.bajaao.com/shop/5-guitars/6-el...ic-vibe-stratocaster-50s-electric-guitar.html

Looks like I'll have to get it from UK then.

@Desmond
Any other good store like *thomann.de/ ?

^^ask guitarstore.in and saptaswaramusicals.com

Faun said:
^^nah, that's a wishful thinking.

Damn, price of Classic Vibe 50 gone to 32k from 25k. Haha...what a joke.

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Looks like I'll have to get it from UK then.

@Desmond
Any other good store like Thomann Cyberstore ?

No idea about any other stores. Thomann itself allows to choose where it wants to ship from.

Where do you stand?

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level 3,4,5,6

Faun said:
level 3,4,5,6

Woah! You more hardcore than me.

I'm 2,3,4. I've not tried beyond yet.

Pornogrind and jazz @ level 6.the sound tracks from 'cannibal holocaust are the most disturbing things i ever heard

Btw wtf is 'artpop'?

^^I just know noise-pop

^maybe its screamo-pop stupidest genre ever,listen to brokencyde on youtube.

Nanducob said:
Pornogrind and jazz @ level 6.the sound tracks from 'cannibal holocaust are the most disturbing things i ever heard
Btw wtf is 'artpop'?

Jazz is pretty mainstream to be at Level 6 I guess. I think it should be at level 3-4.

hmm contemporary jazz like herbie hancock and guitar oriented jazz like joe pass may be level 1,but stuff like miles davis,coltrane etc are very strange,we need to get stoned to understand the music fully

Folk at level 3?

^Maybe the author needed to fill those spaces.I guess the whole point of that picture is to show how much weirder a particular genre is.i dont know if its right but level 1 seems to be the top of a cliff

In reality there are weirdos in every genre.Lady gogo's fav band is iron maiden yet shes a pop artist.

I like Industrial. Only that no one else around me is interested.

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Found a nice article on how to practice.here's it How Many Hours a Day Should You Practice?

Nanducob said:
Found a nice article on how to practice.here's it How Many Hours a Day Should You Practice?

Pretty good article. Thanks for sharing.

^^welcome.

btw check this out
wow such a sexy peice of wood dipped in psychic colours :mrgreen:

.skip to 6:56.

guys...need a little help here...one of my frnd wants to buy an electric guitar...which one should he go for...his budget including amp is not more than 10k

^in India a 10k budget wont get you a decent setup,but you can get a good guitar like yamaha pacifica series,epiphone les paul,cort or even an Ltd m 10 for around 10k.Better buy the guitar and save up for the amp,later.However there are indian brands like GB&A,Givson-not bad for a starter,though its better to invest on some intl brand.and lastly
Is he sure that he wants an electric?coz he could get some nice acoutic guitars for that price

abhidev said:
guys...need a little help here...one of my frnd wants to buy an electric guitar...which one should he go for...his budget including amp is not more than 10k

Though it is quite possible to get a Guitar/amp combo in that price, I'd recommend that you don't and save up a little more. At 11k you can get an entry level Greg Bennett Avion, which has pretty decent tone and go in for a Marshall MG-10CD amp for about 3.5k (I think).

If you still insist on a lower budget, you can get some brand like Java and some amp like Stranger within that budget, but be advised that both sound like sh1t (trust me, I know).

Nanducob said:
^in India a 10k budget wont get you a decent setup,but you can get a good guitar like yamaha pacifica series,epiphone les paul,cort or even an Ltd m 10 for around 10k.Better buy the guitar and save up for the amp,later.However there are indian brands like GB&A,Givson-not bad for a starter,though its better to invest on some intl brand.and lastly
Is he sure that he wants an electric?coz he could get some nice acoutic guitars for that price

I hope you are talking about a second hand Epiphone Les Paul, because an Epiphone Les Paul starts from 27k. Yeah, the ESP LTD-M10 is a good choice, alongside the F10 Grassroot model. Both cost around 10-11k. Yes, it is theoretically right to buy the guitar first and then get an amp, but practically, if you have no means of obtaining (borrowing) an amp, you will have nothing to do with your guitar for an indefinite amount of time. So, I recommend that it is better to get a guitar/amp combo for beginners.

Edit :

Check this out :

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thanx guys for the input...as he is new to guitars...he is now not able to decide whether he wants an acoustic or electric...can you guys help him decide???

Im sorry,By les paul i meant the cheapest epiphone-special lp-around 12k,it has got some good recommendations at forums as a starter guitar.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Check this out :

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Cool and it has got a lot of strings

.Vai has one of those kind flashy guitars with it he plays 'Building the church'

abhidev said:
thanx guys for the input...as he is new to guitars...he is now not able to decide whether he wants an acoustic or electric...can you guys help him decide???

Obviously it depends on what he really wants to play.Both has its own pros and cons(not really).
Both are fine for a starters though.I started on acoustic,its a little tougher than electric,i will say.
Ill say Buy the acoustic if hes not sure,cant be wrong.Recently i went to my local shop,i played the yamaha acoustics namely f 270(not sure) and f 310.and wow They were really very nice guitars,for 7-9k they are definitely bang for buck.Cort also has some nice ones,though i havent tried-check youtube.
Or if he is okay with a used guitar,ill suggest going for it rather buying new.

That's how you play a fretless guitar.

@ Nanducob thats what even I suggested...since even I own one....and it would be good for learning too

^Go for it,then.IMO better to buy used in this budget if its electric,or opt for a nice new acoustic

^^Acoustics are little harder to learn than electric so,for beginners I suggest Acoustics coz once learn he can play any guitar acoustic or electric...

Zangetsu said:
^^Acoustics are little harder to learn than electric so,for beginners I suggest Acoustics coz once learn he can play any guitar acoustic or electric...

Not always true.Both have their own 'hard'nesses.If 'hardness' is the deciding factor then he should first play those wind/brass instruments,then playing the guitar would be a walk in the park.Better musical instruments=easy to play.However,most instruments are easy to play,but hard to master.

^true that

Nanducob said:
Not always true.Both have their own 'hard'nesses.If 'hardness' is the deciding factor then he should first play those wind/brass instruments,then playing the guitar would be a walk in the park.Better musical instruments=easy to play.However,most instruments are easy to play,but hard to master.

AFAIK playing a Barre Chord in Electric is easier than Acoustics...correct me on this.
bcoz of their size and shapes..electric feels more comfy for new comers than the acoustics

also there are genres that sounds most beautiful on electric and some on acoustics...
e.g: blues,jazz sounds amazing on electric

Zangetsu said:
AFAIK playing a Barre Chord in Electric is easier than Acoustics...correct me on this.
bcoz of their size and shapes..electric feels more comfy for new comers than the acoustics

also there are genres that sounds most beautiful on electric and some on acoustics...
e.g: blues,jazz sounds amazing on electric

I don't find much difference holding barre chords, probably it depends upon the guitar. I still recommend acoustics for beginners, simply because of the price factor. Most people are not very serious or not very interested. Most just are just poseurs. So, learning on an acoustic will help them gauge how much they want to learn and how serious they are without much expense. If they decide to stop learning later, there is not much loss.

Zangetsu said:
AFAIK playing a Barre Chord in Electric is easier than Acoustics...correct me on this.
bcoz of their size and shapes..electric feels more comfy for new comers than the acoustics

also there are genres that sounds most beautiful on electric and some on acoustics...
e.g: blues,jazz sounds amazing on electric

AFAIK barre chords are harder to play since it needs some good finger strength,because we are using our index finger to hold on all strings.people who follows the 'classical approach' in holding the left hand will find it more easier,but for an absolute begginer its difficult,maybe electric have a slight advantage over there.
Blues can be played in electric,like SRV or on acoustic guitars like john mayers,it can be played in harmonica/mouth organ,piano etc-thats why there is the blues scale,i guess.Dont know much about jazz,but i guess it can also be played in variety of instruments.but i ve seen 'jazz guitarists' using the hollow body guitars,mainly Joe pass,wes montgomery etc.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I don't find much difference holding barre chords, probably it depends upon the guitar. I still recommend acoustics for beginners, simply because of the price factor. Most people are not very serious or not very interested. Most just are just poseurs. So, learning on an acoustic will help them gauge how much they want to learn and how serious they are without much expense. If they decide to stop learning later, there is not much loss.

yes,ive some experiences.my jnrs after getting drunk will come to me and ask me to teach guitar.im no master but i know some chords and such ..and ive tried to teach them..not even a single guy have lasted more than a week,dont know maybe its my teaching.lol and some guy even brought a new guitar but its now rusting in the kitchen

.

SOme killer Amps,found mainly in some rich kids' toilet and then some musicians.

Framus cobra FTW

Nanducob said:
SOme killer Amps,found mainly in some rich kids' toilet and then some musicians.

Framus cobra FTW

I personally like the Mesa Boogie because my amp has an amp model based on it

Classical masterpieces covered it metal :

love this guy :-D

Anyone know the price of Takamine acoustic guitars ?

Search in bajaoo.com/furtadosonline

R

Since all you guitarists hang out here more, I will post here as well.

Looking for a guitar with a 1/4" output jack to connect it with laptop/PS3. Do not want pure electric ones, as I won't be getting amplifier at present and they won't sound good without amp.

Don't want them to sound weak too when played without amps, so, are semi-acoustic or electro-acoustic a good choice? Any suggestions upto 4K? Brand etc. doesn't matter.

Givson guitars Delhi, Guitar Shop, Guitar dealer in new delhi, buy Guita

Gibtone 2 in 1 Electric Guitar

How are these two in terms of connectivity? Any ideas?

Thanks.

Nanducob said:
Search in bajaoo.com/furtadosonline

Search in bajaoo.com/furtadosonline

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axes2t2 said:
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I just bought a Behringer tremolo pedal from Bajaao. The cheapest I could find. Hope to get it anytime now.

First thing I am going to do after I receive it is to make a video cover of Boulevard Of Broken Dreams.

axes2t2 said:
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lol.nice website

REY619 said:
Since all you guitarists hang out here more, I will post here as well.

Looking for a guitar with a 1/4" output jack to connect it with laptop/PS3. Do not want pure electric ones, as I won't be getting amplifier at present and they won't sound good without amp.

Don't want them to sound weak too when played without amps, so, are semi-acoustic or electro-acoustic a good choice? Any suggestions upto 4K? Brand etc. doesn't matter.

Givson guitars Delhi, Guitar Shop, Guitar dealer in new delhi, buy Guita

Gibtone 2 in 1 Electric Guitar

How are these two in terms of connectivity? Any ideas?

Thanks.

what songs/genre are you going to play?Or Are you just starting out?

Thanks for the links.

Just want a nice acoustic.

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Nanducob said:
what songs/genre are you going to play?Or Are you just starting out?

It is just the beginning.

Then pick up a GB&A one for appx 4-5k. Get back to you on options.

@Desmond

Can you put up pics of your GB&A ?

Cant find any reviews on these.must be a new comp.atleast they look good in those pictures Hertz HzA-4102

REY619 said:
It is just the beginning.

hi,
if you can increase the budget up to 6.5k,I will suggest you to go for an acoustic guitar like yamaha,cort etc since they will make the learning easier.if you want to 'just' try out the electric sounds,you can install a pickup on the acoustic one

axes2t2 said:
@Desmond

Can you put up pics of your GB&A ?

That would be hard considering my guitar is at home (in my hometown). This is from one of my older FB profile pics : *sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533777_3516028948308_1668406566_n.jpg

Its not complete though.

Nanducob said:
Cant find any reviews on these.must be a new comp.atleast they look good in those pictures Hertz HzA-4102

hi,
if you can increase the budget up to 6.5k,I will suggest you to go for an acoustic guitar like yamaha,cort etc since they will make the learning easier.if you want to 'just' try out the electric sounds,you can install a pickup on the acoustic one

Yes, not only do they sound good unplugged, you can use a pickup if you want to try some effects or want to do a gig.

Hi guys...

please give some good tutorial on strumming with a pick...
coz I saw pick holding tutorials & can strum only down strokes properly the up strokes are not good (as High-E string is obstructing it)
but if I hold the pick from end exposing more of the surface then I can strum good (both up/down) but problem is the pick tends to slip away slowly

R

Thank you guys. Will go for acoustic one then.

If connectivity is required later, will attach a pickup.

Thanks.

Nice thread! Seems like TDF's becoming a Hypermarket - For all your needs. :-D

Anyways, I longed for an acoustic guitar. I don't have any idea about guitars, but would like to buy one and learn it too. Can anyone help me with buying one suggesting good brands, places to buy from (in Delhi), approx prices, etc. AFAIK, the Daryaganj area here in Delhi has a host of musical instruments stores, but they, probably will sell out for a premium and also, there might be a chance that some will try to dupe noobs into buying fakes.

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys...

please give some good tutorial on strumming with a pick...
coz I saw pick holding tutorials & can strum only down strokes properly the up strokes are not good (as High-E string is obstructing it)
but if I hold the pick from end exposing more of the surface then I can strum good (both up/down) but problem is the pick tends to slip away slowly

hey mate,the problem with upsrokes/strumming up is that you have to work againest the gravity,thats why its difficult,but it improves with time.infact upstrokes are difficult to master.See some Marty Friedman videos,he is the king of upstrokes,but his hand position is unorthodox.it wont help you much,just see

Also the pick matters.I will post some videos i used for reference ,as soon as i get back home.

REY619 said:
Than you guys. Will go for acoustic one then.

If connectivity is required later, will attach a pickup.

Thanks.

Happy guitar-ing !It will be the happiest day in your life,as it was for me

CyberKID said:
Nice thread! Seems like TDF's becoming a Hypermarket - For all your needs.
Anyways, I longed for an acoustic guitar. I don't have any idea about guitars, but would like to buy one and learn it too. Can anyone help me with buying one suggesting good brands, places to buy from (in Delhi), approx prices, etc. AFAIK, the Daryaganj area here in Delhi has a host of musical instruments stores, but they, probably will sell out for a premium and also, there might be a chance that some will try to dupe noobs into buying fakes.

i dont know much abt shops in delhi,but if you intend to buy online-
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last two mentioned stores are located @ delhi.Dont buy for the first time,compare and see whats good.Branded guitars have serial no:s printed around the headstock,so dont worry.just my 2 cents.wait for others suggestions

R

Nanducob said:
Happy guitar-ing !It will be the happiest day in your life,as it was for me

Yes! I am beginning to feel it already!

*i.imgur.com/36YIb.jpg

axes2t2 said:
*i.imgur.com/36YIb.jpg

I find this strangely familiar. Whenever I cover something I don't have much trouble, but when I try to make something on my own, it always sounds shitty. This discourages me a lot. After seeing this, I feel I need to practice more.

Have you ever had guests or dumbass friends come over to your house and ask "Oh you have a guitar,how many songs you can play ?"

YOU DON'T ASK US HOW MANY SONGS WE CAN PLAY,ASK THAT TO THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN UP ON GUITAR AND HAVE THEM JUST HANGING ON THEIR WALLS !!!!!!

axes2t2 said:
Have you ever had guests or dumbass friends come over to your house and ask "Oh you have a guitar,how many songs you can play ?"

YOU DON'T ASK US HOW MANY SONGS WE CAN PLAY,ASK THAT TO THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN UP ON GUITAR AND HAVE THEM JUST HANGING ON THEIR WALLS !!!!!!

Well, I've had guests and friends over who demand me to play some random song I have no idea about and expect me to know it. Left me **** face on several occasions. If I try to impro, they all have poker faces, having not a single clue what I am doing.

It does break my heart to see people who just learn guitar just for style or to impress some random chicks.

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys...

please give some good tutorial on strumming with a pick...
coz I saw pick holding tutorials & can strum only down strokes properly the up strokes are not good (as High-E string is obstructing it)
but if I hold the pick from end exposing more of the surface then I can strum good (both up/down) but problem is the pick tends to slip away slowly

Nanducob said:
i dont know much abt shops in delhi,but if you intend to buy online-
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last two mentioned stores are located @ delhi.Dont buy for the first time,compare and see whats good.Branded guitars have serial no:s printed around the headstock,so dont worry.just my 2 cents.wait for others suggestions

Thanks a ton for the reply. I have no reservations buying online, but somehow I feel, these things should be bought locally after physically checking/trying them (may be I'm wrong here). Just had a question unanswered. About the brands I should consider.

R

Guys, to tune the guitar correctly, should I get a tuner separately?

Also there are hundreds of apps on Android market that turn your phone into a digital tuner, do they work fine? Has anyone tried?

@Nanducob: Thanks for the video..I know that man (David Taub) seen many of his videos...
i'll see if that helps me what I posted above (my problem with upstrokes??)

REY619 said:
Guys, to tune the guitar correctly, should I get a tuner separately?

Also there are hundreds of apps on Android market that turn your phone into a digital tuner, do they work fine? Has anyone tried?

Yes,I am using the one named Gstrings.

But it would be better if you untune your guitar and tune it your self by listening to some online tuning samples.

Also always untune your guitar when not playing coz the guitar bends due to tension.

axes2t2 said:
Yes,I am using the one named Gstrings.

Gstings is good tuner app...
I use ClearTune on my IpodTouch

axes2t2 said:
Also always untune your guitar when not playing everday coz the guitar bends due to tension.

corrected

R

Thanks for the tip, @axes and Zangetsu

And yes I got gStrings too, seems fine.

REY619 said:
And thanks for the tip. Should I untune it daily or only if left idle for a specific long period?

If u play guitar daily then no need to untune...if u play after long time like 3~5 days gap then u shud untune

R

Zangetsu said:
If u play guitar daily then no need to untune...if u play after long time like 3~5 days gap then u shud untune

Thanks, I posted earlier after axes's reply, then saw your reply and edited my post.

Will untune if there is a gap of 2+ days then.

CyberKID said:
Thanks a ton for the reply. I have no reservations buying online, but somehow I feel, these things should be bought locally after physically checking/trying them (may be I'm wrong here). Just had a question unanswered. About the brands I should consider.

yeah its good to buy locally,go with some one who knows abt guitars,but it will be a little costlier.Dont buy on the first visit,ask prices and search online if the prices are reasonable or not.
Good brands for beginner acoustic guitar are Yamaha,Cort.Yamaha f 270/310.Also look at the newer Yamaha Fs series,if theyre available.costs b/w 6-9k.Theyrall bang for yer buck.
A little bit cheaper options would Pluto,Granada etc.Dont shell out more than 10k on a acoustic guitar,if u are starting out.Other famous brands like Ibanez,Gibson,Esp have good guitars but theyre more than 10k-ish.
Personally i ve tried the Yamahas,they are nicely built(for the price) and 'fun' to play.

REY619 said:
Thanks, I posted earlier after axes's reply, then saw your reply and edited my post.

Will untune if there is a gap of 2+ days then.

Untune for a gap of more than 1 week. Also, untune if you are going to travel long distance with your guitar.

R

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Untune for a gap of more than 1 week. Also, untune if you are going to travel long distance with your guitar.

Great! thanks.

So it is safe to store upto 6-7 days in tune.

lol it wont bend too much even if you doesnt untune for months ! So you got the guitar? Eh?

Zangetsu said:
@Nanducob: Thanks for the video..I know that man (David Taub) seen many of his videos...
i'll see if that helps me what I posted above (my problem with upstrokes??)

yup there are some nice teachers on youtube.Checkout Marty Schwartz channel 'Guitar Jamz'.Its very noob friendly,and h really loved it,when ive started out.

There maybe some more detailed video in youtube about strumming and about holding picks and positioning.but Let me tell you something,when someone first starts on guitar theyll get frustrated,because they cant do like the experienced and some problems will be like

'i cant pick the string without looking it'
'i am not able to mute the low strings while playing a D'
'i cant properly play a barre chord'
etc..etc

They say because,
They havent practised enough and they dont have the muscle memmory and they have less finger strength.
Think like this- you started on guitar and youve played for only one month,and after one month when you want to play an A chord
youre going to finger much more quicker than,lets say,when you started on the first day..isnt it!. ie you dont need to think that you have to press on the strings at the second frets -theyll happen naturally,after sometime.This applies for everything.Also You cant just practice upstrokes alone,instead play various patterns as in the video,watch his movements,like he is using his elbow for strumming and such..i guess just needs some practice and youre good to go

R

Haven't got yet, maybe in next 2 days.

And yes I saw Marty Schwartz videos, they are good.

^you need to maintain this enthusiasm through the upcoming years

and youll be good at guitar ! good luck !

REY619 said:
Great! thanks. So it is safe to store upto 6-7 days in tune.

Yeah, but always check tuning before you play.

Nanducob said:
yeah its good to buy locally,go with some one who knows abt guitars,but it will be a little costlier.Dont buy on the first visit,ask prices and search online if the prices are reasonable or not.
Good brands for beginner acoustic guitar are Yamaha,Cort.Yamaha f 270/310.Also look at the newer Yamaha Fs series,if theyre available.costs b/w 6-9k.Theyrall bang for yer buck.
A little bit cheaper options would Pluto,Granada etc.Dont shell out more than 10k on a acoustic guitar,if u are starting out.Other famous brands like Ibanez,Gibson,Esp have good guitars but theyre more than 10k-ish.
Personally i ve tried the Yamahas,they are nicely built(for the price) and 'fun' to play.

Thanks, again. Will do some research on the brands and their prices and also on some teaching schools/people on my way back from office to home.

R

Nanducob said:
^you need to maintain this enthusiasm through the upcoming years and youll be good at guitar ! good luck !

Thank you.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yeah, but always check tuning before you play.

Yes, will do.

this is awesome

Gibson.com: Gibson Les Paul Standard

^nice i like the SG gothic morte.

^nice i like the SG gothic morte.

Zangetsu said:
this is awesome

Gibson.com: Gibson Les Paul Standard

That blue waali,I want to make her squeal.

I cannot afford them without selling my kidney :'(

Edit : Do we have anyone in the house who is good at effect pedals?

I dont have any experience with pedals,buy one and tell us,im curious

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I cannot afford them without selling my kidney :'(

Edit : Do we have anyone in the house who is good at effect pedals?

Haha..its costlier than Nano...

Nanducob said:
I dont have any experience with pedals,buy one and tell us,im curious

No, I was having some doubts. I placed the Tremolo pedal before the delay with no pre-amp or overdrive. The delay comes from my amp alongwith the overdrive. Now, the delay gets applied to each Tremolo "chop", something that I don't like. So, I wanted to know if there was anyway to circumvent this.

Check this BB King custom Les Paul with gold plated hardware :

*images.gibson.com/Lifestyle/English/aaFeaturesImages2009/custom-shop-001.jpg

Sorry man,dont know abt it,only thing i know is reverb and distortion

btw that guitar is classic .

Bought a new guitar last month , with ideas of learning it.
Don't have time for guitar classes , now Its lying idle. Don't know where to start , though I tried playing a couple of songs , and somehow managed it. But still can't figure out the right way.
Any suggestion guys , on the easiest and best way to learn it ??

I've posted a couple of videos elsewhere in this thread. Look them up.

My suggestions, first learn to hold these chords : A D E and learn to shift between them. Then move on to G C D. This will take a lot of time so be patient.

Rishi. said:
Bought a new guitar last month , with ideas of learning it.
Don't have time for guitar classes , now Its lying idle. Don't know where to start , though I tried playing a couple of songs , and somehow managed it. But still can't figure out the right way.
Any suggestion guys , on the easiest and best way to learn it ??

u need a hell lot of patience to learn guitar...if u don't want to end up frustrated and hanging guitar on wall as show piece...

David Taub guitar lessons on youtube
and justinguitar.com are the best I've seen

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I've posted a couple of videos elsewhere in this thread. Look them up.

My suggestions, first learn to hold these chords : A D E and learn to shift between them. Then move on to G C D. This will take a lot of time so be patient.

Thanks , I tried holding the strings and frets and practised a little bit.
Pressing strings are quite difficult , however I guess I will get used to it.
What makes me freak out is that Its too hard to switch instantly to another note/chord.

I tried a song : "Tujhe dekha toh yeh jana ..." , and "Ek hasina thi..Ek dewaana.". Saw notes and took some input from Net.

Zangetsu said:
u need a hell lot of patience to learn guitar...if u don't want to end up frustrated and hanging guitar on wall as show piece...

David Taub guitar lessons on youtube
and justinguitar.com are the best I've seen

That is what I am afraid of and Thats why thought of giving some time to it.

Thanks for the link , will check them today.

Btw , downloaded a Android Guitar tuner application to tune it. Although have no idea about tuning .

^you can learn instantly buy looking at notes etc..
u have to learn chords first (chord theory & progressions)

Learn Basic Chords first (even with basic chords u can play more than 100 of songs or may be 1000)
A,E,Em,D,C,G,Am,F are all basic chords

F is a bit more difficult that the others.

@Rishi.Also checkout Marty schwartz youtube channel 'GuitarJamz'.
try to play this: Jingle Bells tab by Misc Christmas @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com
im sure youll learn this before christmas

and this: Happy Birthday tab by Misc @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com youll learn before your birthday

lol
and
keep on practising chords.good luck.

Nanducob said:
@Rishi.Also checkout Marty schwartz youtube channel 'GuitarJamz'.
try to play this: Jingle Bells tab by Misc Christmas @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com
im sure youll learn this before christmas

and this: Happy Birthday tab by Misc @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com youll learn before your birthdaylol
and
keep on practising chords.good luck.

Thanks Man , actually Birthday and Christmas comes within a GAP of Day.

,
I guess will have to learn both of them ASAP.

Btw , do we need to pluck the string upward or downward ???

Zangetsu said:
^you can learn instantly buy looking at notes etc..
u have to learn chords first (chord theory & progressions)

Learn Basic Chords first (even with basic chords u can play more than 100 of songs or may be 1000)
A,E,Em,D,C,G,Am,F are all basic chords

I am Trying to practice them. Spending some time on guitar websites.

^down up down up down up down

First of all before you jump, do exercises to ensure that your hands can be stretched out enough. You can do so by taking your finger no. 1,2,3,4 (4 is the pinky) and place it on the 5,6,7,8 frets on the low E string (topmost/thickest string). Play each fret with each corresponding finger while picking up and down alternately. This will ensure that you remain in flow and your right hand does not get stressed. Start out slow, no need to rush. Also, ensure that all notes sound clear and not dull. If it sounds dull, just press down harder (this might hurt your fingers, but you will have to endure it for now. Take breaks between sessions). Once you've gotten a hang of that, try the same on the next string and so forth till your fingers get free. I know that it is not the most enjoyable thing to do and that it takes a lot of time to master, but trust me that it will help you in the long run. Remember that there are no shortcuts.

As for tuning, I guess you are using daTuner to tune. Ensure that the tuning is in this sequence for the corresponding strings from top to bottom : E2 A3 D3 G3 B3 E4. Its ok to break strings once in a while while tuning, just remember to keep a spare set handy.

^ 1 to chromatic exercises.Also listen to some guitar oriented music(english),if you havent.Youll get thousands of songs that sounds good even if its easy to play-like Pink Floyd-wish you were here,Bob Marley-Redemption Song etc..but only after learning some chords..

@Rishi: don't jump to complex chords...start from basics and make that strong.
Guitar Learning is lifetime learning (it never gets old u know)

Remember this "Practice the right thing makes Perfect"

start from here its the best layman lesson I found
*guitar.about.com/library/blguitarlessonarchive.htm

Thanks guys , you are helping me a lot. In fact am feeling more confident about learning them.
Will keep coming to the thread for help . And questions .
Thanks , again.

And btw , I have bookmarked those linked. Will definitely check them.

Guys, I am looking for a good guitar instructor in Pune. I need someone experienced in virtuosic techniques and music theory and not someone who teaches Bollywood crap with 7-8 Chords.

Any leads?

^lol,fed up with those desi tutors?

Dude, I've had no tutors. All I learned, I learned on my own so far. But self learning is very slow and you tend to make mistakes.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Dude, I've had no tutors. All I learned, I learned on my own so far. But self learning is very slow and you tend to make mistakes.

for how long u have been learning?

Since 2nd Year engineering. That's close to 4 years now.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Since 2nd Year engineering. That's close to 4 years now.

so u must be well versed in Open Chords,Bar Chords,Arpeggios,Riffs,Licks & Blues

I can do open chords and barre chords without problems, my grip is a little weak though. I mainly like to play lead and I like to do some impro on the Pentatonic, blues and minor scales. I can do some two string arpeggios and tap arpeggios but I've not practiced this much. Only riffs and licks I know are from assorted songs.

Check my youtube for a few of my videos : *www.youtube.com/user/dessavio/videos

^gr8...

well I have seen Arpeggios but gets always confused when it comes to playing it...
there are many arpeggios like the C Major Arpeggio scale...but again I get confused (may be bcoz in theory understanding)
but wud love to learn them one day...

Dude, an arpeggio is nothing but playing the notes of a particular chord in a broken fashion. So, if you play the 0th, 3rd and 5th frets (in any sequence), you have just played the C major arpeggio, because you are playing the notes from the C major chord (C-E-G) . Similar for other different chords. You can also extend it beyond the octave to make it longer.

^yes and which strings?

is there any 0th fret?

basically we need to know the fretboard to be able to play arpeggio

Isnt it root(1) major(3) perfect(5) for major scale?just refered some music theory lesson..

@Desmond

Some links where we could learn arpeggio's and scales would be nice.

Pretty please with sugar,spice and everything nice on top.

I use this lesson,dont have arpeggios,but some scales.Learning Music Theory. The Beginning | Lessons @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Zangetsu said:
^yes and which strings?

is there any 0th fret?

basically we need to know the fretboard to be able to play arpeggio

The 0th Fret is the open fret...duh! And I was talking about the high E string, sorry I forgot to mention.

You need to know scales and chord formulas to be able to play arpeggios . Knowing major chord formula 1-3-5 and minor chord formula 1-3b-5 is more than enough to get you started.

Nanducob said:
Isnt it root(1) major(3) perfect(5) for major scale?just refered some music theory lesson..

Yes

axes2t2 said:
@Desmond

Some links where we could learn arpeggio's and scales would be nice.

Pretty please with sugar,spice and everything nice on top.

This link below is good, though too detailed :

Nanducob said:
I use this lesson,dont have arpeggios,but some scales.Learning Music Theory. The Beginning | Lessons @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

You don't really need music theory to get you started with scales/arpeggios, though it would help if you knew. That is a good article if you want to know in depth.

Otherwise, this is a more concise lesson : Scales For Absolute Beginners | Lessons @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

BTW, I learned my music theory from a book called "Complete idiots guide to music theory" by Michael Miller.

Thankoo and thankoo.

Nanducob said:
Isnt it root(1) major(3) perfect(5) for major scale?just refered some music theory lesson..

Thats a formula and every chord type is contructed using the formula...
they are easy to understand but when applying them in playing Arpeggios u have to clearly understand the base
like u must have seen musicians playing "Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do" that is what Arpeggios are played over

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You need to know scales and chord formulas to be able to play arpeggios . Knowing major chord formula 1-3-5 and minor chord formula 1-3b-5 is more than enough to get you started.

I know the formulas for chords...

let me explain (correct me if I m wrong): consider C major chord (C,E,G)..if I play the 3 notes in Frets (wherever they lie on fretboard) that means I m playing an Arpeggios of C,E,G..
will the sharps and flats included in that (like C#,E#,G#)?

Zangetsu said:
Thats a formula and every chord type is contructed using the formula...
they are easy to understand but when applying them in playing Arpeggios u have to clearly understand the base
like u must have seen musicians playing "Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do" that is what Arpeggios are played over

I know the formulas for chords...

let me explain (correct me if I m wrong): consider C major chord (C,E,G)..if I play the 3 notes in Frets (wherever they lie on fretboard) that means I m playing an Arpeggios of C,E,G..
will the sharps and flats included in that (like C#,E#,G#)?

If you include sharps, it will become C# major arpeggio.

An arpeggio is not just limited to one octave, you can take it as many octaves higher as you please.

Zangetsu said:
Thats a formula and every chord type is contructed using the formula...
they are easy to understand but when applying them in playing Arpeggios u have to clearly understand the base
like u must have seen musicians playing "Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do" that is what Arpeggios are played over

I know the formulas for chords...

let me explain (correct me if I m wrong): consider C major chord (C,E,G)..if I play the 3 notes in Frets (wherever they lie on fretboard) that means I m playing an Arpeggios of C,E,G..
will the sharps and flats included in that (like C#,E#,G#)?

thanks.but when we play a c chord (X-3-2-0-1-0) where c=3 fret of A string,e=2 fret of D string and g=open G. so thats CE&G=C Chord(traid?),so why the bottom two strings are involved?

Trying to decipher the notation of "Englisher Tanz in A" on the keyboard. Toughering .

Nanducob said:
thanks.but when we play a c chord (X-3-2-0-1-0) where c=3 fret of A string,e=2 fret of D string and g=open G. so thats CE&G=C Chord(traid?),so why the bottom two strings are involved?

Because the bottom two notes are C and E, also part of the C major chord. If you observe any chord, you will notice that all the notes used are one of the root, third and perfect intervals of the major scale for that same note.

It is not compulsory to play them, but you can make a complex strum pattern on the same chord using the upper and lower parts of the chord.

JojoTheDragon said:
Trying to decipher the notation of "Englisher Tanz in A" on the keyboard. Toughering .

Please start by telling us what this is.

Thanks Desmond,sometimes its very confusing,guess i need a tutor,i have wasted weeks wondering what circle of fifths were..lol..after studying some basics,i got it right...

JojoTheDragon said:
Trying to decipher the notation of "Englisher Tanz in A" on the keyboard. Toughering .

Must be a song,like minuet in C.

maan....my digital tuner has stopped working...tried a tutorial on youtube to tune the guitar by ear...but somehow I am not able to get the 2nd string in tune at all :-?

....is it due to the stress on the strings coz the guitar was tuned and unused for more than a week??

^Sometimes some strings acts weird.Try detuning an tune again.try to get a tuner app for cellphone/pc

i donwloaded the gstrings app for android....but somehow if I tune it according to it...the guitar doesn't sound right(i mean not all the strings)

You have to fine tune it 3 times or your strings are too old.

Which one is this ?

*i.imgur.com/wNOIE.jpg

abhidev said:
i donwloaded the gstrings app for android....but somehow if I tune it according to it...the guitar doesn't sound right(i mean not all the strings)

Try the 5th fret method.

abhidev said:
maan....my digital tuner has stopped working...tried a tutorial on youtube to tune the guitar by ear...but somehow I am not able to get the 2nd string in tune at all ....is it due to the stress on the strings coz the guitar was tuned and unused for more than a week??

u can also use other tuners such as ultimate guitar tab has an app for iOS and android
I use Cleartune in iOS its excellent

axes2t2 said:
Which one is this ?

*i.imgur.com/wNOIE.jpg

Try the 5th fret method.

les paul studio?.

axes2t2 said:
Try the 5th fret method.

yea that is the method I saw in the tutorial....but somehow only the 2nd string doesn't sound right....should I change the string or wat???

Nanducob said:
You have to fine tune it 3 times or your strings are too old.

fine tune 3 times...i didn't get u ??? The strings are not old...I mean before I had replaced only the 2nd string twice as I broke it during tuning.... :/

Tune as usual.Then fine tune it 2 times(to match to the std tuning-ie make small adjustments to be exact(more accurate).
If you still cant get it in tune,detune it completely and strech it with your hand,then tune once again.

