Need help for new PC on 4th may....

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I already posted a thread named desktop for 3d modelling and i got some good configs. Now as i am going to buy my PC on 4th may, plz help me Select config.
My budget is 40k and i can extnd it to a maximum of 50k. My basic purpose is 3d modelling. I want everything included in config from UPS to speakers.
The config i selected (as cilus told me) is

Processor: Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 7.7k
Mobo: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k
Ram: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.5k
HDD: Seagate 1 TB @ 3.9k
DVD Writer: LG SATA @ 1.2k
Cabinet: Zebronics Reaper @ 2k
PSU: Gigabyte 550W @ 3.7k
Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k
GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k
Keyboard&Mouse: 0.5k (generic)

Plz tell me the latest rates, and plz also tell me if it is worth to spend 5k extra for HD5850 than HD5770, i am very short on budget. also suggest me some good 2.1 channel speakers.

ani1751 said:
I already posted a thread named desktop for 3d modelling and i got some good configs. Now as i am going to buy my PC on 4th may, plz help me Select config.
My budget is 40k and i can extnd it to a maximum of 50k. My basic purpose is 3d modelling. I want everything included in config from UPS to speakers.
The config i selected (as cilus told me) is

Processor: Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 7.7k

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Are u fixed with this proccy? Then go to AMD site and see the recommended board for it.

*products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUD...3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=&f11=&f12=&f13=

Mine is M4A78T-E

Ram: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.5k

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OK

HDD: Seagate 1 TB @ 3.9k

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OK

DVD Writer: LG SATA @ 1.2k

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OK

Cabinet: Zebronics Reaper @ 2k

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Remember for any case fans must be put like this:
Inlet Fans: Front and side panel
Exhaust Fans: Back Panel And top(if provision is there)

PSU: Gigabyte 550W @ 3.7k

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I think for 3.7 you will get more better PSU

Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k

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Always go for Dell

GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k

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No idea, but if u use a gpu your psu should be more powerful. Use a psu calculator.

Keyboard&Mouse: 0.5k (generic)

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Plz tell me the latest rates, and plz also tell me if it is worth to spend 5k extra for HD5850 than HD5770, i am very short on budget. also suggest me some good 2.1 channel speakers.

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for rates you may visit this site to have a rough idea:
*www.deltapage.com/

and always take APC ups. you may require a 650va home ups.
*www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE650Y%2DIN&total_watts=200

ani1751 said:
I already posted a thread named desktop for 3d modelling and i got some good configs. Now as i am going to buy my PC on 4th may, plz help me Select config.
My budget is 40k and i can extnd it to a maximum of 50k. My basic purpose is 3d modelling. I want everything included in config from UPS to speakers.
The config i selected (as cilus told me) is

Processor: Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 7.7k
Mobo: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k
Ram: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.5k
HDD: Seagate 1 TB @ 3.9k
DVD Writer: LG SATA @ 1.2k
Cabinet: Zebronics Reaper @ 2k
PSU: Gigabyte 550W @ 3.7k
Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k
GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k
Keyboard&Mouse: 0.5k (generic)

Plz tell me the latest rates, and plz also tell me if it is worth to spend 5k extra for HD5850 than HD5770, i am very short on budget. also suggest me some good 2.1 channel speakers.

for 50k, you getting an i5.

Processor: Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 7.7k ---> i5 750.
Mobo: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k ---> Intel DP55WB (if u not into OC & all)
Ram: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.5k ---> 4Gb will be better.
HDD: Seagate 1 TB @ 3.9k
DVD Writer: LG SATA @ 1.2k
Cabinet: Zebronics Reaper @ 2k ---> will cost less excluding PSU.
PSU: Gigabyte 550W @ 3.7k ---> Corsair VX450W, easy availability.
Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k --->7.5k.
GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k ---> HD5770, MSI HAWX Edition.
Keyboard&Mouse: 0.5k (generic)

how is it? total will be: ~50k. maybe 1k less or more.

