Need a Future proof mobile.

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As you all are aware about the launch of 4g,i need something that is future proof, at-least for 3-4 years.
I need a mobile phone which supports 4g and 5g.
The following is what i need with mobile:
Camera with flash light support(5-8megapixel or above will be fine)
HDMI Support
USB on the Go
O/S-Any will do
Budget-20-25k
Brand-Any will do(should not be a Chinese brand)
Please help me in selecting mobile.

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There's no 4G model in India, and

lol

5G doesn't exist.

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5g doesn't exist?have a look:
5G - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
5G Technology - What is 5G technology

You can buy 4G Variants of Motorola Atrix & HTC Sensation from Ebay.in

4G will be Launched tomm. and the tariffs are not affordable(1k for 4 GB) and don't think about 5G

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SahilAr said:
5g doesn't exist?have a look:
5G - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
5G Technology - What is 5G technology

Please read those websites properly first

5G (5th generation mobile networks or 5th generation wireless systems) is a name used in some research papers and projects to denote the next major phase of mobile telecommunications standards beyond the 4G/IMT-Advanced standards effective since 2011. At present, 5G is not a term officially used for any particular specification or in any official document yet made public by telecommunication companies or standardization bodies such as 3GPP, WiMAX Forum, or ITU-R. New standard releases beyond 4G are in progress by standardization bodies, but are at this time not considered as new mobile generations but under the 4G umbrella.

Were a 5G family of standards to be implemented, it would likely be around the year 2020, according to some sources

@SahilAr, there is no such thing as future proof phone... Your 25k range phones available today are already outdated tech...

So, just buy a decent phone and use it for a couple of years before changing it... It is expendable... You won't even get a replacement battery after 2 years of usage...

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@Sarthak,sorry,i didn't went through the whole article,just saw the term "5g" and got exicted

@Androidfan,

You won't even get a replacement battery after 2 years of usage...

couldn't got what you wanted to say..

5G is not gonna arrive soon.
If you want 4G then iphone 4 or 4S is the one to opt for as there are no other 4G phones available in India.
And seriously you gonna use the phone for 3-4yrs coz any high end/multimedia phone don't perform the same after 2yrs, one needs to change it around 2-2.5yrs.
And as said by other members, there is no future proof phone, as these electronic gadgets and technology changes every other day.

SahilAr said:
couldn't got what you wanted to say..

By that he meant that after 2 yrs even spare parts of a phone are hard to find, and the performance decrease and you still want to use that phone for more time then you have to get some parts change as some of the things will stop working or can say the performance will degrade a lot

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@SahilAr he meant that mobiles (or any other tech for that matter) get outdated very fast. You buy great product today and a new model will come out in a few months that will be much better than that. And after a year or two unless you have bought a high-end model it would be blown away by new phones. And the expensive one too won't be comparable with the new ones.

If you want a good device then I can suggest you to get Samsung Note for 30k.
And even Sensation for 22-23k is a good option

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aroraanant said:
5G is not gonna arrive soon.
If you want 4G then iphone 4 or 4S is the one to opt for as there are no other 4G phones available in India.

It's too costly :cry:

and i don't think so 4g is supported by iphone 4s.
is sensation available in India,as one member here told me there is "NO" 4g mobile available in India.
Does galaxy note supports 4g?I think no.

Iphone support 4G and other than that there is no other phone in India which supports 4G.
And even Galaxy Note doesn't support 4G

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@SahilAr You can buy a 4G phone from ebay but they generally work on the frequencies which the carrier provides. So we can't be sure if those phones will work in India or not. And also they come without any warranty, and can't be repaired in India.

But I am wondering why you need a mobile that uses 4G, as 4G will come only in few cities,should say metro cities only and the prices are gonna be huge and it will take a long time to come in other cities and in your place it will take a long time to arrive.
One thing I would like to make it clear that we guys don't even use 3G properly these days, and you thinking for 4G thats strange

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@aroraanant
is the iPhone 4s 4G version available in India ? I couldn't find it on ebay also.

we don't have a proper 3G network,, why the hell you are worry about 4G and 5G.
You are easily going to be very happy with a 3G set for next 2-3 years in India.

sarthak said:
@aroraanant
is the iPhone 4s 4G version available in India ? I couldn't find it on ebay also.

