need GPU and PSU for 13000rs

Get GTX 560 @ 10k, and Corsair CX500 v2 .

Just my opinion. nVIDIA has stable drivers for 3D, CAD etc and it works better than AMD.

If you're going for AMD - Look no other than HD 6850 @ 9.5K . AMD 7xxx series doesn't have edge over HD 6850 at that price.

i also thought about the 6850 thn i read smwhere amd is not good for 3d application hmmm

if gaming is not priority go for a quadro series card from nvidia

well its 50:50 for gaming and 3d application.. btw how about a corsair 600 gs series psu? for 4390?

^^Unlike Games most 3d apps utilize cpu more than gpu.
Or in simple words you will be more benefited by investing in better quad core cpu like. i5 2500k rather than gpu .
However for games good Gpu is must.

I myself am a 3d designer...my amd phenom ii x4 handles apps like 3dsmax and maya very well without gpu although i have dedicated two way sli rig for gaming. For heavy scene rendering Gpu provides bit more horse power.

^GPU is also a MUST for rendering purposes.

^its not must>>go try! I do it everyday

Unless you are working on another Avatar 3D project

Well I don't, but my own bros does, and I am watching him from 5 years.

Sujeet said:

^its not must>>go try! I do it everyday

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I don't know what you are doing but rendering isn't possible without a gpu.
Cpu doesn't render. I think you need to double check on what you really do.
Your post is misleading in the context of this thread.

Sujeet is right. You need a fast GPU for running Viewports to be precise (especially high-polygons). While working in the software, you need a fast multi-core CPU. For what we users call "rendering" - it is mostly run off CPU. If you have used 3ds Max/Maya, you know this very well. For GPU renders, you need special plugins.

Lol Atleast you should know that Todays processors are capable of powerful enough to make games like Crysis Run decently without GPU!!
READ I7 EXTREME EDITION

Sujeet said:

Lol Atleast you should know that Todays processors are capable of powerful enough to make games like Crysis Run decently without GPU!!
READ I7 EXTREME EDITION

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Now this is weird.

@vickybat dont wanna induldge in another flamewar but i am sure of what i do.
GO check your books

ico said:

Now this is weird.

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not at max. lol

at lowest.

just giving eg of capability of modern cpu.\
Get my point

Although its a bit kind of OT but I have seen recommendation of normal GPUs over professional GPUs (quadros & firepro) for 3d purposes. I always ask my bro a reason for this and he always says normal cards can't match these professional cards anyday. He is working in that industry since 5 years. Still no one recommends them.

Render is the final product you get - getting there is what is more CPU intensive. Viewport/models is what you are seeing now. That's through the GPU.

Guys stop arguing nd flooding this thread.. well does anybody care to answer my question
i dnt have a i7 processor nd i really need.a gpu for viewport render .. cause directx shader wont render in my pc. nd there r many software tht need a gpu to
work propely .. like mari or marmoste toolbag .. plz suggest a gud gpu nd psu

deadcode00 said:

hi i need a GPU and PSU and my budget is 13000rs i'm really confused over amd and nvidia atm.. i'm a 3d artist and i love to play game aswell, i heard that amd gpu are not that gud for 3d application... plz solve my dilemma
my pc specification...
mobo-asus p5gc-mx
cpu-core 2 duo e6600@2.4ghz
ram-zion 4 gb ddr2

i know my pc is getting old now but plz suggest best possible gpu and psu for my budget...

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ashis_lakra said:

Get GTX 560 @ 10k, and Corsair CX500 v2 .

Just my opinion. nVIDIA has stable drivers for 3D, CAD etc and it works better than AMD.

If you're going for AMD - Look no other than HD 6850 @ 9.5K . AMD 7xxx series doesn't have edge over HD 6850 at that price.

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Strictly AMD Radeon. NO to nVidia "Fermi" GTX.

I have posted about this more than a thousand times regarding nVidia "Fermi" GTX drivers being crippled for 3ds max/Maya Viewports.

Polycount Forum - View Single Post - Slow viewports In Maya with new nvidia card !

Polycount Forum - View Single Post - Slow viewports In Maya with new nvidia card !

HD 6950 is 10 times faster than GTX 560 Ti in Viewports.

deadcode00 said:

Guys stop arguing nd flooding this thread.. well does anybody care to answer my question
i dnt have a i7 processor nd i really need.a gpu for viewport render .. cause directx shader wont render in my pc. nd there r many software tht need a gpu to
work propely .. like mari or marmoste toolbag .. plz suggest a gud gpu nd psu

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Answered your question above.

