NEED A GOOD Pc 25-30K

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answering questions:
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:i want to Run all games but it is not necessary at high setting at even low setting but the game should start...,it is for home casually gaming.(prototype 2 pes13)

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:25k can be extended to 30k
3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:yes if neede

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:500gb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:18.5 inch

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:i aleready have a ups

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:2-3 weeks

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:i live in delhi, i am open to buy stuff from online shops

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:i was thinking about:
amd bulldozer 4100 with asus m5a88m motherboard
pls recommend amd because i think intel is costly.

One thing i am in school so use pc mostly for casual gaming not hardcore type i dont get that much time......

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Why do you want to overclock with a moderate budget? You can have a look at other threads. There are innumerable threads for 25-30k range. Please look into those first to get an idea. And you can go for m5a97 instead of m5a88..

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Get these
AMD 3 GHz FM1 A8 3870K Processor-6,500
ASUS F1A55-M LE Motherboard-4,200
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10)-3,300
Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus Mid Tower Cabinet-3,200
Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
DVD Writer-ASUS-1,100
WD Caviar Green 1 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (WD10EARX)-4,000
Total-24k approx

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Vish2a9l said:
Why do you want to overclock with a moderate budget? You can have a look at other threads. There are innumerable threads for 25-30k range. Please look into those first to get an idea. And you can go for m5a97 instead of m5a88..

It is Not necessary to overclock if my pc acts slow then only i may overclock otherwise not....

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Vish2a9l said:
Why do you want to overclock with a moderate budget? You can have a look at other threads. There are innumerable threads for 25-30k range. Please look into those first to get an idea. And you can go for m5a97 instead of m5a88..

i will Overclock ONly if My pc Starts hanging while playing game otherwise not...

Minion said:
Get these
AMD 3 GHz FM1 A8 3870K Processor-6,500
ASUS F1A55-M LE Motherboard-4,200
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10)-3,300
Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus Mid Tower Cabinet-3,200
Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
DVD Writer-ASUS-1,100
WD Caviar Green 1 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (WD10EARX)-4,000
Total-24k approx

hmmm... amd 4100 fx is cheaper i guess.. rs5990
anyways thanks

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The thing is with with fx4100 you have to buy an entry level graphic card to play games.A8 3870k has a strong IGP with the help of which some games can be played well enough.

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How IS this Configuration????
RAm 4 Gb:- RS 935(Trancend)
Motherboard:- Rs 5539 (asus m5a88-m)
Processor- Rs 6367 (AMD 3.6 GHz AM3+ FX4100 Processor)
Graphic card- Rs 1900 (Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 GB DDR3...)
Internal HArd Drive- rs3701 (Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard...)
Dvd - rs1035 (lg)
Cabinet-rs2287 ( cooler master 311 elite)
psu- Suggest me!
fans- rs400 cooler master 120mm
Samsung 18.5 rs6000
TOTAL: 28164 (prices are from flipkart.. are nehru place price cheaper?)

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That graphic card is not that great for gaming.Get atleast an hd5670 or an hd6570ddr3 for some decent level of gaming.Or else stick to the APU(AMD A8).APU will get your money saved and provide you gaming performance that is equivalent or better than hd5450.

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are those card not costly. I have seen reviews where people combined fx 4100 with hd 5450 and all games are working brilliant..... ? (reviews on flipkart)

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hd6670ddr3 is around 4-4.2k.Get one if you are not going for APU.
If not going for APU then get i3 2100(6.5k)+GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H(4.2k)+hd6670ddr3@4k orhd6570ddr3@3.5k.
Else stick to the APU and save money.

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can u please tell me the advantage of apu over fx 4100 bulldozer? i can i buy that graphic card, but can u suggest me a cheaper motherboard without loosing the performance?...

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^^Mate APU has good IGP which is decent enough for entry-level gameplay.Fx4100 has no IGP and in general in most of the tasks it is slower than i3 2100,only in some heavily multi-threaded tasks it is ahead of the i3 2100.Though for daily usage one can't find the difference between the three(s8 3870k,i3 2100,fx4100).
If you have the money then go for i3 2100+ GA-B75M-D3H+ discrete graphic card(atleast hd6570).Or better stick the APU and save money since you are concerned about gaming performance.
For gaming performance i3 2100>fx4100 and more so in lower resolutions.

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i3 is only 2.6 ghz

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First of all clocks don't determine the overall performance,neither the number of physical cores.There are various other factors.
i3 2100 has a clock of 3.1GHz.

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is i3>apu

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In raw performance,yes.That is in single threaded tasks they are ahead.In multi-threaded tasks it depends.But in general i3 2100 has better raw performance than llano APU.
In tasks where GPU acceleration is required like photoshop cs6,gimp etc the A8 3870k will be significantly faster than i3 2100,considering that there is no discrete card in either of the system..
In daily tasks(normal usage) one can't notice the difference between them.
Moral of the story:if you can afford take i3 2100 with a decent entry level GPU or else stick to the APU.

