Need a new phone below 20k.

1. Budget: 15 to 20k.
2. Display type and size:1080p(ideally a phone with good display.)
3. Dual sim:Yes.
4. Preferred choice of brand: Samsung,Xiaomi etc
5. What camera option you want:A good rear and front cam.
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS,Stock Android etc).Android.
7. Preferred connectivity options (Dual 4G,802.11AC/5Ghz(not 5g mobile network) wifi).Dual 4G,VoLTE.VoWiFi,ac/Dual Band.
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc): Camera,Internet,Multimedia and a bit of gaming.
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration: Nop
10. Any other info that you want to share

Only Samsung I can think of this price range is M30. Check Mi, Vivo, Oppo etc too.

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meetdilip said:
Only Samsung I can think of this price range is M30. Check Mi, Vivo, Oppo etc too.

M30"s" ?

meetdilip said:
Only Samsung I can think of this price range is M30. Check Mi, Vivo, Oppo etc too.

billubakra said:
M30"s" ?

How about the performance in M30s.
How about pocco X2 or note 8 pro?

TechnoBOY said:
How about the performance in M30s.

Not worth it in 2020 IMO. Poco X2 is better than Note 8 Pro.

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TechnoBOY said:
How about the performance in M30s.
How about pocco X2 or note 8 pro?

It is great given the price to performance terms.

billubakra said:
It is great given the price to performance terms.

Which one?The M30s,pocco or the note 8 pro?

SaiyanGoku said:
Not worth it in 2020 IMO. Poco X2 is better than Note 8 Pro.

How's the miui UI compared to one UI?

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TechnoBOY said:
How's the miui UI compared to one UI?

One UI is dope, miui is crap.

TechnoBOY said:
How's the miui UI compared to one UI?

Personally, I'd flash a custom rom irrespective of the stock OS. As for M30s, I won't pay more than 10k because there are other better phones.

TechnoBOY said:
How's the miui UI

Once you get used to it, MIUI is fine. I had Andriod 10 based MIUI.

You will hate it for a few days as One UI is different.

billubakra said:
One UI is dope, miui is crap.

SaiyanGoku said:
Personally, I'd flash a custom rom irrespective of the stock OS. As for M30s, I won't may more than 10k because there are other better phones.

meetdilip said:
Once you get used to it, MIUI is fine. I had Andriod 10 based MIUI.

You will hate it for a few days as One UI is different.

Coming from oneUI miui feels completely different to me.
What about the ads?Heard that xiaomi shows ads?
I'm thinking of pocco but hows the display compared to AMOLED panels ?
Also what about A51?
Will switching from Samsung be hard?

TechnoBOY said:
Will switching from Samsung be hard?

Try this

Isn't there a switching app from Samsung to Samsung ?

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TechnoBOY said:
Coming from oneUI miui feels completely different to me.
What about the ads?Heard that xiaomi shows ads?
I'm thinking of pocco but hows the display compared to AMOLED panels ?
Also what about A51?
Will switching from Samsung be hard?

Even stock will feel like crap switching from One UI. I'd say stay with the One UI.

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If you want good display then prefer amoled screen. Miui ads can be turned off almost completely by spending 1-2 hours reading & configuring the mobile. Take a look at redmi K20 also.

In my experience Samsung display is good. Xiaomi, not bad. Samsung is superior, that is a fact. But Xiaomi not bad either. Unless you put 2 of them side by side.

Get Poco X2 IMO or Redmi K20 (AMOLED is a treat to look at). Realme XT is also an ok choice, inferior software compared to the other two. I'd rate One UI superior to MIUI, but both have ads. It can be turned to an extent by following some online guides. I think MIUI is a good custom skin, has a lot of features. Realme is still adding some necessary features with its android 10 update & needs further optimization.

Stay away from Oppo & vivo.

M30s performs similar to S660/665, so inferior to RN8P, Poco X2 & K20. A50s/A51 has same SoC as M30s but with better build & some added minor features, those are not worth 20k. If you want Samsung, M30s it is. It trumps others in terms of battery life.
Compare Samsung Galaxy M30s vs. Xiaomi Poco X2 vs. Xiaomi Redmi K20 - GSMArena.com
^^Pick one among these

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anupam_pb said:
Get Poco X2 IMO or Redmi K20 (AMOLED is a treat to look at). Realme XT is also an ok choice, inferior software compared to the other two. I'd rate One UI superior to MIUI, but both have ads. It can be turned to an extent by following some online guides. I think MIUI is a good custom skin, has a lot of features. Realme is still adding some necessary features with its android 10 update & needs further optimization.