The one available in India as well worldwide is the 4G version.Please correct me if I am wrong

aroraanant said:
5G is not gonna arrive soon.
If you want 4G then iphone 4 or 4S is the one to opt for as there are no other 4G phones available in India.
And seriously you gonna use the phone for 3-4yrs coz any high end/multimedia phone don't perform the same after 2yrs, one needs to change it around 2-2.5yrs.
And as said by other members, there is no future proof phone, as these electronic gadgets and technology changes every other day.

aroraanant said:
Iphone support 4G and other than that there is no other phone in India which supports 4G.
And even Galaxy Note doesn't support 4G

Common misconception.

iPhone 4 or 4s DOES NOT support 4g network. The "4" is the generation of the iPhone, "s" denotes speed in 4s.

@OP, grab an HTC Sensation for 24K or Samsung Galaxy S2 for about 27K. Your choice.

I was googling the same, and on many places it says it supports and at many places it says it don't, I still doubt.

desiJATT said:
The "4" is the generation of the iPhone, "s" denotes speed in 4s.

I know that.

I think when Apple launched iphone 4 they said that it will support 4G

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anant,there is nothing to doubt on that..it's clear 4g is not supported by iphone 4s.
can you give me a link where it is posted that iphone 4s supports 4g network?
Naa,apple ne kabhi nhi kha ki iphone 4s is iphone 4g..i don't believe it!

Please enlighten me with the links where did you find that it supports 4G?
Read this article, will get your facts right

This is why Apple's iPhone 4S doesn't support 4G/LTE - Computerworld Blogs

Also, Apple never said that it's iPhone 4s will support LTE or so called 4G. The only Apple device supporting LTE (4G) is the iPad 3 or the "The new Apple iPad"

@aroraanant

4g = LTE or Dual Cell (DC-)HSDPA

you have to have speeds greater than 40mbps to be called as 4g according to US FCC.

please do not post wrong information. Iphone 4s is 3.5g not 4g

I searched some more and finally got to know that it doesn't support 4G.
Thanks for updating my knowledge.
And sorry for posting wrong info.

@OP Go for Samsung Galaxy SII for 27K, just 2K over your budget, but worth the money spent, and will also prove to be a bit "future proof" as compared to other phones in market. Obviously SIII will make it roll one generation back, but who cares? You get great hardware and good developer support.

And BTW there was a time when AT&T Claims iPhone 4S Is 4G Capable but later they agreed that it wasn’t a very fair denomination and said it was more 3.5G than actual 4G.

aroraanant said:
And BTW there was a time when AT&T Claims iPhone 4S Is 4G Capable but later they agreed that it wasn’t a very fair denomination and said it was more 3.5G than actual 4G.

yes AT&T (and another player joined them soon) claimed 3.5G or 3.75G as LTE. later they corrected the info terming it as something like 3.9G.

@sarthak, forget 4G. by the time it is affordable and widely available your current mobile will be set to retire. grab the best smartphone you can afford and use it.

aroraanant said:
And BTW there was a time when AT&T Claims iPhone 4S Is 4G Capable but later they agreed that it wasn’t a very fair denomination and said it was more 3.5G than actual 4G.

That was a mistake. It didn't stand good against the IMT Advanced standards. As ssk_the_gr8 also said, it should have a minimum speed of 40 mbps and peak upto 1gbps.

But first of all, you need to understand what is 4G and LTE. 4G is a standard given by IMT Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications-Advanced). Companies then showcase their technologies for this standard and they are named 3G, 3.5G, 4G as they satisfy the given conditions in their respective set of rules. AT&T LTE Network did not satisfy the condition of providing peak Down speed of 1Gbps, so they were termed as 3.9G not 4G.

Confusion has been caused by some mobile carriers who have launched products advertised as 4G but which according to some sources are pre-4G versions, commonly referred to as '3.9G', which do not follow the ITU-R defined principles for 4G standards, but today can be called 4G according to ITU-R

This is the "4G" that AT&T was talking about.

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Sam said:
@sarthak, forget 4G. by the time it is affordable and widely available your current mobile will be set to retire. grab the best smartphone you can afford and use it.

I wasn't the one asking for a 4G phone.........

IMO just buy a descent phone (Android or Windows phone) around 15K. Use it for 1-2 years max sell it off and then buy a new one.

IMHO 15K is the sweet spot for purchasing mobile phones and 10-12K for graphics cards

you cant use an iphone for 3-4 years?

sarthak said:
I wasn't the one asking for a 4G phone.........

i was pointing to OP. typo

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Any phone with minimum 5megapixels?
with Hdmi port,usb on the go?
I need suggestions:is 3D recording feature important?wouldn't it be good to have 3D recording feature?can passive 3D monitor display recorded 2D video into 3D?
O/s-Windows or Android which should i choose?
Budget-20k

How come no one is talking about which OS and other specifications should be met?

My suggestions are as follows:-

1. You should be going for Android

or windows.