^ thanx for the tip....well I have kept the guitar detuned...will try tuning it again.

abhidev said:
maan....my digital tuner has stopped working...tried a tutorial on youtube to tune the guitar by ear...but somehow I am not able to get the 2nd string in tune at all ....is it due to the stress on the strings coz the guitar was tuned and unused for more than a week??

It will take sometime for the tuning to set in. You will have to keep checking tuning over a couple of days. Until then, your guitar will keep getting detuned. DO NOT tune it immediately, you might end up breaking the strings. You can loosen the strings and try again though.

To tune by ear, you need a reference tone for atleast one of the strings, preferably the low E string. Once you get that note correct, then place your hand on the 5th fret of the E string and play both the E and the A strings. You should hear beats. The faster they are, the more the A string is out of tune. Adjust the A string until the beats become slower and slower till you reach resonance, this is when the A string is completely tuned. Repeat the same for all strings except the B string, for which you need to fret the 4th fret of the G string.

You might not get it the first time, you will have to listen very carefully and feel the vibrations to understand what I am talking about.

If you want to use an app, Datuner for Android is the best tuner app out there. But relying on your tuner to tune all strings is useless if your guitar's intonation is off. Use it only to tune one string and tune rest by ears.

axes2t2 said:
Which one is this ?

*i.imgur.com/wNOIE.jpg

Try the 5th fret method.

Is that Les Paul Gothic Morte?

abhidev said:
fine tune 3 times...i didn't get u ??? The strings are not old...I mean before I had replaced only the 2nd string twice as I broke it during tuning.... :/

yeah the 1st (high E) and low strings are more susceptible to breaking

Nanducob said:
les paul studio?.

Seems you are right.

*affenknecht.com/images/equipment/gibson-les-paul-studio.jpg

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Is that Les Paul Gothic Morte?

Now I am confused.

abhidev said:
yea that is the method I saw in the tutorial....but somehow only the 2nd string doesn't sound right....should I change the string or wat???

For the 2nd string you have to check the 4th fret.

Why don't you guys attach an mp3 of yourselves playing, or a youtube video if you're not shy. Would love to see the talent in the community

^only when i get a decent cam

Raaabo said:
Why don't you guys attach an mp3 of yourselves playing, or a youtube video if you're not shy. Would love to see the talent in the community

My youtube has some of my videos : dessavio - YouTube

Worst album covers.i like pooh(p) man cover lol..The 15 Worst Album Covers of All-Time | Cracked.com

Nanducob said:
Worst album covers.i like pooh(p) man cover lol..The 15 Worst Album Covers of All-Time | Cracked.com

I've seen worse.

Maybe this? Brain stew of ohlin..
Dawn of the Black Hearts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nanducob said:
Maybe this? Brain stew of ohlin..
Dawn of the Black Hearts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, I've seen that one. Most notorious of all. Not a huge Mayhem fan though.

M

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Practice those chords thoroughly.

N00b Query: When doing the practice exercise stuff (fret 1, then 2, then 3, then 4 on string E, then A etc.etc.), fingertips should be right on top of the fret (the vertical metal piece). But while practising chords, fingertips need to be in the space between the two frets?? Some guys on youtube do the former, others the latter! Highly confused!! Which one's correct? Better?

Edit: Is this the right place for guitar-playing queries? Or there is separate thread for that?

Mario said:
N00b Query: When doing the practice exercise stuff (fret 1, then 2, then 3, then 4 on string E, then A etc.etc.), fingertips should be right on top of the fret (the vertical metal piece). But while practising chords, fingertips need to be in the space between the two frets?? Some guys on youtube do the former, others the latter! Highly confused!! Which one's correct? Better?

Edit: Is this the right place for guitar-playing queries? Or there is separate thread for that?

It doesn't matter where you place your fingers as long as they are to the left of the frets. Try not to place it exactly on the fret, since you might mute the string altogether.

As close to the fret line.

M

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It doesn't matter where you place your fingers as long as they are to the left of the frets. Try not to place it exactly on the fret, since you might mute the string altogether.

axes2t2 said:
As close to the fret line.

Thanks. Two more n00b queries:

1. While playing any string other than the Es, the middle and ring fingers invariably touch the string below the one they are playing therefore distorting it...Is this normal for n00b player or is his guitar-playing doomed forever due to his fat fingers?
2. While trying the practice exercise as in Desmond's 2nd video (1-2-3-4 fingers on 1-6 strings), the little finger just wont place right on the 4th fret after the other three are placed on the first three frets! This on a 3/4 neck guitar!!! Any tips/tricks/exercise to help with this? Maybe someone can post a very close pic of how exactly their left hands look (finger and wrist position) while fretting a large acoustic neck??

1)Try to use your finger tips when fretting.slowly it gets well.
2)needs practice,strength.

M

Nanducob said:
1)Try to use your finger tips when fretting.slowly it gets well.
2)needs practice,strength.

Aah! Thank God (and you)!

Yes, trying to fret as slowly as possible and with fingertips only. Is it normal for the index finger to hurt more than the others or does that signify something is going wrong while practising? Noticed index finger is grooved far more than the others! Pinky is barely grooved!

^it happens when you play at first,dont worry slowly calluses will form and will be much easier afterwards

and heres something you should see about left hand positioning..

M

Nanducob said:
^it happens when you play at first,dont worry slowly calluses will form and will be much easier afterwards

and heres something you should see about left hand positioning..

Seen and Ctrl+D-ed!

Thanks. I was asking if I am overusing the index finger or perhaps underusing the others coz at the end of the day, the others don't hurt as much as the index.
Shouldn't all four fingers hurt the same?

That may be because - not all your fingers have to apply the same amount of force to perfectly fret a note,like the index finger is already strong,so you dont have to the apply the same force as other fingers.This is no 'big deal',just practice daily.
Another reason-If you practice for a long time,continuously it may crack the soft skin.So practice in sessions with rest in between.

M

Nanducob said:
That may be because - not all your fingers have to apply the same amount of force to perfectly fret a note,like the index finger is already strong,so you dont have to the apply the same force as other fingers.This is no 'big deal',just practice daily.
Another reason-If you practice for a long time,continuously it may crack the soft skin.So practice in sessions with rest in between.

Thanks. To be honest with you, I am hardly able to play even for 2 minutes at a stretch at all.

I am currently trying the Em and E chords. My index finger starts to feel painful right from the start..say, I fret one measure of Em or E and have to stop for a minute before I can fret again.
I fret a second time and have to stop again for a minute as the "groove" on the index smooths out..

Is this normal for a beginner? Or should I just ignore the pain/groove and keep fretting for 10 minutes flat?

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I got some more nooby queries for you:

a. Should one first learn to fret all the chords of the A/D/G/C family and then work on progressions? Or should we start progressions the moment we are confident with two/three chords?

b. At some websites, (like justinguitar) I see that they say we should learn to fret with other fingers as well, meaning to say, instead of using the usual 2,3 for Em, we should also know how to play Em with say 3,4 or 1,2!!
My question is, does it matter at all, which fingers we use for a chord, or can we use any finger combo of our liking and convenience to fret a chord, as long as the notes come out clear?

you can play as long as you wish,if you can bear the pain,nothing wrong with playing 10 minutes or one hour straight.

a)At first you wont be able to do chord progressions quickly,so try to fret the chords at first and once in a while try to do chord progressions.
b)you can use whatever finger you like,but

more alternate finger positions=much easier/better/economical chord progression

for example if you play an E minor using fingers 3,4 [instead of 1,2 0r 2,3] and the next chord after E minor is an F major,then you dont have to lift your fingers,you just have to slide the fingers 3,4 on to the 3rd fret[string A & D] to make an F major plus other fingers.In the same scenario,if the next chord after E minor is a G major, then the more economical fingering for E minor will be 1,2,since you dont have to lift the finger 1 to do a transformation to chord G major.[hope you understood

]

I dont know how long youre playing,but if youre just starting out its better to learn a fixed fingering for a specific chord and after some time when you learn most of the chords,you can just start doing alternate fingerings,though there is nothing wrong in trying now

Mario said:
To be honest with you, I am hardly able to play even for 2 minutes at a stretch at all.

Thats too bad

M

Nanducob said:
you can play as long as you wish,if you can bear the pain,nothing wrong with playing 10 minutes or one hour straight.

a)At first you wont be able to do chord progressions quickly,so try to fret the chords at first and once in a while try to do chord progressions.
b)you can use whatever finger you like,but

more alternate finger positions=much easier/better/economical chord progression

for example if you play an E minor using fingers 3,4 [instead of 1,2 0r 2,3] and the next chord after E minor is an F major,then you dont have to lift your fingers,you just have to slide the fingers 3,4 on to the 3rd fret[string A & D] to make an F major plus other fingers.In the same scenario,if the next chord after E minor is a G major, then the more economical fingering for E minor will be 1,2,since you dont have to lift the finger 1 to do a transformation to chord G major.[hope you understood]

I dont know how long youre playing,but if youre just starting out its better to learn a fixed fingering for a specific chord and after some time when you learn most of the chords,you can just start doing alternate fingerings,though there is nothing wrong in trying now

Thats too bad

Thanks. I got the part about the finger positions and chord transformations. I currently practice for about an hour-long session, 3~4 times a day. Hopefully once the fingertips become harder, I will be able to play at a stretch instead of stopping every alternate minute.

Its more important that you learn to fret the chords correctly and accurately. So, ensure that all your fretted notes sound crisp and clear and are not dull, that is you are fretting each and every note correctly. Also, make sure that you are strumming smoothly.

Its better that you learn from an instructor that learn yourself. You will learn much faster and make fewer mistakes. Learning the hard way will be too slow and you might not recover from any mistakes that you make along the way. Trust me, I know.

And pain in fingers is natural, keep practicing at a steady pace and it will be gone, it might take some time to go though. My fingers still pain sometimes.

M

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Its more important that you learn to fret the chords correctly and accurately. So, ensure that all your fretted notes sound crisp and clear and are not dull, that is you are fretting each and every note correctly. Also, make sure that you are strumming smoothly.

Thanks. Currently, the only chord I can produce near-perfectly with some consistency is the Em.

I have stopped focusing on chords too much and just focusing hard on doing tab exercises (1234321/112131413121/41424342414 etc). My fingers are already loosening quite a bit and the pain/soreness is going away too. I can now practise about 10~15 minutes at a stretch without stopping in between

I plan to continue with these exercises for about 2 weeks (2~3 practice sessions daily for about 0.5~1 hour each, all days of week) before evaluating my progress and moving on to some chords.

Please do suggest if this routine/plan is ok or should be modified.

Edit: Some friends suggesting to buy "Guitar for dummies" or "Learn Guitar DVD Book" (something like that). Should I? Will this prove helpful given that I have no human instructor?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Its better that you learn from an instructor that learn yourself. You will learn much faster and make fewer mistakes. Learning the hard way will be too slow and you might not recover from any mistakes that you make along the way. Trust me, I know.

Uh-oh! Getting an instructor is a problem due to work. I work all 7 days and my hours are flexible and long. So, I can't get a fixed-hour, fixed-place person to help me with. (which is why you see me asking all my questions here). I am watching a lot of videos before I do "anything" at all to ensure I don't acquire any bad habits. [Although my thumb curls out a bit oddly whenever I am on the low E string - trying to find a fix for that]. Hopefully all you guys (and gals) here will help me out with your expertise.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
And pain in fingers is natural, keep practicing at a steady pace and it will be gone, it might take some time to go though. My fingers still pain sometimes.

Yeah, actually the pain is already decreased to a great extent and the notes are coming loud and clear (mostly

). But how come your fingers pain? I thought if you played for a year or so, its bye-bye pain forever??

No matter how many books you read/ videos you watch, everyone has different ways of playing and prone to different mistakes. An instructor will guide you by observing how you play and suggesting techniques accordingly. This cannot be accomplished via solo learning, so you will have to evaluate your own progress. At least, hang around with friends who know how to play and jam along with them, you will surely pick up something.

One fast way to learn (how I learned, basically) is find chords for songs you want to cover (you can find them on ultimate-guitar.com or other such sites), then observe what chords are required to play the song and learn those chords first. Once done, try playing that song bit by bit. It will be more fun to learn this way. But, do not make this the sole method to learn. Only do this when you are bored of the exercises and once again, accuracy is important.

What kind of songs do you want to play? Perhaps I can give some specific instructions.

Edit: About the pain...well, I've been playing for close to four years, but I am also lazy so when I get out of touch, my fingers pain

. But my elbow pains more.

M

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
No matter how many books you read/ videos you watch, everyone has different ways of playing and prone to different mistakes. An instructor will guide you by observing how you play and suggesting techniques accordingly. This cannot be accomplished via solo learning, so you will have to evaluate your own progress. At least, hang around with friends who know how to play and jam along with them, you will surely pick up something.

Hmm...you are scaring me with this part. The guitarists/musician friends I have are all cities/states/countries/continents away!

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
One fast way to learn (how I learned, basically) is find chords for songs you want to cover (you can find them on ultimate-guitar.com or other such sites), then observe what chords are required to play the song and learn those chords first. Once done, try playing that song bit by bit. It will be more fun to learn this way. But, do not make this the sole method to learn. Only do this when you are bored of the exercises and once again, accuracy is important.

Nice idea.. I will try this after I get comfortable with the tab exercises (meaning after about two weeks).

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
What kind of songs do you want to play? Perhaps I can give some specific instructions.

Well, Eagles definitely. Some GNR, Scorpions perhaps. Maybe some Metallica but positively nothing like Slip Knot.

Anyway, isn't it too early for songs for me? Even "Row row row your boat"? I had almost convinced myself that I won't think of playing songs till at least 1 year of learning all this stuff.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Edit: About the pain...well, I've been playing for close to four years, but I am also lazy so when I get out of touch, my fingers pain . But my elbow pains more.

I just realized that the most sore part of my body due to the guitar is not my fingers but the upper right side of the chest where the guitar-shoulder (fat acoustic) braces against it.

Q: Do we have to replace the whole bridge of the guitar? coz the white line on which the strings rest is getting deeper string marks and is slightly breaked?

M

Zangetsu said:
Q: Do we have to replace the whole bridge of the guitar? coz the white line on which the strings rest is getting deeper string marks and is slightly breaked?

I think just replacing the saddle (white line on which the strings rest) should be enough. Unless of course the whole bridge is coming out of the body which you can determine by trying to slide a thin piece of notebook paper underneath the bridge. Even if a little part of the paper goes in, time to visit a luthier.

^so u mean we can only replace the saddle also?
if yes how do they cost?

No idea bro, I've never faced such a problem.

M

Zangetsu said:
^so u mean we can only replace the saddle also?
if yes how do they cost?

Yes definitely. However for electric guitars, you need to find exact match/model. Also, they come in packs of 6~7s, not sure if single ones are available. Not sure of cost.
Acoustic saddles should come within 20~50 bucks I think. Is yours acoustic or electric?

Mario said:
Yes definitely. However for electric guitars, you need to find exact match/model. Also, they come in packs of 6~7s, not sure if single ones are available. Not sure of cost.
Acoustic saddles should come within 20~50 bucks I think. Is yours acoustic or electric?

Acoustic....bcoz of that some of the strings are making buzz sound even after proper tuning

M

Zangetsu said:
Acoustic....bcoz of that some of the strings are making buzz sound even after proper tuning

Just visit your local luthier...and ask him to replace saddle and setup your guitar again. Saddle should not cost more than 50 bucks.

Mario said:
Just visit your local luthier...and ask him to replace saddle and setup your guitar again. Saddle should not cost more than 50 bucks.

lu·thi·er Pronunciation (lt-r)
n.
One that makes or repairs stringed instruments, such as violins.

ok thanx..

M

Zangetsu said:
lu·thi·er Pronunciation (lt-r)
n.
One that makes or repairs stringed instruments, such as violins.

ok thanx..

Local musical instruments shop should have one (or more).

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Ok, I have a bunch of n00b queries coming up shortly; but for now,

a. While strumming eighth-notes, or say, simply strumming down and up, I can get all the notes of the chord on the down strum but during the up strum, I barely hit 2~3 strings of the chord. Its especially a problem while strumming 5 or 6 string chords.
Any tips on right hand positioning to better this? [Note that I am consciously strumming from the elbow as much as possible while trying to keep my wrist as loose as possible.]

b. I just learnt "Jingle Bells" [just tab notes, not on chords]. On the second line, I got - 1111 - 1000 - 0330 - 3 3 - on the first string. Now in the second measure of that line, when I go from that 1 to the 0, there is a buzz as I change over (release the 1 basically). What am I doing wrong and how do I minimize/get rid of the buzz?

a)upstrokes/strums are difficult.practice
b)is that a buzz or the sound of a pullof/action too low?

Mario said:
I currently practice for about an hour-long session, 3~4 times a day. Hopefully once the fingertips become harder, I will be able to play at a stretch instead of stopping every alternate minute.

V Good

M

Nanducob said:
a)upstrokes/strums are difficult.practice

Ok. I found some suggestions that when strumming eighth notes, only down strums need to have all strings of the chord, and the up strum may have only the first 3 strings of the chord. Which sounded like very dubious advice to me. That's obviously incorrect right?

Nanducob said:
b)is that a buzz or the sound of a pullof/action too low?

See, when I play the 1st string 1st fret on its own (say like a 1 1 1 1), it sounds perfect. Its only when I am playing a 1 0, while releasing the 1, as I am releasing it, I get a slight buzzing. I guess as the string is still vibrating when I am releasing the 1 to play the 0, this is why it happens (or maybe I should release it fast and not slowly ? ) . I am pretty sure the action is all right and not too low (I measured using a tape, the gap from the fretboard to the 1st string at fret 1 is just sigh of the 4/32th of an inch). I do not know what a "pullof" is yet.

I think I am doing something wrong while playing that second measure ( 1 0 0 0 ). Do you have any suggestions for me? How will you play a 1000? I mean, how will you move from that 1 to the 0 ?
Or is it because I am playing very slowly that I can hear the buzz and if some expert played it fast enough, it wont be audible?

Nanducob said:
V Good

Thanks. One of the bad things about learning on your own is, there is nobody to pat your back, when after trying something for the 90th time, you finally get it right.

So, thanks for your encouragement.

a)i have no idea about this.you have to strum upstrokes equally as downstrokes,let someone else here help you on this one.
b)i think youre doing pull offs without realising it.that may be because you pick the '1' perfectly,but you play the'0' not after taking off the finger completely but during the take off.So youre pulling off from fret 1 to fret 0(open string) which will sound different.I will advice you to play with the help of a metronome,if you havent,download a metronome app to your phone,and practice with low bpm,gradually increasing the bpm.
If you can,hire a tutor/goto classes.Usually theyll have one class(1-2 hours) in a week or so.Usually classes will be at late evenings,when i went to my classes there were all those busy 'office guys' and even policemen whom after their busy jobs,found time for guitar-ing.Youll make new friends and you can have a combined study plus some healthy competition

.That will be best for you,better than refering some books from home and You ll learn much faster plus the theory,and hopefully you can teach Us some lessons and tips youve learned

^1 0 0 0 means play the string pressed once & then open 3 times.
pull-off is reverse of hammer-on... for e.g: 4H3: press the string on 4Fret & 3Fret..strike the string and release 3Fret finger

NSFL

^lol

song starts @ 2.20

Recommendations on acoustic guitars required.

Budget 7500/-

Also anyone heard about Crusader guitars ?

axes2t2 said:
Recommendations on acoustic guitars required.

Budget 7500/-

Also anyone heard about Crusader guitars ?

I suggest the metallic saddle ones instead of cheap plastic..
brands: Yamaha,Ibanez,Hofner,Pluto,Gibson etc

Zangetsu said:
I suggest the metallic saddle ones instead of cheap plastic..
brands: Yamaha,Ibanez,Hofner,Pluto,Gibson etc

from where are you going to buy gibson for 7.5k;D

^^

Zangetsu said:
I suggest the metallic saddle ones instead of cheap plastic..
brands: Yamaha,Ibanez,Hofner,Pluto,Gibson etc

Any specific models ?

And

Also anyone heard about Crusader guitars ?

I have a Granada Dreadnought which I bought it for 6.5k from Furtados. Its a nice guitar with good deep sound vibrations.

woow the 'Crusader guitars' are a looker...nice designs

@axes2t2: don't just go by the look also consider the main point 'Sound'

Tadaaa - Crusader acoustic.

*i.imgur.com/qSX82.jpg

*i.imgur.com/xMAAy.jpg

Old Guitar.

*i.imgur.com/JUAou.jpg

congrats axes2t2

,seems nice,how is it?price please

congrats @axes....cost???

Congrats axes2t2....nice guitar

Congrats bro.

Make a video so we see how it sounds like.

Thanks everyone.It was for ~6k

I'll try about the video.

Congo to the cat.

Bro is hooked to his new setup. Boss ps-5(harmonist) + mt2 + cs3 . It sounds so damn sweet.

How much does the MT2 cost? I've been looking for it for sometime now.

A little more than 6k he said.

JojoTheDragon said:
A little more than 6k he said.

Wait, you talking about The Cat?

Dude cats are priceless.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Wait, you talking about The Cat?

lol. I asked my bro about the MT-2 price and he said, " A little more than 6k" .

JojoTheDragon said:
lol. I asked my bro about the MT-2 price and he said, " A little more than 6k" .

Lol...I thought you were talking about axes

Still, too damn expensive.

Guys..which acoustic strings (brand) u r using?
I've got D'addario Strings..hope they are good.

M

Elixirs/D'adds FTW!

Zangetsu said:
Guys..which acoustic strings (brand) u r using?
I've got D'addario Strings..hope they are good.

D'addario Light gauge is what I like most. I tried Gibson super light gauge once but didn't like it much, found it harder to pick.

Zangetsu said:
Guys..which acoustic strings (brand) u r using?
I've got D'addario Strings..hope they are good.

I used GB&A phospher bronze on my old guitar.

Now I will probably change the brand.

Guys, need some advice.

I'd like to know how MotherJane's guitarist makes those Veena (I think) like sounds. I suspect that he uses a Synth engine or a Harmonic Octave Generator alongwith an Octaver but I am not sure. I've searched everywhere, but I am unable to get any info about what gear or patches they use. Can anyone here who has some exp help out?

Check this video for reference :

I think he(Baiju Dharmajan) uses slide guitar(bottleneck)File:Fingandslide.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia because thats how it sounds like(not sure)(listen to jeff beck-nadia intro) and he likes carnatic music .Also according to wiki his gear is-
'Epiphone prophecy,Gibson STUDIO,Yamaha Compass series Acoustic guitar,epiphone sst classic 2.0, DIGITECH GSP1101 and ART SGX 2000 PRE AMP. Dharmajan used a Ibanez RG320 to record Insane Biography and Maktub'

Nanducob said:
I think he(Baiju Dharmajan) uses slide guitar(bottleneck)File:Fingandslide.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia because thats how it sounds like(not sure)(listen to jeff beck-nadia intro) and he likes carnatic music .Also according to wiki his gear is-
'Epiphone prophecy,Gibson STUDIO,Yamaha Compass series Acoustic guitar,epiphone sst classic 2.0, DIGITECH GSP1101 and ART SGX 2000 PRE AMP. Dharmajan used a Ibanez RG320 to record Insane Biography and Maktub'

I am sure its not slide. I've seen their live videos. But, let me see what the Digitech GSP is all about.

Edit : Yeah...its a multi-effects processor. But, it costs a bomb. Any way to get the same cheaper?

Guy's need some info on the parts of song.

Solo,Chorus,VERSE ????
also Licks vs Riffs

@Desmond

not in india

Zangetsu said:
Guy's need some info on the parts of song.

Solo,Chorus,VERSE ????
also Licks vs Riffs

matlab ??

has anyone learnt/knows how to play a bagpipe, or wishes to learn to?

^do you know how to play it?

no

i wish to learn it. need to know about teachers. and where can it be learnt.

Zangetsu said:
Guy's need some info on the parts of song.

Solo,Chorus,VERSE ????
also Licks vs Riffs

The solo is where any one instrument takes the centerstage. For ex, a guitar solo, where the vocalist may or may not sing backing.
Chorus is a part of the song where multiple vocalists sing together, therefore giving a chorus effect.
Verse is a sentence in lyrics.

Lick and riffs are harder to define since they are sometimes used interchangeably. The way I see it, a lick is a non repetitive pattern played during random intervals of the song, while the riff may or may not be repetitive but is usually used in context with rhythm than lead.

GhorMaanas said:
no
i wish to learn it. need to know about teachers. and where can it be learnt.

no idea mate,its a strange instrument,IMO,if youre interested in wind instruments,check out mouth organ/harmonica/harp..Easy and plenty of online tutors,just my suggestion.

yes, i agree its a strange instrument. i couldn't find much info online too (tutoring lessons). nevertheless, i hope i would be able to find someone to teach here. there used to be aired some show on MTV sometime back where bands & musicians used to perform for auditioning. i didn't use to see the show, but just while browsing through once my eyes fell on a young lone chap who was a bagpipe-performer. thence i felt there may be dearth of such people, but certainly they are not non-existent. i fancy learning quite some of them, like santoor, chinese flute, harmonica, drums, etc., too much to wish for, but want to start off with the bagpipe

good luck

.cant find one on indian stores.ebay has some though
*www.ebay.ca/sch/Bagpipes-/16226/i.html

axes2t2 said:
matlab ??

what are their definitions

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
The solo is where any one instrument takes the centerstage. For ex, a guitar solo, where the vocalist may or may not sing backing.
Chorus is a part of the song where multiple vocalists sing together, therefore giving a chorus effect.
Verse is a sentence in lyrics.

Lick and riffs are harder to define since they are sometimes used interchangeably. The way I see it, a lick is a non repetitive pattern played during random intervals of the song, while the riff may or may not be repetitive but is usually used in context with rhythm than lead.

Thanx for info

Nanducob said:
good luck.cant find one on indian stores.ebay has some though
Bagpipes | eBay

thanks a lot, for the link too!

GhorMaanas said:
yes, i agree its a strange instrument. i couldn't find much info online too (tutoring lessons). nevertheless, i hope i would be able to find someone to teach here. there used to be aired some show on MTV sometime back where bands & musicians used to perform for auditioning. i didn't use to see the show, but just while browsing through once my eyes fell on a young lone chap who was a bagpipe-performer. thence i felt there may be dearth of such people, but certainly they are not non-existent. i fancy learning quite some of them, like santoor, chinese flute, harmonica, drums, etc., too much to wish for, but want to start off with the bagpipe

Have you tried Youtube?

BTW, here is a resource : Buy How To Play The Bagpipe Online | Best Woodwind in India | Furtados Online

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Have you tried Youtube?

BTW, here is a resource : Buy How To Play The Bagpipe Online | Best Woodwind in India | Furtados Online

nice find! thanks a lot!

no, i haven't searched youtube yet (moreover, i don't have the instrument), but certainly i think youtube will have lots of videos on the subject.

Finally ! Getting Classic Vibe 50 on saturday

*www.rowlandsmusic.com/store/images/uploads/guitars/squier/Squier%20Classic%20Vibe%2050s%20Strat%20%282%29.jpg

And a Fiio portable guitar Amp which I can use with my Miracles.
*www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/5620001/5620001EXTRA2.jpg

What other things I need to start learning ? A tuning instrument ? Please tell your suggestions.

Faun said:
Finally ! Getting Classic Vibe 50 on saturday
*www.rowlandsmusic.com/store/images/uploads/guitars/squier/Squier%20Classic%20Vibe%2050s%20Strat%20%282%29.jpg

And a Fiio portable guitar Amp which I can use with my Miracles.
*www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/5620001/5620001EXTRA2.jpg

What other things I need to start learning ? A tuning instrument ? Please tell your suggestions.

Congrats, but the main thing you need to start learning is time and dedication. Everything else is optional.

Edit : Why not take a VOX or Marshall mini stack? Those are better IMO.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Congrats, but the main thing you need to start learning is time and dedication. Everything else is optional.

Edit : Why not take a VOX or Marshall mini stack? Those are better IMO.

To be frank, I have been always allured by the technology. And part of the motivation will be that. Planning to learn this sweet thing with dedication.

Yeah, I'd buy another good amp but for the testing purpose I am getting G01. It will be quite handy at night when everyone else is sleeping and I can just plug my earphones.

Thinking of buying Fender Mustang 2 40 watt AMP later.

Faun said:
To be frank, I have been always allured by the technology. And part of the motivation will be that. Planning to learn this sweet thing with dedication.

Yeah, I'd buy another good amp but for the testing purpose I am getting G01. It will be quite handy at night when everyone else is sleeping and I can just plug my earphones.

Thinking of buying Fender Mustang 2 40 watt AMP later.

HOw much you budget for amp? Note that higher wattage amp does not matter much for a practice amp. 15 watts more than enough.

Also, Fender amps are more biased towards highs, while Marshall have better mids. So, your guitar will sound better with a Marshall.

Nice.

Faun said:
Finally ! Getting Classic Vibe 50 on saturday
*www.rowlandsmusic.com/store/images/uploads/guitars/squier/Squier%20Classic%20Vibe%2050s%20Strat%20%282%29.jpg

And a Fiio portable guitar Amp which I can use with my Miracles.
*www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/5620001/5620001EXTRA2.jpg

What other things I need to start learning ? A tuning instrument ? Please tell your suggestions.

good,which shop are you buying it from?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
HOw much you budget for amp? Note that higher wattage amp does not matter much for a practice amp. 15 watts more than enough.

Also, Fender amps are more biased towards highs, while Marshall have better mids. So, your guitar will sound better with a Marshall.

Budget is 10-15k. But I saw that Fender Mustang 2 has great software too for variations.

axes2t2 said:
Nice.

Thanks..

Nanducob said:
good,which shop are you buying it from?

Getting it from UK.

Initially planned to buy it from bajaoo.com but they raised the price of white color guitar to 32k after 2 days when I inquired about that. Black version is close to 28k.

Not going to buy anything from that site in lifetime and never going to recommend it to anyone.

^hey,why not buy a Laney amp from U.K,theyre very cheap there,like a Cub 8 or cub 10- theyre good practice tube amps.

^^It's not possible at this point as the person is already coming back on leave.

Faun said:
^^It's not possible at this point as the person is already coming back on leave.

Congrats man.

M

Faun said:
Finally ! Getting Classic Vibe 50 on saturday

*www.rowlandsmusic.com/store/images/uploads/guitars/squier/Squier%20Classic%20Vibe%2050s%20Strat%20%282%29.jpg

And a Fiio portable guitar Amp which I can use with my Miracles.

*www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/5620001/5620001EXTRA2.jpg

What other things I need to start learning ? A tuning instrument ? Please tell your suggestions.

Ooh - nice!

To start learning, you need the following -

a. Electronic Tuner - you can get Korg 5000 bucks one or Cherub 500 bucks one!

b. Hard Case (protect that guitar, forget gig bag)

I am assuming you are learning on your own, and do not have a teacher -

c. Open Youtube, download all of Freepower's videos (tutorials+exercises+whatever he says)
d. Register at UG, talk to folks, talk to FP, get help at Technique thread.

e. Check all (most?) Guitar Learning sites on the net (or at least as much as you can), take every advice (even Justin Sandercoe's) with a pinch of salt - adapt those to meet your needs, don't just blindly try to follow - get your technique corrected at UG.

As you visit more and more sites, you will feel overwhelmed with so much advice - but you will also get an insight into which piece of advice might be for you and which might not be! For eg - Sandercoe says, "Keep the axe vertical /completely parallel to your body" - while this may work for an electric, it often does not for a fat-a55ed acoustic...Then there's one more guy, I think, Brian or someone, who gives outright bad info at times - only if you check multiple videos will you be able to determine for yourself what's good worth following and what's not!

f. For the first month, or at least till your fingers bleed, practice 2-3 hours every day (at different times) - do this till you can fret any string with any finger and it does not hurt, no matter how long you do it. Once it stops hurting, you may bring down your practice time to an hour a day if other matters take priority (I know you are a working guy and its not always possible for us to put in 3 hours daily) - Forget all that "10-15 mins everyday" crap.

Initially for first two days, you wont be able to play at stretch, your fingers will demand rest every 5 minutes. Thats normal, dont worry. [True for high-action acoustic steel, might vary for electric]
In my case, I used to wake up real early, "do the guitar" an hour, then in the evening, do it an hour and again at night before sleeping, do it an hour. It stopped hurting after 10 days.

g. Buy/borrow some Music Theory book, read it whenever you can or feel like, dedicate time to it, if you like what you are reading. [It blew my mind, when I started reading about it, so I kept at it..another friend also started but lost interest and stopped - so really up to you] [Complete Idiot's guide is a good one, I feel]

h. Pay attention to your left hand wrist (assuming you are a righty-guy], keep it straight (always for strings 1-3, and as much as possible for 4-6 - straighten the guitar (towards the ceiling) if required).
i. Pay attention to your left hand fingers (curl, curl, curl)
j. Pay attention to your left hand pinky - build strength in it - practice Sandercoe's or FP's stretching exercises.
k. Pay attention to your right hand - swing it, dont swing the wrist.
l. Don't anchor your right hand - anchor = BAD! Hold pick in whichever way feels most comfortable to you - don't listen to anyone on this point (well of course, don't hold it with your pinky and ring finger!)

m. Ring notes clearly, don't do it half-heartedly or be satisfied if you miss a note or bend one out of tune or play a Eminor11 between 2 chords (you'll get this eventually

). Aim for the moon, so you'll land in the stars [or else you will be stuck forever in guitar hell

]

n. Do two things whenever you feel like playing - 1. Tune before playing. 2. Clean after playing (strings, fretboard, body everything).
o. Try training your ear - there are software trainers available for free. Try to sound out a note you hear around you on your guitar. I hear the 5 am clock chime (the tune that plays before the "dong") everyday when I am playing and try to sound that note on my guitar...have been trying for two weeks without success - but I know it will happen one day [unless I am tone-deaf, hopefully I am not!])

p. Don't depend too much on a metronome - yes, use it when you want to keep rhythm, but get that rhythm "inside you" as soon as you can, and stop using the metronome.

And finally, the most important thing you need to learn is

q. Watch Shawn Lane once a week for inspiration ???? Download Slash Max sessions video for inspiration???

Also dream of playing like Batio ??? Ya ya you get the drift!

Remember, God only came down once as a shredder (as Shawn Lane), so none of us can ever play like Him - but we can always play like ourselves, if you know what I mean!

Best of luck!

PS: If you need fingerprinting to be done for any purpose (visa/NASSCOM card), don't play till those are done.

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I have been at it for a month now - I still can't change chords, but NO WORRIES - one day, I will! :doublethumb:

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Aah! Rant over! Carry on!

Mario said:
I have been at it for a month now - I still can't change chords, but NO WORRIES - one day, I will!

go slow in changing chords...first try to visualize the chord u r about to change u will get that eventually...

M

Zangetsu said:
go slow in changing chords...first try to visualize the chord u r about to change u will get that eventually...

yes it happens at 1 chord per minute speed for me right now, all I have to do is increase the speed!

To be honest, I am really finding it difficult holding the A and G (4-finger) chord. Let's see - all I can do is keep at it and pray Lord Hendrix showers some of his blessings on me

Best way to learn to shift chords is first place your fingers one at a time and then strum to ensure that all fingers are firmly in place, then, release all your fingers widely and then replace them and strum. Continue this till you get a hang of it then continue the same for another chord.

