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ronweasley Original post #1
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:19 AM
can anyone clarify this myth for me?

"mobile phones are harmful for the human brain"

"cheap mobile phones are EVEN MORE HARMFUL"

"high end mobile phones have features that filter out the harmful ""radiations"" "

frankly speaking. i dont believe in any of the above, but i want a public opinion.

thanks

PS: participate in the poll
Pathik
Pathik #2
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:32 AM
who cares.. I dont mind a few minutes off my life 4 a lifetime of mobility... Btw afaik this research done was proved crap few days ago
Kiran.dks
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Yes. All mobile phones are harmful for human brain due to radiations.
GSM handsets are more harmful than CDMA. GSM mobile release 2 Watts of radio waves which are harmful if exposed for long period. On the other hand CDMA releases 1 Watt, which is less harmful.

The best way to tackle or minimize this is:

*avoid speaking for long period on mobile. Speaking more than a hour in a stretch is very harmful. If at all it is needed, use a handsfree set.

*Don't grasp the mobile in mobile reception area i.e mobile top portion where signals are transmitted & received. Touching those area's increases radiation exposure.

*Use handsets which follow the specifications set for the radiation emission.
R
Jan 11, 2007 at 12:08 PM
what are the rad. emision standards, and how can we know the values for each phone in the market?
Kiran.dks
Jan 11, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Mobile emit Radio waves for receiving & transmitting signals . These radio waves are harmful if exposed for long duration. The exposure increases if the mobile is kept close to brain. These waves damage the cells of human brain causing brain tumour or cancer.

Regarding certification of mobile company, you can refer the catalog/specification booklet given by the manufacturer.
R
Jan 11, 2007 at 12:43 PM
looks like the "taar-wala" phone is the best. right?
Kiran.dks
Jan 11, 2007 at 1:20 PM
ofcourse taarwala phone is always good. But if you wanna mobility, use mobile with handsfree for long duration conversation. No problems at all. You are safe. :)
Pathik
Pathik #8
Jan 11, 2007 at 4:39 PM
wtf.... There ws also a report that if u keep ur cell in ur trouser pocket u ll bcom infertile due to the radiations... Wd u believe all such crap :?
Kiran.dks
Jan 11, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Yes. That is also true! These are not crap. This is a fact and scienfifically proven. Otherwise there was not need to set the Radiation Certification.
DipDaWiz
DipDaWiz #10
Jan 11, 2007 at 5:04 PM
All mobile's radiation depends on their SAR(Specific Absorption Rate) value. and unit for this is W/kg (watts per kilogram). as per FCC (www.fcc.gov/cgb/sar) its safe if this radiation is upto approx. 1.6W/kg. Most new mobiles from SonyEricssion is ~0.86 W/kg that is for Data calls and ~0.68 W/kg when on voice calls. Other mobile companies also mentioned about the SAR for their mobile in their site and also in the manual. You can download your phone model's test result from the FCC site/manufacturer's site.

Now, if FCC is right about their findings (1.6W/kg is safe) we dont have anything to worry. But its radiation that might not good anyway.
Mobile is a very new gadget - hardly couple of decades (12 years in India). and its radiation effect may be seen after many years. Or may be FCC is right and its totally safe and this mobile radiation is negligible to damage our cells. Or may be it depends person to person. So I dont think its a time to say a concrete conclusion on this.
hailgautam
Jan 11, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Yes they have to be harmful, just imagine putting your head in a Microwave. But the intensity is very low and may not harm every one. But finally WHO CARES
Arsenal_Gunners
Jan 11, 2007 at 7:38 PM
pathiks said:
wtf.... There ws also a report that if u keep ur cell in ur trouser pocket u ll bcom infertile due to the radiations... Wd u believe all such crap :?
:shock:
no phones in trouser pocket from now.
K
krazyfrog #13
Jan 11, 2007 at 9:09 PM
I once saw an experiment an a web site in which two scientists put two regular cell phones back to back and between them they kept an egg. Then they called from the first cell to the second and kept the call active between the two phones with the egg between them. After around 50 minutes, the egg was cooked (it looked similar to when you boil it, i.e. its shell could be peeled off and a solid egg was found inside). I don't remember the name of the site. I think it was India technology or something.
iMav
iMav #14
Jan 11, 2007 at 9:12 PM
pathiks said:
wtf.... There ws also a report that if u keep ur cell in ur trouser pocket u ll bcom infertile due to the radiations... Wd u believe all such crap :?
yup i had also read abt this report in the news paper .... it was loooooong back ... i remember coz wen i told 1 of my frenz he stopped using his fone for a month then realised tht life is boring and difficult at times
Pathik
Pathik #15
Jan 11, 2007 at 9:26 PM
arey mobiles bina jeene ka fayda hi kya hai... Let the radiations go to hell..
Kiran.dks
Kiran.dks #16
Jan 11, 2007 at 9:42 PM
I would like to clarify some misconceptions here:

*Using mobile is not a problem- Use it with handsfree for more than a 45min of continous conversation. For normal use 15-20 min conversation, you don't need a handsfree. Without it is also safe.