2. Go for a phone which will have bluetooth v3.0 for good transfer rates.

3. Buy an NFC enabled phone as it is said to be the future. :doublethumb:

4. Go for Samsung brand as it is coming with successful phone models and built quality.

PS- As for your camera, most brands camera gets better according to the price range :-D

SahilAr said:
Any phone with minimum 5megapixels?
with Hdmi port,usb on the go?
I need suggestions:is 3D recording feature important?wouldn't it be good to have 3D recording feature?can passive 3D monitor display recorded 2D video into 3D?
O/s-Windows or Android which should i choose?
Budget-20k

3D is just another buzzword to suck people in. Recommend you not to buy such tech when its not widespread/cheap. AFAIK, only two (major) phones have the dual cameras necessary for 3D video recording: HTC EVO 3D and LG Optimus 3D. Neither of them are worth it.

OS depends on what you need: the ability to tweak to your hearts content, to change the OS to your requirements (Android), or use it as-it-is, for a straightforward experience (WP).

I say go for HTC Sensation (Android), or Nokia Lumia 800 (WP).

NikiNfOuR said:
...
2. Go for a phone which will have bluetooth v3.0 for good transfer rates.

3. Buy an NFC enabled phone as it is said to be the future.

4. Go for Samsung brand as it is coming with successful phone models and built quality.

2. BT 3.0 in itself is no good. 3.0 + HS certification is a must for faster transfer rates.

3. Nokia's pushing NFC like mad, SGS II has it as optional (I think), Sony Xperia S is supposed to have it, and there ends NFC in India :lol:

. The main way NFC was intended to be used (as ID while paying) isn't implemented anywhere (correct me if wrong).

4. While Samsung's build quality is good, and the phones themselves are great, their fickle decision making and attitude towards customers concerns me. Case in point: Samsung Galaxy S was denied ICS (even though its perfectly capable of running it), then promised a value pack, then denied that too, then rolled back and assured the value pack. Not just Samsung, most manufacturers tend to forget you after you buy their phones... :neutral:

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kbar1,what is the concept of NFC enabled handsets also:
The HTC Sensation phone you suggested me has Hdmi port,usb on the go capability?
Can this phone be upgraded to Android ICS?
Leaving 3D,can passive 3D Monitor display normal 1080p 2D video as 3D?(can it convert recorded 2D video to 3D?)

Dude... there is nothing called future proof... one year is the best you get from the top end phones nowadays... in that time, there is always a new phn which can do better and an app or game or tech which is nt supported by the phn u buy... if u want that, wait for the galaxy s3 if u r patient enuff... wud be good for abt 1.5 years....

I had bought my N73 way back in 2007 , it has 3G , still haven't eer used 3G

mitraark said:
I had bought my N73 way back in 2007 , it has 3G , still haven't eer used 3G

Neither would I, if not for the glitch in Idea's network which allows you to pay for 2G packs and get HSDPA... :-D

The "real" 3G packs' rates border on extortion...

SahilAr said:
kbar1,what is the concept of NFC enabled handsets also:
The HTC Sensation phone you suggested me has Hdmi port,usb on the go capability?
Can this phone be upgraded to Android ICS?
Leaving 3D,can passive 3D Monitor display normal 1080p 2D video as 3D?(can it convert recorded 2D video to 3D?)

This Engadget NFC primer will explain better: [engadget.com].

HDMI output is possible. You need a MHL-to-HDMI adaptor. No USB OTG though (Source: [thinkdigit.com]).

Official ICS is coming for the Sensation.

Not so sure about the 3D stuff.

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@Kbar 1,Thanks for the links,they really helped me :wink:

I have gone through HTC site and the phone looks really good,now i have dropped the idea of getting 3D
but i still want a phone with:
budget:20-25K
USB on the go feature(very very important)
HDmi Port
Camera(5Megapixels or above)
Brand:Any
O/S-Android ICS

USB OTG makes things go downhill. One of the few phones to "properly" support it (straightaway, no hacks/mods) is the Samsung Galaxy S II. It fulfills your other hardware requirements too. But then comes the catch: it costs around 28k.

So are you willing to pay 4k more just for USB OTG? Up to you. Sensation or GS II, you'll have a great phone either way.

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Does Galaxy Note supports USB OTG?

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^^

They don't make 'em like that anymore...

SahilAr said:
Does Galaxy Note supports USB OTG?

Yes it does. It's also over your budget by 5-6k. And some think its pushing the definition of a phone a bit too far... :-D

Go for it if you can, its definitely more future proof than the S II (newer + a bit faster CPU).