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ani1751 said:
I already posted a thread named desktop for 3d modelling and i got some good configs. Now as i am going to buy my PC on 4th may, plz help me Select config.
My budget is 40k and i can extnd it to a maximum of 50k. My basic purpose is 3d modelling. I want everything included in config from UPS to speakers.
The config i selected (as cilus told me) is

Processor: Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 7.7k
Mobo: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k
Ram: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.5k
HDD: Seagate 1 TB @ 3.9k
DVD Writer: LG SATA @ 1.2k
Cabinet: Zebronics Reaper @ 2k
PSU: Gigabyte 550W @ 3.7k
Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k
GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k
Keyboard&Mouse: 0.5k (generic)

Plz tell me the latest rates, and plz also tell me if it is worth to spend 5k extra for HD5850 than HD5770, i am very short on budget. also suggest me some good 2.1 channel speakers.

Buy lg monitor it will give more brightnesss but benq has long warranty so u should should decide..........
u should visit naaptol.com the price are 500 rs higher in some products

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Is core i5 750 with HD5770 is better, or amd phenom x4 955 BE with HD5850, or shall i go for phenom x4 with HD5770 for VFM.

Plz suggest

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whats your main use of pc? do you game? where is ups on the list?and for 3d modeling you should look for square type monitors .

In gaming point of view, Phenom II 955 and HD 5850 is always better than Core i5 750 + HD 5770. I think the Phenom II + 5850 combination will yield better result in 3D application because a lot of applications like 3D mark vantage, it has scored better result. You can verify it in guru3d reviews.
2ndly as Sam suggested go for 4 GB RAM if your budget permits. Look for the Kingston Rams. Their price is 2.7k, last time I checked in Kolkata (Shop Name: Suntronic , beside Vedant).

Core i5 750 based mobo is also very good choice.

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I am not a hardcore gamer, just a casual gamer......and now i am enough confused.....square monitor, i5 or amd, HD5770 or 5850...????

Help me, dont screw it up.....

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^ lol no one is screwing you, in that case hd5770 is more than enough and for your purpose amd is vfm, get minimum 4gb ram, and regarding ups get apc 650va one.

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than i think DONE.....
Amd phenom x4 955 ~ 7.7k
4GB ram ~ 4.5k
HD5770 ~ 8k
Benq or samsung moniter ~9.5k
cabinet + PSU ~ 5k
HDD 500gb ~ 2.5k
speakers ~ 1.1k
UPS ~ 2.5k
cd drive ~ 1.1k

its all around 42k

I think i should fianalize this.....

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4 GB Ram will cost you 5.2k
HD 5770 is priced at 9.6k, not 8k

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****, 2.5k more......

is this config good now.....~!~

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ani1751 said:
than i think DONE.....
Amd phenom x4 955 ~ 7.7k
4GB ram ~ 4.5k
HD5770 ~ 8k
Benq or samsung moniter ~9.5k
cabinet + PSU ~ 5k
HDD 500gb ~ 2.5k
speakers ~ 1.1k
UPS ~ 2.5k
cd drive ~ 1.1k

its all around 42k

I think i should fianalize this.....

i g

ups may be little more costlier, and please get for yourself Corsair vx450w psu minimum.

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ani1751 said:
****, 2.5k more......

is this config good now.....~!~

yep well balanced.

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Okay... I will go for corsair vx450.................thanks...

If u r buying this for 3d Work then don't go for Gaming card...Go for professionals Cards like..

Quadro series in Nvidia or Fire series in ATI

^^10 out of 10
very few know this fact

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piyush120290 said:
^^10 out of 10
very few know this fact

yep you may be right, he ain't a pro afaik, and his budget should suffice for that and on the contrary he can't play games on pro card.

Depends what all 3D applications (DEV) he will employ...! Which ones though...?

azaad_shri75 said:
ups may be little more costlier, and please get for yourself Corsair vx450w psu minimum.

with every single post, OP's config's final cost increasing :smile:

azaad_shri75 said:
yep you may be right, he ain't a pro afaik, and his budget should suffice for that and on the contrary he can't play games on pro card.

won't game run on a pro card? not even old games?