Stay away from Oppo & vivo.

M30s performs similar to S660/665, so inferior to RN8P, Poco X2 & K20. A50s/A51 has same SoC as M30s but with better build & some added minor features, those are not worth 20k. If you want Samsung, M30s it is. It trumps others in terms of battery life.
Compare Samsung Galaxy M30s vs. Xiaomi Poco X2 vs. Xiaomi Redmi K20 - GSMArena.com
^^Pick one among these

One UI has ads? Can you post a screenshot?

I have 2 devices with One UI. None of the has any ads.

billubakra said:
One UI has ads? Can you post a screenshot?

meetdilip said:
I have 2 devices with One UI. None of the has any ads.

Yes they do have.The notifications from my galaxy and other apps that recommend you to install some apps.

billubakra said:
Even stock will feel like crap switching from One UI. I'd say stay with the One UI.

meetdilip said:
In my experience Samsung display is good. Xiaomi, not bad. Samsung is superior, that is a fact. But Xiaomi not bad either. Unless you put 2 of them side by side.

anupam_pb said:
Get Poco X2 IMO or Redmi K20 (AMOLED is a treat to look at). Realme XT is also an ok choice, inferior software compared to the other two. I'd rate One UI superior to MIUI, but both have ads. It can be turned to an extent by following some online guides. I think MIUI is a good custom skin, has a lot of features. Realme is still adding some necessary features with its android 10 update & needs further optimization.

Stay away from Oppo & vivo.

M30s performs similar to S660/665, so inferior to RN8P, Poco X2 & K20. A50s/A51 has same SoC as M30s but with better build & some added minor features, those are not worth 20k. If you want Samsung, M30s it is. It trumps others in terms of battery life.
Compare Samsung Galaxy M30s vs. Xiaomi Poco X2 vs. Xiaomi Redmi K20 - GSMArena.com
^^Pick one among these

Im thinking of switching from Samsung.The after sales service of Samsung is pathetic.
So most probably i will choose from poco x2 or K20.
And hows the after sales service of Xiaomi?

TechnoBOY said:
after sales service of Xiaomi?

A lot of local non-official guys are also available. Apart from official service centres. I consider it good enough.

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TechnoBOY said:
Im thinking of switching from Samsung.The after sales service of Samsung is pathetic.
So most probably i will choose from poco x2 or K20.
And hows the after sales service of Xiaomi?

Have you tried shooting a mail to Samsung's ching pang chong's in SK? My friend did and he even got 50% off on bill.

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TechnoBOY said:
Yes they do have.The notifications from my galaxy and other apps that recommend you to install some apps.

Brother Samsung Galaxy Store recommending(can be turned off) apps vs other os's ads have a great difference between them.

billubakra said:
Samsung Galaxy Store recommending(can be turned off) apps

How to ?

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meetdilip said:
How to ?

Check its settings or disable that app as apps can be updated via Playstore too. BTW I don't consider them ads as they are recommendations which Playstore also shows.

billubakra said:
BTW I don't consider them ads as they are recommendations which Playstore also shows.

They are quite annoying when it comes to notifications.

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meetdilip said:
They are quite annoying when it comes to notifications.

Yea because they are getting paid when they forcefully let us install those abcd apps.

I am ok if they simply install them. Galaxy notifications are the loudest and most frequent. Reminds me of ambulence siren.

TechnoBOY said:
Im thinking of switching from Samsung.The after sales service of Samsung is pathetic.
So most probably i will choose from poco x2 or K20.
And hows the after sales service of Xiaomi?

Worse than Samsung. Samsung & maybe Apple have the best after-sales for phones right now.

billubakra said:
One UI has ads? Can you post a screenshot?

They recommend apps here & there. My S8 recommended apps in app like Game Launcher, so stopped using that. Heard its more in cheaper M series phones & Samsung Mall pushes some stuff as well. No info of system ads in places like settings, don't think Samsung will implement that.

This guy made a video, so yeah, some annoying recommendation does happen, but in Xiaomi level. Realme will get to Xiaomi level soon with leaks regd. some system ads other than recommendations.