Once you get a hang of this, you can continue the same while alternating between two chords which you want to practice.

M

Thanks Nanducob, Zangetsu and Desmond! You guys have helped me from the very first day and hopefully it will pay off one day :doublethumb:

Nice piece of advice Mario,i see youve learned alot in a short time.good luck to you

Well i have decided to take a break from 'guitaring',starting from Q3 this year for 3-4 years.Will start learning from note 1,then.Good to see new aspiring guitarists emerging out,here.I guess 'God' maintains a balance among guitarists

,kicking out me from the scene,when someone new comes in.Anyways ive promised myself that i'll start all over again 'nice and slow' after 3-4 years

.

M

@Nanducob: See the sad part is I have learnt nothing.. Sure I know what the Circle of Fifths means and how the shape of Am chord is, but can I PLAY it? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

:'(
Why 3-4 years? Now, man, do it NOW! You need to watch some "Lane" to ignite the fire again :doublethumb:

^hehe dont worry,as i 'learned' from bits,here and there it took me 2 years to understand that there were certain notes in the neck like e,f, f#,g..you know..and it took another 2 years to understand cof'ifths...so i decided not to waste my time learning myself..after 3 yrs i will go to a good tutor and learn from the beginning

^Guitar learning varies from person to person..some learn very fast

Yup,im not one of them

M

I can read and understand books fast, but can't learn "playing" fast enough!

No good teachers here, all are "follow my way or the highway"!
To hell with them!

I will have this............

*i.imgur.com/kff2ymh.jpg

Mario said:
I can read and understand books fast, but can't learn "playing" fast enough!
No good teachers here, all are "follow my way or the highway"!
To hell with them!

Instructors can be a******s, but know that an instructor can teach you faster than you can learn on your own. Its a necessary evil.

I hate them because all of them are teaching bollywood bullshit. So, be on a lookout for someone who is well versed in music theory and can play a wide variety of genres (except bollywood). Such instructors are the best.

Thanks guys for the detailed advice. Guitar should be in my hand on Friday. Saturday and Sunday for exploring everything about it.

Now the question is how do I tune the strings. I have no idea. I got this gstring app in android which is supposed to help in tuning.

Is there any other easy way since I won't be having any tuning instrument at my disposal.

Best app for tuning is DaTuner.

Make sure that you tune the strings as follows : E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4 (if you are using DaTuner)

And a metronome/metronome app.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Best app for tuning is DaTuner.

Make sure that you tune the strings as follows : E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4 (if you are using DaTuner)

One more thing, after tuning with the app, do a manual check to see if the strings are indeed in tune (5th fret technique). This is to rule out intonation problems that might be with your guitar.

M

Faun said:
Thanks guys for the detailed advice. Guitar should be in my hand on Friday. Saturday and Sunday for exploring everything about it.

Now the question is how do I tune the strings. I have no idea. I got this gstring app in android which is supposed to help in tuning.

Is there any other easy way since I won't be having any tuning instrument at my disposal.

My opinion would be -

Forget apps - buy an electronic tuner - cheap ones available at ~500 bucks.
Also try 5th fret method like Desmond said.
Don't go for pipes - your ears are probably not ready for them yet.

For metronome, you can get an app or software metronome - but verify its "timeliness" before you start using it. [Yes, not all software metronomes are accurate]

The best metronome is your feet. And your head! Also, you can practice "beat keeping" anywhere, anytime - just try tapping your feet or clapping your hands lightly every time you hear any piece of music. This will help you get rid of any dependency on a metronome. Once you master this, you will see identifying quarter/eighth/half notes is piece of cake!

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Edit: Just noticed the whammy on your axe! I am not sure but I have heard tuning whammy-s is a pita! Desmond, your thoughts?

Faun said:
Now the question is how do I tune the strings. I have no idea. I got this gstring app in android which is supposed to help in tuning.

Is there any other easy way since I won't be having any tuning instrument at my disposal.

Gstrings is very good app..just press auto tune and tight each string slowly
standard tuning is A440 (E A D G B E)

Mario said:
Edit: Just noticed the whammy on your axe! I am not sure but I have heard tuning whammy-s is a pita! Desmond, your thoughts?

That's a Vintage Fender tremolo, its not Floyd-Rose (or one of its derivatives). So tuning this one is not a problem. It will lose tuning faster though if you use the tremolo arm frequently. But, the advantage is that you can use different tunings without much trouble.

Tuning a Floyd-Rose is a pain in the ass. But, once tuned, the tuning can stay forever. No matter how much you bend the tremolo arm.

I was reading that thick string E note tuning. Where you first tune it by listening to an mp3 file for that tone or another instrument keys to match it. And then produce other tones using frets on the already tuned thick E string.

Sounds alright to me.

Getting the tone right merely by listening to a note is not easy to accomplish. I've been playing for so long yet I don't get it right all the time. It's better to use a tuner for 1 string and you can tune the rest using the 5th fret technique I mentioned earlier.

This is so that you don't ruin the tuning if your guitar intonation is incorrect. But, if its a new guitar, you can tune all strings using the tuner without any problems.

M

Yeah, tuning by ear is pretty difficult! @Faun, get a electronic tuner!

@Desmond: Thanks for the info on the whammy!

How is this pitchjack tuner, seems to just plug into the guitar and do that tuning.

Guitar and Bass Chromatic Tuner | Korg Pitchjack

Available for 1190
Korg GB-1 Pitchjack Plug-In Guitar and Bass Tuner GB1 | eBay

Mario said:
Yeah, tuning by ear is pretty difficult! @Faun, get a electronic tuner!

@Desmond: Thanks for the info on the whammy!

Ok, then which one is good ? The one I posted in my post of some other.

In strats the idea of trem is to alter a note or two.no fancy divebombing there !

Faun said:
How is this pitchjack tuner, seems to just plug into the guitar and do that tuning.

Guitar and Bass Chromatic Tuner | Korg Pitchjack

Available for 1190
Korg GB-1 Pitchjack Plug-In Guitar and Bass Tuner GB1 | eBay

Ok, then which one is good ? The one I posted in my post of some other.

Well, it wont tune the guitar for you :lol:

, it will only tell you the current tuning of each note. You will have to turn the tuners yourself in the end. DaTuner is more than enough to get your tuning going.

Nanducob said:
In strats the idea of trem is to alter a note or two.no fancy divebombing there !

Why not? Just hit a harmonic and bend the tremolo forward.

^And to get out of tune

@Faun: KORG is the best tuner to buy....even pros recommend it

D

I want to learn music dont know from where to start.I am illiterate in music cant read those tune notations.

.Any suggestions?

^what are u learning(vocals/instruments?)

D

^^My vocal is very bad people will think a fox is crying.I think i will stick with the instruments only. I love piano,guitar & violin.There are few other instruments too but i dont know their name will post them as soon as i find them.I think Indian music is tough to learn therefore i want to try from simple first.What do you suggest?
Btw please tell me what is your specialty i mean what do you play?

^Im trying to play guitar for years lol....what instrument are you interested in?

M

digitfan said:
I want to learn music dont know from where to start.I am illiterate in music cant read those tune notations..Any suggestions?

Read a book on music theory! Western music theory to be precise, if you want to keep it simple!

Faun said:
Ok, then which one is good ? The one I posted in my post of some other.

The one in your post is a good one. You could also try some cheaper ones (~500 bucks) at local music stores, since you are a beginner!

He is a rich beginner. Get th korg one if you want. Or a digitech whammy DT.

D

Mario said:
Read a book on music theory! Western music theory to be precise, if you want to keep it simple!

Thank you for the book name.Btw do you think i should join a class instead.But the charges they are asking is too much for a beginner i think.

^Learn from youtube then

D

Nanducob said:
^Learn from youtube then

^Learn from youtube then

Ok can you give me some good links.I know you cannot learn everything from youtube but i just want to be a music literate.I mean i should be able to read abcd and construct a sentence of my own means make some original tunes of my own.

For a start a harmonica will do.

btw anybody plays bagpipe i love that instrument too.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Best app for tuning is DaTuner.

Make sure that you tune the strings as follows : E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4 (if you are using DaTuner)

So I tuned my guitar using DaTuner. E2 starts from thick wire ?

Time to watch some guitar tutorial vids from L&M.

Faun said:
So I tuned my guitar using DaTuner. E2 starts from thick wire ?

Time to watch some guitar tutorial vids from L&M.

I found gstrings to very simple as compared to DaTuner which has lots of settings
yes E2 is the thick ~~wire~~ string.we call it Low E and the E4 is thin string High E

I found digital interface easy on first try. Haven't tried gstrings.

OMG, this guitar is a beauty. The combo with Fiio G01 and miracle is just so good. So much to learn and so much excitement.

M

digitfan said:
Ok can you give me some good links.I know you cannot learn everything from youtube but i just want to be a music literate.I mean i should be able to read abcd and construct a sentence of my own means make some original tunes of my own.

For a start a harmonica will do. btw anybody plays bagpipe i love that instrument too.

I think you are talking about composition and arrangement.

You need some solid music theory knowledge and either some playing ability (cheap keyboard) or super-duper visualizing-the-music-in-your-head skill to be able to "compose". It will take time unless you are Beethoven/Mozart/Chopin etc!
Read some music theory book, if you don't have any specific instrument choice (you want to be more of a composer than a musician), then buy a cheap keyboard so that you can "hear" what you will be reading. (or else it will just be like reading gibberish)

Another important skill you would need is transcribing - the more you can transcribe accurately, the better ( or at least, the less worse) will be your compositions! Again, this will not come in a day/week/month/year.

Keep doing it and it will happen. Youtube will teach you instrument-playing; for "music literacy", join some music/instrument forums and read up on their music theory or composition threads. One very good place to go would be UG's forums.

Forum member Ghormanas plays bagpipes! Or was he learning? Dont remember exactly...

Faun said:
So I tuned my guitar using DaTuner. E2 starts from thick wire ?

Time to watch some guitar tutorial vids from L&M.

You following Steve Krenz stuff by any chance? If so, initial parts (absolute basics) are ok, later parts are crap! Later parts are more like mugging up the equation without knowing the formula.
The more you advance, try to read some theory and relate your playing stuff with that theory -- of course, this does not apply if you are just "guitar"-ing to impress the fairer sex!

Nanducob said:
^And to get out of tune

Not if you are using a Floyd-Rose suspended bridge tremolo.

Zangetsu said:
@Faun: KORG is the best tuner to buy....even pros recommend it

Agree

digitfan said:
I want to learn music dont know from where to start.I am illiterate in music cant read those tune notations..Any suggestions?

You will have to learn music theory for that. But, don't go that path since it is not necessary to know music theory to play guitar.

Faun said:
So I tuned my guitar using DaTuner. E2 starts from thick wire ?

Time to watch some guitar tutorial vids from L&M.

Yes, all tunings notations progress from thickest string to the thinnest string.

Zangetsu said:
I found gstrings to very simple as compared to DaTuner which has lots of settings
yes E2 is the thick ~~wire~~ string.we call it Low E and the E4 is thin string High E

DaTuner has more features like noise cancellation.

Guys , record and share your instrument playback here . It would be really nice ,.!!

Awaiting.

To anyone who still hasn‘t seen my keyboard vids - *www.youtube.com/musicianofkeyboard

thetechfreak said:
To anyone who still hasn‘t seen my keyboard vids - musicianofkeyboard - YouTube

Thanks for sharing.

thetechfreak said:
To anyone who still hasn‘t seen my keyboard vids - musicianofkeyboard - YouTube

TFS.big linkinpark fan huh :-D

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Here are the pics

*farm9.staticflickr.com/8087/8415847519_b55170c8c4_c.jpg
Classic Vibe Stratocaster '50s by psygeist, on Flickr

*farm9.staticflickr.com/8087/8416952794_6602868dee_c.jpg
Classic Vibe Stratocaster '50s by psygeist, on Flickr

*farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8416964350_b203855b3a_c.jpg
Classic Vibe Stratocaster '50s by psygeist, on Flickr

*farm9.staticflickr.com/8051/8416950830_a413273047_c.jpg
Classic Vibe Stratocaster '50s by psygeist, on Flickr

I thought you were going for an original Fender strat.

^wow nice..sexy.congrats

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I thought you were going for an original Fender strat.

It was always the classic vibe 50.

Nanducob said:
^wow nice..sexy.congrats

Thanks.

Setting the intonation correct means.

On Low E, if plucking free sounds E3 then on 12th fret plucking it should also be E (can be E4, E5, E6) ?

Is this correct ?

^didnt get u..12Fret of E will be a 'E' - but one octave higher.same applies to all strings EADGBe

Nanducob said:
^didnt get u..12Fret of E will be a 'E' - but one octave higher.same applies to all strings EADGBe

Yeah, so if free plucking on a string produces E2 then at 12 fret for the same string it should be E3 ?

Yup,if your guitar had 24 frets-the 24 fretted note on E string will be E4 and so on...

^^it's a 21 fret guitar. Fingers are sore already. Started with spacing of fingers.

M

Nice axe! IMHO would have looked even better if you had gotten rid of that "Classic Vibe" sticker!

Faun said:
It was always the classic vibe 50.

Thanks.

Setting the intonation correct means.

On Low E, if plucking free sounds E3 then on 12th fret plucking it should also be E (can be E4, E5, E6) ?

Is this correct ?

But its a Squier....

Anyway,

If your intonation is not correct, picking the 12th fret will not be a E3, but rather a little sharp or flat. Therefore, even if your guitar is tuned correctly on the open frets, as you play on the higher frets, your chords will begin to suck.

Mario said:
Nice axe! IMHO would have looked even better if you had gotten rid of that "Classic Vibe" sticker!

It makes up for the classic vibe

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
But its a Squier....

Anyway,

If your intonation is not correct, picking the 12th fret will not be a E3, but rather a little sharp or flat. Therefore, even if your guitar is tuned correctly on the open frets, as you play on the higher frets, your chords will begin to suck.

Classic Vibe is not much behind Fenders. Classic Vibe 50 is much more praised in strat-talk forum.

Intonations is good enough. I adjusted the saddles.

D

Ok thanks guys.

G

Any one here tried adjusting the truss rod on the accoustic guitar ?
So I took out my guitar after a long time & its bent forward. I fixed it a little today but everytime I turn the wrench, It feels it'll break.

Gen.Libeb said:
Any one here tried adjusting the truss rod on the accoustic guitar ?
So I took out my guitar after a long time & its bent forward. I fixed it a little today but everytime I turn the wrench, It feels it'll break.

try slowly,like turn the rod about 1/4 rotation,leave it for 5 minutes or so,then turn the next 1/4 rotation,rest etc.

G

Nanducob said:
try slowly,like turn the rod about 1/4 rotation,leave it for 5 minutes or so,then turn the next 1/4 rotation,rest etc.

I've turned it a little since yesterday & it is playable upto the 8th fret.
Now I can't rotate it clockwise anymore, it can go anticlockwise, but clockwise it is stuck.

Gen.Libeb said:
I've turned it a little since yesterday & it is playable upto the 8th fret.
Now I can't rotate it clockwise anymore, it can go anticlockwise, but clockwise it is stuck.

General,I had the same problem when i had my acoustic and i think theres a limit in the truss rod,after it doesnt work clockwise but we can loosen in anticlockwise.Adjusting the bridge did work for me,then.So what about 9 to 20 frets?Is it unplayable because the string touches the frets causing buzz or is it the 1 to 8 frets that are causing the problem?(hope youve got what im saying)

G

Nanducob said:
General,I had the same problem when i had my acoustic and i think theres a limit in the truss rod,after it doesnt work clockwise but we can loosen in anticlockwise.Adjusting the bridge did work for me,then.So what about 9 to 20 frets?Is it unplayable because the string touches the frets causing buzz or is it the 1 to 8 frets that are causing the problem?(hope youve got what im saying)

The strings from 5 onwards start getting far away from the frets, from 8-9 they get a bit too far to be playable.

Gen.Libeb said:
The strings from 5 onwards start getting far away from the frets, from 8-9 they get a bit too far to be playable.

That means the action is too high.Have u tightened the truss rod(clockwise) with out loosening the strings?if so remove the strings and see if there is any rotation left in clockwise direction.Be noted that the truss rod is used to straighten the neck(not to lower the action,even if it lowers a little action,it is not the 'remedy')Another thing to do is to lower the bridge(2 screws b/w high and low e on the bridge) slowly while checking for least possible minimal fret buzz(playable) on the first fret of all strings.If that didnt work remove the neck(4 screws) without removing the strings and see if the neck joint is parallel to the neck,try to adjust it.

3 things to note
1)check if the neck is straight
2)Adjust the bridge
3)Check the neck joint is parallel to neck.

G

I think I've adjusted the truss rod to max possible in the clockwise direction. I haven't yet tried lowering the bridge, Will do this later. Lowering the saddle might be some good.
The neck is not removable so can't do anything about that.
Thanks for all your help.

Currently deciphering Lara's Theme on my keyboard. Its hard to get the rhythm right.

Gen.Libeb said:
I think I've adjusted the truss rod to max possible in the clockwise direction. I haven't yet tried lowering the bridge, Will do this later. Lowering the saddle might be some good.
The neck is not removable so can't do anything about that.
Thanks for all your help.

youre welcome.
So people, always buy a guitar with removable neck,(so that if something happens you could always replace the neck),unless its a Joe Satriani guitar

JojoTheDragon said:
Currently deciphering Lara's Theme on my keyboard. Its hard to get the rhythm right.

Keep on playing.Cheers.

What if the guitar doesn't have a truss rod ?

Is there a way to decrease the action then ?

axes2t2 said:
What if the guitar doesn't have a truss rod ?

Is there a way to decrease the action then ?

hey,truss is used to straighten the neck.Usually its the acoustic steel string guitars which have truss rod in it and acoustic classical/nylon string guitars which have no truss rods.A truss rod is a must for acoustic steel string guitar, if theres no truss rod,the neck will warp easily.dont know if we can decrease the action,the guitar would be unplayable.

Maybe adjusting the bridge and neck will reduce it.

My old Grason guitar is having a high action.

axes2t2 said:
My old Grason guitar is having a high action.

Does it have a truss rod?

Nanducob said:
Does it have a truss rod?

Truss rod is the hole below the fret board or ?

axes2t2 said:
Truss rod is the hole below the fret board or ?

It supports the whole fretboard...
generally u will see a screw beneath the last fret (if u look inside sound hole)

*munix.dk/files/mu/refretting-fender-jazz-bass/turn-truss-rod-w-allen-socket-wrench-2-quarters-clockwise.jpg

axes2t2 said:
Truss rod is the hole below the fret board or ?

youve got lucky.Now screw that ! i mean rotate it clockwise

that should reduce some action.

Arre then the truss rod is not there in my Grason.

^lol then try lowering the bridge..

axes2t2 said:
Arre then the truss rod is not there in my Grason.

Impossible! Every guitar has a truss rod. If not under the sound hole, then it has to be near the headstock.

Hey Desmond you asked about the technique used by Baiju[motherjane guitarist]Here's one live video of him,his rendition of mile sur mera tumhara.I think he uses quick hammerons and slides and sometimes tremelo.btw The song starts @ 2:30 :mrgreen:

The guitars's body resembles an Ibanez prestige 1570?[not sure because of the fret inlays and the input for the cord is below the knobs as in the 'S' series][.the amp is a Laney lionheart l50h head.

here's an interview !

A rendezvous with the 'God of Small Strings' - Baiju Dharmajan - CoolAge

and heres' how sex sounds like

This is fun
Misc Computer Games - Metro 2033 Theme Tab Online | UG Plus @ Ultimate-Guitar.com

@Nandu,

I asked people on the UG forums they say that its simple distortion along with the tremolo bar, nothing special about it. The scale that he uses (probably a Harmonic minor) gives it an Indian flavour.

M

axes2t2 said:
What if the guitar doesn't have a truss rod ?

Is there a way to decrease the action then ?

Take off saddle - rub lower end of saddle against sand paper - fit into guitar - check action - repeat from step 1 as required.

axes2t2 said:
Truss rod is the hole below the fret board or ?

Look inside soundhole towards where the neck attaches to the body - if there's a hole there, thats where your truss adjustment rod goes in, else its near headstock.

No hole anywhere.

axes2t2 said:
No hole anywhere.

In that case, it will be near the headstock. It must be covered by a plastic cover.

Can you give a pic of your guitar?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
In that case, it will be near the headstock. It must be covered by a plastic cover.

Can you give a pic of your guitar?

This one

*i.imgur.com/JUAou.jpg

If the truss rod hole is not under your sound hole, then it must be near the headstock under that while plastic cover over there.

Not over there either.

axes2t2 said:
Not over there either.

Then it is not a Guitar :lol:

Maybe they forgot to put the truss rod that time -_-

Zangetsu said:
Then it is not a Guitar

ditto.....

Zangetsu said:
Then it is not a Guitar

But seriously,any solution ?

axes2t2 said:
But seriously,any solution ?

Forced trussrod reassingment

maybe the guitar neck is made of steel/iron....

Faun said:
This is fun
Misc Computer Games - Metro 2033 Theme Tab Online | UG Plus @ Ultimate-Guitar.com

here's a funny theme:

A--1s2-------4s5--

then
A--1s2---4s5---

then
D--5s4--

Nanducob said:
Forced trussrod reassingment

lol..Cattle Decapitation. They are coming to India, BTW. See the irony.

Nanducob said:
here's a funny theme:

A--1s2-------4s5--

then
A--1s2---4s5---

then
D--5s4--

What theme is this? I don't have my guitar right now so can't play it and see.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
lol..Cattle Decapitation. They are coming to India, BTW. See the irony.

What theme is this? I don't have my guitar right now so can't play it and see.

lol pretty sick video it is,cant see that for a second time and it is the intro of the 'pink panther' theme.

I saw it three times, don't feel anythign now.

I think its more like :

D--1s2--4s5--1s2--4s5--9s8--1s2--6s5--5s4--1s2

M

axes2t2 said:
But seriously,any solution ?

Just visit your nearest guitar/instrument store or local luthier.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I saw it three times, don't feel anythign now.

I think its more like :

D--1s2--4s5--1s2--4s5--9s8--1s2--6s5--5s4--1s2

how do you read that ?

D string - 1s2 ??

So, I have been learning some simple rhythms. Is it ok to start learning like that. I guess that keeps the interest going on.

Faun said:
how do you read that ?

D string - 1s2 ??

So, I have been learning some simple rhythms. Is it ok to start learning like that. I guess that keeps the interest going on.

1 slide 2

Faun said:
So, I have been learning some simple rhythms. Is it ok to start learning like that. I guess that keeps the interest going on.

start from Open Chords such as E,A,Am,C
watch a youtube video of 'Axis of Awesome'....using only 4 chords one can play 100 songs or more than that

I'd say that you learn shifting first. Learn by shifting from A to D to E till you are confident that you can shift between these subconsciously. Then go for G to C to D (i.e One step lower than the previous progression).

Which is the best sounding chord ?

axes2t2 said:
Which is the best sounding chord ?

Obvious noob is obvious...

Depends upon the music you are trying to play. If you are playing Jazz, try add9 or Maj7 chords. For blues, try 7th Chords. For Rock/Metal go for 5th Chords (aka Power chords). There is no fixed definition for best sounding chord.

Try some of these chords:

Amaj7 X02120
Dmaj7 XX0222
Cadd9 X32030
Fadd9 XX3210

Darling,I was asking in terms of a personal favorite.

Gee five,Bee minor

M

My "favorite" chord right now is Em11 -- go figure

axes2t2 said:
Which is the best sounding chord ?

Some chords sound sweet in Arpeggio some chord progression sound best...so it depends

but as per music they are divided into Happy,Sad,Twangy etc

The saddest chord is D minor(me)

Happy, sad, etc are noobspeak in guitar.

But IMHO, saddest is Em.

M

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Happy, sad, etc are noobspeak in guitar.

But IMHO, saddest is Em.

Also the second easiest

blah...I broke the G String while tuning :evil:

(never expected that chord to break)

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Happy, sad, etc are noobspeak in guitar.

But IMHO, saddest is Em.

Minor chords are soft & sometimes sad
Major chords are Happy
Major 7th chords are sweet,dreamy,bright & jazzy
Minor 7th chords are Mellow & jazzy
7th chords are Twangy,bluesy and funky sounding (like A7,B7 etc)

I love Reggae very much

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Happy, sad, etc are noobspeak in guitar.

But IMHO, saddest is Em.

You are also a noob since you said 'saddest'

You have be careful with the G-string everywhere

Also,what are y'all favorite chord progression's,like you can't think of any song to play and just want to jam out.

^We have to be careful with high e string since it is more prone to breaking

My high e string broke today,i didnt have any spares left exept for an old b string.So i put it in place of the e string and tuned to e.lol now it sounds like sitar lol :))

G

Nanducob said:
^We have to be careful with high e string since it is more prone to breaking

My high e string broke today,i didnt have any spares left exept for an old b string.So i put it in place of the e string and tuned to e.lol now it sounds like sitar lol

Does it sound right ? I've broken the high E string twice. now I have 2 spare sets of strings without the high E, the shop guys don't sell individual strings.

L

Some stores do sell spare high e strings... But they only have crappy brands like karuna etc usually

Nanducob said:
You are also a noob since you said 'saddest'

I was keeping up with the general lingo you guys got going here.

axes2t2 said:
You have be careful with the G-string everywhere

Also,what are y'all favorite chord progression's,like you can't think of any song to play and just want to jam out.

Seriously, I've broken the G string more than the high E string.

Some chord progressions :

Em-C-G-D - Holiday by Green Day

C#m-A-G#m-G - Harvest by Opeth

One that I've been doing recently : Dm-F-C-G then Dm-Am-F-C

One more : Am E Am G C G Am E

Nanducob said:
^We have to be careful with high e string since it is more prone to breaking

My high e string broke today,i didnt have any spares left exept for an old b string.So i put it in place of the e string and tuned to e.lol now it sounds like sitar lol

Better to replace it with a crappy E string than another string.

livfstdieyoung said:
Some stores do sell spare high e strings... But they only have crappy brands like karuna etc usually

Karuna strings get dull pretty soon, not to mentioned rusted. That's why I'd prefer to replace the whole set than replace a single string.

Gen.Libeb said:
Does it sound right ? I've broken the high E string twice. now I have 2 spare sets of strings without the high E, the shop guys don't sell individual strings.

you can tune it to e,but it doesnt sound alright,but its better than playing with 5 strings..

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Better to replace it with a crappy E string than another string.

both strings broke:/(2 'e's).will buy tomorrow.btw crappiest string i ever had was 'reynaulds'.

Nanducob said:
you can tune it to e,but it doesnt sound alright,but its better than playing with 5 strings..

both strings broke:/(2 'e's).will buy tomorrow.btw crappiest string i ever had was 'reynaulds'.

Or you can play only power chords.

G,B & High E are more susceptible to breaking....the two Big Boss strings E & A are ironman strings (very rare they will break)
and to protect strings from rusting always clean the strings after done playing coz u know the sweat from hands has salt in it and corrosion occurs from that point
how many of u can play pentatonic scale?

so there is no string which can resist corrosion ?

Faun said:
so there is no string which can resist corrosion ?

nylon strings :))

And for electric guitars elixir nanoweb strings are considered to last long.

Zangetsu said:
how many of u can play pentatonic scale?

The first scale I learned. Can play it in three patterns.

G

Not sure if this is the right place to ask.
Can you guys suggest bands similar to - Three days grace / Linkin Park / Story of the Year / Evanescence ... that genre, not really much difficult to play & tuning in drop D or Drop Db or standard tuning.

Gen.Libeb said:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask.
Can you guys suggest bands similar to - Three days grace / Linkin Park / Story of the Year / Evanescence ... that genre, not really much difficult to play & tuning in drop D or Drop Db or standard tuning.

Nirvana songs are easy to play(std tuning)

Deciphering Lara's theme. And re inventing "Stroll on". Keeps the motivation on.

Nanducob said:
Nirvana songs are easy to play(std tuning)

Yup.

Also most Three Days Grace songs are in dropped D so no problem there.

My way is to just search the chords for the song that I like and start strumming.

Any other keyboard players except me and TTF ?

JojoTheDragon said:
Any other keyboard players except me and TTF ?

Yes, but left it long back.

JojoTheDragon said:
Any other keyboard players except me and TTF ?

there's one more user.. i guess its aaruni(not sure)

Can some1 teach me the chords of For The Greater Good Of God-IroN MaIDeN. You can make a video tutorial yourself and share it.

bubusam13 said:
Can some1 teach me the chords of For The Greater Good Of God-IroN MaIDeN. You can make a video tutorial yourself and share it.

what?its not in youtube

?

no

not

Doesnt seems hard

For The Greater Good Of God Tab by Iron Maiden @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Hey guys..
I changed the G-String and started tuning but
I can still hear the open G string buzz (when the string touches fret line)...
found that the G-String is touching the 2nd fret line...what is the problem?

Detune and tune again ?

axes2t2 said:
Detune and tune again ?

Tried that but no success

Zangetsu said:
Tried that but no success

check if the string is properly laid on the bridge...

abhidev said:
check if the string is properly laid on the bridge...

sting on bridge is fine too...

when I pluck the g string from 3~4 fret the buzz is not there but on 1 & 2 fret buzz is there

^Check the nut,the string must be laid lower on the nut in your case,that maybe be causing the buzz.

M

Along with all the other advice, check the fret itself where you get the buzz... is it poking out a bit too much compared to the others? Or is it too worn down?

In any case, your last resort is also your best --> visit local luthier.

Zangetsu said:
Hey guys..
I changed the G-String and started tuning but
I can still hear the open G string buzz (when the string touches fret line)...
found that the G-String is touching the 2nd fret line...what is the problem?

Bent neck probably.

Guys we should start sharing some tabs here.

Guess this one.

E--------------10------------------------
B------------------10--11--10----------10
G--12--12--12------------------12--10--
D----------------------------------------
A----------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------

E------------------------------------------
B------10--------------10--11--10------------
G--12------12--10--12--------------12--10----
D------------------------------------------12-
A--------------------------------------------
E--------------------------------------------

E--15--12--13--12----------------------10--11------------------
B------------------13--11------11--13----------13--11--10------
G--------------------------12------------------------------12--
D--------------------------------------------------------------
A--------------------------------------------------------------
E--------------------------------------------------------------

E--------------------------------------
B------10--11--11--11--11--10----------
G--12--------------------------10--12--
D--------------------------------------
A--------------------------------------
E--------------------------------------

I will have to check this out when I get home.

In the meanwhile....

My cover of the Paranoid solo.

Impressive.

Is the guitar sound going directly in the pc or ?

axes2t2 said:
Impressive.

Is the guitar sound going directly in the pc or ?

Nope, its the phones mic. Will try routing through the PC some other time

G

axes2t2 said:
Guys we should start sharing some tabs here.
Guess this one.

Sounds like the Air Tel theme.

yupsss

A riff I was fooling around on.

Sample riff 1 by Desmond David on SoundCloud - Hear the world

Notes:
-Use only the top two strings.
-All the 0's are palm muted (the string is slightly touched with the palm at the bridge).
-The fretted notes are not palm muted.

Code:

A---------------------------------------------------------------
E--0-0-0-0-7---0-0-0-0-5---0-0-0-0-3---0-0-0-0-2---0-0-0-0-2/3--

A----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-0-0-0-0-7---0-0-0-0-5---0-0-0-0-3---0-0-0-0-2---0-0-0-0-3/2---0-0-0-0-7---0-0-0-0-5---0-0-0-0-3---0-0-0-0-2---0-0-0-0-2/3--

A--------------------------------------4/5---------4/5--2~~~
E--0-0-0-0-7--0-0-0-0-5--0-0-0-0--0--0--2/3--0--0--2/3--0~~~

^hey the tabs highly unreadable,is it because im browsing via phone?

Yes, try reading on Desktop. Try listening to the riff on Soundcloud if you can.

Recommend me a good violin. I can see Granada and Hofner in furtados online.

Dude, learning Violin requires a lot of time. You will have to quit your job just to get good at it.

Both brands are good, if you want to get into it. But keep budget of at least 7k when going in for one.

Faun said:
Recommend me a good violin. I can see Granada and Hofner in furtados online.

heheheh

any plans to stop guitar-ing?

It's not for me

I love my guitar.

@Desmond Can you point me to one of the good beginner violin in Furtados online ? I see so many Granada's

Granada is pretty good. You can get it at their store as well. But I am no expert, you should take someone who knows about violins to the store with you.

Violin is a sweet instrument....difficult to master

Suggest me some dramatic songs that would be best suited for childhood lost, orphanage, sadcore, painful kinda music.

rider said:
Suggest me some dramatic songs that would be best suited for childhood lost, orphanage, sadcore, painful kinda music.

This is the music from the game Nethack - Falcon's Eye, which I used to play as a kid. Dug out the game and shared the Midi :

*www.dropbox.com/s/akpeis73oftppeo/lament1.mid

*www.dropbox.com/s/wr77j747ptt65cb/lament2.mid

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
This is the music from the game Nethack - Falcon's Eye, which I used to play as a kid. Dug out the game and shared the Midi :

*www.dropbox.com/s/akpeis73oftppeo/lament1.mid

*www.dropbox.com/s/wr77j747ptt65cb/lament2.mid

It's reaaly cool but I am looking for some songs.

rider said:
It's reaaly cool but I am looking for some songs.

Try this :

The lyrics are about a child born from a test tube who does not know who his/her mother is. Mutter means mother in German.

Please any english or hindi song only.

rider said:
Please any english or hindi song only.

Will have to dig more. I don't touch Hindi songs with a 10 foot pole, so can't really help you there.

Why do you need it?

Type O Negative make depressing and sad music mostly, try this :

rider said:
Please any english or hindi song only.

Dont know any childhood lost kinda songs.if youre looking for just sad songs,try
Jeff Buckley-Forget Her
Jeff Buckley-Lover You Shouldve Come Over
Nirvana-Something In The Way
Nirvana-Where Did You Sleep Last Night
Alice In Chains-Love Hate Love
Led Zeppelin-Babe Im Gonna Leave You

Also,

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I don't touch Hindi songs with a 10 foot pole

hehe

sing me to sleep.........

that's one song you should be listening to @rider.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Will have to dig more. I don't touch Hindi songs with a 10 foot pole, so can't really help you there.

Why do you need it?

Alright not any hindi songs. English songs are okay. That was was in german, that's why I said.

My cover of Born In Winter by Gojira.

D C D C A G F

D C D C A G F G

Guess ?

^Any other Clue?

^Any other Clue?

axes2t2 said:
D C D C A G F

D C D C A G F G

Guess ?

I will go home and play it and tell.

Nanducob said:
^Any other Clue?

^Any other Clue?

Okay the D and C are on the 2nd string.

Are those chords or notes?

Edit :

Do you mean :

e --------------------------------------
B -3-1-3-1-------3-1-3-1-------------
G ----------2-0---------------2-0---0-
D ---------------3-----------------3---
A --------------------------------------
E --------------------------------------

I have no clue either way.

You will probably need fiber for that.

Yup just simple notes.

No clue. What is it?

Ajeeb Dastan hein ye :razz:

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I don't touch Hindi songs with a 10 foot pole

lol same here... especially the filmy songs. those are SO full of s-hit.