HD 6850 + Corsair GS600. nVidia "Fermi" GTX series will be 7-8 times slow in Viewports.

ico said:

Strictly AMD Radeon. NO to nVidia "Fermi" GTX.

I have posted about this more than a thousand times regarding nVidia "Fermi" GTX drivers being crippled for 3ds max/Maya Viewports.

Polycount Forum - View Single Post - Slow viewports In Maya with new nvidia card !

Polycount Forum - View Single Post - Slow viewports In Maya with new nvidia card !

HD 6950 is 10 times faster than GTX 560 Ti in Viewports.

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If only would have read it earlier..now my rendering rig runs on gtx560(non ti)

I use maya for character designs and later import them to UDK fro 3d experimentation.
Before the April release(dont remember correctly) of UDK view ports didn't featured default animated clouds and land so my 965 worked well...later due to latest release of UDK i have to put in GPU to deal with real time rendering of clouds of in view ports(2+2)

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thanks ico for ur suggestion... so amd 6850 nd corsair600 gs luks gud..
any more suggestion guys?

there are plugins for 3ds max and maya which will render thru the gpu only....but not used as much as people in this forum make it out to be.

one generalize that render is a cpu intensive process in vanilla state - it is true for maya,3ds max and blender.

+1 for hd 6850 from me too....much faster in viewports.

just wait for some time, till the nvidia 600 series are launched, which will b very soon. Nvidia might launch a better, more future proof GPU for 9-10k.

@ everybody

I really take back my words from post # 10 as they are misleading. Rendering is primarily done by the cpu whereas after effects and additional textures require a gpu. Ray-tracing is a fine example of cpu rendering.

Found out that 3D Max, Maya, Lightwave, Blender are all heavily cpu dependent. Rendering can utilize the parallel architecture of a gpu to boost up but its not in the above cases as they are cpu bound.

@ ico

Thanks for clearing it mate. One more thing, you meant rendering polygons i.e rendering something in the 3d space will require a gpu right??

@ deadcode00

Go through this thread mate.

The gpu will only help you mostly in gaming here. I think the best conclusion i could get was that the cpu gives a more generic approach whereas the gpu is more specific to certain usage ( 3d rendering). With gpgpu computing on the rise, the days not far when we see softwares making proper use of a gpu in rendering.

yes i totally agree tht rendering is more cpu intensive.. but as i say we need gpu for view-port rendering as well as for few shaders that couldnt render without a gpu... nd again i also need a gpu for gaming as well .. so please suggest me best possible gpu and <<<<- PSU ->>>> .. thanks

^^ Well speaking only in terms of gaming, get a radeon 7770 and corsair GS 500. Its has a more promising architecture for future games and performs almost similarly as a 6850. I particularly found it from benches performing better in new dx11 titles. With further driver support, expect it to perform better in newer titles.

Besides, its got a far superior compute power making it lean more towards gpgpu computing. Its consumes even lesser power making it an ideal buy imo.

Check the following links:

Crysis 2

Battlefield 3

Elder scrolls V skyrim

Dirt 3

Luxmark2.0

I want you to see the luxmark2.0 benchmark because its a gpu based renderer that uses opencl. Just look at the compute power of 7770. You might need it someday with your type of work.

is it better than 6850?
edited :- hmmm let me check your link first...
edited: bit more confused now.. if i go for HD 7770 for 8500rs @primeabgb.. i can get a seasonicS12II 620 watt for 4500 it would come handy if i upgrade in near future, total 13000 rs ... still 6850 luks betta if i see the allround performance

^^ Might seem better now but amd will optimize drivers to make good use of GCN architecture and use of newer api's like dx11 works better for 7 series now. Don't look at performance of older titles and choose.

Particularly look at the crysis 2 scores- in dx9 mode 6850 wins handsdown but switch to dx11 and watch the tables turn. Besides 7770 overclocks really well and that gigabyte model you saw at prime has a really good cooler. Besides have a look at the compute power and see if you ever need that in your work because 7770 demolishes 6850 here.

Else you can go for msi 6850 power edition/oc @ 8.6k from smc. Its a factory overclocked 6850 and performs close to a 6870.
That seasonic 620 is a terrific psu and can handle 7770 crossfire easily.

your advice is really gud vicky.. so i will have to choose from 6850 or 7770 and corsair gs 600w or seasonic 620w...

^^ Thanks mate.

Seasonic 620w should be the psu to get if it falls in your budget and considering future upgrades. Its a superior psu than Corsair GS600 and is equivalent to a corsair TX650.

actually my problem is i wont going to get seasonic psu locally and i'm really concerned buying a smps online ... i could easily get corsair tho...

^^ Then GS 600. Its a good psu.