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Sam.Shab said:
with every single post, OP's config's final cost increasing

won't game run on a pro card? not even old games?

nope, they may run as running crysis on 8-10 year old card...........
moreover pro cards are very costly..........

Lowest quadro I saw was around 7K few months back...

even I don't think games will run, only old Games may be..

as pro cards go for accuracy and gaming cards go for Speed (FPS)...

PRO cards come with official signed / licensed drivers which guarantee artifact free render while working on 3D. You cannot game on them.

azaad_shri75 said:
nope, they may run as running crysis on 8-10 year old card...........
moreover pro cards are very costly..........

oh. is it cause of the drivers mainly? i think the GPU on a pro card is same as gaming card. just drivers are different. is it so?

clmlbx said:
Lowest quadro I saw was around 7K few months back...

even I don't think games will run, only old Games may be..

as pro cards go for accuracy and gaming cards go for Speed (FPS)...

highest priced Pro card i seen is this.

I think Sam is right. I was also reading an old article where this fact was mentioned and also they described a way to hack the bios of an normal ATi card to accept it the drivers for the FIreGL cards.

Yes, the BIOS can be hacked. But it is a mixed bag. Would you want to hack the BIOS of such an expensive board. Their are design differences pertaining to memory and shader processors, bus widths.

asigh said:
Yes, the BIOS can be hacked. But it is a mixed bag. Would you want to hack the BIOS of such an expensive board. Their are design differences pertaining to memory and shader processors, bus widths.

u telling opposite. Cilus trying to tell is a Radeon card, like HD4650. its bios can be hacked to fit in the bios of a FireGL card so it accepts the driver.

and its not expensive at all, atleast not for the guys usually working with the Über expensive hardware.

955 BE braceup for the noisy HSF. Even after the replacement of my HSF, its noisy. Frankly speaking when i am spending 8K on a processor, i dont expect to hear any noise atleast at ilde to 50% usage.

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I think we are digressing from the topic, we have hijacked op's thread................ :razz:

why bro, he is saying he will go for 955 BE , i am sharing my experience, i bought it last week

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pulsar_swift said:
why bro, he is saying he will go for 955 BE , i am sharing my experience, i bought it last week

it was not pointed to you, it was general statement for all, and we posted almost same time, so it got posted after your post........

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azaad_shri75 said:
I think we are digressing from the topic, we have hijacked op's thread................

yeah i think the same too

I think pro card will not be suitable for me....it is very very specific on its purpose. HD5770 will fulfill my needs i think...

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^ yep get it, you could enjoy some games and hd content with that.

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*www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/21?vs=50

is core 2 quad really better than amd??

^^ which AMD series u r talkin about?
oh the previous phenom series sucks

piyush120290 said:
^^ which AMD series u r talkin about?
oh the previous phenom series sucks

Athlon II X4 is equal to Core2Quad 8 series. Phenom II X4's are equal or more powerful to Core2Quad 9 series, even the Extreme Editions. Phenom II X6 is better than all i5's & can match the i7 920-930. rest are still out of AMD's reach.

Sam.Shab said:
u telling opposite. Cilus trying to tell is a Radeon card, like HD4650. its bios can be hacked to fit in the bios of a FireGL card so it accepts the driver.

and its not expensive at all, atleast not for the guys usually working with the Über expensive hardware.

What ever Sam. Even if I said it opposite, you did not get the essence. We are suggesting a BIOS hack. Most people I know, sh$$ their pants just to 'update' mother board BIOS, and here we are suggesting a GPU BIOS hack. If it goes incorrect and renders the accelerator defunct (be it PRO or gaming), will you have the capability or resources to reverse the changes..? That is why I am totally against BIOS hacks. Be it saving money. If you have done it personally, please update us with a nice guide. Will bring more confidence to your post. It is quite easy to recommend vs. keep hardware safety checks in control.