What do you guys play when random guests see your guitar and tell you to 'play something' ?

I get completely blanked out at that point.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
My cover of Born In Winter by Gojira.

Nice

axes2t2 said:
What do you guys play when random guests see your guitar and tell you to 'play something' ?

I get completely blanked out at that point.

I first warn them that they might not like what I am going to play. Then I proceed to play my improvisation on the Pentatonic or Harmonic Minor (my favorite) scale.

anirbandd said:
lol same here... especially the filmy songs. those are SO full of s-hit.

That's comforting to know that I am not alone.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
That's comforting to know that I am not alone.

all the way dude.. a'' the fu(kin way..

V

axes2t2 said:
What do you guys play when random guests see your guitar and tell you to 'play something' ?

I get completely blanked out at that point.

Usually I ask the guests only to suggest a song. And most suggest some filmy songs which in the most cases might have been already performed in some concert, thereby making it easy for me.
If the guest is someone knowledgeable in music, then there is a lot to choose from Bach, Mozart, Beethoven etc. When it comes to guitar, scales some random chord progressions are always there .

Hi guys,

is it possible to replace a trussrod?

Vignesh B said:
Usually I ask the guests only to suggest a song. And most suggest some filmy songs which in the most cases might have been already performed in some concert, thereby making it easy for me.
If the guest is someone knowledgeable in music, then there is a lot to choose from Bach, Mozart, Beethoven etc. When it comes to guitar, scales some random chord progressions are always there .

take a bow

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys,

is it possible to replace a trussrod?

I don't think so, but I have never seen someone do something like that. Ask your local music store.

Vignesh B said:
Usually I ask the guests only to suggest a song. And most suggest some filmy songs which in the most cases might have been already performed in some concert, thereby making it easy for me.
If the guest is someone knowledgeable in music, then there is a lot to choose from Bach, Mozart, Beethoven etc. When it comes to guitar, scales some random chord progressions are always there .

Lets hear you play.

V

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys,

is it possible to replace a trussrod?

It can be possible but requires a lot of work. Some shops do that but majority will try to fend off your request.
Personally, I do suggest against it. Not worth taking the risk.

anirbandd said:
take a bow

Give a bow to those geniuses who have made all those goose-bumps inducing compositions.

@Desmond : Was just going through your you-tube channel. Have to say, you've got a good pair of flexible fingers on your hand.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Lets hear you play.

I have never uploaded anything on the internet as yet. Most of my performances are in orchestras. Will upload some this coming weekend.

Had an old recording of the turkish march lying around. Created an account in sound cloud and uploaded it. Bear with me for the off-rhythm notes.
*soundcloud.com/vigneshb/turkish-march-1

Vignesh B said:
It can be possible but requires a lot of work. Some shops do that but majority will try to fend off your request.
Personally, I do suggest against it. Not worth taking the risk.

Give a bow to those geniuses who have made all those goose-bumps inducing compositions.

@Desmond : Was just going through your you-tube channel. Have to say, you've got a good pair of flexible fingers on your hand.

I have never uploaded anything on the internet as yet. Most of my performances are in orchestras. Will upload some this coming weekend.

Had an old recording of the turkish march lying around. Created an account in sound cloud and uploaded it. Bear with me for the off-rhythm notes.
*soundcloud.com/vigneshb/turkish-march-1

You seem like a pro on the keyboard.

Vignesh B said:
Give a bow to those geniuses who have made all those goose-bumps inducing compositions.

Had an old recording of the turkish march lying around. Created an account in sound cloud and uploaded it. Bear with me for the off-rhythm notes.
*soundcloud.com/vigneshb/turkish-march-1

no YOU take a bow.

awesome.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I don't think so, but I have never seen someone do something like that. Ask your local music store.

even,I've not seen it

Vignesh B said:
It can be possible but requires a lot of work. Some shops do that but majority will try to fend off your request.
Personally, I do suggest against it. Not worth taking the risk.

r u sure...I gave my guitar for repair the vendor said the rod is broken.....need to change

V

Zangetsu said:
r u sure...I gave my guitar for repair the vendor said the rod is broken.....need to change

Perhaps this video might help.

My cover of My Own Summer by Deftones.

V

^^ That's impressive.

One small suggestion though - keep your guitar's volume a bit knotch more than the track's volume.

Vignesh B said:
^^ That's impressive.
One small suggestion though - keep your guitar's volume a bit knotch more than the track's volume.

The backing track is actually lower already.

If you listen to the 1 second before I start playing, you can hear the difference.

V

^^ Ok, noticed now.
Then, I have to say that your tone selection is pretty good.

Vignesh B said:
^^ Ok, noticed now.
Then, I have to say that your tone selection is pretty good.

I have done nothing much for the tone. Only kept the Gain around 50% and kept the Tone around 75%, used the neck pickup for a fat sound. Tuning is dropped Db.

V

I did another upload now of Le Coucou - *soundcloud.com/vigneshb/daquin-pierre-barbizet-1981-le
There are a few errors though in the timings

. I used to play it much better earlier, now my fingers are rebelling against me.

Out of practice probably. How often do you play everyday?

V

These days, pretty rarely. Earlier I used to spend around 8-10 hours per day.
Have to start practicing again. But can't spend much time due to studies etc.

Vignesh B said:
These days, pretty rarely. Earlier I used to spend around 8-10 hours per day.
Have to start practicing again. But can't spend much time due to studies etc.

8-10 hours!? Dude, you are a pro already.

I spend about 1-2 hours everyday but not very often because of office shifts.

V

That's flattering to hear.

Have worked as session keyboardist for SEL & Amit Trivedi Sir. Still a lot to learn though. Am a mere drop in the vast ocean!
You play guitars as a hobby?

As of now guitars for me is just a hobby.

hey Desmond do people tell you to 'teach' them guitars ? What do you say to them ?

Vignesh B said:
That's flattering to hear.
Have worked as session keyboardist for SEL & Amit Trivedi Sir. Still a lot to learn though. Am a mere drop in the vast ocean!
You play guitars as a hobby?

Yeah. Been looking for people to start a band, but cannot find anyone. Need bassist and drummer at least.

axes2t2 said:
As of now guitars for me is just a hobby.

hey Desmond do people tell you to 'teach' them guitars ? What do you say to them ?

I teach them but they get bored. No one wants to learn the fundamentals. They learn three chords and think themselves guitarists.

Gibson Guitar: Min-ETune

Nanducob said:
Gibson Guitar: Min-ETune

This is even better : EverTune | Keep Your Guitar in Tune Forever

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I teach them but they get bored. No one wants to learn the fundamentals. They learn three chords and think themselves guitarists.

QFT...I just snap back "I don't like to teach" or "1500/month only"

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
This is even better : EverTune | Keep Your Guitar in Tune Forever

both are different things.the first one changes tuning accordingly,the latter helps to keep in tune forever.

Nanducob said:
both are different things.the first one changes tuning accordingly,the latter helps to keep in tune forever.

Well, the site doesn't state if it works on Floyd-rose bridges. Also, all guitars featured have fixed bridges.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Well, the site doesn't state if it works on Floyd-rose bridges. Also, all guitars featured have fixed bridges.

so the evertune works in FR bridges?

Nanducob said:
so the evertune works in FR bridges?

Floyd Rose is a bridge, just like the Evertune bridge. You will have to replace a Floyd rose with an Evertune bridge.

*cough cough*

axes2t2 said:
*cough cough*

What's wrong?

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@DeSmOnD dAvId - I saw your youtube channel & you have a Pink Floyd cover. Ever tried the "Comfortably Numb" solo ?
Been trying since morning but having problems on the second part.

Gen.Libeb said:
@DeSmOnD dAvId - I saw your youtube channel & you have a Pink Floyd cover. Ever tried the "Comfortably Numb" solo ?
Been trying since morning but having problems on the second part.

Thanks for reminding, I need to get a go at it.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
What's wrong?

Nothing,just revived the topic.

:razz:

Hi guys,

I need Hotel California Intro Tabs (if you've listen to the song) the opening intro I looked all over but couldn't find the accurate one

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys,

I need Hotel California Intro Tabs (if you've listen to the song) the opening intro I looked all over but couldn't find the accurate one

Guitar or keyboard? If keyboard I can record a video for you :wink:

thetechfreak said:
Guitar or keyboard? If keyboard I can record a video for you

Guitar one...but do post keyboard one also :mrgreen:

any one expert in mouth organ in TDF?

I'll try but it will take some time.

Zangetsu said:
Hi guys,

I need Hotel California Intro Tabs (if you've listen to the song) the opening intro I looked all over but couldn't find the accurate one

I don't play the accurate one, in the accurate one, you need to capo the 5th (or 7th) fret, I don't remember which.

The one I play goes like this : Bm-F-A-E-G-D-Em-F

If you want the Hell Freezes Over live intro :

^thanks desmo

the chord progression u have posted is for the strumming pattern right... :wink:

@Zangetsu I will record the intro of Hotel California if possible soon. But I have the ending solo recorded

thetechfreak said:
@Zangetsu I will record the intro of Hotel California if possible soon. But I have the ending solo recorded

Which keyboard do you have? Do you have a pitch shift pedal on it?

Great job BTW

Zangetsu said:
^thanks desmo

the chord progression u have posted is for the strumming pattern right...

Yes. Intro and verse. I have not included the chorus chord progression because I don't remember.

^^

That's a Roland GW7. I don't have a pitch pedal. I have a pitch band(a handle like thing for bending). But wasn't able to use it during the video as I was recording with my left hand

Your Guitar cover is also very good. Nice job there

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes. Intro and verse. I have not included the chorus chord progression because I don't remember.

can u also give me the Tab :mrgreen:

Edit : Any of you guys interested in Music Production?

As in ?

Producing music. Like what people do to make movie soundtracks, etc. Its called music direction in bollywood.

Basically it means you use a studio setup to make music. However, you can also use DAWs to make studio quality soundtracks at home. Some DAWS are LMMS, Ableton Live and FL Studio. LMMS is free and relatively easier to use

Could explain more, but on phone now.

Interesting.

Now that I am on a PC.

Having a DAW is like having a whole recording studio in your house. You can use plugins and effects just like in a studio and create high quality soundtracks.

This is what I made while fooling around with LMMS.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/trial-and-error

If anyone of you is interested in giving this a go, you can get LMMS from here : *lmms.sourceforge.net/

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/trial-and-error

There's nothing there.

Is Cubase a DAW? Never bothered to use it though. I got the Cubase dvd with something I bought.

Gen.Libeb said:
There's nothing there.

Is Cubase a DAW? Never bothered to use it though. I got the Cubase dvd with something I bought.

Probably because its set to private. Let me make it public.

Yes, Cubase is a decent DAW. Never used it so cannot comment.

Eye To Eye with Lyrics by Taher Shah - [OFFICIAL] - YouTube

^ Dude , don't spoil this thread .

desmond david said:
now that i am on a pc.

Having a daw is like having a whole recording studio in your house. You can use plugins and effects just like in a studio and create high quality soundtracks.

This is what i made while fooling around with lmms.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/trial-and-error

if anyone of you is interested in giving this a go, you can get lmms from here : LMMS - Linux MultiMedia Studio

fixed!

Edit : Did the first solo of Comfortably Numb today. Its not very perfect but just enough to understand how to play it. Will cover the second solo later.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/pink-floyd-comfortably-numb-1

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
fixed!

Edit : Did the first solo of Comfortably Numb today. Its not very perfect but just enough to understand how to play it. Will cover the second solo later.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/pink-floyd-comfortably-numb-1

Checked out your "Comfortably Numb" solo. Its nice.
Try improving the bends on the 15th fret (around 0:05 & 0:13) ,, don't bring them back.

One week & I'm still having lots of problems on the 2nd solo of "Comfortably Numb".
Meanwhile also trying the first solo on "November Rain" -by Guns n Roses. Its not that fast but the bends on it are a bit difficult to make them sound exact. The 2nd one on it is impossible for me.

Thanks, but I am not very happy with it. I am finding the transitioning from the 15th fret bend to the three strings on the 14th fret to be tricky, probably practice will fix that.

The second solo is pretty long, I don't think I can play it exactly as it is and perhaps I will have to improvise a lot. You will need to have a good memory and patience but it will be worth it in the end.

GnR solos are pretty easy actuallly but the bends can be pretty tricky in any song. I can do full half bends but full bends are very stressful on my fingers (I use 10-54 gauge steel strings).

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Producing music. Like what people do to make movie soundtracks, etc. Its called music direction in bollywood.

Basically it means you use a studio setup to make music. However, you can also use DAWs to make studio quality soundtracks at home. Some DAWS are LMMS, Ableton Live and FL Studio. LMMS is free and relatively easier to use

Could explain more, but on phone now.

I tried using Reaper.
With LMMS, can I add effects on the guitar (distortion, reverb .. all those ?). Basically I want to plug the guitar into the pc
There's a slight delay though with the guitar now on Reaper. May be I need Asio drivers.

Gen.Libeb said:
I tried using Reaper.
With LMMS, can I add effects on the guitar (distortion, reverb .. all those ?). Basically I want to plug the guitar into the pc
There's a slight delay though with the guitar now on Reaper. May be I need Asio drivers.

Yes, but I don't think it will be very polished. Because effectively you would be recording clean and then adding effects over it. But it is best suited for creating MIDI based soundtracks.

If you want to record guitar, its better if you get something like Line 6 POD Studio USB recording interface. Couple this with POD Farm and you will virtually never run out of effects, amp cabinets, ,amp models or stompboxes.

The delay you speak of is because the audio drivers that you use for recording are not very efficient for recording in realtime because of some inefficient AD conversion algorithm. Yes, ASIO would resolve the lag, but it is licensed by Steinberg. There is a free but experimental alternative at ASIO4ALL - Universal ASIO Driver but I haven't tried it yet. This should effectively remove any lag.

As of now, the most efficient method would be to use the POD Studio I mentioned above.

Edit : The ASIO driver available on asio4all needs to be compiled with Audacity in order to be used. There is no workaround that I know of. Also, I am not sure if there are any DAWs that support it.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes, but I don't think it will be very polished. Because effectively you would be recording clean and then adding effects over it. But it is best suited for creating MIDI based soundtracks.

If you want to record guitar, its better if you get something like Line 6 POD Studio USB recording interface. Couple this with POD Farm and you will virtually never run out of effects, amp cabinets, ,amp models or stompboxes.

The delay you speak of is because the audio drivers that you use for recording are not very efficient for recording in realtime because of some inefficient AD conversion algorithm. Yes, ASIO would resolve the lag, but it is licensed by Steinberg. There is a free but experimental alternative at ASIO4ALL - Universal ASIO Driver but I haven't tried it yet. This should effectively remove any lag.

As of now, the most efficient method would be to use the POD Studio I mentioned above.

Edit : The ASIO driver available on asio4all needs to be compiled with Audacity in order to be used. There is no workaround that I know of. Also, I am not sure if there are any DAWs that support it.

No, I don't want to record anything. Not playing clean either, I only want to be able to play guitar & simulate amp as I play using (some VST plugin may be ?).
I already have RP255 & it works fine but I want to get it out of the picture.

I meant Asio4All drivers only. they worked fine before on windows XP though I don't remember setting them up. Had tried Kristal & Amplitube trials. I'll see more how Reaper goes today when I get home.

The Line 6 Pod Studio has a audio out which you can attach to any amp. So, you set up your effects chain on your PC using POD Farm and get output on your amp.

Also, POD Farm is way better than most hardware multi effects pedals since you have an option for a huge library of effects and amp models. Many professionals use it as well.

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I saw the Line 6 Pod & it sure looks nice. But I was not planning to buy anything at the moment so may be someday in future.

I tried Free Amp by fretted synth plugin in Reaper yesterday & I can get a good distortion with the default drivers but with some latency. The Asio4All drivers are a real problem in Windows 7, so no success so far.

Have you recorded anything in Reaper? I have a lot about it. Even people from the Ultimate-Guitar forum recommend it.

Check this video about the Line 6 POD Studio GX. It comes with Ableton Live, which is one of the best DAWs.

The GX is available from Bajaao for around 6k. I think I till buy it next month.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Have you recorded anything in Reaper? I have a lot about it. Even people from the Ultimate-Guitar forum recommend it.
The GX is available from Bajaao for around 6k. I think I till buy it next month.

Yeah, I tried recording on Reaper just for fun sometime back on Windows XP. It was easy to use / record for the basics + had tons of features I had no idea about. With all the free Amp Vst plugins it was real good. If I remember, it records in .wav format.

any tutorial available for Da Tuner?

Zangetsu said:
any tutorial available for Da Tuner?

On the DaTuner's Play Store page there is a video about how to use it.

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*soundcloud.com/desmond-david...ortably-numb-1

The metal riff sounds cool. I never got into playing metal. But now I'm looking at some Youtube lessons.
Take a try at the song "Metallingus" by Alter Bridge. I been playing it a bit, It should be easy for you.

couple of questions on acoustic guitar.
Q1. Which oil/cleaner u use for fretboard cleaning/polishing?
Q2. How much slack do I have to leave while changing strings?
Q3. How much thick (mm) pick u use?

Zangetsu said:
couple of questions on acoustic guitar.
Q1. Which oil/cleaner u use for fretboard cleaning/polishing?
Q2. How much slack do I have to leave while changing strings?
Q3. How much thick (mm) pick u use?

1. None
2. Define slack. If you mean how loose, there us no such thing since the tension will be the same when you do a standard tuning. Depends upon the string though.
3. I used to use Planetwaves JS signature Thin but those break frequenty, so I moved up to JS Medium. Don't remember the thickness exactly.

^slack means...how much loose the string u keep or the distance between stretched string from fretboard..coz we cut the excess string in the end

I've read that some oil guitarist use to keep the fretboard shining & healthy..which generally develops cracks if not maintained properly :mrgreen:

also

Q: if a guitarists play a tune/melody ask what is this riff or lick?how to find out any clue?

Q: which are the good tutorials available on mastering fingerpicking (I'm very bad in it )?

Zangetsu said:
^slack means...how much loose the string u keep or the distance between stretched string from fretboard..coz we cut the excess string in the end

I've read that some oil guitarist use to keep the fretboard shining & healthy..which generally develops cracks if not maintained properly

also

Q: if a guitarists play a tune/melody ask what is this riff or lick?how to find out any clue?

Q: which are the good tutorials available on mastering fingerpicking (I'm very bad in it )?

It doesn't matter. I just extend the string as much as is required and tighten the tuners.

1. Identify the root note that he is playing and judging by the intervals he played you can identify the scale.

2. Learn the intro to the song "My Name Is Jonas" by Weezer using fingerpicking, you will learn on your own. That's how I learned.

Refer my video :

IMO for acoustic guitar the pick shouldnt be too heavy so anything around .5mm will be good for strumming/picking,it also has to match your preference.So buy 4-5 light to medium picks and see what suits you,best.I use planet waves black ice 1.10mm heavy picks and rarely pw 1.0 med/heavy.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It doesn't matter. I just extend the string as much as is required and tighten the tuners.

but u can't extend as much string coz that will develop more threads in tuners and generally we keep 2min & 3max threads in tuner

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
1. Identify the root note that he is playing and judging by the intervals he played you can identify the scale.

Ok..so any tune I hear in a song is generally based on a scale, right? which means scales are universal rule in making any kind of musical sound.

Zangetsu said:
but u can't extend as much string coz that will develop more threads in tuners and generally we keep 2min & 3max threads in tuner

Yes, you can. I don't start wrapping it from one end, I pass it as much as required beyond the hole in the tuner and then I tighten it, letting the rest of the string hang out.

Zangetsu said:
Ok..so any tune I hear in a song is generally based on a scale, right? which means scales are universal rule in making any kind of musical sound.

Key is a more appropriate word. Key comprises of the scale and chord family.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
...Key is a more appropriate word. Key comprises of the scale and chord family....

And to round that off, a single song/tune might have different keys and/or meters [4/4, 3/4, 6/4...15/8!!].

I have been playing the keyboard for around 5 years now, and need a good keyboard within 40k....

I mostly play trance, piano-style, rabindra-sangeet, and western classicals.. and I'm going to buy this from Kolkata

I've shortlisted a few, and want your opinions on them

1. Yamaha PSR-S550B Arranger Workstation
2. Yamaha NP-V60 Piaggero
3. Roland E-09
4. Yamaha PSR-I455

If you have experience using these keyboards, help me out here...... Suggestions are welcome

Keyboards are not my area of expertise. But, I do like anything that has Yamaha written over it.

Q: if the tuning is changed to say Drop D then will the chord shape also changes like Am,C,G etc?

Why would it? The rest of the strings are still in the same tuning.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Why would it? The rest of the strings are still in the same tuning.

i dnt know about it..thats y a doubt
coz if EADGBE is changed to DADGAD then what will be the position of open G chord?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Keyboards are not my area of expertise. But, I do like anything that has Yamaha written over it.

So do you know anyone playing keyboards in this forum?

And no, the chord shape doesn't change, since it is just like a transpose... Dropping the scale by 1 or two tones...Chords will remain same in a different base scale.. as far as I know...

The sound of the chord changes based on the scale

Check out this page, I think you'll understand a little better than what I said Transpose

Zangetsu said:
i dnt know about it..thats y a doubt
coz if EADGBE is changed to DADGAD then what will be the position of open G chord?

What sort of tuning is that? Dropped D is DADGBE i.e. a standard tuning with the low E string detuned one whole step and the rest of the strings remain the same. This tuning is mainly good for playing power chords (5th Chords) on the top three strings.

If you are speaking of DGCFAD, this is D standard i.e. the entire E standard tuning dropped a whole step. in this case, the open G major pattern will not be a G major chord, but it will be F major. Therefore, if you want to play a G major chord in this tuning, you will have to play a barre chord with the barre on the 5th fret. Similarly, Am open pattern will become Gm and you will have to play Am with a barre on the 7th fret.

Therefore, in this manner, the chords will be :

Code:

d|-0----3----5----7----2
A|-1----3----5----7----3
F|-2----0----6----7----4
C|-2----0----7----9----4
G|-0----2----7----9----2
D|-x----3----5----7----X
   Gm   F    G    Am   Am

And so forth.

PS: If you know the notes comprising the chords, you can make them up irrespective of the tunings.

debarshi said:
So do you know anyone playing keyboards in this forum?

And no, the chord shape doesn't change, since it is just like a transpose... Dropping the scale by 1 or two tones...Chords will remain same in a different base scale.. as far as I know...

The sound of the chord changes based on the scale

Check out this page, I think you'll understand a little better than what I said Transpose

Ask thetechfreak. He posted a video of him playing Keyboard, so he can probably help you out.

^^so u see the open chord positions changed :-D

DADGAD is i once saw in youtube

Or rather, the position is the same. Only that the key has been flatted a whole step.

Hello, a fellow digit "musician here"

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A video of me playing my favorite song - Pehla nasha on Piano- by Srikant - YouTube

srkmish said:
Hello, a fellow digit "musician here" .

A video of me playing my favorite song - Pehla nasha on Piano- by Srikant - YouTube

Great.

What song is this?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Great.

What song is this?

Jo jeeta wahi sikandar movie song by Udit Narayan & Alka yagnik

I was accessing from the phone so I couldn't see the title. My bad.

@Desmond: Are you a professional guitar player? I saw ur blog regarding live concert in bangalore. Kudos!

srkmish said:
@Desmond: Are you a professional guitar player? I saw ur blog regarding live concert in bangalore. Kudos!

Nope, its just a hobby for now. I just went to see that concert.

guys need help in extending the pentatonic scale pattern..
currently I know one
starting from E (low):
1-4
1-3
1-3
1-3
1-4
1-4

now how do I extend this all over the fret?

Zangetsu said:
guys need help in extending the pentatonic scale pattern..
currently I know one
starting from E (low):
1-4
1-3
1-3
1-3
1-4
1-4

now how do I extend this all over the fret?

I don't follow. Do you mean to play it in a spreaded pattern?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I don't follow. Do you mean to play it in a spreaded pattern?

I mean i have seen two scale pattern in minor pentatonic scale (one of them i listed above) and then guitarist use the same pattern all over fret (e.g: the start from fret 2 and continue it till the end of the fret without breaking)
there some slight change in the extension but it sounds the same when played in one area of fret

Zangetsu said:
I mean i have seen two scale pattern in minor pentatonic scale (one of them i listed above) and then guitarist use the same pattern all over fret (e.g: the start from fret 2 and continue it till the end of the fret without breaking)
there some slight change in the extension but it sounds the same when played in one area of fret

Oh...you mean the horizontal pattern.

It goes like this :

Code:

e|----------------------------------------------10--12------
B|------------------------------------10--12----------------
G|-------------------------7--9--11-------------------------
D|------------------7--9------------------------------------
A|--------5--7--9-------------------------------------------
E|-5--7-----------------------------------------------------

This is A minor pentatonic.

^^thanx..so this extended pattern I'll have to remember...also is it same for Gm,Fm,Cm etc?

Zangetsu said:
^^thanx..so this extended pattern I'll have to remember...also is it same for Gm,Fm,Cm etc?

Just change the root.

guys need tab reading guide/help book share links

what is this (3) in tabs?

Ghost note.

That is usually carried over from the previous note that you played.

Edit : You don't have to take it seriously. You can skip it or you can play it as per you see fit.

something i did here: *soundcloud.com/djgenius3/02-djgenius-akon-right-na-na

The Slide UP & Hammer On sounds same.So, we can use any of the two (interchangeable)?

Zangetsu said:
The Slide UP & Hammer On sounds same.So, we can use any of the two (interchangeable)?

No. A hammer on goes up the scale while a pull off goes down. Hammer ons and pull offs are used to save energy while playing fast. So, instead of picking every note you can hammer on or pull off notes on the same string.

It wouldn't make sense to use them interchangeably.

Edit : And no, they do not sound the same. Listen carefully.

Also review your technique. It could be sounding the same because of your technique.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
No. A hammer on goes up the scale while a pull off goes down. Hammer ons and pull offs are used to save energy while playing fast. So, instead of picking every note you can hammer on or pull off notes on the same string.

It wouldn't make sense to use them interchangeably.

I am asking for hammer-on (H) & slide-up (\) (not pull-off)

Zangetsu said:
I am asking for hammer-on (H) & slide-up (\) (not pull-off)

Sorry, i was on phone and did not read it well enough.

They do sound similar but they are not the same. However, there are no rules when you should favour one over the other. But there are factors when it is necessary to use the one over the other. If the next note you are going to play is too far away for your finger to reach, you should use a slide otherwise you can use a simple hammer on. But this is just a general example. Other factors could be the pattern of the scale. If you are playing any scale in a caged fashion, using hammer ons make sense since all the notes are easily reachable. However, if you are using the horizontal pattern or a 3-notes-per-string pattern, which could extend all over the neck, it is impossible to reach the next notes which could be very far apart. In such a case, it is more appropriate to use a slide.

Then again, there are no rules and you can just use which ever suits your artistic style.

Similarly, you can use bends as an alternative to hammer ons or slides.

PS: Note that Hammer ons, slides and bends have different attacks and you could use discretion while using them.

My new upload, one of my all time fav songs

Abhi Mujhme Kahin - YouTube

My new video.

Sun Raha Hai na Tu - YouTube

guys can u suggest a good electric guitar company?
i want a learner guitar.
no im not going to buy an accoustic
the cheappest yamaha here is 10k but i beleve that is too high for a learner.
Yamaha Pacifica012 Black Electric Guitar | GuitarStreet

Gollum said:
guys can u suggest a good electric guitar company?
i want a learner guitar.
no im not going to buy an accoustic
the cheappest yamaha here is 10k but i beleve that is too high for a learner.
Yamaha Pacifica012 Black Electric Guitar | GuitarStreet

yes yamaha pacificas are vfm..where did you find that site,is it reliable?
For acoustic check for local shops,the cheapest yamaha acoustic should be around 6-7 k.If you are in Bangalore you can check them at Furtados or @ brigade road there are couple of shops.
Also check out the indian brand 'GB&A',They are much cheaper and not bad.
But your best bet would be to opt for a second hand guitar.look for Ibanez gio/grgs,squier strats,ltds,epiphone les pauls,jackon has some entry level too and dont expect much.If you want 'near studio quality' equipment look no further than Ibanez RGs,they will last longer.
...
Music taste also matters.If you are in to bolywoood music/regional/Po(o)p then acoustic is suited.For Rock/Metal

hmmm..

Nanducob said:
yes yamaha pacificas are vfm..where did you find that site,is it reliable?
For acoustic check for local shops,the cheapest yamaha acoustic should be around 6-7 k.If you are in Bangalore you can check them at Furtados or @ brigade road there are couple of shops.
Also check out the indian brand 'GB&A',They are much cheaper and not bad.
But your best bet would be to opt for a second hand guitar.look for Ibanez gio/grgs,squier strats,ltds,epiphone les pauls,jackon has some entry level too and dont expect much.If you want 'near studio quality' equipment look no further than Ibanez RGs,they will last longer.
...
Music taste also matters.If you are in to bolywoood music/regional/Po(o)p then acoustic is suited.For Rock/Metal hmmm..

Yamaha music store is 15minutes walk from my house in Indiranagar So I will go there.
Online the pacific costs 10k but I also saw a brand called Ahston, which is fairly new Australian company. Their electrics are cheaper, 7-8k
epiphone les paul is what I desire but it costs around 12k so kind of a no no for me atm. I'm looking for something cheaper than the yamaha but options are starting to look grim.
My friends have told me that electrics are easier to learn and light on the fingers.

Gollum said:
Yamaha music store is 15minutes walk from my house in Indiranagar So I will go there.
Online the pacific costs 10k but I also saw a brand called Ahston, which is fairly new Australian company. Their electrics are cheaper, 7-8k
epiphone les paul is what I desire but it costs around 12k so kind of a no no for me atm. I'm looking for something cheaper than the yamaha but options are starting to look grim.
My friends have told me that electrics are easier to learn and light on the fingers.

People say that electric is easier only because the strings are little slack in electric,For me both acoustic and electric have their own difficulties.
Also,I told this before

better instruments=easier to play,easier to learn.
..
So if you are going to take guitar seriously,save some up,no hurry.
Also if you are buying electric you need to invest on an amplifier too(min 4-6 k) decent 10k above.

I always suggest people to learn acoustic before going for electric so that you can learn the concepts before taking a step further. In acoustic guitar, you don't need to learn advanced techniques such as muting which is very necessary while playing electric guitar. Though the muting is mostly if you are using overdrive but then again, what is the point of using an electric guitar if you don't use overdrive. Your fingers will get f***ed either way, consider yourself warned.

I think that Pacifica is more than enough for you to learn though I think its tone is not very good. It would be better if you can get a Squier Bullet Strat, it has better tone. If you can up your budget by around 3k, it is better to get an Ibanez GRG170DX or a Squier Affinity Fat Strat.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I always suggest people to learn acoustic before going for electric so that you can learn the concepts before taking a step further. In acoustic guitar, you don't need to learn advanced techniques such as muting which is very necessary while playing electric guitar. Though the muting is mostly if you are using overdrive but then again, what is the point of using an electric guitar if you don't use overdrive. Your fingers will get f***ed either way, consider yourself warned.

I think that Pacifica is more than enough for you to learn though I think its tone is not very good. It would be better if you can get a Squier Bullet Strat, it has better tone. If you can up your budget by around 3k, it is better to get an Ibanez GRG170DX or a Squier Affinity Fat Strat.

now musiciansfriend have option to ship guitars(used) to India,good move,hope they bring new ones too,later.
Check it out.
Guitars | Musician

I am worried about the Customs, that's why I have not ordered anything from Musician's Friend yet.

Bought my first Guitar. Yamaha Pacifica 13k with bag and so on.
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looks awesome!! congrats

@Gollum:the last picture is not ur guitar.it has a whammy bar.

Nanducob said:
@Gollum:the last picture is not ur guitar.it has a whammy bar.

That's a tremolo not a whammy bar, and yes his guitar has it too

I have the same guitar as well... Though older and much less used now, just collects dust...

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Raaabo said:
That's a tremolo not a whammy bar, and yes his guitar has it too

I have the same guitar as well... Though older and much less used now, just collects dust...

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ok.its tremelo..but 2nd and 3rd pic has no trem

Nanducob said:
ok.its tremelo..but 2nd and 3rd pic has no trem

i have it removed. i may actually start learning as late as next year january. chances of getting rocksmith from failkart seem to be getting slimmer. i hope i can get my 5k back

my new position at the office may get me really busy too.

Raaabo said:
That's a tremolo not a whammy bar, and yes his guitar has it too

I have the same guitar as well... Though older and much less used now, just collects dust...

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Hi Raabo,are you planning to sell the guitar?

Mount Eerie - Moon Sequel - YouTube

Can someone cover this ?

So It finally arrived
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no not the guitar but Rocksmith 2014 PS3 - 5k INR. The most expensive game that I have bought so far.
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The game disc is in the PS3
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Real tone cable
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Its also made in china
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Cable can be broken like the xbox controller cable
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From USB to Guitar in one cable
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Box for game and cable
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Box alongside my yamaha
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Amazon.in - Buy 15 Din Me Guitar Sikhiye Book Online at Low Price in India | 15 Din Me Guitar Sikhiye Reviews & Ratings

that coverXDDDDDDDDDd

Nanducob said:
Amazon.in - Buy 15 Din Me Guitar Sikhiye Book Online at Low Price in India | 15 Din Me Guitar Sikhiye Reviews & Ratings

that coverXDDDDDDDDDd

must be a cheap artist. Still that book is not good for sure.

Hi Gollum,how does rocksmith work?is it like guitar hero but with real tabs?
does it have introductory lessons for beginners?
What songs are there?

Hi Gollum,how does rocksmith work?is it like guitar hero but with real tabs?
does it have introductory lessons for beginners?
What songs are there?

Nanducob said:
Hi Gollum,how does rocksmith work?is it like guitar hero but with real tabs?
does it have introductory lessons for beginners?
What songs are there?

Hi Gollum,how does rocksmith work?is it like guitar hero but with real tabs?
does it have introductory lessons for beginners?
What songs are there?

a small list of songs are there in my photos.
Its the baap of guitar hero. but the concept is similar [Ultra high extreme difficulty level lol]

As for you question about introductory lessons, Yes. Its is made for those who have never even touched a guitar before. I certainly have but never played or learnt.
it teaches you how to
hold a guitar
hold a pick
attach a strap
frets
strings
finger placement
beginner techniques
lead
chords
bass
strumming
shifting
and many more techniques in the form of video lessons, playable practice lessons, practice guitacade mini games, riff repeater in Learn a song mode
The game also offers you a development path as to what you wanna learn, Lead, rhythm or Bass
For more details read the FAQ - LINK

Check out Paul Gilbert's Rig

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@ Gollum, where did you buy the cable from? Also, is the game available somewhere for PC?

cable comes with the game.
flipkart

Gollum said:
cable comes with the game.
flipkart

PC version is out of stock. Don't know when they will restock.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
PC version is out of stock. Don't know when they will restock.

try bootstrapp
or call Game4u and see if they can get more stock. They are the one who import the game.

My new video . I am a huge Rafi Fan. This is my fav song of his. Koi jab raah nai paye from the movie 'Dosti'. The movie is beyond brilliant as well.