*Keep the mobile in a side pouch-attached to belt. At that distance, radiation can't do any harm to testis.

Mobile radiations are harmful at close distances(around 10Cm) to the sensitive tissues of our body. At more distance, our outer body tissues can absorb that radiation avoiding it going further into the body.

So, use mobile sensibly and stay happy.
G
gxsaurav #17
Jan 11, 2007 at 10:14 PM
what the.......


i m switching to PCO :D. But it's adviced always to use mobile in less ammount
subratabera
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:07 PM
krazyfrog said:
I once saw an experiment an a web site in which two scientists put two regular cell phones back to back and between them they kept an egg. Then they called from the first cell to the second and kept the call active between the two phones with the egg between them. After around 50 minutes, the egg was cooked (it looked similar to when you boil it, i.e. its shell could be peeled off and a solid egg was found inside). I don't remember the name of the site. I think it was India technology or something.
Is that true???
Pathik
Pathik #19
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:19 PM
good way to save power... Make omelette wit mobiles :))
Arsenal_Gunners
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:31 PM
yeah just put a mobile in your trouser pocket and make an omelet of...;-)
Pathik
Pathik #21
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:45 PM
hey man try to look @ the positive side of things.. Atleast india's populatn can b controlled... :)) btw i told na that research ws proved wrong.. Dont worry yaar..
Arsenal_Gunners
Jan 11, 2007 at 11:57 PM
ok fine but it will be your responsibility if moblie makes some omelets or 'hot dogs' in there.
Kiran.dks
Kiran.dks #23
Jan 12, 2007 at 8:32 AM
pathiks said:
hey man try to look @ the positive side of things.. Atleast india's populatn can b controlled... :)) btw i told na that research ws proved wrong.. Dont worry yaar..

Research was not proved wrong. It's dubious. Common sense says that Radiations are harmful. That is why the need for certification and regulatory authority. Otherwise there was no need to be one.
djmykey
djmykey #24
Jan 12, 2007 at 9:08 AM
Ok if that low radiations do make me infertile till lets say 60 years then I dont care man. Anyways I wont be needing my fertility at that age to be doing anything right! so I just use the damn mobile and dun give a cr@p abt anything.
R
Jan 12, 2007 at 10:58 PM
then the radiation norms must imply to every device that has a radio an an earphone(like personal FM radios). right?

also in areas like aviation etc where the pilots are at constant exposure to various radio frequencies... what about them?
Pathik
Pathik #26
Jan 12, 2007 at 11:36 PM
if that were true almost all men on earth wd be infertile.. And humans wd go extinct.. So stop worrying abt all such crap n njoy life.. :))
Kiran.dks
Kiran.dks #27
Jan 13, 2007 at 7:55 AM
ronweasley said:
then the radiation norms must imply to every device that has a radio an an earphone(like personal FM radios). right?

also in areas like aviation etc where the pilots are at constant exposure to various radio frequencies... what about them?

I am telling you again that radiations are harmful if they are too close to humans inner sensitive tissues. That is why I am saying again & again that using mobile with handsfree is harmless. Radiations get absorbed as they travel into our body. So normally all Radio waves surrounding our body can never reach the inner sensitive cells. It's only when Radio emitters like mobile when bought with in the range of around 10Cm, they can cause harm to our body.

Originally Posted by pathiks
if that were true almost all men on earth wd be infertile.. And humans wd go extinct.. So stop worrying abt all such crap n njoy life..

Ha! Humans extinct? What a thought! That is not that serious 'time-being' becoz of considerable distance between the testis and mobile in pocket. Moreover mobiles are in stand-by mode while in pocket. If you know science, you should be aware that radiations are harmful in long run.
djmykey
djmykey #28
Jan 13, 2007 at 9:06 AM
Just my observation, the word "testis" is not censored :p
Pathik
Pathik #29
Jan 13, 2007 at 9:40 AM
^^ good observation :p
Kiran.dks
Kiran.dks #30
Jan 13, 2007 at 10:49 AM
djmykey said:
Just my observation, the word "testis" is not censored :p

No problems in using that word. That is the most appropriate way. I could have used fu***.... Those are absolutely prohibited! Most of us think discussing such words as some kinda big mstake. That has been the attitude in these parts of world. Even a word like 'SEX' is treated as immoral. Discussing those in a educated way is no problems at all.
iMav
iMav #31
Jan 13, 2007 at 11:50 AM
djmykey said:
Just my observation, the word "testis" is not censored :p
censor board forgot abt them :D
R
Jan 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM
i just didnt expect these answers in a forum of this kind

i'm asking for help, not whatever replies you give

i request you guys to read my two posts above and reply again... i was talking about the BRAIN.....and u guys have gone totally off-topic.

i really wanted to know whether the devices that work with radio waves are harmful(however less) or not. im talking about wifi laptops, fm radioswith EARPHONES, airline communications etc

anyway, thanks to everyone for clearing my doubts on the harm of using radio devices.