Need Cofiguration For Cyber Cafe

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Cilus said:

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Edited Cilus..Thnx

intel g630 (3300)
H61M-P20 G3 (2600)
corsair value select 2 GB ram (800)
and iball + zebronics cabinet with psu (1100)
Logitech mk200 KB & mouse combo (700)
Acer P186H 18.5" (4900)
WD 500 GB hdd (3500) (I know 500 GB for a cyber cafe is too much, but the price difference between lower capacity and this one is negligible)

total: 16900

Intel G530 @ 2.2K
Asusd P8H61-M LX @ 2.8K
Corsair Value Series 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.3K
Samsung_Seagate 250 GB SATA HDD @ 2.6K
Intex/Frontec/Zebronics Cabinet with 400W SPMS @ 1K
LG 22X SATA DVD RW @ 0.9K
BenQ 16" LED (1366X768) @ 4K
Zebronics Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.35K
Intex/Frontec/Tech-COM 600VA UPS @ 1.4K

Total: 16.55K. Now if you're buying 10 of 'em, obvioulsy you are going to get some discounts.

AFAIK OPD'S are not used in every comp in a cafe.....

so better get g645 processor in cilus's config...

There is no need for the extra performance from the g645. The G530 is sufficient and its quite cheaper keeping in mind the overall system budget.

The mobo suggested by Cilius has the option to boot from usb, so the OPD can be skipped. This is unless there is some other specific need for the OPD.

Guys, my Name is CILUS, not Cilius. Myth and Draco21, in every post you mention my name wrongly. Next time If I see any Cilius, I am gonna ban you both.

Cilus said:

Guys, my Name is CILUS, not Cilius. Myth and Draco21, in every post you mention my name wrongly. Next time If I see any Cilius, I am gonna ban you both.

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So sorry. I know its Cilus, but for some reason, while typing, an 'i' follows the 'l'. Will try to make a serious note of this.

What a Harsh Decision??

Sainatarajan said:

What a Harsh Decision??

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yeah. poor innocent members banned for a petty typo by the wicked mod

Sorry....you must be feeling offended....
will take extreme care of it hence......

Myth said:

yeah. poor innocent members banned for a petty typo by the wicked mod

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Cilus said:

Intel G530 @ 2.2K
Asusd P8H61-M LX @ 2.8K
Corsair Value Series 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.3K
Samsung_Seagate 250 GB SATA HDD @ 2.6K
Intex/Frontec/Zebronics Cabinet with 400W SPMS @ 1K
LG 22X SATA DVD RW @ 0.9K
BenQ 16" LED (1366X768) @ 4K
Zebronics Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.35K
Intex/Frontec/Tech-COM 600VA UPS @ 1.4K

Total: 16.55K. Now if you're buying 10 of 'em, obvioulsy you are going to get some discounts.

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As the OP is buying 10 piece of same component at one time, we will get discount and I would suggest: Seagate 500GB Blue @3.2K instead of Seagate 250GB HDD.
Again, only if he is actually going to buy 10PCs at a time.

Cilus said:

Guys, my Name is CILUS, not Cilius. Myth and Draco21, in every post you mention my name wrongly. Next time If I see any Cilius, I am gonna ban you both.

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Cilus said:

Guys, my Name is CILUS, not Cilius. Myth and Draco21, in every post you mention my name wrongly. Next time If I see any Cilius, I am gonna ban you both.

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CAn't stop rofling here!
Cilus
Misuse of Power

Cilus said:

Guys, my Name is CILUS, not Cilius. Myth and Draco21, in every post you mention my name wrongly. Next time If I see any Cilius, I am gonna ban you both.

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Hahahaha

How to become a moderator? Any guide please

Cilus said:

Intel G530 @ 2.2K
Asusd P8H61-M LX @ 2.8K
Corsair Value Series 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.3K
Samsung_Seagate 250 GB SATA HDD @ 2.6K
Intex/Frontec/Zebronics Cabinet with 400W SPMS @ 1K
LG 22X SATA DVD RW @ 0.9K
BenQ 16" LED (1366X768) @ 4K
Zebronics Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.35K
Intex/Frontec/Tech-COM 600VA UPS @ 1.4K

Total: 16.55K. Now if you're buying 10 of 'em, obvioulsy you are going to get some discounts.

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what if i use Amd processor instead of intel...
and 2 gb ram..
and 160 gb HDD of western digital..
eliminate the dvd rw
and go for a decent smps
@cilus

All intel dual cores are better than amd dual cores afaik....

also a cheap psu will do well as no gpu is involved..

Currently only AMD Dual Core Processor available is Athlon II X2 260 which is around 2.8K. It consumes more power and also performs lesser than G530. So there is no point of getting it. Regarding 160GB HDD, I found the price difference between 160GB and 250G are really very low and it is worth to spend extra bucks to get 250GB.

But you must realise that even if the diff. is 200 rs. if you buy 10 it is 2k which is not too bad for saving....

But you must realise that even if the diff. is 200 rs. if you buy 10 it is 2k which is not too bad for saving....