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=c56DcEQoptE

Gollum said:
try bootstrapp
or call Game4u and see if they can get more stock. They are the one who import the game.

Called up Game4u, they said, no chances of getting the PC version of the game, not even like, you could wait, and it maybe available.
OOS in Flipkart, Infibeam, Bootstrapp.

Only hope is this

Play-ASIA

srkmish said:
My new video . I am a huge Rafi Fan. This is my fav song of his. Koi jab raah nai paye from the movie 'Dosti'. The movie is beyond brilliant as well.

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=c56DcEQoptE

Gonna check it out

debarshi said:
Called up Game4u, they said, no chances of getting the PC version of the game, not even like, you could wait, and it maybe available.
OOS in Flipkart, Infibeam, Bootstrapp.

Only hope is this

Play-ASIA

Gonna check it out

get it from play asia or just get the cable. you can buy the game from steam.

My new video. This is a song from my fav movie - DDLJ

Ho Gaya Hai Tujhko To Pyaar - YouTube

After thinking a lot, I have concluded that Rocksmith is probably not worth the investment. Since I am more familiar with learning from tabs, I think I would be more comfortable doing so.

Bought a new Harmonica

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Woah...you play harmonica? Time to cover Fermented Offal Discharge by Necrophagist.

wow Nandu..can u play "Sorry seems to be the hardest word..." the harmonica tune in it?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Woah...you play harmonica? Time to cover Fermented Offal Discharge by Necrophagist.

Really..does it have harmonica in it?
Just bought it,trying to play

Zangetsu said:
wow Nandu..can u play "Sorry seems to be the hardest word..." the harmonica tune in it?

Wish I could play it

I'm a total noob at harmonica.BTW which artist's song is it?

Nanducob said:
Really..does it have harmonica in it?
Just bought it,trying to play

There are videos of clarinet and keyboard covers, you should try to cover it on Harmonica.

Bought a Stagg acoustic guitar. Doesn't sound as good as classic vibe 50 but no other options for a temporary stay.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
There are videos of clarinet and keyboard covers, you should try to cover it on Harmonica.

sure,will do once i understand it fully

Faun said:
Bought a Stagg acoustic guitar. Doesn't sound as good as classic vibe 50 but no other options for a temporary stay.

congrats.need pics

^^havent got time to take one. Looks like this:

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Started with learning power cords.

Faun said:
^^havent got time to take one. Looks like this:

Started with learning power cords.

where did you buy and how uch?

Nanducob said:
where did you buy and how uch?

120 NZD from mightyape website. I just miss my electric guitar. Was so much easier to play.

Faun said:
Bought a Stagg acoustic guitar. Doesn't sound as good as classic vibe 50 but no other options for a temporary stay.

Congos... How much?

Faun said:
^^havent got time to take one. Looks like this:

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Started with learning power cords.

Dude, you have an acoustic guitar and you are learning power chords? What is the use? Better start with Major/Minor chords and finger practice.

^^thats what I am doing. Finger practice. It's just a tutorial from Fenders.

Tell me how to get better at muscle memory ? Anything you found that can help ?

Yes same here... Need help in building muscle memory... Placing the fingers properly on the strings while shifting from one chord to other

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Dude, you have an acoustic guitar and you are learning power chords? What is the use? Better start with Major/Minor chords and finger practice.

+100

Beginner shud start with Open chords and power chords in between while learning.

Faun said:
^^thats what I am doing. Finger practice. It's just a tutorial from Fenders.

Tell me how to get better at muscle memory ? Anything you found that can help ?

abhidev said:
Yes same here... Need help in building muscle memory... Placing the fingers properly on the strings while shifting from one chord to other

no shortcuts.it takes time and practice.just try...try.... try :thumbs:

Faun said:
120 NZD from mightyape website. I just miss my electric guitar. Was so much easier to play.

dont you have the electric one with you?

Definitely no shortcuts... but I was looking for any technique that will help in building muscle memory efficiently

abhidev said:
Definitely no shortcuts... but I was looking for any technique that will help in building muscle memory efficiently

best place is youtube

Nanducob said:
dont you have the electric one with you?

Couldn't get with it in flight cabin. Had to leave it at home. Bought acoustic until I return home. Better to learn something till then

Faun said:
^^thats what I am doing. Finger practice. It's just a tutorial from Fenders.

Tell me how to get better at muscle memory ? Anything you found that can help ?

Muscle memory comes with time. I had posted a trick that I used to do earlier in this thread...

First hold a chord, strum, ensure that all your strings are fretted properly and none of them sound dull while stumming, then spread out your fingers, replace your fingers in the same chord position, rinse and repeat.

I know that this would get boring after sometime, therefore, in order to motivate yourself, look up chords for a song and practice those chords with the above exercise till you get reasonable good with it.

One easy song you can try is Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here.

abhidev said:
Definitely no shortcuts... but I was looking for any technique that will help in building muscle memory efficiently

slowing down might help the muscle memmory/transitioning from one chord to another,like practice in low bpms(with metronome/backing track)
increase bpm as you progress

btw how long have you been playing?

Faun said:
Tell me how to get better at muscle memory ? Anything you found that can help ?

abhidev said:
Yes same here... Need help in building muscle memory... Placing the fingers properly on the strings while shifting from one chord to other

refer this
Beginner Guitar Questions - Switching Chords Quickly

Nanducob said:
slowing down might help the muscle memmory/transitioning from one chord to another,like practice in low bpms(with metronome/backing track)
increase bpm as you progress
btw how long have you been playing?

Not long enough... I'm just a beginner... Had a huge gap between

abhidev said:
Not long enough... I'm just a beginner... Had a huge gap between

2-3 months and it will feel easy

Yes... Need to practice everyday

Faun said:
^^thats what I am doing. Finger practice. It's just a tutorial from Fenders.

Tell me how to get better at muscle memory ? Anything you found that can help ?

rocksmith 2014

Guys
I have seen some Guitarist use a device which playbacks the guitar melody just played by them...whats that?

It's called a looper. Most multi effect pedals have it. It allows you to record a short piece of music and allows you to overdub. A good example is the Digitech RP255 with it's 20 second looper.

@nandu
Where do you learn harmonica ?

Which hohner harmonica is good to start ?

Faun said:
@nandu
Where do you learn harmonica ?

Which hohner harmonica is good to start ?

How many instruments you planning to learn at once?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
How many instruments you planning to learn at once?

two

Faun said:
two

I don't think that's a good !dea

Faun said:
@nandu
Where do you learn harmonica ?

Which hohner harmonica is good to start ?

I got a one month free trial worth 16$ from bluesharmonica when i bought the harmonica.(trying to milk it lol)
Blues Harmonica Lessons | Blues Harmonica

As for the harmonica,Special 20 seems the best for a beginner since bending notes with it are super easy,has great response and the reeds are made up of plastic which will last more.
See the ratings here:Which Harmonica to Buy? The Best and Worst Harmonicas for Beginners »

What else do guitar teachers teach other than 'how to play guitar'(physically)?

Nanducob said:
What else do guitar teachers teach other than 'how to play guitar'(physically)?

Music theory perhaps.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Music theory perhaps.

umm and reading sheet music...
I was going to enroll to classes near my home,but alas they dont teach guitar..
one question:can you tune your guitar by ear/recognise a single note played by listening to it?
cos i cant

Nanducob said:
one question:can you tune your guitar by ear/recognise a single note played by listening to it?
cos i cant

yeah..that's what most of us call 'Ear Training' to tune a guitar & recognize chords sounds

Nanducob said:
umm and reading sheet music...
I was going to enroll to classes near my home,but alas they dont teach guitar..
one question:can you tune your guitar by ear/recognise a single note played by listening to it?
cos i cant

Well, I can't either

But I can identify resonance. Therefore, if I can get the tuning right on any one string with a tuner, I can tune the rest by ear.

The main concept you need to know is beats. This is not the music theory "beats" but acoustics beats. When two sounds of similar (but not same) frequency is played together, you can hear the the resulting sound pulsates (called waxing and waning). The faster the pulsating, the more out of tune the strings are. Therefore, while tuning, you must fret the note you want on a string that is already tuned, play this and the string you want to tune together and compare the beats. Then you gradually adjust the string tension to reduce the beats until they are non-existent (resonance). This means that the string is now tuned. You can repeat these steps for the rest of the strings.

Edit : The same procedure can be used if you don't have a tuner. You can play a sound of say, the Low E string (E2, appx 82Hz) on your cellphone as a MP3 file or on your keyboard and you can use the same technique above to tune the strings.

Zangetsu said:
yeah..that's what most of us call 'Ear Training' to tune a guitar & recognize chords sounds

I can recognise chords,no problem,but single notes

Nanducob said:
I can recognise chords,no problem,but single notes

I just realized that I can play lead better than chords lol

Nanducob said:
I got a one month free trial worth 16$ from bluesharmonica when i bought the harmonica.(trying to milk it lol)
Blues Harmonica Lessons | Blues Harmonica

As for the harmonica,Special 20 seems the best for a beginner since bending notes with it are super easy,has great response and the reeds are made up of plastic which will last more.
See the ratings here:Which Harmonica to Buy? The Best and Worst Harmonicas for Beginners »

Got the special 20 key in C. Found it pretty easy compared to the earlier suzuki one in key G.

Best portable instrument to indulge into

Faun said:
Got the special 20 key in C. Found it pretty easy compared to the earlier suzuki one in key G.

Best portable instrument to indulge into

Congrats.where did you buy it?did you get free lessons?

G

Nanducob said:
umm and reading sheet music...
I was going to enroll to classes near my home,but alas they dont teach guitar..
one question:can you tune your guitar by ear/recognise a single note played by listening to it?
cos i cant

I use this site to tune the guitar (or at-least one string).
play the open string and let it rung, then the vibration of the guitar & tuner syncs (not sure if its the right word)

Online Guitar Tuner

Zangetsu said:
Guys
I have seen some Guitarist use a device which playbacks the guitar melody just played by them...whats that?

A pretty good example of using the looper

I am trying to cover Kraftwerk - Neon Lights by ear on the Guitar. Expect me to post it in a few days.

My humble attempt to cover the great Arijit singh's song - Mai dhoondne ko zamane me

@srmish - very good.
You've got a very good voice.
But at many times I felt that you suppress your voice.

Ps: song was also nice, never heard.

thanks sujay. the parts with the suppressed voice are actually when i got out of breath. i am trying to increase my lung capacity by swimming :d

srkmish said:
thanks sujay. the parts with the suppressed voice are actually when i got out of breath. i am trying to increase my lung capacity by swimming :d

My experience says that practicing with harmonium gives you good breath. A keyboard was never meant to sing together with.

dashing.sujay said:
My experience says that practicing with harmonium gives you good breath. A keyboard was never meant to sing together with.

I thought I would never use Like button. But this needed some Likes

Done it finally after many "takes". Transcribed it by ear. In the key of A#.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/kraftwerk-neon-lights-demo-2

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Done it finally after many "takes". Transcribed it by ear. In the key of A#.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/kraftwerk-neon-lights-demo-2

is it a video, I cannot open the link. Youtube?

No, its Soundcloud. What problem you facing? Are you trying to access from Phone?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
No, its Soundcloud. What problem you facing? Are you trying to access from Phone?

My isp blocks it.
so what is it? a video?

No, it's audio. Why does your ISP block Soundcloud?

Company isp - some sites are blocked. dont know why.
you messed up at three parts but it was good overall.
looks like an easy tune

G

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Done it finally after many "takes". Transcribed it by ear. In the key of A#.

Sounds nice, Well Done.
At first I thought it was one of the songs from "Maine Pyaar kiya".

These days learning to play "Crystallize" by Lindsey Stirling & "Dream On" by Aerosmith. Crystallize is easier than it looks but Dream On is giving me a difficult time.

Dream On is actually easier from what I recollect. Used to play in college, don't remember very well now.

Bought a Yamaha PSR S750 a week ago. Damages 85k.

*www.long-mcquade.com/files/18022/lg_3578335D05C1404DA02EBC04C6F73C99_12073.jpg
Had learned to play a Casio from dad as a kid, but couldn't pursue back then.
I'm overwhelmed with the huge voice set and the amazing sound quality. Learning to play from youtube and online lessons.

Congrats lucky star

Lucky_star said:
Bought a Yamaha PSR S750 a week ago. Damages 85k.

*www.long-mcquade.com/files/18022/lg_3578335D05C1404DA02EBC04C6F73C99_12073.jpg
Had learned to play a Casio from dad as a kid, but couldn't pursue back then.
I'm overwhelmed with the huge voice set and the amazing sound quality. Learning to play from youtube and online lessons.

Wait, you bought that to learn to play?

^^ @Gollum. :-o

I had plans to buy a Casio CTK model back some five years ago when I had just got my job. But it didn't happen then. Had visited Yamaha Music Square in Bangalore once and the keyboards there blew me away. Initially decided to buy a PSR I425, then made up my mind for PSR S550B.. S710.. S650 and finally S750. The hardest part was convincing Mom that I was not crazy to spent this much on a "silly keyboard" when I could have bought a decent bike with it. Thought of it as a one time investment.

I can play by ear any indian songs with little practice. Chord Progressions, both-handed playing, reading sheet music are things I need to learn..

Lucky_star said:
^^ @Gollum.
I had plans to buy a Casio CTK model back some five years ago when I had just got my job. But it didn't happen then. Had visited Yamaha Music Square in Bangalore once and the keyboards there blew me away. Initially decided to buy a PSR I425, then made up my mind for PSR S550B.. S710.. S650 and finally S750. The hardest part was convincing Mom that I was not crazy to spent this much on a "silly keyboard" when I could have bought a decent bike with it. Thought of it as a one time investment.

I can play by ear any indian songs with little practice. Chord Progressions, both-handed playing, reading sheet music are things I need to learn..

well I'm glad that you have it now.
I also bought a yamaha guitar for 13k with no prior knowledge of guitars but I'm glad I bought it cause now i can play and enjoy music with it.

Lucky_star said:
^^ @Gollum.
I had plans to buy a Casio CTK model back some five years ago when I had just got my job. But it didn't happen then. Had visited Yamaha Music Square in Bangalore once and the keyboards there blew me away. Initially decided to buy a PSR I425, then made up my mind for PSR S550B.. S710.. S650 and finally S750. The hardest part was convincing Mom that I was not crazy to spent this much on a "silly keyboard" when I could have bought a decent bike with it. Thought of it as a one time investment.

I can play by ear any indian songs with little practice. Chord Progressions, both-handed playing, reading sheet music are things I need to learn..

Glad to see another pianist here. I started learning with Yamaha psr 223 in college. Even though it was dirt cheap at 6.5k, its grand piano sound was excellent. Currently im using Yamaha 323 which doesn't have the fineness of the piano sound of 223, but it has various features that make it worth it ( Midi in/out, pressure sensitive keys, multi track recording) . I also purely learned by watching others play on internet and finally i was able to play my favorite hindi song ever - Pehla nasha.

nice playing srkmish.cam front view was better

@Nanducob, thanks.

srkmish, nice rendition.. you got a lot of videos there.
@Gollum, I had tried my hands on a gibson guitar of my friend once. Slit my finger and that was the end of it. Guitar is too difficult compared fo keyboard.
I'm practising hard

nice one sri :lol:

Anyone in Mumbai got Rocksmith?

Great srkmish..!! Nice

well played @skirmish...one of my favorite songs

Thank u all. abhidev, krishnandu, human bot and luckystar

srkmish said:

nice one skirmish

Thanks Azad

Raaabo said:
Anyone in Mumbai got Rocksmith?

I have it but I am in Pune. If you are planning on buying, it is back in stock at Flipkart.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I have it but I am in Pune. If you are planning on buying, it is back in stock at Flipkart.

Did you skip the intro lessons @ rocksmith or are you learning them in order?
Cos u might have found it easier

I think the Lessons are bugged. They don't start immediately and I have to reinsert the cable to start them. Also, it lags while playing the lesson riffs and I have a hard time playing them correctly. However, there is no lag while learning songs. I got a 25% mastery on my first attempt of The Trooper. Still, it is a weird way of learning guitar.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I think the Lessons are bugged. They don't start immediately and I have to reinsert the cable to start them. Also, it lags while playing the lesson riffs and I have a hard time playing them correctly. However, there is no lag while learning songs. I got a 25% mastery on my first attempt of The Trooper. Still, it is a weird way of learning guitar.

what are your pc specs? you can try to lower the display settings.
have you updated the game yet?
lessons are important for learning what each shape of the note means.

Gollum said:
what are your pc specs? you can try to lower the display settings.
have you updated the game yet?
lessons are important for learning what each shape of the note means.

I stopped giving a damn about the lessons, I already know most of it. I just play songs using the riff repeater and sometimes I play guirarcade.

I also found that I can use the RealTone cable with amp modelers such as POD Farm 2. However I am unable to record using it since ASIO4all only supports one input and output at a time.

Nanducob said:

F me

dies with shame
Kids learn so fast.
Gotta practice more!

A good testimony of Rob Halfords vocal range.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
A good testimony of Rob Halfords vocal range.

Whoops...wrong thread.

Rejoice. This site will identify the chords in any song. Just paste the youtube/soundcloud link of the song.

Tune into Chords - Chordify

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Rejoice. This site will identify the chords in any song. Just paste the youtube/soundcloud link of the song.

Tune into Chords - Chordify

Awesome!

Also,
I broke my first string today while tuning. Well they were getting pretty old now.
Can you give me a good suggestion for strings and brands. I like to do a lot of bending an vibrato on the guitar with E standard tuning.

PS: I have never replaced the strings on a guitar before, do you think I should just take my guitar to a music shop to get it done there?

Strings don't break until you abuse them. Could be because you over tightened the strings. Always loosen the strings before you tune them. Also, stop relying on electronic tuners.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Strings don't break until you abuse them. Could be because you over tightened the strings. Always loosen the strings before you tune them. Also, stop relying on electronic tuners.

Yeah, I over tightened the string.

An online tab editor for guitarists : Tab and Play - Online Guitar

I use this at work to play some tunes.

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I wrote this tab for the theme music of tetris by ear. Guitarists try this out and tell me what you think :

Code:

-------------------------------------------------------------4--------------------------
-4--------------------4----------------4-------------------5----7-5-4--4---4----------------------
----3-4-6--4-3------4----6-4-3--3-4-6-----4-----------6--6---------------6----6-4-3--3-4-6-----
---------------6--6--------------------------6--6---------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---4-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6-----4-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------6--6-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Haven't tried the hammer ons and pull offs yet. Will attempt with those later.

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If you keyboardists want the notes, here they are :

D#
A# B C#
B A# F#
F# B D#
C# B A#
A# B C#
D#
B
F# F#

C#
C# E G#
F# E D#
D# B D#
C# B A#
A# B C#
D#
B
F# F#

A very short video of Gollum

My performance in Infosys Musical Event.

Gollum said:
A very short video of Gollum

Were you playing this with Rocksmith? I cannot hear your guitar track. Could you post a solo track of this?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Were you playing this with Rocksmith? I cannot hear your guitar track. Could you post a solo track of this?

cold company from minus the bear. lead.
yes i played on rocksmith.
i dont have an amp or a processor

Download Pod Farm and ASIO4All. You can use the Rocksmith cable and set up your effects chain on the PC using Pod Farm and play. However, you cannot record using audio recording software because ASIO4All only detects one input/output pair at a time.

Let me know if you want detailed steps.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Download Pod Farm and ASIO4All. You can use the Rocksmith cable and set up your effects chain on the PC using Pod Farm and play. However, you cannot record using audio recording software because ASIO4All only detects one input/output pair at a time.

Let me know if you want detailed steps.

i know how to use asio. i made a tutorial for it to use that with guitar rig.
but i dont use it. i only use rockamith and my guitr is more like a toy than an instrument.

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btw, since youhave rs. try cold company

I have it Rocksmith, but my guitar intonation is off. Rocksmith detects the wrong notes because of that. Will try after I get my guitar fixed.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I have it Rocksmith, but my guitar intonation is off. Rocksmith detects the wrong notes because of that. Will try after I get my guitar fixed.

see, i dont know what you are talking about.
not able to tune?

No. Intonation is a different thing. It usually happens when you put new strings.

I don't know the proper technicalities of this, but I will explain it the way I see it.

Intonation means accuracy of pitch. The ability of your instrument to reproduce the correct pitch corresponding to the note that you play. That means, that when you play the 0th and 12th frets on the high E string, the notes would always be an E. That also means that the harmonics are correct as well (that is how I check the intonation of the guitar).

When the intonation goes off, that means that the guitar is not producing notes accurately. That is, when I play an open E on the high E string on a properly tuned guitar, the note will be an E, but if I play any consequent notes, they might either be slightly sharper of flat. That means, the higher up the fretboard you play, the more inaccurate your notes become and anything you play will sound like crap, regardless of how well you tuned your guitar. That means, if the note at 0 is an E, the note at 12 could be slightly sharper or flatter than E or in the worst case, F or D#.

This problem can usually be fixed by modifying the string length via the bridge saddles. If the notes are sharper, the string length is increased and if the notes are flatter, the string length is increased. But certain factors require you to go to the repairman.

Gollum you look like virat kohli

nice tapping tho

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Download Pod Farm and ASIO4All. You can use the Rocksmith cable and set up your effects chain on the PC using Pod Farm and play. However, you cannot record using audio recording software because ASIO4All only detects one input/output pair at a time.

Let me know if you want detailed steps.

Actually you can record with ASIO4ALL. I use Reaper for recording and Guitar Rig VST for the effects.

Nanducob said:
Gollum you look like virat kohli nice tapping tho

Dude, I look like rahul dravid

That's what I have been told

Personally I'd like to look like myself

Is the neck of the guitar bent? What guitar is it Desmond David?

Raaabo said:
Is the neck of the guitar bent? What guitar is it Desmond David?

He has ESP LTD m-50

Raaabo said:
Is the neck of the guitar bent? What guitar is it Desmond David?

Yes, its an LTD M-50.

The problem is that I put in 10-46 gauge ProSteel d'Addarios because I felt the old 9-42 ones were a little too slack. But I think the guitar does not support these without some adjustment. I have adjusted the bridge saddles as back as I can, but the intonation is still off. I will have to check with the repair guy to see if he can fix it somehow, or I will have to go back to the 9-42 gauge strings.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes, its an LTD M-50.

The problem is that I put in 10-46 gauge ProSteel d'Addarios because I felt the old 9-42 ones were a little too slack. But I think the guitar does not support these without some adjustment. I have adjusted the bridge saddles as back as I can, but the intonation is still off. I will have to check with the repair guy to see if he can fix it somehow, or I will have to go back to the 9-42 gauge strings.

I used hybrid slinky on my pacifica
no issues, Check your fret board, see if its bent or what about the pickup height? I may be talking gibberish here.

Nothing's wrong with the neck and the pickup height.

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Just intonation needs fixing.

Guys can you suggest me good acoustic guiter under 10K . Thanks
And what you think about Yamaha F310?

Tenida said:
Guys can you suggest me good acoustic guiter under 10K . Thanks
And what you think about Yamaha F310?

What price are you getting it at?

Nanducob said:
What price are you getting it at?

Around 7.5K

Nylon string or steel string?

Nanducob said:
What price are you getting it at?

I played it once,its vfm,if possible try to bring the price down a little.There is also a high end version of this selling at 9k.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Nylon string or steel string?

If you're asking about the guitar he mentioned,its a steel string.F series is Yamaha low end economy lineup.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Nylon string or steel string?

Steel string.

Then that Yamaha is a good deal IMHO.

It was retailing for 6.5k before 2 years

Nanducob said:
I played it once,its vfm,if possible try to bring the price down a little.There is also a high end version of this selling at 9k.

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If you're asking about the guitar he mentioned,its a steel string.F series is Yamaha low end economy lineup.

Economy and still 9k?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Economy and still 9k?

FOR 9K I would rather buy an electric

Gollum said:
FOR 9K I would rather buy an electric

Actually buying acoustic for learning purpose.

BTW. guys see this video

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Economy and still 9k?

Umm..yes..and a entry level ibanez acoustic costs as much...Yamaha has only 2 acoustic models under 10k i guess...

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Gollum said:
FOR 9K I would rather buy an electric

Lol if you ve played a high end acoustic guitar you wouldnt have said that.I have played acoustic guitars up to range of 25k(Ovation).They have better craftsmanship, sound and they use better woods for making.After i played and find out how the low end guitars sounds like,i listened to my senior playing the Ovation.And it sounded like the guitar played in the soundtrack of a movie.But its sad that we had to pay more here in India for the stuff than others.

Gollum said:
FOR 9K I would rather buy an electric

I'd rather not.

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Tenida said:
Actually buying acoustic for learning purpose.

BTW. guys see this video

9k too steep for learning purposes. 5-6k should be more than enough for learning.

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One of my friends has a nylon string Yamaha. I must say that nylon string guitars have the best attack.

Ive heard that nylon guitars dont have truss rods.

Nanducob said:
Ive heard that nylon guitars dont have truss rods.

And mainly used for classical music. Steel string guiter are for country, pop, rock etc etc

Mm yes.

Nanducob said:
Ive heard that nylon guitars dont have truss rods.

No, most of them do have. Because the neck could get bent due to the change in seasons.

Can we connect acoustic guiter to speaker?

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^^ Not as such like in an electric or semi-acoustic guitar. You might need an external pick up like this -
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Tenida said:
Can we connect acoustic guiter to speaker?

Easiest method is to use a microphone. Otherwise, you can use a piezo pickup or an extrenal pickup like the one that Vignesh mentioned.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yes, its an LTD M-50.

The problem is that I put in 10-46 gauge ProSteel d'Addarios because I felt the old 9-42 ones were a little too slack. But I think the guitar does not support these without some adjustment. I have adjusted the bridge saddles as back as I can, but the intonation is still off. I will have to check with the repair guy to see if he can fix it somehow, or I will have to go back to the 9-42 gauge strings.

Why would gauge change the intonation? Seems like you have a different problem if the intonation is off. This isn't even a floating bridge to need adjustment of the bridge, but try adjusting the string lengths slightly using the screws on the bridge. Try it oput with the 1st string (high e) to know more clearly which way you should be adjusting, and it will help you adjust all of them. However, again I don't think a 1 guage difference in strings should cause intonation problems... make sure the neck itself isn't warping gradually.

Raaabo said:
Why would gauge change the intonation? Seems like you have a different problem if the intonation is off. This isn't even a floating bridge to need adjustment of the bridge, but try adjusting the string lengths slightly using the screws on the bridge. Try it oput with the 1st string (high e) to know more clearly which way you should be adjusting, and it will help you adjust all of them. However, again I don't think a 1 guage difference in strings should cause intonation problems... make sure the neck itself isn't warping gradually.

That's the problem, I've adjusted the bridge saddles all the way back and the intonation still hasn't been fixed. The same problem is with all the strings. I asked about this on /r/guitar and they told me that a change in string gauge does affect intonation. That is why I need to check in with the luthier. Here's my post for reference : Is there any relation between string gauge and intonation? : Guitar

However, Furtados is pretty far from my place, so I need to do it over some weekend.

I've personally spent over 12,000 hours creating a new music service startup. I'm in final beta for web and Android and still need more testers. Everyone who signs up today will get a free premium upgrade at launch. That is all. : Music

maybe you guys would like this, posting cause of the free premium upgrade :razz:

^^ thanks.
Is it a service similar to groove shark?

Just add a last.fm scrobbler and we can call it complete.

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But how does this benefit musicians in particular?

guys could you please help me with this? Thinking To Learn Guitar

adityak469 said:
guys could you please help me with this? Thinking To Learn Guitar

check your thread again

Bought Yamaha F310. Now how to tune it??

Tenida said:
Bought Yamaha F310. Now how to tune it??

zzz

For now get a tuner.

You could use the 5-5-5-4-5 frets method. But if your ear is not trained, you might end up breaking your strings.

Tenida said:
Bought Yamaha F310. Now how to tune it??

Congrats..enjoy your guitar till you get bored of not knowing what to do with it.

Tenida said:
Bought Yamaha F310. Now how to tune it??

Congrats.

Try Pitch lab android tuner from Google play.
Pics pls

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Gollum said:
Congrats..enjoy your guitar till you get bored of not knowing what to do with it.

There won't be a time like that because there are lots and lots of things to learn about guitar and music,and if you feel something is stopping you,then its frustration and laziness.

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My gear:

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Guitar: Cort KX1Q
Amp: Laney LX12

^wow nice looking guitar.how much did you pay for it?

Hey guys, to all the talented musicians here, i want to urge that please keep uploading your new musical conquests in youtube. Not only does it give us the other forum members a chance to appreciate digit musicians' talent, but also you are building a mini legacy as well - You will be able to show off this to your friends/family / grandkids when you get older

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Nanducob said:
^wow nice looking guitar.how much did you pay for it?

Bought it a couple of years back for around 20k.

bikramjitkar said:
My gear:

*i61.tinypic.com/22nbf9.png

Guitar: Cort KX1Q
Amp: Laney LX12

How are Laney amps? I am planning to buy a Laney Cub 12R.

srkmish said:
Hey guys, to all the talented musicians here, i want to urge that please keep uploading your new musical conquests in youtube. Not only does it give us the other forum members a chance to appreciate digit musicians' talent, but also you are building a mini legacy as well - You will be able to show off this to your friends/family / grandkids when you get older

For once I agree with that :lol:

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
How are Laney amps? I am planning to buy a Laney Cub 12R.

Laney amps are great! Mine is just a practice amp with no extra effects, but the cleans and distortion sound very nice. Tony Iommi has been using them for ages.

Yeah. Tony Iommi uses an Ironheart amp head.

The CUB 12R is a full tube amp and has an fx-loop. Its not a good amp for heavy distortion but the cleans are very good.

Here's a new one by me :

nice electric guitars on ebaydotin.anybody buying ?

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What the hell is that?

^^kids guitar..For ebay its electric guitar lmao

^^You do need to place batteries in it. So technically it's an electronic guitar :lol:

This reminds of Mithun Da's movie I am a disco dancer where he was supposed to get electrocuted by electric guitar.

Guys can you tell me where I can get Harmonica tabs for this song ? It's just so rife with emotions. Which key harmonica is he playing on ?

Harmonica has tabs?

Faun said:
Guys can you tell me where I can get Harmonica tabs for this song ? It's just so rife with emotions. Which key harmonica is he playing on ?

i think this is the best movie i have ever watched. its a surreal, dreamy experience and the music has been blessed with divine grace.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Harmonica has tabs?

My browser has tabs. Harmonica must have tabs too :lol:

srkmish said:
i think this is the best movie i have ever watched. its a surreal, dreamy experience and the music has been blessed with divine grace.

It's a cinematography and music driven movie with good performance from leads.

srkmish said:
i think this is the best movie i have ever watched. its a surreal, dreamy experience and the music has been blessed with divine grace.

which movie is it?

^^ The Classic

So I recently purchased Key in G Hohner Special 20.

Why is it so hard to blow compared to Key in C Hohner Special 20 ?

I bought Rocksmith 2014, waiting for it to arrive.

I got it too. Just need to get back to home in next week.

Tell me, when you connect your guitar, does it autoselect the right effect to apply to the guitar for the song? Like if I want to play Satch Boogie, do I have to put the right effects into my effects processor, or does RockSmith add effects so that I don't need an effects processor?

Yes. It will choose the effects, cabinet and amp according to the song. There is a session mode where you can choose your own as well.

All you have to do is to connect the cable to the USB.

Another trick I found out is that the RealTone cable can be used with POD Farm and you can use those effects too. Haven't been able to record with it though.

Raaabo said:
Tell me, when you connect your guitar, does it autoselect the right effect to apply to the guitar for the song? Like if I want to play Satch Boogie, do I have to put the right effects into my effects processor, or does RockSmith add effects so that I don't need an effects processor?

PC version sucks, its full of bugs. Tones drop to bare bone clean tone in th emiddle of the songs and spoil the whole experience.
I raised a ticket with ubisoft but the *******s can't even fix it.
I'm sticking to the PS3 for now as its got no bugs at all.

Gollum said:
PC version sucks, its full of bugs. Tones drop to bare bone clean tone in th emiddle of the songs and spoil the whole experience.
I raised a ticket with ubisoft but the *******s can't even fix it.
I'm sticking to the PS3 for now as its got no bugs at all.

I haven't faced anything like that at all. I have some lag but that's fixed by the settings Ubisoft provided.

Getting better at open chord shifts

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I haven't faced anything like that at all. I have some lag but that's fixed by the settings Ubisoft provided.

i am asuming that you havent played it enough given the issue with your guitar.
i will be donating my cable and game to my cousin.
i will keep using my ps3 for it.

Good song to begin practicing with Harmonica

What's with the V1?

Pour some sugar on me - captured from Playstation eye toy

Me singing one of my fav Rafi songs.

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Gollum said:
Pour some sugar on me - captured from Playstation eye toy

Good playing. I'd suggest holding the guitar flat against your body instead of tilting it as it would be while you're standing.

bikramjitkar said:
Good playing. I'd suggest holding the guitar flat against your body instead of tilting it as it would be while you're standing.

Thanks,
I'm holding the guitar this way because I am sitting with my legs crossed. The guitar automatically shifts.
I'll be buying a strap this month end, Will be practicing while standing.

srkmish said:
Me singing one of my fav Rafi songs.

Video does not exist.

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Gollum said:
Pour some sugar on me - captured from Playstation eye toy

Woah. You have learned well. Try memorizing the chords and playing without looking.

Ive fixed it now

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srkmish said:
Ive fixed it now

Very nice singing. And such an amazing song, thanks for reminding me of it.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Video does not exist.

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Woah. You have learned well. Try memorizing the chords and playing without looking.

I am practicing your 1234 technique. Its pretty difficult right now. 4321 is a cake!

It looks weird if you look back and forth between the screen and the guitar.

The 1-2-3-4 exercise is a very core exercise. Even the pro guitarists do that for warm up before playing any gig.

Can anyone please recommend an electric guitar + amp for a beginner ?

axes2t2 said:
Can anyone please recommend an electric guitar + amp for a beginner ?

Kitty

axes2t2 said:
Can anyone please recommend an electric guitar + amp for a beginner ?

Budget?

I was surprised to find a dean guitar for so cheap. Is it legit? Not planning to buy,just curious. Buy Dean Evo XM Electric Guitar at Rs9,500.00, Lowest Price in India, Authorized Dealer, Distributor | Free Shipping | Bajaao.com

It seems to be an entry level guitar but any1 knows how it will sound with a cheap amp ? Thanx

setanjan123 said:
I was surprised to find a dean guitar for so cheap. Is it legit? Not planning to buy,just curious. Buy Dean Evo XM Electric Guitar at Rs9,500.00, Lowest Price in India, Authorized Dealer, Distributor | Free Shipping | Bajaao.com

It seems to be an entry level guitar but any1 knows how it will sound with a cheap amp ? Thanx

I am not sure. But I wouldn't believe it until I play it.

Yeah thats what i thought. But its a dean so maybe there is a glimmer of hope. Just maybe

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This seems to be the same axe. *www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/dean/evo_xm/ . The review is a bit old but i think its a good guitar. Bajao.com is offering it for cheap i think. Street price could be 12-13k maybe. If only i could get it for 9.5k or so in a year and a half or so when i am somewhat good at the acoustic guitar i am trying to learn,then with a marshall mg10cd it seems to be a good combo. Lets see

You can buy it but first try it out in some shop.