asigh said:
What ever Sam. Even if I said it opposite, you did not get the essence. We are suggesting a BIOS hack. Most people I know, sh$$ their pants just to 'update' mother board BIOS, and here we are suggesting a GPU BIOS hack. If it goes incorrect and renders the accelerator defunct (be it PRO or gaming), will you have the capability or resources to reverse the changes..? That is why I am totally against BIOS hacks. Be it saving money. If you have done it personally, please update us with a nice guide. Will bring more confidence to your post. It is quite easy to recommend vs. keep hardware safety checks in control.

rightly told :razz:

. well till date only once i seen a Bios Hack, in a review on Tom's Hardware (OC something like HD4870X2). porting a Asus GPU bios on some gigabyte/sapphire board to use Asus OC utility (maybe voltage tweaker). in real life, peoples will wet their pant many times even thinking about hacking into a mobo bios, forget GPU bios.

asigh said:
What ever Sam. Even if I said it opposite, you did not get the essence. We are suggesting a BIOS hack. Most people I know, sh$$ their pants just to 'update' mother board BIOS, and here we are suggesting a GPU BIOS hack. If it goes incorrect and renders the accelerator defunct (be it PRO or gaming), will you have the capability or resources to reverse the changes..? That is why I am totally against BIOS hacks. Be it saving money. If you have done it personally, please update us with a nice guide. Will bring more confidence to your post. It is quite easy to recommend vs. keep hardware safety checks in control.

GPU BIOS hack!!!
man!! the last time heard about it was 2 years back
not recommended to any1 who r not experts
it requires some f###ing good skills ;-)

lol..
asingh....u must have made some guys do s#!t in their pants

piyush120290 said:
GPU BIOS hack!!!
man!! the last time heard about it was 2 years back
not recommended to any1 who r not experts
it requires some f###ing good skills
lol..
asingh....u must have made some guys do s#!t in their pants

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I will be doing a GPU hack pretty soon, for my two Radeons. Using RBE. It is quite systematic. My GPU memory chips always run at 1000Mhz, so the VRAMS are hot. Need to correct that. Will update you all. The issue is that the accelerator can be rendered useless if done incorrectly, and then one cannot see the screen to reverse the initial BIOS unless you have IGP, or you have 2 accelerators like I do. So will do it one board at a time. If I mess up one, then I put that as the 2nd card, and use the first card as display, and correct the botched one...!

Here goes the link to convert normal cards to Pro cards (from ATI) using Bios hack. *www.rojakpot.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=105&pgno=0.
And really, bios hack is not that tough also. When my ATI 5770 started to show some problems, I used RBE to to put the latest XFX bios on it. It is the fear of card getting destroyed, that stopping most of the people from BIos hack of GPU.
if I get some time from my damm office job, I'll upload a guide for it.

asigh said:
^^
I will be doing a GPU hack pretty soon, for my two Radeons. Using RBE. It is quite systematic. My GPU memory chips always run at 1000Mhz, so the VRAMS are hot. Need to correct that. Will update you all. The issue is that the accelerator can be rendered useless if done incorrectly, and then one cannot see the screen to reverse the initial BIOS unless you have IGP, or you have 2 accelerators like I do. So will do it one board at a time. If I mess up one, then I put that as the 2nd card, and use the first card as display, and correct the botched one...!

u'll be risking ur 2x4890

do post the result

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Cilus said:
Here goes the link to convert normal cards to Pro cards (from ATI) using Bios hack. *www.rojakpot.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=105&pgno=0.
And really, bios hack is not that tough also. When my ATI 5770 started to show some problems, I used RBE to to put the latest XFX bios on it. It is the fear of card getting destroyed, that stopping most of the people from BIos hack of GPU.
if I get some time from my damm office job, I'll upload a guide for it.

hd 5770 showing problems so early!!
which brand ?
and what kind of problems?

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one more question
is FireGL a pure PRO card?
or it can be used for some serious gaming?

^^
Will do the hacks one at a time, so I can reverse. You cannot game on PRO cards.

Did the op buy his PC ? Its may 9th now. May 4th is gone