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okay thanks :")

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Intel Pentium G630- Rs 3200
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H - Rs 4300
Corsair Value Ram 8 GB ( single stick) - Rs 2600
GPU - MSI GRAPHIC CARD HD7770 oc'ed
1GB GDDR5 - Rs 8300
SMPS - CORSAIR CX430V2 - Rs 2450
Cabinet - CM 335 - Rs 1600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor- Acer 220HL- Rs 6000
HDD- wd500gb - Rs 3000
Total Rs 32425

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^is the above configuration future proof? intel pentium g630??

well i did a research and found that apu have fm1 which is not future proof right?

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In games like max payne 3 and gta IV which run better on a processor which can handle 4 threads simultaneously will be hampered in case of pentium g630.
From a processor side of things i3 2100 is definitely better with higher clocks and hyper-threading though not worth 3k over the pentium g630.
Otherwise for daily usage it is quite ok.

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SO what is the final configuration i should buy ? which will be good and fututre proof 3-4 years thanks

budget should not exeed 30k...

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3-4 years is a long time & for gaming rule of thumb is buy the costliest graphics card today to avoid regrets later.pentium G630 rig suggested earlier qualifies on this account so get that with one change.get 1*4gb corsair 1333 ram for ~1100 instead of spending 2400 for 8gb which is not necessary for your usages.

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Well, i can change my Graphic card AFter wards, i need a future proof processor and mother board which does not need to be changed .....
when games stops working in the graphic card i will upgrade it but not the processor and the motherboard.....

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in that case get the config suggested by @minion in the 3rd post.a quad core processor is good for 3-4 years & for mobo you can save money by getting Gigabyte A55M-DS2(~3600 on flipkart so local prices will be lower) & 4gb gskill ripjawsX 1600 ram.

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i have heard fm1 is not future proof while i googled that am3+ are future proof???

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there is no such thing as future-proof because nobody knows the future.if you are not going to change your processor & mobo within 3-4 years then it doesn't matter what you buy today.this matters only for those who change processor/mobo on a yearly/2 year basis.

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3-4 years down the line nothing can said about availability of compatible processors for motherboard.Now AM3+ is used by bulldozer and piledriver.
Whether steamroller will use the same socket?Nobody knows.Though rumors say some things but we can't take that into account.The thing is even if you have a good lga1155 based motherboard in 2014 or 2015 and want to upgrade then there might not be any compatible processors available then.Even if they are available they might not be at appropriate prices.There might be better alternatives.
lga1155 and am3+ socket only look good if you in need to upgrade the processor near about a year from now or somewhat like that.

If you want somewhat powerful processor then take i3 2100 or a8 3870k.Even if i3 has 2 less physical cores it still has much better IPC(instuctions per clock),and hyperthreading.In games(with a discrete graphic card) i3 2100>a8 3870k.If you are purchasing a discrete graphic card then go with i3 2100 else a8 3870k.

If you can really wait a bit longer then wait for the arrival of trinity processors in India and get a quad core trinity processor.Again nothing can be said about price and availability now.'
Trinity quad core processors have a good mix of CPU performance and good IGP.

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OKAY i am GOiNg for Apu AMD 3 GHz FM1 A8 3870K Processor as i am not going to change it but tell me one thing will the processor hang wile playing game or will it be with me for 3-4 years?(crash). thanks

.. Please tell me some shops in nehru place where i can buy these parts and assemble them (reliable shop) thanks again

And one more question can be overclocked?

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depends on what games are launched in future.when crysis was launched a few years ago even the most expensive cards of that time struggled at high/ultra setting but today even 3870K can run crysis smoothly at low resolution & medium setting.

all K edition processor can be overclocked.my friend bought 3670K & GIGABYTE GA-A55M DS2 from cost2cost,nehru place at good rates.

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SO here we go:
RAm 4 Gb:- RS 935(Trancend)
Motherboard:- Rs 6390 (ASUS M5A 97 970 processor)
Processor- Rs 6500 (AMD 3 GHz FM1 A8 3870K)
Graphic card- Rs 1900 (Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 GB DDR3...)
Internal HArd Drive- rs3701 (Seagate Barracuda 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard...)
Dvd - rs1035 (lg)
Cabinet-rs2287 ( cooler master 311 elite)
psu- Suggest me!
fans- rs400 cooler master 120mm
Samsung 18.5 rs6000
TOTAL: 29148
<<<<<<<<<<PLEASE SUGGEST ME ANYTHING TO IMPROVE>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think we can lower the cost of the motherboard???

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3870K is FM1 socket processor while asus M5A 97 is AM3+ mobo so not possible.also buy corsair/gskill 1600 ram since amd A series processor works better with 1600 ram than usual 1333 ram.also inbuilt graphics of 3870K is equivalent to 6670 so buying any card less than 6770/7750 is waste of money.

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*www.costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf
Here is no price of the above processor..? which motherboard should i chose ?

*www.costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf
Here is no price of the above processor..? which motherboard should i chose ?

and gpu afterwards coz it already have a good gpu...

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3870k & GIGABYTE A-55M DS2.

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Thanks a TOn bro you helped me alot thanks

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good to know.also ask prices of these parts at computer empire,smc & vipin imports too.also buy corsair psu from PL Computers(one of the only 2 shop in nehru place selling corsair psu).for directions see this:
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-compon...isctrict-center-janak-palace.html#post1769927

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Okay

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