I once inquired about fender classic vibe 50 white edition listed on their website. Bajaoo increased price of that the very next day citing reason that it is in more demand. Got mine from elsewhere then.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Budget?

Budget around 20k.

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Allu Azad said:
Kitty

My recommendation:

Guitar : Greg Bennett Avion AV1 @ appx 12k
Amp : Roland Micro Cube @ appx 7-7.5k

Rocksmith 2014 sure helps with learning guitar in a fun way.

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Just started to learn "Cult of Personality" riff & it seems difficult.

Gen.Libeb said:
Just started to learn "Cult of Personality" riff & it seems difficult.

That solo is incredibly hard. The intro is relatively simple.

i am struggling with the solo of smoke on the water.
fornsome odd reason my ps3 picks up notes very well but pc does not

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
That solo is incredibly hard. The intro is relatively simple.

Yeah the intro not that difficult to just play , but I am having problems with timing when I play along specially at the one minute mark (before neon light...) where its kind of an extended intro

As for the solo, I'm not even going to try it.

Finally got the Hang of this song. Its a bit difficult and has almost everything that you have to learn on a guitar.

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Such gain, much metal!

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How do you barre chords ?

bikramjitkar said:
Such gain, much metal!

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Boss Metalzone? You bought?

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Faun said:
How do you barre chords ?

Use your index finger to barre and the remaining three fingers to hold the chord.

Theory:

The chord E is 022100 and F is 133211.

As you can see, the pattern for the chord is the same as E only that it is one fret higher. Since you are moving the 221 pattern of the E chord a fret higher, you have to compensate the open notes by holding your index finger across all the notes on the 1st fret and making the E chord like pattern using your remaining three fingers.

Similarly, you can hold any chord in a barre fashion.

F major chord :

*www.guitar-beginner.com/images/beginner-guitar-f-bar-chord.jpg

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Boss Metalzone? You bought?

Yeah, brother got one from the US on sale for around 50 USD. I've dialled in a nice 80's thrash sound with it.

Cool man. I was thinking of buying a new amp first then I will buy the pedals. Will buy a wah pedal first, looking a second hand Dunlop CryBaby.

Damn, Rocksmith really reminds you of how rusty you are. Don't touch a guitar in 2 years, start up Rocksmith and try something even basic as Pour Some Sugar on Me and be humiliated

Raaabo said:
Damn, Rocksmith really reminds you of how rusty you are. Don't touch a guitar in 2 years, start up Rocksmith and try something even basic as Pour Some Sugar on Me and be humiliated

lol
the initial riff is a bit difficult but i've learnt it now.
im at 92% accuracy. what about you?

I started with rhythm, because I don't know how to play any of these songs that come bundled. It's not hard, really, it's just hard getting used to the symbols in Rocksmith. I find it easier to play without looking at the screen. Finished the master thing with 2 crosses, now have to figure out where I went wrong.

For lead, play Satch Boogie. If you can master that you'll master anything later.

Raaabo said:
For lead, play Satch Boogie. If you can master that you'll master anything later.

haha....that is a seriously ...sort of ....bit of difficult. I'm a beginner so need to take baby steps and learn the easy stuff first along with trying new things.
For some reason my pacifica does not pick-up bends and hammer on's and hammer-offs too well.
I think I a les paul type of guitar will be better for this as the neck has a high gain humbucker

It doesn't? Mines doing it pretty ok so far.

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Gollum said:
haha....that is a seriously ...sort of ....bit of difficult. I'm a beginner so need to take baby steps and learn the easy stuff first along with trying new things.
For some reason my pacifica does not pick-up bends and hammer on's and hammer-offs too well.
I think I a les paul type of guitar will be better for this as the neck has a high gain humbucker

It's hammer on's and pull off's.

Are you sure it's the guitar and not your technique? Try playing unplugged- the notes you're hammering on or pulling off should sound as loud as when you pick them.

Gollum said:
lol
the initial riff is a bit difficult but i've learnt it now.
im at 92% accuracy. what about you?

I switched to lead now. Why does that Learn a song percentage rise so slowly? I'm at 76% on the song, but 94% accuracy in Master mode Score attack. What does it want from me to go higher??? Stupid game!

Rocksmith sucks a little for not being a little flexible. It wants you to play something EXACTLY as it demands. B5 then C#5 it wants you to strum both chords/notes, whereas I just slide for quick changes... then it gives me a "Miss". Hammer-ons and pull-offs it recognises for me, but slides...

Raaabo said:
I switched to lead now. Why does that Learn a song percentage rise so slowly? I'm at 76% on the song, but 94% accuracy in Master mode Score attack. What does it want from me to go higher??? Stupid game!

Rocksmith sucks a little for not being a little flexible. It wants you to play something EXACTLY as it demands. B5 then C#5 it wants you to strum both chords/notes, whereas I just slide for quick changes... then it gives me a "Miss". Hammer-ons and pull-offs it recognises for me, but slides...

Use riff repeater to set difficulty before resuming the song. It should default to the same when you resume the song.

Raaabo said:
I switched to lead now. Why does that Learn a song percentage rise so slowly? I'm at 76% on the song, but 94% accuracy in Master mode Score attack. What does it want from me to go higher??? Stupid game!

Rocksmith sucks a little for not being a little flexible. It wants you to play something EXACTLY as it demands. B5 then C#5 it wants you to strum both chords/notes, whereas I just slide for quick changes... then it gives me a "Miss". Hammer-ons and pull-offs it recognises for me, but slides...

you got 2 croses in master mode. fix that section of the song and you will go higher.

I'm bored. I'm playing the song as perfectly as I want to. I have no reason to want to play it exactly as the game wants me to.

Besides it lags. I'm playing perfectly to the music and it says Late or Miss every now and then. Buggy.

Raaabo said:
I'm bored. I'm playing the song as perfectly as I want to. I have no reason to want to play it exactly as the game wants me to.

Besides it lags. I'm playing perfectly to the music and it says Late or Miss every now and then. Buggy.

There's a PDF file among the the game's installed files. It contains directions to reduce lag. You should try it out.

Also, if you are bored, consider downloading POD Farm. The Rocksmith cable works perfectly with it. The effect chains sound pretty natural.

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You might need the ASIO4All driver to reduce lag with it.

I think my guitar intonation might be a little off, so really high notes (12th to 19th frets) are being picked up as false sometimes. Will try with a different guitar at office to re-check.

Can someone explain to me why when I got 94% accuracy it didn't increase my overall score, but when I get 92 accuracy it adds some mastery score and then raised my score from like 76% to 97.4%. Is there any sense to this at all, or is it just random rubbish?

*i.imgur.com/3r0wHDS.jpg

Holy shh,, I've only played this song like 20 times and you played it 56 times. That's some determination.

[MENTION=1]Raaabo[/MENTION]

That accuracy is dependent on your level cap. If I play on easy level cap I can get to 100% accuracy until the level cap increases.

I got the Ibanez 170dx and Peavey 158 amp

Will post pics some other time.

Currently doing some RHCP songs.

Yup, I was determined to see wtf was the reason to not be progressing in percentage wise, though 10 of those would be others in office also trying their hand.

I think it was always at max complexity after 70+ percent, because the notes are the same for the last 20 times I played it. It just refused to increase accuracy. Though I did lower video settings and stuff to get that last score, so maybe it was reduced lag or something.

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nice one...

axes2t2 said:
I got the Ibanez 170dx and Peavey 158 amp

Will post pics some other time.

Currently doing some RHCP songs.

That is a very nice guitar, totally want it.

lol
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Oi! guys, anybody doing any serious music composing/mixing here?

Not yet, but if someone can give me drum tracks, I could make something out of it.

Ultimate Guitar Tabs And Tools app free on the Amazon app store till tomorrow. Grab it while you can.

Amazon.com: Ultimate Guitar Tabs and Tools: Appstore for Android

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Ultimate Guitar Tabs And Tools app free on the Amazon app store till tomorrow. Grab it while you can.

Amazon.com: Ultimate Guitar Tabs and Tools: Appstore for Android

this is another version where we cant upgrade

At least you don't have to pay for it.

Can Electric Guitar sound like Acoustic?

Zangetsu said:
Can Electric Guitar sound like Acoustic?

The sound varies ,but you can emulate acoustic sounds on electric via effects,pedals etc.Some electric guitars have a built-in peizo pickup for acoustic sounds .Eg: Wes Borland's(Limpbizkit) guitar'Search it in youtube and find out how close it sounds to the acoustic

What is a good gauge for strings if i want to play in drop c (ACOUSTIC GUITAR),never cared about guages but brand until now ,but now i am playing low tuning songs mainly.
These are the guages.

Acoustic Guitar String Set Gauges

“extra light": .010 .014 .023 .030 .039 .047
"custom light": .011 .015 .023 .032 .042 .052
"light": .012 .016 .025 .032 .042 .054
"medium": .013 .017 .026 .035 .045 .056
"heavy": .014 .018 .027 .039 .049 .059

tagging [MENTION=5007]DeSmOnD dAvId[/MENTION] coz,as i know, he is in the business for some time.Others are also welcome

Why would you want to play Dropped C in acoustic? I am not sure if you get strings of that gauge for acoustic but light-medium strings should do the trick. Anything less and the strings will become too slack, you won't be able to hear anything.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Why would you want to play Dropped C in acoustic? I am not sure if you get strings of that gauge for acoustic but light-medium strings should do the trick. Anything less and the strings will become too slack, you won't be able to hear anything.

There are some nice songs in dropped tunings like slipknot - vermilion pt 2 (BF#BEG#C#

) ,Pearl Jam -'Oceans (DADF#AD) etc also some Micheal Hedges

I was thinking.of either .054 or .056 ,I thing .054 will do the trick without warping neck.

Dropped D and B can be played on light strings as well.

I cannot guarantee how the neck will fare though.

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Dropped D and B can be played on light strings as well.

I cannot guarantee how the neck will fare though.

Got my chopper
*i.imgur.com/XLEVcH9.jpg

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Dropped D and B can be played on light strings as well.

I cannot guarantee how the neck will fare though.

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Dropped D and B can be played on light strings as well.

I cannot guarantee how the neck will fare though.

thanks will go for .054s

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Got my chopper

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Nanducob said:
thanks will go for .054s

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Chopper is a strat sized humbucker

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Lmao.

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Nanducob said:
thanks will go for .054s

Also note that Light gauge by acoustic standards can still get pretty thick. Watch out for your fingers getting busted.

^^Thanks and Happy New Year to all TDF Musicians

Oh god, oh good I am catching up with the rhythms just by imagining the songs in my head and playing the tabs off the web. Wow...it's a new mielstone.

Can you translate what you hear in your head onto the guitar? That would be a real milestone.

But, its easier to make a rhythm first and try to write lyrics around them.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Can you translate what you hear in your head onto the guitar? That would be a real milestone.

But, its easier to make a rhythm first and try to write lyrics around them.

haha...right. That will be a major milestone. Hope to be able to do that by the end of 2015 or before.

But I am quite sure that I am getting better at music and guitar.

You could also try to hum a tune and try to find the chords around it. You could add lyrics later.

^^That's still a long way for me.

Barre chords. Any advice ?

Faun said:
^^That's still a long way for me.

Barre chords. Any advice ?

"Finger strength"

Faun said:
^^That's still a long way for me.

Barre chords. Any advice ?

First learn to hold strings with the index finger without the rest of the fingers. At least try to make sure all the strings are getting fretted, if not at least the top 2 and the bottom 2. Adjust your finger till you find a position that you are comfortable with and are sure that all strings are getting fretted. Strum slowly to find which strings sound damp and adjust your finger till you find what works for you. After this proceed to hold the rest of the fingers.

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If any of you guys want to buy pedals, there is this new Indian company called IRET Guitar Enhancements that are making great quality pedals at a reasonable price. Check them out.

Home

Thanks, Desmond.
[MENTION=128807]Nanducob[/MENTION]
asking for the way. I cannot just dip my fingers in plaster of paris for strength

Found this video explaining quite well how to strum chords

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
If any of you guys want to buy pedals, there is this new Indian company called IRET Guitar Enhancements that are making great quality pedals at a reasonable price. Check them out.

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Space Oddiity - cool reference, bro

Ibanez GRG 170

*i.imgur.com/tn34Wg0.jpg?1

*i.imgur.com/XkUSoTZ.jpg?1

^^Which other guitar do you own ?

I dismantled my Classic Vibe today. Got to know more about today. All shiny now

axes2t2 said:
Ibanez GRG 170

*i.imgur.com/tn34Wg0.jpg?1

*i.imgur.com/XkUSoTZ.jpg?1

That is an awesome guitar. I used to own that one before my current guitar. It stood a lot of punishment and could play everything I threw at it.

Here's me playing on the GRG170DX:

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Space Oddiity - cool reference, bro

Yeah. David Bowie.

[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION]

The other one is a Crusader acoustic.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
That is an awesome guitar. I used to own that one before my current guitar. It stood a lot of punishment and could play everything I threw at it.

My amp is a Peavey

[MENTION=156672]Desmond[/MENTION]

Which one do you own now ?

I assume your ibanez was the one which got broken by some twats ?

Yeah. That same one got broken. Now I own an ESP LTD M50

Can't stand the stupidity of guys in music shops.I asked for .054 guitar strings for low tuning and the guy says that super light strings (.050) are best for low tuning :facepalm:

I said that he is WRONG.he got no fact to backup.
There was another dumb girl who came to repair violin kept telling me that heavy /medium strings are hard to play;whatever,all I asked was medium/heavy strings for low tuning,seemed like she wanted to show off that she is the master.
Then she asked me if the strings are 440 :lol:

I asked "440 what?" Frequency?
Silence.

Bunch of "know all" douchebags.

^^heavy/medium are hard to play indeed, relatively.

Faun said:
^^heavy/medium are hard to play indeed, relatively.

Yes I knew it.its simple .thicker the string hard to play. less slack for low tuning,anyways thats better than asking if strings are 440.
What I meant was if I don't know about something I would be modest about it ,what is the relation between 440 and low tuning ,do I need to care about 440 or guage for low tuning

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I also have very bad experience from 3 music shops in my place.will post at night

From that I realized that I need good shops address in Pune.

Desmond, you might be more aware about that ?

Already know Furtados but they kind of price higher.

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Nanducob said:
Can't stand the stupidity of guys in music shops.I asked for .054 guitar strings for low tuning and the guy says that super light strings (.050) are best for low tuning I said that he is WRONG.he got no fact to backup.
There was another dumb girl who came to repair violin kept telling me that heavy /medium strings are hard to play;whatever,all I asked was medium/heavy strings for low tuning,seemed like she wanted to show off that she is the master.
Then she asked me if the strings are 440
I asked "440 what?" Frequency?
Silence.

Bunch of "know all" douchebags.

This is why I buy stuff online whenever I can. No d-bags to deal with. If I have to go to shop I ask for the exact thing I want and walk out if they don't have it.

bikramjitkar said:
This is why I buy stuff online whenever I can. No d-bags to deal with. If I have to go to shop I ask for the exact thing I want and walk out if they don't have it.

yup ,once ,when i was in school ,i went to a music shop.I asked if i can have a look at one nice guitar.
the guy said
"do you have money ,do you intend to buy it ?''

Faun said:
From that I realized that I need good shops address in Pune.

Desmond, you might be more aware about that ?

Already know Furtados but they kind of price higher.

Furtados is expensive as hell. There is a shop on MG road, I don't remember the name. Let me check and see.

Yeah. I posted this on Reddit sometime back: Looks for guitar gear in Pune. : pune

You can also get gear from Bajaao.com if you want.

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Nanducob said:
yup ,once ,when i was in school ,i went to a music shop.I asked if i can have a look at one nice guitar.
the guy said
"do you have money ,do you intend to buy it ?''

Wow. That is a whole new level of douchebaggery.

Nanducob said:
yup ,once ,when i was in school ,i went to a music shop.I asked if i can have a look at one nice guitar.
the guy said
"do you have money ,do you intend to buy it ?''

Indian salesman generally are deprived of the common sense to display courtesy.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Furtados is expensive as hell. There is a shop on MG road, I don't remember the name. Let me check and see.

Yeah. I posted this on Reddit sometime back: Looks for guitar gear in Pune. : pune

You can also get gear from Bajaao.com if you want.

Thanks for the link. Will check out Divine Music.

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Learning fingerpicking. Incredibly useful.

Faun said:
Learning fingerpicking. Incredibly useful.

You doing exercises or learning some song?

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Here is my attempt at finger picking I did sometime ago.

^^Dude, that's fantastic ! Do more stuff like that.

Learning songs. Don't get motivation while practicing techniques.

Particularly, this song.
Guitar Song 1 Tab by Metro 2033 | Songsterr Tabs with Rhythm

So, I can play this now

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third song, another great one

Faun said:
So, I can play this now

not believing until we see it

,its been a year or so , lets see your progress

Nanducob said:
not believing until we see it ,its been a year or so , lets see your progress

Soon, recording on cell. Will do a proper recording. But the progress so far been good.

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This one with barre chord and power chords later. Will be helpful getting the shifts good for barre chord.

I find the minigame called castle chordead in rocksmith 2014 to be best for practice. it gives you a set of chords in random order in a fun way making you learn and memorize the chords as you play.

Does not teach chord progressions.

It's not that good to be honest. The chords are too randomized. There is no particular strum pattern. Also, you are concentrating so much on what's going on on the screen to observe what you are actually holding.

^^Agree with Desmond.

Rocksmith is good for practice but it teaches less about progressions and rhythm. And the strumming pattern is not at all there as far as I know. I find it now better to learn by playing a song.

And I still say that Rocksmith helped me a lot.

Yeah. Chords are not just about the pattern of the fingers, but also how they sound because there are more than one way of holding any particular chord but they all sound the same each time. No point learning chords of you can't guess which chord it is just by listening.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yeah. Chords are not just about the pattern of the fingers, but also how they sound because there are more than one way of holding any particular chord but they all sound the same each time. No point learning chords of you can't guess which chord it is just by listening.

True that.
I am talking about being able to shift to any chord in any random song.
not about learning music but muscle memory.

What you need is ear training. There's this app on android called Perfect Ear 2. It will train you in intervals and chords identification.

Haha

Now, this is the 4th song

justin knows the accurate way. And it's a great exercise for almost barre and long shifts.

Faun said:
Haha

Now, this is the 4th song

justin knows the accurate way. And it's a great exercise for almost barre and long shifts.

I hope that's not Bieber.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I hope that's not Bieber.

He is a pretty good tutor from what I heard. But i never learned from him. Though I think I should learn the techniques from him now.

This song esp is pretty close to the original.

Oh. Hadn't seen link. Lel.

You should try John Petrucci's Rock Discipline video too. He teaches from basic exercises to advanced techniques. You can find it on torrents.

Justin s tutorial are nice and easy to understandfor someone s starting out

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I hope that's not Bieber.

That man is THE best guitar teacher on YouTube especially for beginners. He teaches everything from pop to metal and has been praised by Mark Knopfler, Steve Vai and Brian May.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Oh. Hadn't seen link. Lel.

You should try John Petrucci's Rock Discipline video too. He teaches from basic exercises to advanced techniques. You can find it on torrents.

Will check out but I am still in the middle of beginner and intermediate level.

John Petrucci from Dream Theatre, I have listened to that guy playing. Another maestro is Jimi Hendrix. And Mr. Joe Satriani too.

Woo...page 100.

Faun said:
Will check out but I am still in the middle of beginner and intermediate level.

John Petrucci from Dream Theatre, I have listened to that guy playing. Another maestro is Jimi Hendrix. And Mr. Joe Satriani too.

The same video:

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
The same video:

Damn those stretching of fingers on fretboard. I guess I will stick with learning chords for now. May be after some time.

One good thing is that I am trying alternate picking now.

This song if you are practicing barre chords.

Tutorial

Db Bbm Gb Ab

Done with pick string by string play and moderately slow shifts

Now, time for fast shifting barre chords.

Original song

Banana Pancakes, two tutorials to get the best out of it. Cool new trick and great exercise for barre chords.

Original song

Now this one is easy, good for basic chord shifting

Original Song

I know that song. I learned that when I was in college. Can probably still play but need to practice those chords again.

This song has one of the most easiest intros ever.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I know that song. I learned that when I was in college. Can probably still play but need to practice those chords again.

This song has one of the most easiest intros ever.

Yeah, but the chord changes are kind of odd for me. Not the usual chords too.

Probably you should play it some time.

Faun said:
Yeah, but the chord changes are kind of odd for me. Not the usual chords too.

Probably you should play it some time.

I will try it today and see.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I will try it today and see.

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Here's what I managed: *soundcloud.com/desmond-david/lifehouse-you-and-me-intro

What did you use to record ?

Yeah, what do you use for recording ? I use my cellphone.

That was pretty nice. I will upload my recordings soon.

Here is Fix you by coldplay.
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/fix-you-by-coldplay

I think I will keep a log on soundcloud from now just for my progress.

Yeah. I use my cellphone. Don't have any professional recording equipment.

Nice recording that one. Your guitar has nice tone. What guitar is that?

Your chords sound somewhat out of tune though. What chords were you playing?

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axes2t2 said:
What did you use to record ?

Cellphone

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Nice recording that one. Your guitar has nice tone. What guitar is that?

Your chords sound somewhat out of tune though. What chords were you playing?

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Cellphone

C Em Am7 G4(6)

Repeats on and on

It's a classic vibe 50 strat and Roland Cube 40 GX amp.

Wow. That clean tone made me think that was a real acoustic guitar.

How much does the Cube 40XL cost? I am thinking of upgrading from my Micro Cube.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Wow. That clean tone made me think that was a real acoustic guitar.

How much does the Cube 40 GX cost? I am thinking of upgrading from my Micro Cube.

At that time it was 19k. Should be able to get it under 18.

The sound is pretty warm compared to other neutral amps. Almost like tube amps.

I was planning on buying a Laney Cub 12R, haven't been able to save up money till now.

^^I tested another amp, it was pretty neutral. I think it was Vox, dont remember the model.

Another recording, Banana Pancakes by Jack Johnson

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/banana-pankcakes-jack-johnson

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December by Collective soul initial tab arrangement
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/december-collective-soul-intro-tabs

Nice going @Faun...soon you will start strumming in rhythm.

axes2t2 said:
Nice going @Faun...soon you will start strumming in rhythm.

Yeah, getting things right one by one.

Godfather tune, trying fingerstyle
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/godfather-tune

Faun said:
Yeah, getting things right one by one.

Godfather tune, trying fingerstyle
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/godfather-tune

I used to play this in lead in college. Let me try it once more.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I used to play this in lead in college. Let me try it once more.

Been learning fingerstyle for sometime

How difficult do you think this tab is ? You can listen to the song on youtube.
You Were There (Ico) Guitar Tab | Game Tabs // Video Game Tablature

Faun said:
Been learning fingerstyle for sometime

How difficult do you think this tab is ? You can listen to the song on youtube.
You Were There (Ico) Guitar Tab | Game Tabs // Video Game Tablature

Does not seem too hard. Can get it with practice.

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If you are interested, try the Diablo Tristram theme on fingerstyle. That's awesome as well.

You can find the tab on UltimateGuitar.com

Guitar cover of the same:

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Does not seem too hard. Can get it with practice.

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If you are interested, try the Diablo Tristram theme on fingerstyle. That's awesome as well.

You can find the tab on UltimateGuitar.com

It's a mix of all sort of difficulty. I will probably need more practice to get it all.
Strumming is easier while chord switching but fingerstyle adds another layer of difficulty.

Here is t he guitar cover for the one I posted

After seeing all these videos, I am thinking of buying myself a nylon string guitar.

Nylon string guitars have the best attack I have ever heard.

^^Get one then

Another good track, i lack the speed and the b part is tough

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Uploaded slow part of the song, sounds melodious though
Romanza Sloooooooooooow 0.1 by psygeist - Hear the worldâ€™s sounds

Really need to maintain control and speed up both hands finger. I find it easier and faster to strum and chord shift. But I am liking fingerstyle too.

Faun said:
^^Get one then

Another good track, i lack the speed and the b part is tough

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Uploaded slow part of the song, sounds melodious though
Romanza Sloooooooooooow 0.1 by psygeist - Hear the worldâ€™s sounds

Really need to maintain control and speed up both hands finger. I find it easier and faster to strum and chord shift. But I am liking fingerstyle too.

Sounds cool. Show me tabs.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Does not seem too hard. Can get it with practice.

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If you are interested, try the Diablo Tristram theme on fingerstyle. That's awesome as well.

You can find the tab on UltimateGuitar.com

Guitar cover of the same:

This brings memories !

Here's my cover of Pink Floyd - Is There Anybody Out There. I recorded on my acoustic, so volume is a bit low. Also I played it a bit fast than the song actually is, so made some mistakes.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/pink-floyd-is-there-anybody

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Here's my cover of Pink Floyd - Is There Anybody Out There. I recorded on my acoustic, so volume is a bit low. Also I played it a bit fast than the song actually is, so made some mistakes.

*soundcloud.com/desmond-david/pink-floyd-is-there-anybody

That's nicely played.

I should pick up my speed too, and the endurance.

That song is good for practicing. At least try to play the first part.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
That song is good for practicing. At least try to play the first part.

Trying to play Sjipknot - Psychosocial. The pinch harmonics are difficult to get right.
That solo is out of my reach. Have you ever tried playing it ?

Even after playing for so long, I still don't know how pinch harmonics work. They work when I am playing subconsciously as part of a song, but if I play consciously, its never audible.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Even after playing for so long, I still don't know how pinch harmonics work. They work when I am playing subconsciously as part of a song, but if I play consciously, its never audible.

am i hearing this right?
seriously dude?
like just touch the string lightly on top of the fret that's all and release as soon as you pick.
don't push down on the string.

@Gollum is right.

@Desmond practice doing harmonics on 12th fret first.

I think you guys are mistaking Pinch Harmonics with Artificial Harmonics. Two different things.

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I know what Artificial Harmonics are. You lightly touch the strings.

In Pinch Harmonics, you play a note and touch the string immediately after with the back of your thumb of your picking hand. Much harder than you think.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I think you guys are mistaking Pinch Harmonics with Artificial Harmonics. Two different things.

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I know what Artificial Harmonics are. You lightly touch the strings.

In Pinch Harmonics, you play a note and touch the string immediately after with the back of your thumb of your picking hand. Much harder than you think.

This ?

Faun said:
This ?

Can't see youtube links in your posts. Fixed it.

Yeah. That's pretty much pinch harmonics.

Ya that 'screaming' sound...I thought it was the same as on acoustics i.e easy to get on 12th fret.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Even after playing for so long, I still don't know how pinch harmonics work. They work when I am playing subconsciously as part of a song, but if I play consciously, its never audible.

Hold the pick between your thumb and index finger in such a way that only a tiny bit of the tip of the pick is sticking out. Then, when you pick a string, lightly touch the string with the side of your thumb just as you pick it. Also, there are specific points between your pickups where the harmonics are much louder depending on the fret you're on. You need to experiment to find and remember those points as well. You can play them subconsciously because you're accidentally touching the string with your thumb while picking. With a lot of gain, they are not too difficult to produce.

Pinch Harmonics: Squealies (Guitar Lesson TE-012) How to play - YouTube

axes2t2 said:
Ya that 'screaming' sound...I thought it was the same as on acoustics i.e easy to get on 12th fret.

Yeah. It's called Squealing informally.

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bikramjitkar said:
Hold the pick between your thumb and index finger in such a way that only a tiny bit of the tip of the pick is sticking out. Then, when you pick a string, lightly touch the string with the side of your thumb just as you pick it. Also, there are specific points between your pickups where the harmonics are much louder depending on the fret you're on. You need to experiment to find and remember those points as well. You can play them subconsciously because you're accidentally touching the string with your thumb while picking. With a lot of gain, they are not too difficult to produce.

Pinch Harmonics: Squealies (Guitar Lesson TE-012) How to play - YouTube

I can do it re. Only not consciously.

When I am demonstrating it to someone, it won't work. When I play a song that has it, then it works.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yeah. It's called Squealing informally.

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I can do it re. Only not consciously.

When I am demonstrating it to someone, it won't work. When I play a song that has it, then it works.

oh ok. I guess you might be touching the string too hard when demonstrating it.

Even I think so. Sometimes I do it too lightly. It's pretty hard to get the balance right. Professional players get it right all the time.

Also, you need the correct amount of gain for it to be effective.

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Yeah, the higher the gain, the louder squealies you can get.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Even I think so. Sometimes I do it too lightly. It's pretty hard to get the balance right. Professional players get it right all the time.

Also, you need the correct amount of gain for it to be effective.

Their pedal boards are of baap level...

It's not about pedal boards. Many good players like Guthrie Govan use cheap pedals too.

The trick is in the skill.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It's not about pedal boards. Many good players like Guthrie Govan use cheap pedals too.

The trick is in the skill.

+1 billion. Pros are pros because of their skill, not gear.

...and skill comes from practice. If you watched that John Petrucci video that I posted (Rock Discipline), in that video Petrucci teaches several tough and mind numbing exercises. However, many later guitarists cite that video as a inspiration to become great.

So that's what you need to do. Hours upon hours of mind numbing exercises.

Edit: Video for reference: *www.digit.in/forum/lifestyle/12831...ver-band-edition-post2196518.html#post2196518

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Yeah, practice is the really tough part. Whenever I sit down to practice, I do it for a few minutes and then start noodling around aimlessly. Learning songs is fun, but practice needs real dedication.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Yeah. It's called Squealing informally.
I can do it re. Only not consciously.

When I am demonstrating it to someone, it won't work. When I play a song that has it, then it works.

Its the opposite for me. I can get it right when I am just playing that, but during solos I miss it. I never can never get it in the Comfortably numb solo.

I used to play pinch harmonics on Lamb Of God - Laid To Rest.

Haven't covered Psychosocial yet but I can play Duality.

Gen.Libeb said:
Its the opposite for me. I can get it right when I am just playing that, but during solos I miss it. I never can never get it in the Comfortably numb solo.

You mean start of the second solo right?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
...and skill comes from practice. If you watched that John Petrucci video that I posted (Rock Discipline), in that video Petrucci teaches several tough and mind numbing exercises. However, many later guitarists cite that video as a inspiration to become great.

So that's what you need to do. Hours upon hours of mind numbing exercises.

Edit: Video for reference: *www.digit.in/forum/lifestyle/12831...ver-band-edition-post2196518.html#post2196518

I am doing that finger stretch.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You mean start of the second solo right?

Yes. It starts off with a pinch harmonic on the 7th fret.

Evanescence - "Haunted" has an awesome solo with about 5 of those squealies. The solo is isn't that hard to play but getting those pinch harmonics right is challenging.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It's not about pedal boards. Many good players like Guthrie Govan use cheap pedals too.

The trick is in the skill.

I meant in regards of getting that particular sound/tone.Obviously practice is required.

To be honest, tone is a matter of taste or personal preference. You can use whatever works for you.

Dimebag Darrel [strike]is[/strike] was a damn good guitarist. But I personally think his tone is ****.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
To be honest, tone is a matter of taste or personal preference. You can use whatever works for you.

Dimebag Darrel [strike]is[/strike] was a damn good guitarist. But I personally think his tone is ****.

..the riff from walk is fkn sick yet simple..He tunes strings 10 cents below._,,slight trebley sound

He actually scoops mids.

He turns mids all the way down while turning the highs and lows up. The arrangement looks like a trough on the EQ.

Such an arrangement will give a somewhat sharp attack. But the problem is that the guitar is a mid range instrument and scooping the mids means that the highs that you play will get mixed with the snare drums and cymbals and the lows will get mixed with the bass guitar and the kick drums. Playing live with such a tone would suck.

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But then again, Dimebag probably knew how to work with scooped mids.

^^ still sounds metal

[MENTION=5007]DeSmOnD dAvId[/MENTION]

You and Me by Lifehouse, finally able to do that second chord progression
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/you-and-me-lifehouse

A little distorted sound. Need to keep cell away and keep volume less.

Your chords sound different. What tab are you using?

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Trying to learn the rhythm guitar parts of Tornado Of Souls by Megadeth, probably the "easiest" on Rust In Peace. I think I'm gonna need some of those drugs that Mustaine was on at that time #mindbogglingcrazyshit.

bikramjitkar said:
Trying to learn the rhythm guitar parts of Tornado Of Souls by Megadeth, probably the "easiest" on Rust In Peace. I think I'm gonna need some of those drugs that Mustaine was on at that time #mindbogglingcrazyshit.

Amazing song. Marty Friedman's solo is killer. But it's also one of the toughest solos.

If you want easier rhythm parts, try Symphony Of Destruction.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Your chords sound different. What tab are you using?

G C9 D G Em D C9
G Am C9 Em G Em D C9

It's actually not played like that. The intro tab is something like this:

1: 3X0033
2: X30033
3: 2X0033
4: X20033
5: 022033
6: X00233
7: X32033

Also actual chords used are different but I don't remember all their names.

No. 1 is G major
No. 2 is G/C (I am not sure, but it could be a variation of C itself)
No. 3 is G/F#
No. 4 is G/B
No. 5 I am not sure but could be Em7 or something.
No. 6 is Dsus4, not D major.
No. 7 is Don't know this, but some form of C.

This is how I played on that soundcloud track I shared.

Try this out and see.

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In case you are wondering, what the "/" are. These are called Slash chords.

This means that the lower parts of the chord are the same but a note is added to the bass part of the chord. In the above examples, the bottom three strings are the regular G major shape(XXX033). But the note next to the slash is added to one of the top three strings.

Therefore G/F# would become 2X0033 (or 220033 if you can hold it that way

).

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
It's actually not played like that. The intro tab is something like this:

1: 3X0033
2: X30033
3: 2X0033
4: X20033
5: 022033
6: X00233
7: X32033

Also actual chords used are different but I don't remember all their names.

No. 1 is G major
No. 2 is G/C (I am not sure, but it could be a variation of C itself)
No. 3 is G/F#
No. 4 is G/B
No. 5 I am not sure but could be Em7 or something.
No. 6 is Dsus4, not D major.
No. 7 is Don't know this, but some form of C.

This is how I played on that soundcloud track I shared.

Try this out and see.

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In case you are wondering, what the "/" are. These are called Slash chords.

This means that the lower parts of the chord are the same but a note is added to the bass part of the chord. In the above examples, the bottom three strings are the regular G major shape(XXX033). But the note next to the slash is added to one of the top three strings.

Therefore G/F# would become 2X0033 (or 220033 if you can hold it that way ).

Yeah, there are two tutorials over net. I used this one:

The one you are talking about looks like this:

Thanks for the info about Slash cords. I am thinking of hanging a printout of chords in my room. Just like school days :v:

Played again on same arrangement, this one sounds comparatively better.
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/you-and-me-lifehouse-2

Will play on your arrangement. Albeit, yours is easier. The main point learning the second one was to get the chord shift from Am to D fairly quickly. I used to fumble on that part.

For all fingerstyle stuff, this guy teaches so effectively

That last recording was relatively better. However, your guitar sounds somewhat out of tune. Are you sure you tuned it?