Still a 250GB HDD is a better option.
And yes dont get those ODDs. Get only one ext. DVD-RW for any type of use. That will come handy when any user wants to read some of his/her data from a CD/DVD.

about Smps ??

draco21 said:

actually titan would be a very nice gpu but i doubt about it's cost (afraid it will cost too much)..... also most probably many cards wont be made as gtx 780 comes into play later this year...

7950/7970 should do quite well....

Btw titan releases this feb 18 afaik...

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Paper launch

Opps i actually posted in wrong thread....

sorry ppl...

about spms. generic would do but if you want nice one, antec bp300 or crosair cx430 according to your budget...

saswat23 said:

And yes dont get those ODDs. Get only one ext. DVD-RW for any type of use. That will come handy when any user wants to read some of his/her data from a CD/DVD.

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good idea..that can save some money for him.

TechnoHolic said:

good idea..that can save some money for him.

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Nope, external odds are very fragile, if he uses it too much it will get borked, rather get one or two ODDS in one master machine, and then remotely burn the user files, a lot of cyber cafe's do that.

tkin said:

Nope, external odds are very fragile, if he uses it too much it will get borked, rather get one or two ODDS in one master machine, and then remotely burn the user files, a lot of cyber cafe's do that.

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i'm gonna do this....thnx for sugg.

logout20 said:

i'm gonna do this....thnx for sugg.

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Yeah, also note, buy Asus drives, they come with one year warranty are the most reliable drives I had ever used, they will bork in a year or so if you use them too much, like all other drives, just replace them after a year, 1k per drive, for two drives that comes to about 100/- per month, doable, do not buy LG drives ever.

Second, charge for data download, here the first 25MB data download is free(softwares only, browsing is not counted), then they charge extra.

tkin said:

Yeah, also note, buy Asus drives, they come with one year warranty are the most reliable drives I had ever used, they will bork in a year or so if you use them too much, like all other drives, just replace them after a year, 1k per drive, for two drives that comes to about 100/- per month, doable, do not buy LG drives ever.

Second, charge for data download, here the first 25MB data download is free(softwares only, browsing is not counted), then they charge extra.

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thnx man...my dealer almost succeed in making fool of me......

i'm also going with your second sugg...
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config

Intel G530 @ 2.2K
Asusd P8H61-M LX @ 2.8K
Corsair Value Series 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.3K
Samsung_Seagate 250 GB SATA HDD @ 2.6K
Cabinet with {SMPS antec bp300 @ 2k} @ ??
BenQ 16" LED (1366X768) @ 4K or Acer P186H 18.5" (4900)
Zebronics Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.35K
Intex/Frontec/Tech-COM 600VA UPS @ 1.4K


= 17550 without cabinet....

i dont understand one thing whenever i go to any dealer in my city he /she says "aap pentium 4 le lo mast chalega"......some of them dont even know that corsair manufacture smps/psu "corsair ka psu ???? bhaiya corsair ka ram aata hai "..when i asked one of them about 1200 w smps "bhaiya 1200 watt ?? itne me to c.p.u jal ke rakh ho jayga"
..."aap ek kam karo ..amd ka 7970 wala 2gb ka graphic card lagao aur pentium 4 lelo..mast chalega"...

^^ Perfect, now keep these and in future after a few years when you had recovered the cost or have a steady income stream you may put a low end GPU in a few of them like 6450 etc and charge 30/- per hour for gaming, only if its popular at your place, here there is a steady stream of kids lining up to play CS or GTA in the cyber cafes.

logout20 said:

i dont understand one thing whenever i go to any dealer in my city he /she says "aap pentium 4 le lo mast chalega"......some of them dont even know that corsair manufacture smps/psu "corsair ka psu ???? bhaiya corsair ka ram aata hai "..when i asked one of them about 1200 w smps "bhaiya 1200 watt ?? itne me to c.p.u jal ke rakh ho jayga"
..."aap ek kam karo ..amd ka 7970 wala 2gb ka graphic card lagao aur pentium 4 lelo..mast chalega"...

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WTF charging for data downloads???

here i would go to cafe download songs and videos and all but if ppl started charging, guess no more songs for me....

just telling about my area...

there are seperate gaming and browsing pc's . On gaming pc's u can't browse net and on browsing pc's no games....

gaming pc's have games like ninja blade, prototype,prototype 2 ,ac revelations, cs source,fifa 13 and likes.... config. is c2d processor with 9600 or 9800 gpu. charges rs.10 per hour...

browsing pc's have nothing in hardware just a c2d processor. They contain softwares like c and photoshop.... charges rs. 15 per hr. 10 for half....



backup is provided by a single inverter(yes there is one) so it means buisness even on total power cut days(frequent around here esp. during summer). Provides other facilities like color printing, lamination,spiral binding,xerox etc.Also sells games and anti virus....

so my point is dont just keep computers in your cafe... Load up some softwares and provide other services to make real profit.Add a good quality printer with low cost per page value, add a xerox machine if there is demand for xerox in your area,add a cold drink refrigarator in your cafe,add services like booking railway tickets and mobile recharging,believe me you wont regret such an investment.

anyways it is just a piece of free advice take it or leave it.....