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@anupam_pb I am using k20 & after configuring various options & settings I don't see any ads in system ui. I do get mi store notification for their apps(can be turned off) but I have only muted them & all I got to do is swipe them & I get them like once a day(sometimes 2 in a day in which 1 is for update of their apps not found on play store but pre-installed like their browser,sms,player apps etc which is of at least some use & hence I have left it on). Other than this I get suggested songs play list notification(again once a day or sometimes 2 but not more than that) from mi player which I actually use to listen to random songs though it can be turned off as well. In short,I find latest miui 11 with my configured settings on k20 completely fine.

whitestar_999 said:
@anupam_pb I am using k20 & after configuring various options & settings I don't see any ads in system ui. I do get mi store notification for their apps(can be turned off) but I have only muted them & all I got to do is swipe them & I get them like once a day(sometimes 2 in a day in which 1 is for update of their apps not found on play store but pre-installed like their browser,sms,player apps etc which is of at least some use & hence I have left it on). Other than this I get suggested songs play list notification(again once a day or sometimes 2 but not more than that) from mi player which I actually use to listen to random songs though it can be turned off as well. In short,I find latest miui 11 with my configured settings on k20 completely fine.

K20 & Poco has lesser "ads" than Redmi Note series, etc. Even RN8 can be configured to significantly lower those recommendations. Since these guides exist, I recommend Xiaomi if it has a good phone for the price.

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meetdilip said:
I am ok if they simply install them. Galaxy notifications are the loudest and most frequent. Reminds me of ambulence siren.

You can disable them and change the tune also

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anupam_pb said:
They recommend apps here & there. My S8 recommended apps in app like Game Launcher, so stopped using that. Heard its more in cheaper M series phones & Samsung Mall pushes some stuff as well. No info of system ads in places like settings, don't think Samsung will implement that.

This guy made a video, so yeah, some annoying recommendation does happen, but in Xiaomi level. Realme will get to Xiaomi level soon with leaks regd. some system ads other than recommendations.

Recommending apps isnt ads. My Galaxy and Samsung store does that. No idea about Game Launcher.
At system level Samsung would never do that.

billubakra said:
You can disable them and change the tune also

Yes, but I had no idea until you told me. I am new to Samsung.

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meetdilip said:
Yes, but I had no idea until you told me. I am new to Samsung.

Check its settings

Now I know. You shared the info yesterday

billubakra said:
Recommending apps isnt ads. My Galaxy and Samsung store does that. No idea about Game Launcher.
At system level Samsung would never do that.

They earn revenue & pushing such notifications is just annoying. Since they are technically advertising an app, it can be considered an ad.

It can be removed almost completely, a bit better than Xiaomi for sure.

Low, mid-level Samsung phones are not good. Samsung sells its best at ₹ 60k. They won't give you that even if you offer 30K.

meetdilip said:
Low, mid-level Samsung phones are not good. Samsung sells its best at ₹ 60k. They won't give you that even if you offer 30K.

Times have changed.

Samsung has much more competitive offers in low to mid-range now than it did earlier (say till 2018). Still, it's not great for sure, but something like Samsung M30S is a great phone for 14k, best in class battery with AMOLED, which Xiaomi lacks, Realme's OLED models are above 15k. A series is not good for sure. New S10 lite & Note10 lite are great devices at 40k as well, good competition to OP7T, even though 7T is still better & cheaper (maybe Note10 lite has a better camera). Main problem with Samsung's old flagships is software support, S9+ & Note9 won't get future updates after android 10, but S10 lite & Note10 lite have android 10 out of the box.

You are right, they are better now. But can't beat Xiaomi. While I think the display is good, M20 I use hangs all the time. After Android 10 update, Google Handwriting Input crashes all the time. 2 months, still no fix from either end.

My phone hanging issue is so severe that it auto called emergency number in between working ok and hanging. Luckily no one attended from the other side. At times when there is an emergency call to be made, phone hangs in between. You can't imagine the frustration.

I personally like miui You can go with x2

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pkkumarcool said:
I personally like miui You can go with x2

poco X2 has a somewhat different camera setup in front which I find distracting even when compared to a notch.

asus' zenfone max pro m2 was a good device,but its been out of stock at flipkart for over a year now,even though max pro m1 is still available-anyone knows the reason behind this?

Has asus stopped manufacturing this phone or something?

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quicky008 said:
asus' zenfone max pro m2 was a good device,but its been out of stock at flipkart for over a year now,even though max pro m1 is still available-anyone knows the reason behind this?

Has asus stopped manufacturing this phone or something?

Yes,it had some manufacturing quality issue as per online comments so asus stopped further production of this model.