No. 1 chord is G major ACDC style

desmond david said:
that last recording was relatively better. However, your guitar sounds somewhat out of tune. Are you sure you tuned it?

e2, a2, d3, g3, b3, e4

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Nanducob said:
No. 1 chord is G major ACDC style

Like this ?
*www.learningtoplaytheguitar.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gv2_chord-199x300.jpg

It sounds better.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Amazing song. Marty Friedman's solo is killer. But it's also one of the toughest solos.

If you want easier rhythm parts, try Symphony Of Destruction.

Yeah, not even gonna attempt that solo. One of the top 5 of all time imo. I can already play Symphony, quite easy but the difficult part is to get it clean and precise like the original.

Faun said:
Like this ?
*www.learningtoplaytheguitar.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gv2_chord-199x300.jpg

It sounds better.

i think he mutes the A string ,angus young ,rest are same

^^ok, understood

Amazing song, and this guitar lesson.

G

Do you know any site other than ultimate-guitar for tabs ? I am looking for Vermillion part 1 tabs.
Thank You

Gen.Libeb said:
Do you know any site other than ultimate-guitar for tabs ? I am looking for Vermillion part 1 tabs.
Thank You

Better search youtube for tuts. Get more than just tabs.

Faun said:
e2, a2, d3, g3, b3, e4

You probably used a machine. Check intonation as well.

Compare the note on your E2 string with the harmonic on the 12th fret same string. If the harmonic is slightly off then you have an intonation problem. No amount of tuning would get your guitar in tune then.

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Gen.Libeb said:
Do you know any site other than ultimate-guitar for tabs ? I am looking for Vermillion part 1 tabs.
Thank You

UG is more than enough. There are tons of tabs and multiple tabs for a particular song as well.

Gen.Libeb said:
Do you know any site other than ultimate-guitar for tabs ? I am looking for Vermillion part 1 tabs.
Thank You

Guitar Tabs @ 911Tabs
it searches most of the tab sites

G

Thanks All. Usually UG has everything but I couldn't find any for Vermillion, but found a lesson on you tube so that's good.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
You probably used a machine. Check intonation as well.

Intonation looks about right to me except for minor variance in E and A string.

Your chords sound strange though. Compare to my recording and see.

Finally, found chords for one of my favorite songs
The Classic - Nuh Eh Ge Nan Na Eh Ge Nun Me To You You To Me Tab by Misc Unsigned Bands @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Your chords sound strange though. Compare to my recording and see.

Woops, posts deleted from this thread ?

Faun said:
Finally, found chords for one of my favorite songs
The Classic - Nuh Eh Ge Nan Na Eh Ge Nun Me To You You To Me Tab by Misc Unsigned Bands @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

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you watch Korean Dramas?

Gollum said:
you watch Korean Dramas?

Watched Korean movies.

Faun said:
Watched Korean movies.

I'm a big fan of Korean movies and drama.
can u suggest some new ones?

Gollum said:
I'm a big fan of Korean movies and drama.
can u suggest some new ones?

See Helpless and I Saw the Devil. We have a thread for movies, you will get more recommendation over there from other members too.

I like these melodrama movies:
The Classic
A Moment to Remember (didn't like initially but now realize that it indeed is a pretty cool movie)

Another good tutorial, barre chords but makes it easy to play

any guitar suggestion for 3k-4k for beginner ?

iittopper said:
any guitar suggestion for 3k-4k for beginner ?

In that budget you can only get acoustic.

Look up GB&A, they have good budget guitars.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
In that budget you can only get acoustic.

Look up GB&A, they have good budget guitars.

is there any specific one which you can point me at ? Also since i literally dont know anything about guitar , should i just buy it online ? or go to shop to try before buying .

It's always best to try before you buy.

If you are new to guitars, get someone with experience to go to the shop with you.

However, beware that there are a lot of duplicate brands in the shops (as well as online) which don't sound very well.

GB&A make good guitars, however, I don't know any model in particular, you will have to ask the shopkeeper.

Other (probably better) brands are Pluto and Granada (again, don't know any models in particular, ask the shopkeeper which model comes in that budget).

Try to stick to these brands so that you don't bring home any duplicate branded ones. Also, I'd recommend that you get a model with a circular sound hole because those ones sound more rich.

Can play this now

Not the Barre's but a step up from easy open chords substitution

this song brings the smilez

Noob question - How is the guy playing guitar part whereas other sound is playing normally ? I do know about backing track , but they do not contain vocals right ?

iittopper said:
Noob question - How is the guy playing guitar part whereas other sound is playing normally ? I do know about backing track , but they do not contain vocals right ?

I didn't understand your question. Can you elaborate?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I didn't understand your question. Can you elaborate?

The guy is performing the guitar part of the song . It looks like he has removed the original guitar part from the song and then used his guitar for the song .

edit - Am i making some sense now ?

edit 2 - how is this one for beginner - Electric Guitar,Givson spanish guitar, Buy Guitar online,musical instrument

Dude, if you want to buy an electric guitar, keep a budget of at least 11k. Below this all guitars have crap tone and low quality build. That Givson is a copy of a Gibson.

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As for the video, its possible that the guy made his own backing track. He could also overdub the song.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Dude, if you want to buy an electric guitar, keep a budget of at least 11k. Below this all guitars have crap tone and low quality build. That Givson is a copy of a Gibson.

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As for the video, its possible that the guy made his own backing track. He could also overdub the song.

cool thanks , its just that i got to excited seeing guitar cover . Will definitely go for acoustic .

Found Chaar Kadam tutorial. Cool new barre practice song.

Changed strings to EXL110 Nickel Wound, Regular Light, 10-46 - D'Addario. Not liking the sound so far.

I own 10-46 d'Addarios too but I have Pro-Steel. The tone has a bite but it also ruins your fingers faster.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I own 10-46 d'Addarios too but I have Pro-Steel. The tone has a bite but it also ruins your fingers faster.

They seem to settle down. Bought Dunlop 65 String Cleaner and Conditioner. For smooth glide and anti rust.

Steel will be tough on your frets too.

Started working on chord diagram website. Purely on javascript. Quick and fast.

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website up at bitbucket

Chord Grammatical

Finally ordered Pluto Hw41 from bajaoo . Went to 2-3 musical store to test it . Also tested Yamaha F310 , Fender FA 100 , granada guitar and few stagg guitar . Found the pluto best for money , comfort and also liked the tune . Yamaha F310 was selling for 8.9k which was above my budget so didn't buy that .

Finally i can start guitar lessons

iittopper said:
Finally ordered Pluto Hw41 from bajaoo . Went to 2-3 musical store to test it . Also tested Yamaha F310 , Fender FA 100 , granada guitar and few stagg guitar . Found the pluto best for money , comfort and also liked the tune . Yamaha F310 was selling for 8.9k which was above my budget so didn't buy that .

Finally i can start guitar lessons

Which one ?

Faun said:
Which one ?

guitar lesson ? Well i will start the beginner course of justin guitar . If you are asking about stagg guitar that i tried - stag SWA2RC and SW201BK .

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iittopper said:
Finally ordered Pluto Hw41 from bajaoo . Went to 2-3 musical store to test it . Also tested Yamaha F310 , Fender FA 100 , granada guitar and few stagg guitar . Found the pluto best for money , comfort and also liked the tune . Yamaha F310 was selling for 8.9k which was above my budget so didn't buy that .

Finally i can start guitar lessons

Congrats! Just follow Justin's course and you will have a good base. It may seem a bit frustrating at first but be patient and enjoy yourself. Don't neglect the basics such as posture, holding the pick and always keeping your guitar in tune. All the best!

bikramjitkar said:
Congrats! Just follow Justin's course and you will have a good base. It may seem a bit frustrating at first but be patient and enjoy yourself. Don't neglect the basics such as posture, holding the pick and always keeping your guitar in tune. All the best!

thanks man

iittopper said:
guitar lesson ? Well i will start the beginner course of justin guitar . If you are asking about stagg guitar that i tried - stag SWA2RC and SW201BK .

The one you ordered.

iittopper said:
Finally ordered Pluto Hw41 from bajaoo . Went to 2-3 musical store to test it . Also tested Yamaha F310 , Fender FA 100 , granada guitar and few stagg guitar . Found the pluto best for money , comfort and also liked the tune . Yamaha F310 was selling for 8.9k which was above my budget so didn't buy that .

Finally i can start guitar lessons

Can we has pics?

Broke my e string. It was recently replaced. I guess I went overboard while tightening the nut.

Ordered Ernie Ball strings this time.

Faun said:
The one you ordered.

pluto HW41 Acoustic guitar

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Can we has pics?

As soon as i get it from bajaoo.com .

iittopper said:
Finally ordered Pluto Hw41 from bajaoo . Went to 2-3 musical store to test it . Also tested Yamaha F310 , Fender FA 100 , granada guitar and few stagg guitar . Found the pluto best for money , comfort and also liked the tune . Yamaha F310 was selling for 8.9k which was above my budget so didn't buy that .

Finally i can start guitar lessons

Congrats...make sure to upload pics.

axes2t2 said:
Congrats...make sure to upload pics.

They cancelled the order due to out of stock . Totally disappointed .

Can anyone tell how good is Aria STG 003 ?

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iittopper said:
They cancelled the order due to out of stock . Totally disappointed .

Can anyone tell how good is Aria STG 003 ?

That sucks. You should call them up and confirm availability before ordering anything else. That Aria guitar seems to be an OK beginner's guitar. But it's an electric guitar so you will have to buy an amp too.

bikramjitkar said:
That sucks. You should call them up and confirm availability before ordering anything else. That Aria guitar seems to be an OK beginner's guitar. But it's an electric guitar so you will have to buy an amp too.

Actually they had one in stock . But the product was found to be defected on testing . Atleast thats what they claimed . Yeah Buying the aria guitar tomorrow , will get amp later .

That Aria guitar looks good. There's even a review page for it on UG: STG-003 Review | Aria | Electric Guitars | Reviews @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Have you personally played it and tested? How much are you getting it for?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
That Aria guitar looks good. There's even a review page for it on UG: STG-003 Review | Aria | Electric Guitars | Reviews @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Have you personally played it and tested? How much are you getting it for?

Going for second hand deal - 4.5k . Guitar is around 1 year old but it looks good and seller also seems genuine . Going tomorrow to play and test .

*olx.in/item/electric-guitar-6-months-old-IDUBsDW.html#d217914820

Then you will also need an amp. No sense buying an electric guitar otherwise.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Then you will also need an amp. No sense buying an electric guitar otherwise.

yeah i am planning to buy soon , just not this month . Have watched Justin Beginner videos and he says that initially you can start learning the guitar without buying an amp .

Finally got my guitar . And yeah after playing it i really need to buy an amp . can anyone suggest cheap but good amp for beginner? Budget 3k. Also should i buy the tuner or should just get the app .

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You'd probably get Stranger amps at that budget, but those are crap.

Better get a Beta-Aivin at around 5.5k.

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iittopper said:
Finally got my guitar . And yeah after playing it i really need to buy an amp . can anyone suggest cheap but good amp for beginner? Budget 3k. Also should i buy the tuner or should just get the app .

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Finally got my guitar . And yeah after playing it i really need to buy an amp . can anyone suggest cheap but good amp for beginner? Budget 3k. Also should i buy the tuner or should just get the app .

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Look for a Laney LX 12 locally. It's around 5k on Bajaao, but I got it from a local shop for around 3800, 3 years back. If you have the RockSmith game, you can use the cable to play through your PC speakers with ASIO drivers.

No need to buy a tuner if you have an Android phone. Just get Smartchord app, it's free and has everything from tuner to metronome and chord diagrams.

After 1 week playing , i learned A , D and E chord . Can switch between them easily . Can switch about 60 times in a minute from one chord to another . Also completed Stage 1 of justin beginner lesson . Finger have stopped hurting . Tried Rocksmith , didn't liked it much . Can anyone tell how is my progression going ?

thanks

iittopper said:
After 1 week playing , i learned A , D and E chord . Can switch between them easily . Can switch about 60 times in a minute from one chord to another . Also completed Stage 1 of justin beginner lesson . Finger have stopped hurting . Tried Rocksmith , didn't liked it much . Can anyone tell how is my progression going ?

thanks

Best thing to do is now try out the beginner songs. That will tell you about your progression.

Search on youtube for you favorite songs. You will find beginner lessons on that. It will keep your interest going on.

Keep expanding you chords knowledge in the meantime. Add few more chords and get good with shifting. Start with G and C.

Check these channels:
*www.youtube.com/channel/UCLw42Ka3Y-g49Dxny4DZpKQ
*www.youtube.com/channel/UCUk1-G3mF4-W2I6-xXjM12g
*www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgRMHrtQpnhKHdsGiFQRyQ
*www.youtube.com/channel/UCVHPEWwaN_bZvFyqW3t6-8w

^thankyou very much for the input

iittopper said:
^thankyou very much for the input

Pay more attention to strumming pattern too. You can play a whole good variation just by changing strumming pattern and keeping your fingers on only one chord.

Don't forget the right, the strumming one.

And if you need a quick reference for chords, check the website I developed in spare time
A chord page

Broke D string . Should i replace only this or all of them ? Which string should i get ?

Also really need to buy an amp , Learning songs is getting boring as i am not able to differentiate much between E and A chord sound . Cant find good deal on beta aivin / Laney LX 12 , how is marshall MG10 ?

always replace the whole set. that's what i do.

Gollum said:
always replace the whole set. that's what i do.

Why is that so ?

iittopper said:
Broke D string . Should i replace only this or all of them ? Which string should i get ?

Also really need to buy an amp , Learning songs is getting boring as i am not able to differentiate much between E and A chord sound . Cant find good deal on beta aivin / Laney LX 12 , how is marshall MG10 ?

Marshall MG10 is also a good practice amp. [strike] [MENTION=1]Raaabo[/MENTION] has it I think.[/strike] [MENTION=1]Raaabo[/MENTION] has a Marshall MG 15 CD.

You will need ear practice to be able to differentiate chords based only on sound. Some chords have really subtle differences and not many people are able to tell them apart by sound alone.

On the electric guitar, you could change the only string that broke but try to ensure that it is of the same set that you have currently. Since it takes time for the tuning to set in, if you change all the strings you won't be able to play for about 1 week because the tuning will keep changing as the new strings stretch. You will have to keep tuning it everyday till the tuning settles. If you only replace the broken string, then you can at least play on the other unbroken strings till the new string gets set.

Also, beware about replacing the strings with higher or lower gauge strings since that is guaranteed to spoil the intonation. Once that happens, your guitar will never be in tune, even if you use a tuning machine.

I would suggest that if this is your first time, replace all the strings but remember what gauge you are putting on so that next time you break a string, you will know which gauge set you have and replace accordingly.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Marshall MG10 is also a good practice amp. [strike] [MENTION=1]Raaabo[/MENTION] has it I think.[/strike] [MENTION=1]Raaabo[/MENTION] has a Marshall MG 15 CD.

You will need ear practice to be able to differentiate chords based only on sound. Some chords have really subtle differences and not many people are able to tell them apart by sound alone.

On the electric guitar, you could change the only string that broke but try to ensure that it is of the same set that you have currently. Since it takes time for the tuning to set in, if you change all the strings you won't be able to play for about 1 week because the tuning will keep changing as the new strings stretch. You will have to keep tuning it everyday till the tuning settles. If you only replace the broken string, then you can at least play on the other unbroken strings till the new string gets set.

Also, beware about replacing the strings with higher or lower gauge strings since that is guaranteed to spoil the intonation. Once that happens, your guitar will never be in tune, even if you use a tuning machine.

I would suggest that if this is your first time, replace all the strings but remember what gauge you are putting on so that next time you break a string, you will know which gauge set you have and replace accordingly.

thankyou . I already replaced all the string with D'addario EXL 120 . There was buzzing sound in low E string for 2 days but its gone now . Without amp its very hard to differentiate the chord sound ( atleast for me) . Buying Amp this week hopefully .

iittopper said:
thankyou . I already replaced all the string with D'addario EXL 120 . There was buzzing sound in low E string for 2 days but its gone now . Without amp its very hard to differentiate the chord sound ( atleast for me) . Buying Amp this week hopefully .

Good choice. I used to have those strings too on my first guitar. Very good for soloing.

Try to see if anyone is selling their amps second hand in your city. You could get a better amp for cheaper.

I am much better now at chords strumming and switching. In fact, I can play and sing too to some extent now.

But picking up strings individually is slow for me and error prone. How do I get better at it ? I know guitar solos are based on picking strings.

I dont know if its me but the new d'addario strings are super bright on my Epiphone lpsp2
Is it supposed to be like that?
these are 9-42 and earlier were 10-46 pre installed

Gollum said:
I dont know if its me but the new d'addario strings are super bright on my Epiphone lpsp2
Is it supposed to be like that?
these are 9-42 and earlier were 10-46 pre installed

Let it settle down. But yeah they will be relatively bright.

Faun said:
Let it settle down. But yeah they will be relatively bright.

The packaging of these was total crap
Ernie ball is wayyyy better

Gollum said:
I dont know if its me but the new d'addario strings are super bright on my Epiphone lpsp2
Is it supposed to be like that?
these are 9-42 and earlier were 10-46 pre installed

Why the hell would you replace a 10-46 with 9-42?

Also, it will take about a week for the tuning to set in. New strings sound weird anyway.

Gollum said:
The packaging of these was total crap
Ernie ball is wayyyy better

My Ernie balls were rusted. Packaging doesn't prevent rust well.

Daddario were sealed well.

So I am at stage 4 at justin guitar tutorial . He taught 7th Dominant chord - c7 , B7 and G7 . Are they important to master and are used in songs frequently ?

iittopper said:
So I am at stage 4 at justin guitar tutorial . He taught 7th Dominant chord - c7 , B7 and G7 . Are they important to master and are used in songs frequently ?

Not the barre variants ? You can skip these. Get to the barre chords once you are comfortable with standard open chords.

If you are comfortable with open chords shifting then try a song with the chords you have learned.

So how many guitar players are there on TDF now,5?

:hyper:

Faun said:
Not the barre variants ? You can skip these. Get to the barre chords once you are comfortable with standard open chords.

If you are comfortable with open chords shifting then try a song with the chords you have learned.

yup I am done with all the basic 8 chords . Can switch between them easily . Have already learned 3-5 songs ( three little bird , chasing cars easy version , Mad world etc) . Also when is the good time to start learning power chords ?

Just few months more to play Green days song , cant wait

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axes2t2 said:
So how many guitar players are there on TDF now,5?

I am just a newbie

, though desmond , faun , gollum , nanducop , bikramjitkar are probably the only one here who play guitar regularly .

Don't worry...you will join us soon

iittopper said:
yup I am done with all the basic 8 chords . Can switch between them easily . Have already learned 3-5 songs ( three little bird , chasing cars easy version , Mad world etc) . Also when is the good time to start learning power chords ?

Just few months more to play Green days song , cant wait

That's cool. I remember learning chasing cars and mad world too

There are two versions of mad world (gary jules). One with chords and another with fingerstyle.

Power chords are easy. You can start anytime. Next milestone for you will be barre chords.

Faun said:
That's cool. I remember learning chasing cars and mad world too There are two versions of mad world (gary jules). One with chords and another with fingerstyle.

Power chords are easy. You can start anytime. Next milestone for you will be barre chords.

yeah i learned gary jules chord version with simple D-DU-U-D strumming , it feels so good to play it

. Also learned "how to save a life" by Fray . Just started learning barre chords . Let see how it goes .

axes2t2 said:
Don't worry...you will join us soon

Does that include me as well ? Don't have expensive gear as you guys(as I mainly play Keyboard) but I do play a Guitar fine

iittopper said:
yup I am done with all the basic 8 chords . Can switch between them easily . Have already learned 3-5 songs ( three little bird , chasing cars easy version , Mad world etc) . Also when is the good time to start learning power chords ?

Just few months more to play Green days song , cant wait

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I am just a newbie , though desmond , faun , gollum , nanducop , bikramjitkar are probably the only one here who play guitar regularly .

I play everyday thanks to rocksmith
plus I do finger practice exercises everyday before going to work. for some strange reason my typing spree has also improved lol

thetechfreak said:
Does that include me as well ? Don't have expensive gear as you guys(as I mainly play Keyboard) but I do play a Guitar fine

Oh my...knew I was missing someone...

We all should totally do a mashup.

How many strings we should touch with the pick for upstrumming ?

iittopper said:
How many strings we should touch with the pick for upstrumming ?

That depends on the song. But, normally. I just pick bottom 3-4 for few songs.

It's not about strumming all strings. Listen with you ears and see that it should sound melodious, not a harsh cacophony, and closer to the song which you are playing (if you are). And the force with which you strum matters too. There are song where few strokes are loud and others in between a bit mellow.

Faun said:
That depends on the song. But, normally. I just pick bottom 3-4 for few songs.

It's not about strumming all strings. Listen with you ears and see that it should sound melodious, not a harsh cacophony, and closer to the song which you are playing (if you are). And the force with which you strum matters too. There are song where few strokes are loud and others in between a bit mellow.

thanks , will keep that in mind

If you are a beginner, don't worry about what strings you strum. Its more important how you hold the chords and that all the strings that you have fret sound proper.

That being said, there are specific strings that are "not included" in some chords (ex. in the D chord, the low E string is not supposed to be played). However, you could get to these once you get familiar with holding the chord patterns first.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
If you are a beginner, don't worry about what strings you strum. Its more important how you hold the chords and that all the strings that you have fret sound proper.

That being said, there are specific strings that are "not included" in some chords (ex. in the D chord, the low E string is not supposed to be played). However, you could get to these once you get familiar with holding the chord patterns first.

Thanks . I have learned all open chord and can switch between them easily ( 60+ change per minute for each pair) . Also i am done with 7th dominant chord (C7,B7 etc) . Before starting barre chord , i want to improve my strumming as changing chord and playing simple 4 down strum is getting very boring . Really want to try rocksmith but cant get the damn cable anywhere in india .

iittopper said:
Thanks . I have learned all open chord and can switch between them easily ( 60+ change per minute for each pair) . Also i am done with 7th dominant chord (C7,B7 etc) . Before starting barre chord , i want to improve my strumming as changing chord and playing simple 4 down strum is getting very boring . Really want to try rocksmith but cant get the damn cable anywhere in india .

Rocksmith wont teach your strumming patterns. Use youtube for that. Just by changing strumming and the dynamics of that, you can create a lot of variety with just one chord.

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iittopper said:
Thanks . I have learned all open chord and can switch between them easily ( 60+ change per minute for each pair) . Also i am done with 7th dominant chord (C7,B7 etc) . Before starting barre chord , i want to improve my strumming as changing chord and playing simple 4 down strum is getting very boring . Really want to try rocksmith but cant get the damn cable anywhere in india .

Since you are following Justin's method, I suggest you go to the songs section and start learning some beginner's songs. He has many tutorials where he teaches both the simple way and proper way of strumming so you can pick up some tips from those. Also, listen carefully to songs and just try to follow the rhythm by muting the strings with your left hand (gently grip the neck so that your fingers touch all the strings but not hard enough to play any notes) and try strumming along. Don't get too caught up with "strumming patterns", as long as it sounds good and close enough. Rocksmith won't teach you how to strum, it's more suited for electric guitar and playing the right notes.

bikramjitkar said:
Since you are following Justin's method, I suggest you go to the songs section and start learning some beginner's songs. He has many tutorials where he teaches both the simple way and proper way of strumming so you can pick up some tips from those. Also, listen carefully to songs and just try to follow the rhythm by muting the strings with your left hand (gently grip the neck so that your fingers touch all the strings but not hard enough to play any notes) and try strumming along. Don't get too caught up with "strumming patterns", as long as it sounds good and close enough. Rocksmith won't teach you how to strum, it's more suited for electric guitar and playing the right notes.

Faun said:
Rocksmith wont teach your strumming patterns. Use youtube for that. Just by changing strumming and the dynamics of that, you can create a lot of variety with just one chord.

Yeah i know that rocksmith wont teach me strumming . Just wanted to play some punk rock songs ( Green day) . I have learned 7-8 songs till now like Back to december , Mad world , Three little birds , how to save a life etc with easy strumming . Since i have an electric guitar i dont get that feel of acoustic playing and justin teach most of the song with the acoustic guitar . So playing this song with simple strumming feels more like changing chords . So i am now working on the strumming pattern before moving on . can you guys link me to a video that teaches some good strumming for beginners ?

iittopper said:
Yeah i know that rocksmith wont teach me strumming . Just wanted to play some punk rock songs ( Green day) . I have learned 7-8 songs till now like Back to december , Mad world , Three little birds , how to save a life etc with easy strumming . Since i have an electric guitar i dont get that feel of acoustic playing and justin teach most of the song with the acoustic guitar . So playing this song with simple strumming feels more like changing chords . So i am now working on the strumming pattern before moving on . can you guys link me to a video that teaches some good strumming for beginners ?

Learn from songs. That's what I do. There are variety of strumming patterns in different songs.

Try You and Me:

Notice the pattern and chord shifts. Pretty cool song to play and sing along.

This one is a difficult song with mutes and barre chords:

Took me some time to get the strumming right. Still can't sing along with strumming.

And this song if you ever get inspired to play fingerstyle

I can't play this one at all

Btw he is using nylon stringed guitar.

Rocksmith is great for practice but you will have to figure out your own flow with songs.
I have no problem with strumming patterns. I feel it all depends on the song that you are playing.
I almost never strum in the same direction.

However, I change the genre of songs every month/fortnight so that I dont get comfortable with a specific style of song list.
This has helped me improve a lot. and made many difficult songs easy to play.

Bachsmith helped me take care of accidental mutes

string skip saloon minigame helped me pick any string without looking at string.

Tried these fingerstyle songs from STALKER and movie A Tale of Two Sister. Getting the hang of it now

Campfire Songs Medley (S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl) Guitar Tab | Game Tabs // Video Game Tablature

A Tale Of Two Sisters - Lullaby Tab by Misc Soundtrack @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Started on You Were There (ICO) too.

Yippeeee ! 2 cool Metro 2033 fingerstyle tabs.

Title Song
Metro 2033 Theme Tab by Misc Computer Games @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com

Variety of style in this one
Guitar Song 2 (Metro 2033) Guitar Tab | Game Tabs // Video Game Tablature

nice find

Started learning Sweet Child o mine riff . Oh man , this will take time .

iittopper said:
Started learning Sweet Child o mine riff . Oh man , this will take time .

Ah, that's a nice song.

Faun said:
Ah, that's a nice song.

Definitely , i was just watching random riff videos and this song popped up . The riff is simple yet so much powerful . Can you play this song ?

iittopper said:
Definitely , i was just watching random riff videos and this song popped up . The riff is simple yet so much powerful . Can you play this song ?

I tried the first riff (starts with D-12, B-15, G-14, G-12, E-15, G-14, E-14). It's easy but I don't usually play solos. Not the fast ones. Not particularly good at that. Can you post the youtube tutorial, I will try.

I play more rhythm guitar stuff posted in above videos. Mainly chords and strumming. Recently trying hands at fingerstyle.

Faun said:
I tried the first riff (starts with D-12, B-15, G-14, G-12, E-15, G-14, E-14). It's easy but I don't usually play solos. Not the fast ones. Not particularly good at that. Can you post the youtube tutorial, I will try.

I play more rhythm guitar stuff posted in above videos. Mainly chords and strumming. Recently trying hands at fingerstyle.

Intro

This tutorial is good . I have learned from it only with alternate picking .

Here is rest of the part ( Verse , Chorus and Solo)
*www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOBqO_KghqI4cgJ3U270cvDM8DJgPx0hW

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iittopper said:
Started learning Sweet Child o mine riff . Oh man , this will take time .

This song is fun to play. The 2nd part of the main solo is difficult to play..

Tried to play Hotel California solo & it feels so much like playing the Comfortably numb solo (same scale).

You guys use guitar pro ? I think its the easiest way to learn songs. (specially solos and powerchords)

The electric version or the acoustic version of Hotel California? I love playing both.

iittopper said:
Intro

This tutorial is good . I have learned from it only with alternate picking .

Here is rest of the part ( Verse , Chorus and Solo)
*www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOBqO_KghqI4cgJ3U270cvDM8DJgPx0hW

Ok, tried first riff.
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/sweet-child-o-mine

For the G14 E15 G14 E14, hold the G14 throughout.

Faun said:
Ok, tried first riff.
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/sweet-child-o-mine

For the G14 E15 G14 E14, hold the G14 throughout.

nice . here is my recording i took it last week . There are mistakes but i have improved now

*soundcloud.com/abdullah-hasan-40/sweet-child-o-mine-riff-learning

iittopper said:
nice . here is my recording i took it last week . There are mistakes but i have improved now

*soundcloud.com/abdullah-hasan-40/sweet-child-o-mine-riff-learning

You are learning fast ! What did you use for the effect ?

Mad world using same electric guitar ?

Faun said:
You are learning fast ! What did you use for the effect ?

Mad world using same electric guitar ?

thanks . Used Distortion channel + increased gain knob to 6 + neck pickup . Yeah Mad world was with the same electric guitar .

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Raaabo said:
The electric version or the acoustic version of Hotel California? I love playing both.

The electric version. I've never really closely heard the acoustic version (if you mean the live version ?)

Gen.Libeb said:
The electric version. I've never really closely heard the acoustic version (if you mean the live version ?)

If by live you mean the "Hell Freezes Over" event, then yes that one is awesome. You should listen to the intro piece in that version. I even partially covered it sometime back.

Its not very polished since I learned it in about 2-3 hours. Also, I am not left handed, I forgot to set the laptop camera to mirror image the video.

Gen.Libeb said:
You guys use guitar pro ? I think its the easiest way to learn songs. (specially solos and powerchords)

Website or App ?

Zangetsu said:
Website or App ?

Guitar Pro is a application that allows you to create and playback tabs. Very useful tool for learning songs, etc. Almost everything that I learned I learned using Guitar Pro.

You can download Guitar Pro tabs from the Ultimate-Guitar site as well.

More info: Guitar Pro 6 - Tablature software for guitar, bass, and other fretted instruments

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
If by live you mean the "Hell Freezes Over" event, then yes that one is awesome. You should listen to the intro piece in that version. I even partially covered it sometime back.

Yeah, that is great. Nice attempt too. Did they ever release a studio version of the acoustic ?

I don't believe they did. I have never heard a studio version of it.

Metro 2033 main menu lick

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/metro-2033-main-menu-lick

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Also, I am not left handed, I forgot to set the laptop camera to mirror image the video.

That's what I thought. but looks great.
I cannot play by hand, learnt with pick, stuck with pick

There are lot of things you can't do with the pick, like plucking two or more strings at the same time.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
There are lot of things you can't do with the pick, like plucking two or more strings at the same time.

Fingerstyle is pretty cool to add depth to the music.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
There are lot of things you can't do with the pick, like plucking two or more strings at the same time.

Faun said:
Fingerstyle is pretty cool to add depth to the music.

yeah, I am going to start this now with my Epiphone lpsp2
Will keep the yamaha for pick. Also gonna change to polarity of my DiMarzio pickup as it is right now very heavy.

Fingerpicking is always best on nylon string classical guitars. Check this out:

It's the Tristram town theme from Diablo 1 and 2. Makes me want to buy a classical guitar.

The original was played on a 12 string guitar.

Faun said:
Metro 2033 main menu lick

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/metro-2033-main-menu-lick

Good one . Definitely bring back good memories from the game . You should upload the longer version .

iittopper said:
Good one . Definitely bring back good memories from the game . You should upload the longer version .

Yeah, there are minor differences in chords. Will do. I am a slow learner.

Recorded something else from Shadow of the Colossus
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/the-farthest-land-sotc-intro

Applied noise reduction to the track.

Happy Birthday Dimebag Darell. RIP.

From his 1993 clinic:

Guys what amps do y'all have ?

axes2t2 said:
Guys what amps do y'all have ?

Roland Micro Cube. Was planning on getting a Laney 15watt for a while now.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Roland Micro Cube. Was planning on getting a Laney 15watt for a while now.

Well I currently have Peavey Rage 158 and thinking about upgrading too.

Fender Mustang II
Marshall MG30CFX
Peavey Vip 2
Roland 40XL

Tough choices...

any other recommendations and views on the above?

Marshall is good if you play on drive or distortion. Fender is good for cleans though I an not sure about the drive on the Mustang. The rest are modeling amps I think but don't know much about them.

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What type of music do you plan on playing?

desmond david said:
marshall is good if you play on drive or distortion. Fender is good for cleans though i an not sure about the drive on the mustang. The rest are modeling amps i think but don't know much about them.

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what type of music do you plan on playing?

acdc,rhcp ...

The Marshall would be good then. However, the Marshall only has plain drive, you will have to make your own effects chain if you want additional effects.

However, If you want some effects, then consider the Peavey or the Roland multi-effects amps.

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Bought an Alesis DM6 electronic drum kit for around 27k a couple of days back. Always wanted to play drums but couldn't due to lack of space and money lol. So far, have learnt a couple of basic 4x4 beats and trying to learn some fills, but the hand-feet co-ordination while keeping time is killing me!

bikramjitkar said:
Bought an Alesis DM6 electronic drum kit for around 27k a couple of days back. Always wanted to play drums but couldn't due to lack of space and money lol. So far, have learnt a couple of basic 4x4 beats and trying to learn some fills, but the hand-feet co-ordination while keeping time is killing me!

Cool. First start with simple 4/4 kick snare combo. Better practice with a metronome to get your timing right.

You should be able to play without a metronome after some practice.

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Cool. First start with simple 4/4 kick snare combo. Better practice with a metronome to get your timing right.

You should be able to play without a metronome after some practice.

Yup, practicing with the built-in metronome.

bikramjitkar said:
Yup, practicing with the built-in metronome.

Welcome to the coolest thread on TDF.

Also @DeSmOnD dAvId

I am considering going for a Blackstar HT1 or Orange micro terror.

Opinions ?

Micro Terror is just an amp head. You will also need a cabinet to use with it.

Don't know about Blackstar, but the Micro Terror has crazy distortion. Listen to Boris and you will know.

I know about the Terror.

I feel that a good cabinet will go over my budget or even if I buy,it will be too much for a bedroom guitarist.

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axes2t2 said:
Welcome to the coolest thread on TDF.

Lol, thanks. I have posted in this thread before, though. Have been playing guitar for 5-6 years now. My gear - Cort KX1Q guitar, Laney LX12 amp and Boss MT2 Metal Zone distortion pedal. Getting into drums now.

bikramjitkar said:
Lol, thanks. I have posted in this thread before, though. Have been playing guitar for 5-6 years now. My gear - Cort KX1Q guitar, Laney LX12 amp and Boss MT2 Metal Zone distortion pedal. Getting into drums now.

How is the pedal sound ?

axes2t2 said:
I know about the Terror.

I feel that a good cabinet will go over my budget or even if I buy,it will be too much for a bedroom guitarist.

At least you should have 12'' speaker cabinet if you want to get an amp head. Otherwise no use.

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axes2t2 said:
How is the pedal sound ?

Why the "

" ?

The pedal sounds good as long as the distortion is at a medium level. Too high and it sounds like bees buzzing. :lol:

From what I know, Metal Zone has a pretty weird eq. However, people say that you can even get Hendrix or Santana tones out of it if you know how to tweak it.

bikramjitkar said:
Why the "" ?

The pedal sounds good as long as the distortion is at a medium level. Too high and it sounds like bees buzzing.

5-6 years for me too.