^^
Looks like someone spends a lot of time in cafes


Wouldnt it be cheaper to purchase a single large ups for all systems instead of purchasing one for each individually ?

Or even a single UPS can power up two PCs.
You just need 5-6 mins to just shut down a PC. So, a single UPS should be enough for two PCs.

GIGABYTE GA-E350N (Rs 4000 for cpu and board)
AMD E-Series E-350 - EME350GBB22GT
18w power cunsumption so it will save your electricity bill

But it is very weak for Processing and if you open couple of Tabs in Firefox 19 with lots of heavy Contents, it will slow down.

draco21 said:

WTF charging for data downloads???

here i would go to cafe download songs and videos and all but if ppl started charging, guess no more songs for me....

just telling about my area...

there are seperate gaming and browsing pc's . On gaming pc's u can't browse net and on browsing pc's no games....

gaming pc's have games like ninja blade, prototype,prototype 2 ,ac revelations, cs source,fifa 13 and likes.... config. is c2d processor with 9600 or 9800 gpu. charges rs.10 per hour...

browsing pc's have nothing in hardware just a c2d processor. They contain softwares like c and photoshop.... charges rs. 15 per hr. 10 for half....



backup is provided by a single inverter(yes there is one) so it means buisness even on total power cut days(frequent around here esp. during summer). Provides other facilities like color printing, lamination,spiral binding,xerox etc.Also sells games and anti virus....

so my point is dont just keep computers in your cafe... Load up some softwares and provide other services to make real profit.Add a good quality printer with low cost per page value, add a xerox machine if there is demand for xerox in your area,add a cold drink refrigarator in your cafe,add services like booking railway tickets and mobile recharging,believe me you wont regret such an investment.

anyways it is just a piece of free advice take it or leave it.....

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i'll take it all.....5 system for browsing and 5 for gaming.but you can browse on any system.but i've no idea about "good quality printer with low cost per page value" and that inverter thing.....more info???

saswat23 said:

Or even a single UPS can power up two PCs.
You just need 5-6 mins to just shut down a PC. So, a single UPS should be enough for two PCs.

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Thnx thnx for saving my money....

Cilus said:

But it is very weak for Processing and if you open couple of Tabs in Firefox 19 with lots of heavy Contents, it will slow down.

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AnandTech - Bench - CPU

not as slow as it looks as many cafe owners use slower clocked p4
though you can't game on it but still enough for google chrome's multiple tabs
or other solutions like this can do (onboard cpu)
it will save energy, less cooling required, itx size so less space required, any generic psu can handle it very easily, one 1k ups can handle 10 machines like this for long enough etc............

i am going with intelg530 = Intel Celeron G530 Sandy Bridge 2.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor + 3 Years Warranty = 3000 + getting it locally .

You know if you buy an inverter then you wont need any ups and get backup for much longer....(4-6 hours)

Tell you what, i will find out about the inverter and printer and post them next time i go there...

i want to open a cafe

plz help me.i wanna open a cyber cafe in my town sheikhpura,bihar.i don't know much about it,but it seems to be good business. plz help me regarding licences from where i could get it or configuration of pcs and anything u know? plz i am waiting for ur kind response

Re: i want to open a cafe

raviabhishek said:

plz help me.i wanna open a cyber cafe in my town sheikhpura,bihar.i don't know much about it,but it seems to be good business. plz help me regarding licences from where i could get it or configuration of pcs and anything u know? plz i am waiting for ur kind response

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config

Intel G530 @ 2.2K
Asusd P8H61-M LX @ 2.8K
Corsair Value Series 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.3K
Samsung_Seagate 250 GB SATA HDD @ 2.6K
Cabinet with {SMPS antec bp300 @ 2k} @ ??
BenQ 16" LED (1366X768) @ 4K or Acer P186H 18.5" (4900)
Zebronics Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.35K
Intex/Frontec/Tech-COM 600VA UPS @ 1.4K


= 17550 without cabinet....

my brother is running a cyber cafe...licence is not required registration is required...contact a lawyer for that.he will do it...thats it..atleast thats what i did....

You dont necessarily need a good PSU .. I think for such low end tasks a normal cheap company SMPS will do (just make sure its not "cheapest" in the cheap category, if you know what i mean)

the above config is very well suited just dont buy individual UPSs. Buy one inverter for all PCs.
and draco21 has pointed out very good business plan for you go according to that.

And keep one PC with two DVD RW drives which will serve you as master PC. Definitely keep a printer+scanner or buy the combo ones which comes as low as Rs. 5000 these days.


And don't forget about Win 7/8 lincences. That will also cost.

avinandan012 said:

the above config is very well suited just dont buy individual UPSs. Buy one inverter for all PCs.
and draco21 has pointed out very good business plan for you go according to that.

And keep one PC with two DVD RW drives which will serve you as master PC. Definitely keep a printer+scanner or buy the combo ones which comes as low as Rs. 5000 these days.


And don't forget about Win 7/8 lincences. That will also cost.

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well my brother's cyber cafe is started now...1 ups for two pc..a zebronics smps....a fax,scan,printer,copy machine...running well..