No pedals though

If you don't want to spend too much. Get a multi-effects pedal.

Now I am caught up between Orange micro terror + cab OR Roland Cube 40 XL.

axes2t2 said:
Now I am caught up between Orange micro terror + cab OR Roland Cube 40 XL.

I got Cube 40 GX. Warm sounding amp.

The Orange Micro Terror is a hybrid tube amp. That means that the preamp is tube and the power amp is solid state. The Roland Cube 40 is a fully solid state amp. Therefore, the Orange will have better tone but no effects, therefore you will have to rely on external pedals. The Roland Cube has built in effects and amp models.

The question therefore really is whether you value tone or effects. If you are looking for crisp tone, then get Orange otherwise get Roland.

Also note that the Micro Terror is just an amp head the you will have to invest in a speaker cabinet as well. You can try to look for second hand cabinets in your city if you are on a budget or you could get some carpenter to build one for you with a good speaker if you know what you are doing.

Will visits shops in my area today,tomorrow to get prices on the Micro+Cab and Cube 40.

Found a tutorial for "Broken by Seether"

Found a better "Hinder - Lips of an Angel" tutorial

D DU UDU

Anybody knows Canon Rock Song ? It looks awesome to learn though i am not sure if i should try it learning .

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iittopper said:
Anybody knows Canon Rock Song ? It looks awesome to learn though i am not sure if i should try it learning .

Its great. There are so many cool covers of it on youtube.

Sure try learning it. I been practising it for quite some time but still can't get it without mistakes or making it sound as good but it feels nice to play.

Heard of Crystallize ? Its on violin but still fun to play on guitar.

This is the one by lindsey Stirling?

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izzikio_rage said:
This is the one by lindsey Stirling?

Crystallize, Yeah, by Lindsey Stirling

Watch this get inspired, or quit guitar:

Faun said:
Found a tutorial for "Broken by Seether"

Oh Gawd ! I am getting so closer to play this. Hopefully this weekend I will have a recording done. :mrgreen:

Gen.Libeb said:
Its great. There are so many cool covers of it on youtube.

Heard of Crystallize ? Its on violin but still fun to play on guitar.

Wow , that was really awesome .

Found guitar tabs for Canon in D. So much fun !

CANON IN D by Pachelbel: Fingerstyle Guitar Lesson - GuitarNick.com

When it comes to amps the guitar stores in India suck.

The products they have in stock are complete crap.

Look for Calor amps. Its a company founded by one guy in Mumbai and he sells hand made tube amps and heads. Really high quality stuff. But price is also some what expensive.

But then you have to shell out a bit if you want high quality stuff.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Look for Calor amps. Its a company founded by one guy in Mumbai and he sells hand made tube amps and heads. Really high quality stuff. But price is also some what expensive.

But then you have to shell out a bit if you want high quality stuff.

Video kahan pe hai?
Where is the video?

You can search for it.

Any way, here you go:

[video]*youtu.be/5wpI_txC6uc[/video]

Ehsaan Noorani's testimonial:

[video]*youtu.be/niOWKPfJFW4[/video]

Faun said:
Oh Gawd ! I am getting so closer to play this. Hopefully this weekend I will have a recording done.

[MENTION=156672]Desmond[/MENTION], it was for Faun

Then why you quote my post?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Then why you quote my post?

got confused

Gollum said:
Video kahan pe hai?
Where is the video?

Video nahi. Audio hai. Played a bit fast.

Here is the upload:
*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/broken-seether-riff

Can record better now. Trying Canon in D for now and a bit of Poets of the Fall stuff.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Look for Calor amps. Its a company founded by one guy in Mumbai and he sells hand made tube amps and heads. Really high quality stuff. But price is also some what expensive.

But then you have to shell out a bit if you want high quality stuff.

Thanks for this,will have to save some more...

But really trying for a Blackstar HT5.

Get Yamaha F310 for 7k after applying HDFC 15% in app cashback on the lightning deal:

*www.amazon.in/gp/product/B000RVYW7E?ref_=gb1h_img_c-2_0187_38da4ac3&smid=A2CRRONKSJQ8AC

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Faun said:
Get Yamaha F310 for 7k after applying HDFC 15% in app cashback on the lightning deal:

Yamaha F310 Full Size Acoustic Guitar, Natural: Amazon.in: Musical Instruments

imo, one should never buy a guitar without trying it out personally, unless they absolutely can't. Every instrument is built differently even if the "specs" are the same.

bikramjitkar said:
imo, one should never buy a guitar without trying it out personally, unless they absolutely can't. Every instrument is built differently even if the "specs" are the same.

I'd trust the good brand models and if I get a sweet deal I won't think about trying it first. With Amazon Fulfilled orders you can ask for a replacement or refund (money back into your bank account) without any questions asked.

Do they transport safely? Because you need to take special precautions while transporting guitars to make sure they don't get damaged.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Do they transport safely? Because you need to take special precautions while transporting guitars to make sure they don't get damaged.

Yeah, they ship with special precautions.

Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar deal @8 AM. Current price 18,995.

Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar: Amazon.in: Musical Instruments

Faun said:
Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar deal @8 AM. Current price 18,995.

Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar: Amazon.in: Musical Instruments

Fuuuuuk I wants
Already have 2 guitars

Someone want to buy used Epiphone? (cherry red Les Paul special II) Less than a year old.

Faun said:
Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar deal @8 AM. Current price 18,995.

Ibanez GRG170DX Electric Guitar: Amazon.in: Musical Instruments

I used to own that one. I had got it for 13k though from local seller. For 18k I can get an ESP Eclipse at a local shop.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I used to own that one. I had got it for 13k though from local seller. For 18k I can get an ESP Eclipse at a local shop.

Not good discount. I was hoping for near 12k.

Faun said:
Not good discount. I was hoping for near 12k.

12k you will get Avion AV1, an absolute minimum beginners guitar. Not a bad guitar, but not very good either.

That Ibanez 170DX has decent tone but nothing very special about it. More suitable for metal music. Tones are not very clean, especially on the mid pickup. Also, it has a relatively slower neck because of the medium frets but that is a matter of preference. I personally prefer jumbo frets because its faster.

One good thing is the two way tremolo bar, however the guitar will get out of tune after using it 5-6 times. Also, it has a five way selector switch for B, BM, M, MN, N humbucker combinations.

But its the most bang for the buck guitar you can get, if you can get it cheap.

Here you can check the tone:

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
12k you will get Avion AV1, an absolute minimum beginners guitar. Not a bad guitar, but not very good either.

That Ibanez 170DX has decent tone but nothing very special about it. More suitable for metal music. Tones are not very clean, especially on the mid pickup. Also, it has a relatively slower neck because of the medium frets but that is a matter of preference. I personally prefer jumbo frets because its faster.

One good thing is the two way tremolo bar, however the guitar will get out of tune after using it 5-6 times. Also, it has a five way selector switch for B, BM, M, MN, N humbucker combinations.

But its the most bang for the buck guitar you can get, if you can get it cheap.

Here you can check the tone:

I am not looking for another electric guitar. Classical guitar may be. Or if I could grab a discounted keyboard like Yamaha E243 or E343.

Yeah, it's more for metal music with those pick ups.

Get a Yamaha nylon string guitar. You could get one for around 8k I think.

My of my hostel mates had one in college and I tried it out. It sounds awesome.

^^ That's a lovely guitar...

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Get a Yamaha nylon string guitar. You could get one for around 8k I think.

My of my hostel mates had one in college and I tried it out. It sounds awesome.

Yeah, but I am not thinking of spending 8k. Will wait for some offers.

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Faun said:
Yeah, but I am not thinking of spending 8k. Will wait for some offers.

8-10k is the minimum for decent acoustic/classical guitars. A good one should last for a very long time, so don't skimp now and regret later.

Also, 18k for that GRG170dx is waaaay too much. I remember it being 12-13k a few years back.

Surprised that so few people are recommending the Epiphone Les paul special 2. It's an awesome guitar for 12k

Jeena Jeena riff from badlapur

Jeena Jeena Riff (Badlapur) by psygeist | Free Listening on SoundCloud

Chucking technique in there

Faun said:
Jeena Jeena riff from badlapur

Jeena Jeena Riff (Badlapur) by psygeist | Free Listening on SoundCloud

Chucking technique in there

You are getting there.Let your strings ring out a little more during the single strums.

axes2t2 said:
You are getting there.Let your strings ring out a little more during the single strums.

Yeah, single strums needs improvement. Will record along with singing.

I ordered this capo:
Planet Waves : NS Capo, Black

Which capo are you guys using ? I didn't intend to buy a capo but couple of songs require that to sound better.

Holly Molly...Superb

I don't remember what brand my capo is...

Getting closer to play this (from My Sassy Girl, I believe).

Intro:
|-0----------------|---------------|------------------|------------------|
|---0-----3-----3-|-1-0--------0--|-------0-1---3----|-------0-1---3-0--|
|-----2-0-----0---|---------------|-0---0-----0---0--|-0---0-----0------|
|------------0-----|-----2-3-4-----|---0-----2---4----|---0-----2---4----|
|-3-------2--------|-0-------5-----|------------------|------------------|
|------------------|---------------|-3----------------|-3-------------3--|

Verse:
|------------------|------------------|--------------------|------------------|
|---3-------3---0-|-1-0-1-3-0--------|-----0-------2------|-------------3-1--|
|-----0-2-----2---|---------------2--|-0-------2----------|-0---0-2-2--------|
|-0-------0-------|-----------0-4----|---2---2---2---2-4--|---4-----0-0------|
|------------------|-3----------------|---------0----------|-3----------------|
|-------2----------|---------3--------|-0------------------|------------------|
|--------------------|-------------------|-------0--------------|----------------|
|-0---3-------3---0-|-1-0-1-3-0---------|-----0---0-----2------|-------------3--|
|-------0-2-----2---|----------------2--|-0---------2----------|-0---0-2-2------|
|---0-------0--------|------------0-4----|---2---------2---2-4--|---4-----0-0----|
|---------2----------|-3-----------------|-----------0----------|-3--------------|
|-3------------------|---------3---------|-0--------------------|----------------|

Pre Chorus:
|------------------|---0-----------0-2--|-3-2-3-----0-0-0--0---0----|-------3-2-------|
|---------0-3-3-3-|-3---1-3-0----------|-------0------------3---3--|-3---3------3----|
|-----0-2----------|-------------0------|---------2-----------------|---2----------2--|
|---2--------------|-----0-----0--------|---------------------------|-0---------------|
|-3-------2--------|-0------------------|---------0--------0--------|-----------------|
|------------------|---------3----------|-0-------------------------|-----------------|

Chorus:
|---------------0--|-------3-2---0----|---0----------------|-----0----------|
|-------3-1-0-1---|-3----------------|-3---1-0-1----------|-1-3---3-0------|
|-----0------------|-----0-----0---0--|-----------------0--|-----------2----|
|---0-----0-------|---0--------------|-------------2-4----|---------0---0--|
|------------------|-2----------------|-0---------0--------|-3--------------|
|-3----------------|---------0--------|--------------------|----------------|
|---------------0--|---------------0-2--|-2-3-3-------3-2-3--|-2-0-0-------0--|
|-------3-1-0-1---|-3-----3-3-4-4------|--------------------|----------------|
|-----0------------|-----0--------------|-------0---0--------|-------0---0----|
|---0-----0-------|---0----------------|---------0----------|----------------|
|------------------|-2---------2--------|--------------------|-4-------3------|
|-3----------------|--------------------|-0------------------|----------------|

( Repeat.. 'Intro, Pre Chorus and Chorus' )
|-0----------------------------|
|---0-----3-----3-1-0-------0--|
|-----2-0-----0----------------|
|-----------0---------2-3-4----|
|-3-------2-------0-------5----|
|------------------------------|

Bridge:
|-----0---0---2-0-|-0---0-2-----0-2--|-3-----3-2-3-2------|-0---0-0--0-1----|
|-----1------------|---4-----4--------|-----0---------3-3--|---3----------3--|
|-------0---0------|-----------4------|---0----------------|-----------------|
|---2--------------|------------------|---------0----------|-----------------|
|-3-------3--------|-2-------2--------|--------------------|-3---------------|
|------------------|------------------|-0------------------|----------0------|
|---0-----------|-----0-2--2-3-3----|-----3-1--------|-------3-2--------|
|-1---3----3-3-|-4-4---------------|---------4-3-1--|-3---3-----3---3--|
|-----2---------|----------------0--|---0---1--------|---2---------2----|
|--------0------|-------------------|-1--------------|-0----------------|
|-0-------------|-2-----------------|----------------|------------------|
|-----2---------|----------0--------|----------------|------------------|

Ending:
|-0----------------|--------------|-------0--------0--|-0----------------|
|---0-----3-----3-|-1-0-------0--|-----0--------0----|---0-----3-----3--|
|-----2-0-----0----|--------------|---0--------0------|-----2-0-----0----|
|-----------0------|-----2-3-4----|-2--------1--------|-----------0------|
|-3-------2--------|-0-------5----|-------------------|-3-------2--------|
|------------------|--------------|-------------------|------------------|
^
|--------------|------------------|----------------|-3---------|
|-1-0-------0-|-------0-1---3----|-0-----0-1---3--|-0---------|
|--------------|-0---0-----0---0--|-----0-----0----|-0---------|
|-----2-3-4---|---0-----2---4----|---0-----2---4--|-0---------|
|-0-------5---|------------------|----------------|-2---------|
|--------------|-3----------------|-3--------------|-3---------|

Another one with half mutes

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/waiting-for-love-avicii-cover

Faun said:
Another one with half mutes

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/waiting-for-love-avicii-cover

Which phone do you have?
Upload a video mate, you can take a closeup video so that your face is not visible.
Upload it to youtube.

Gollum said:
Which phone do you have?
Upload a video mate, you can take a closeup video so that your face is not visible.
Upload it to youtube.

Bought a portable recorder Zoom H1.

Video takes too much time over my connection. Audio is about 1 MB. I will upload when I do some more good stuff, with singing.

Kiss Me - Sixpence None the Richer. Vocals by a friend

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/kiss-me-cover

Faun said:

Getting closer to play this (from My Sassy Girl, I believe).

Code:

Intro:
|-0----------------|---------------|------------------|------------------|
|---0-----3-----3-|-1-0--------0--|-------0-1---3----|-------0-1---3-0--|
|-----2-0-----0---|---------------|-0---0-----0---0--|-0---0-----0------|
|------------0-----|-----2-3-4-----|---0-----2---4----|---0-----2---4----|
|-3-------2--------|-0-------5-----|------------------|------------------|
|------------------|---------------|-3----------------|-3-------------3--|

Verse:
|------------------|------------------|--------------------|------------------|
|---3-------3---0-|-1-0-1-3-0--------|-----0-------2------|-------------3-1--|
|-----0-2-----2---|---------------2--|-0-------2----------|-0---0-2-2--------|
|-0-------0-------|-----------0-4----|---2---2---2---2-4--|---4-----0-0------|
|------------------|-3----------------|---------0----------|-3----------------|
|-------2----------|---------3--------|-0------------------|------------------|
|--------------------|-------------------|-------0--------------|----------------|
|-0---3-------3---0-|-1-0-1-3-0---------|-----0---0-----2------|-------------3--|
|-------0-2-----2---|----------------2--|-0---------2----------|-0---0-2-2------|
|---0-------0--------|------------0-4----|---2---------2---2-4--|---4-----0-0----|
|---------2----------|-3-----------------|-----------0----------|-3--------------|
|-3------------------|---------3---------|-0--------------------|----------------|

Pre Chorus:
|------------------|---0-----------0-2--|-3-2-3-----0-0-0--0---0----|-------3-2-------|
|---------0-3-3-3-|-3---1-3-0----------|-------0------------3---3--|-3---3------3----|
|-----0-2----------|-------------0------|---------2-----------------|---2----------2--|
|---2--------------|-----0-----0--------|---------------------------|-0---------------|
|-3-------2--------|-0------------------|---------0--------0--------|-----------------|
|------------------|---------3----------|-0-------------------------|-----------------|

Chorus:
|---------------0--|-------3-2---0----|---0----------------|-----0----------|
|-------3-1-0-1---|-3----------------|-3---1-0-1----------|-1-3---3-0------|
|-----0------------|-----0-----0---0--|-----------------0--|-----------2----|
|---0-----0-------|---0--------------|-------------2-4----|---------0---0--|
|------------------|-2----------------|-0---------0--------|-3--------------|
|-3----------------|---------0--------|--------------------|----------------|
|---------------0--|---------------0-2--|-2-3-3-------3-2-3--|-2-0-0-------0--|
|-------3-1-0-1---|-3-----3-3-4-4------|--------------------|----------------|
|-----0------------|-----0--------------|-------0---0--------|-------0---0----|
|---0-----0-------|---0----------------|---------0----------|----------------|
|------------------|-2---------2--------|--------------------|-4-------3------|
|-3----------------|--------------------|-0------------------|----------------|

( Repeat.. 'Intro, Pre Chorus and Chorus' )
|-0----------------------------|
|---0-----3-----3-1-0-------0--|
|-----2-0-----0----------------|
|-----------0---------2-3-4----|
|-3-------2-------0-------5----|
|------------------------------|

Bridge:
|-----0---0---2-0-|-0---0-2-----0-2--|-3-----3-2-3-2------|-0---0-0--0-1----|
|-----1------------|---4-----4--------|-----0---------3-3--|---3----------3--|
|-------0---0------|-----------4------|---0----------------|-----------------|
|---2--------------|------------------|---------0----------|-----------------|
|-3-------3--------|-2-------2--------|--------------------|-3---------------|
|------------------|------------------|-0------------------|----------0------|
|---0-----------|-----0-2--2-3-3----|-----3-1--------|-------3-2--------|
|-1---3----3-3-|-4-4---------------|---------4-3-1--|-3---3-----3---3--|
|-----2---------|----------------0--|---0---1--------|---2---------2----|
|--------0------|-------------------|-1--------------|-0----------------|
|-0-------------|-2-----------------|----------------|------------------|
|-----2---------|----------0--------|----------------|------------------|

Ending:
|-0----------------|--------------|-------0--------0--|-0----------------|
|---0-----3-----3-|-1-0-------0--|-----0--------0----|---0-----3-----3--|
|-----2-0-----0----|--------------|---0--------0------|-----2-0-----0----|
|-----------0------|-----2-3-4----|-2--------1--------|-----------0------|
|-3-------2--------|-0-------5----|-------------------|-3-------2--------|
|------------------|--------------|-------------------|------------------|
^
|--------------|------------------|----------------|-3---------|
|-1-0-------0-|-------0-1---3----|-0-----0-1---3--|-0---------|
|--------------|-0---0-----0---0--|-----0-----0----|-0---------|
|-----2-3-4---|---0-----2---4----|---0-----2---4--|-0---------|
|-0-------5---|------------------|----------------|-2---------|
|--------------|-3----------------|-3--------------|-3---------|

Looks fingerpicked. Have you covered this in full?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Looks fingerpicked. Have you covered this in full?

Not yet. There are few parts in Chorus and Bridge where I need to do better.

I had been playing this for a while:

Pretty easy song to pick up.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I had been playing this for a while:

Pretty easy song to pick up.

It's nice. I will try this. Combination of picking and strumming.

I tried this before, poets of the fall, you must have heard the band name:

This has strum hand mutes and pretty cool riff.

E|---0--------0-------3---2---0-----|
B|---0---3---3---3---3---3-----3---|
G|---0---0-------0-------2-------2--|
D|------------------------------------| (repeat throughout the intro)
A|-------3----------------------------|
E|-0-------------3--------2----------|

Amazing

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I had been playing this for a while:

Pretty easy song to pick up.

These are the best tabs i could find

*tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/t/the_handsome_family/far_from_any_road_true_detective_theme_tab.htm

Faun said:
These are the best tabs i could find

*tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/t/the_handsome_family/far_from_any_road_true_detective_theme_tab.htm

You just need the chords. Rest is how you strum, which you can pickup from listening to the song.

Quiet's theme tabs and chords from MGS V

*tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/misc_co..._solid_v_-_quiets_theme_humming_track_tab.htm

Starting riff from Soch Na Sake - Airlift.

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/soch-na-sake

Faun said:
Starting riff from Soch Na Sake - Airlift.

*soundcloud.com/psygeist-1/soch-na-sake

Nice . BTW do you learn entire song or just the riff section

.

Almost 10 month of guitar playing , and i am getting good progress . Learned all open chord , slash chord , barre chord , Power chord , minor and major scale . Now focusing on alternate picking and solo .

iittopper said:
Nice . BTW do you learn entire song or just the riff section .

Almost 10 month of guitar playing , and i am getting good progress . Learned all open chord , slash chord , barre chord , Power chord , minor and major scale . Now focusing on alternate picking and solo .

Just the riff. Song is mostly chords strums after that.

Yeah, the more you practice with variety of stuff the better you get. And the variety keeps you from getting bored of monotony.

I am getting better at fingerstyle stuff.

iittopper said:
Nice . BTW do you learn entire song or just the riff section .

Almost 10 month of guitar playing , and i am getting good progress . Learned all open chord , slash chord , barre chord , Power chord , minor and major scale . Now focusing on alternate picking and solo .

Thanks for letting me know the slash chord

i thought it was Slash's chord like the Hendrix chord

A slash chord is a normal chord with an extra note on one of the bass strings.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
A slash chord is a normal chord with an extra note on one of the bass strings.

yup found it !

axes2t2 said:
When it comes to amps the guitar stores in India suck.

The products they have in stock are complete crap.

I feel like giving up...

axes2t2 said:
I feel like giving up...

its okay.it becomes a routine afterwards !

Have you tried the tonestack app..Its an amp simulation good for practice...almost gets that gilmour tone

Nanducob said:
its okay.it becomes a routine afterwards !

Have you tried the tonestack app..Its an amp simulation good for practice...almost gets that gilmour tone

Can't find it for Android.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Can't find it for Android.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

its for ios.there are other sims too ....search for amplitube..its for android...

Will visit two shops tomorrow.

Hoping...

axes2t2 said:
Will visit two shops tomorrow.

Hoping...

whats your budget?

Nanducob said:
whats your budget?

30k...

axes2t2 said:
30k...

Wow. You looking for practice amp or stage amp? In 30k you can get a good high power solid state amp head plus cabinet. Still I think your budget is too high for a single room practice amp.

If you really want to burn that much on a practice amp, then get a Laney Cub 12R 15W full tube amp with 12'' Celestion Rocket speakers. Price is around 27k, but its completely vanilla other than the tubes.

But I'd suggest you get something like Roland Cube for appx 10-15k. That should be more than enough plus it has in built effects, so you don't have to invest extra to build your signal chain.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Wow. You looking for practice amp or stage amp? In 30k you can get a good high power solid state amp head plus cabinet. Still I think your budget is too high for a single room practice amp.

If you really want to burn that much on a practice amp, then get a Laney Cub 12R 15W full tube amp with 12'' Celestion Rocket speakers. Price is around 27k, but its completely vanilla other than the tubes.

But I'd suggest you get something like Roland Cube for appx 10-15k. That should be more than enough plus it has in built effects, so you don't have to invest extra to build your signal chain.

The problem with those solid state amps is that you can only use 1 effect at a time.

axes2t2 said:
The problem with those solid state amps is that you can only use 1 effect at a time.

Lol. Who told you that?

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DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Lol. Who told you that?

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

I meant if you don't have the footswitch.

Which Solid state amp do you have in mind which lets play with multiple effects ?

axes2t2 said:
I meant if you don't have the footswitch.

Which Solid state amp do you have in mind which lets play with multiple effects ?

What took you so long to reply XD jk I would suggest to spend as much as you have to get a good amp so that you dont need to upgrade it....doesnt mean you need to shell in much there are vfm options.And also check for the artists that you like and the amps theyre using etc..for just practice the Roland Cube suggested by Desmond is good enough...

I just have this guitar now.After having entry level ones for long, this one feels more like a real guitar XD

*s16.postimg.org/a9ymvh9et/image.jpg

Its PRS se custom 24 FR

And this cheap headphone amp.

*s29.postimg.org/grb9cx35j/image.jpg

So im basically saving for a nice amp so that i can experiment with it and find the tone i want and when i hit the stage

i dont need to change da old one..So if you have the money just pull da triggerz !

The perfect amp for me would be Marshall DSL5c.But it will be too early for me to buy that.

Thinking of getting Laney Cub 10 because I don't want to waste time playing with effects on the amp.Maybe I will add a overdrive or distortion pedal.I will be sorted as far as amps go.

Also can't see your pics

^^fixed

axes2t2 said:
The perfect amp for me would be Marshall DSL5c.But it will be too early for me to buy that.

Thinking of getting Laney Cub 10 because I don't want to waste time playing with effects on the amp.Maybe I will add a overdrive or distortion pedal.I will be sorted as far as amps go.

Also can't see your pics

The Cub 10 already has distortion and drive. Configurable by increasing the gain. There is no delay or reverb though, so you might want to get pedals for that but these are not mandatory effects. You really don't need extra overdrive or distortion pedals unless you are not getting enough drive from your amp or if you are looking for a very particular sound.

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Nanducob said:
What took you so long to reply XD jk I would suggest to spend as much as you have to get a good amp so that you dont need to upgrade it....doesnt mean you need to shell in much there are vfm options.And also check for the artists that you like and the amps theyre using etc..for just practice the Roland Cube suggested by Desmond is good enough...

I just have this guitar now.After having entry level ones for long, this one feels more like a real guitar XD

*s16.postimg.org/a9ymvh9et/image.jpg

Its PRS se custom 24 FR

And this cheap headphone amp.

*s29.postimg.org/grb9cx35j/image.jpg

So im basically saving for a nice amp so that i can experiment with it and find the tone i want and when i hit the stage i dont need to change da old one..So if you have the money just pull da triggerz !

Cool guitar bro. Give a sound sample if you can.

Damages?

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
The Cub 10 already has distortion and drive. Configurable by increasing the gain. There is no delay or reverb though, so you might want to get pedals for that but these are not mandatory effects. You really don't need extra overdrive or distortion pedals unless you are not getting enough drive from your amp or if you are looking for a very particular sound.

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Cool guitar bro. Give a sound sample if you can.

Damages?

sure ill upload one sample.Bought it used around $650

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
The Cub 10 already has distortion and drive. Configurable by increasing the gain. There is no delay or reverb though, so you might want to get pedals for that but these are not mandatory effects. You really don't need extra overdrive or distortion pedals unless you are not getting enough drive from your amp or if you are looking for a very particular sound.

I will need an equalizer pedal atleast.

Get it if you need to. But first see if you really need it.

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You might also need a pre-amp pedal in front of your EQ pedal since equalizing unboosted signal from your guitar is useless, there won't be any noticeable difference.

Just a quick update. Instead of using a discrete effects pedal, why not get a multi-effects pedal? It usually has all the effects, amp models and cab models that you'd need and it boosts your raw guitar signal by default. All you need to do is set your amp to clean and plug the pedal in.

Finished setting up my Floyd rose bridge.Took me 12 hours straight 3 pm to 3 am..Learned a lot like FR mechanism,String action,Intonation,setup,String Spring tension etc.If you like physics you ll definitely like setting it up.
Now its more playable ,just want to reduce more action but couldnt lose the sustain :/

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Just a quick update. Instead of using a discrete effects pedal, why not get a multi-effects pedal? It usually has all the effects, amp models and cab models that you'd need and it boosts your raw guitar signal by default. All you need to do is set your amp to clean and plug the pedal in.

Will have a look into those multi effects.The same problem as amps.The products variety our stores have is not good.

Also the Laney is all tube,why would it need a pre amp pedal ?

axes2t2 said:
Will have a look into those multi effects.The same problem as amps.The products variety our stores have is not good.

Also the Laney is all tube,why would it need a pre amp pedal ?

Because the tube amp has two different valves. A pre-amp valve and an output valve. Your guitar signal first gets pre-amp'd in the pre-amp valve and then goes through the effects (if the amp has those) and then goes through the output valve before getting played on the speaker. Therefore in short:

Guitar > [Pre-amp valve > EQ, effects, volume etc > output valve > Speaker].

Without Pre-amp pedal:

Guitar > EQ > [Pre-amp > effects, volume, etc > output valve > Speaker].

If the amp has effects loop, this problem gets mitigated in the following manner:

Guitar > [Pre-amp > FX loop out] > Pedal chain (EQ pedal will be somewhere in here) > [FX loop in > output valve > Speaker].

I think it would be better if you get an amp which has an onboard 3 band eq if you require it. Otherwise, get an overdrive pedal that has a 3 band eq on it.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
Because the tube amp has two different valves. A pre-amp valve and an output valve. Your guitar signal first gets pre-amp'd in the pre-amp valve and then goes through the effects (if the amp has those) and then goes through the output valve before getting played on the speaker. Therefore in short:

Guitar > [Pre-amp valve > EQ, effects, volume etc > output valve > Speaker].

Without Pre-amp pedal:

Guitar > EQ > [Pre-amp > effects, volume, etc > output valve > Speaker].

If the amp has effects loop, this problem gets mitigated in the following manner:

Guitar > [Pre-amp > FX loop out] > Pedal chain (EQ pedal will be somewhere in here) > [FX loop in > output valve > Speaker].

I think it would be better if you get an amp which has an onboard 3 band eq if you require it. Otherwise, get an overdrive pedal that has a 3 band eq on it.

That will be mandatory

Cub 10 has pre amp tubes so I think it will work fine.

But you are putting EQ in front of the pre-amp.

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Will have to try it out in the shop.

Various forum posts on some other sites say it will fine.

Still, I think that it would be better to get a drive pedal which has EQ instead of vanilla EQ pedal. Try it out better and see if the tone is to your liking.

Guys, anyone up for trying All The way 4U by Poets of the Fall ?

I have been practicing it for past few weeks.

All The Way 4 U Tab by Poets of the Fall @ Ultimate-Guitar.Co

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I've been trying to record guitar via Digitech Rp255 through Cubase but I am having latency problems. Right now it shows 16ms with Asio4All. Can a dedicated soundcard make a difference?

Here's an attempt at Slipknot - Before I forget. Recorded 2 guitars seperately.

Will listen to it later, but you cannot completely eliminate latency (while recording). However, Cubase should have an option to compensate for latency (Audacity has it).

G

Probably my favorite Slipknot song - Vermilion Part 1. Again a try with 2 guitars.
Slipknot - vermillion-1

One of the first songs I learnt to play - Evanescence - Everybody's Fool. I like the way this came out.
Evanescence-Everybody's Fool

Gen.Libeb said:
Probably my favorite Slipknot song - Vermilion Part 1. Again a try with 2 guitars.
Slipknot - vermillion-1

One of the first songs I learnt to play - Evanescence - Everybody's Fool. I like the way this came out.
Evanescence-Everybody's Fool

whats your guitar rig/recording chain like ?

G

Nanducob said:
whats your guitar rig/recording chain like ?

Guitar -> Digitech Rp255 processor -> (via usb) - > PC -> Asio4ALL -> Cubase (optional - only for recording) -> PC Speakers

At other times I have 2 inputs to RP 255.

PC -> DigitechRp255 (via aux line in)
Guitar -> Digitech Rp255 processor -> Speakers

There is no latency this way & cannot record but I have to unplug and replug the speaker wires (from PC to processor) everytime.

Btw your PRS is looking awesome some pages back. While playing what kind of difference do you see?

Gen.Libeb said:
Guitar -> Digitech Rp255 processor -> (via usb) - > PC -> Asio4ALL -> Cubase (optional - only for recording) -> PC Speakers

At other times I have 2 inputs to RP 255.

PC -> DigitechRp255 (via aux line in)
Guitar -> Digitech Rp255 processor -> Speakers

There is no latency this way & cannot record but I have to unplug and replug the speaker wires (from PC to processor) everytime.

Btw your PRS is looking awesome some pages back. While playing what kind of difference do you see?

Im kind of noob at this ... just started using Irig 2 IK Multimedia | iRig 2 - Guitar interface adapter for iPad, iPhone iPod touch, Android and Mac to simulate amp in the tonetack app in Ipad air 2.cleans seem to be fine but when i increase the gain it seems to distort a lot.Maybe im not patient enough to fiddle the settings as other people had great things to say about the app and the irig 2,but i already asked for a refund.zero latency issues(has a buffer size of upto 64).

Help with reducing I/O latency [Archive] - Cockos Confederated Forums

This guy is also has the same problem ,i think it might have to do with windows.Like somebody said try to reduce the buffer size.

I dont have a good amp to see how the prs sounds but i can get a variety of tones from the sim and the headphone amp.I guess modelling/simulation isnt for me(had aplan to buy the zoom g1xon processor ,dropped it cos of too much hassle)
so i am planning to buy new practice amp and some pedal

Desmond David said:
Just a quick update. Instead of using a discrete effects pedal, why not get a multi-effects pedal? It usually has all the effects, amp models and cab models that you'd need and it boosts your raw guitar signal by default. All you need to do is set your amp to clean and plug the pedal in.

zoom g1Xon is getting good love...its the cheapest one 49 $ and 69 $ with expression pedal
Amazon.com: Zoom G1Xon Guitar Effects Pedal with Expression Pedal: Musical Instrument

Also learned that you wont necessarily need an fx loop if you run you amp clean..

*s10.postimg.org/41ebfv3u1/image.jpg

Got this amp..Heheh

WOW. Solid state or tube?

Sound sample please.

Sound samples and model ??

Whats the easiest way to upload? Havent done audio uploads to forum

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Nanducob said:
Whats the easiest way to upload? Havent done audio uploads to forum

You can make an account on SoundCloud, upload your audio files there and link here.

Desmond David said:
WOW. Solid state or tube?

Sound sample please.

Oops missed your reply .

Its tube...has a pre and power tubes... Not 100.00 % tube per se for tube purists.

Here ... Just the cleans...the hissing is due to the recording gear

Nandu Nair | Free Listening on SoundClou

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Nanducob said:
Here ... Just the cleans...the hissing is due to the recording gear

Nandu Nair | Free Listening on SoundClou

Can't find anything there.
What's up with posting at 5:18 am !!!

Gen.Libeb said:
Can't find anything there.
What's up with posting at 5:18 am !!!

Lets see...ill fix it..Im behind 12 hrs the IST..its 2:25 am now:sleeping_NF::sleeping_NF:

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Gave a shot at these two songs.

I never told you what I do for a living (My Chemical Romance)

Whisper-(Evanescence)

Happy New Year TDF musicians !!

I hope everyone one is continuing with their instruments..

axes2t2 said:
Happy New Year TDF musicians !!

I hope everyone one is continuing with their instruments..

Happy New Year to you and all others !

Here are some mods that I have done recently to my guitar.
1.Swapped the stock korean floyd rose 1000 for a japanese gotoh (140$)
.
removed the sucker !

*i.imgur.com/l6X5QAc.jpg

*i.imgur.com/blASIDc.jpg

.
2.Swapped the stock bridge pick up for Seymour Duncan JB humbuckers (60$)
and neck for Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates (105$)
.

*i.imgur.com/VaKU9Tc.jpg

custom wiring (65$)

*i.imgur.com/AuwaDUe.jpg

3.All Done

*i.imgur.com/IgYrlRa.jpg

..

Nice work.

Looks great!

Covered the Interstellar main theme recently on Piano. Have a listen here: