Need help in buying PC

Hello Guys,

My friend is planning to buy an High End Computer and his budget is near about 50K (Including UPS, Monitor etc.). Please suggest some configuration under this budget.

maxmk said:
Hello Guys,

My friend is planning to buy an High End Computer and his budget is near about 50K (Including UPS, Monitor etc.). Please suggest some configuration under this budget.

as you mentioned 50k & high end, primary use gonna be gaming.

Processor: Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz: 5.1k
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H: 5.5k
Ram: Transcend 2 X 2Gb DDR3-1333Mhz C9: 4.4k
Hard Disk: Western Digital 500Gb Caviar Blue: 2.4k
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k
Optical Drives: LG 22X SATA DVD-RW: 1.1k
PSU: Corsair VX450W: 3.9k
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma: 1.8k
Monitor: Benq G2220HD 22” / Dell ST2210 21.5": Rs. 8k/8.9k
Keyboard Mouse: your choice.
UPS: APC BR 650VA: Rs. 2.9k

Total @ 50.9k if Benq considered as monitor. Keyboard-Mouse extra. Total cost should be below 52k Logitech Desktop keyboard mouse set is considered. to reduce cost, Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 @ 9.8k maybe considered.

go for this that config will probably go boom boom ... :

1.AMD Athlon II x4 630 ( 5k )
2.MSI 785G E-51 mobo ( 4.5k )
3.G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL 4GB ram ( 6k )
4.Sapphire HD 5850 ( 15.5k )
5.Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB ( 2.5k )
6.Lite-on / LG / Sony optical drive ( 1k )
7.Cooler Master Extreme Power 650w ( 4k )
8.Nzxt M59 / Antec 300 without PSU ( 3.5k )
9.benQ G2220HD 22” / Dell ST2210 21.5" ( 8.5k )
10.Keyboard and mouse : logitech combo ( 0.5k )
11.Cpu cooler : Cooler Master Tx2 ( 1.5k )
12.UPS 650va your choice ( 2.5k )

Total comes to about : 55k - discount = 52k approx...... you can cut down on your screen size get a 19" Full HD screen and save on that....

also @ sam a 450w psu is not enough ... the card manufacturer states a minimum 500w psu ... so it wont even run

NoasArcAngel said:
go for this that config will probably go boom boom ... :

1.AMD Athlon II x4 630 ( 5k )
2.MSI 785G E-51 mobo ( 4.5k )
3.G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL 4GB ram ( 6k )
4.Sapphire HD 5850 ( 15.5k )
5.Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB ( 2.5k )
6.Lite-on / LG / Sony optical drive ( 1k )
7.Cooler Master Extreme Power 650w ( 4k )
8.Nzxt M59 / Antec 300 without PSU ( 3.5k )
9.benQ G2220HD 22” / Dell ST2210 21.5" ( 8.5k )
10.Keyboard and mouse : logitech combo ( 0.5k )
11.Cpu cooler : Cooler Master Tx2 ( 1.5k )
12.UPS 650va your choice ( 2.5k )

Total comes to about : 55k - discount = 52k approx...... you can cut down on your screen size get a 19" Full HD screen and save on that....

also @ sam a 450w psu is not enough ... the card manufacturer states a minimum 500w psu ... so it wont even run

but on the other hand, CM Extreme Power is faulty & most digitians recommend to skip it. VX450W should run the card. its not that power hungry. also i think it is for non 80+ certified PSUs. still to be safe a Corsair VX550W looks another choice but at a added premium of 1.3k.

let OP reply first what his friends needs the PC for.

for the psu... get a Corsair 600W (for better future proofing in mind) ..

(cant comment more on AMD based rigs as its not my flavor)...lol..

@Noas
The Cooler Master Extreme series PSU's are very problematic and faulty, so better let him go with a corsair HX620 (it will provide better future-proofing)....

A

please don't take extreme series from CM even if some one gives it for free :razz:

get corsair smps the highest you can afford after buying the rig. But vx450 is must

azaad_shri75 said:
please don't take extreme series from CM even if some one gives it for free

+1. give CM Extreme Power to your enemy & rejoice :razz:

A

hahahaha , any ways I wonder why people are for it even after repeated warnings of the same, many us including me suffered its consequences.

azaad_shri75 said:
hahahaha , any ways I wonder why people are for it even after repeated warnings of the same, many us including me suffered its consequences.

i myself have no idea. i always advice peoples here not to purchase CM Extreme Power & in the end they end up buying one. well looks like till they not get a good taste of Extreme Power they not gonna understand anything.

thanks for the replies guys (specially Sam.Shab).. but he is still confuse in AMD or Intel.. also he want to use the pc for video editing.... please help

Man, @ 50k budget, AMD is the best solution. Go with Sam's suggestion. And at Video editing AMD is also very good (may be not as good as Core i7 but better than most of the Core 2 Quad series processors).
In Video encoding obviously the extra L3 cache present in Phenom II series processors will help. So for this extend your budget a little (say 1.5k) and go for a Phenom II 925 @ 6.5 - 6.7k.
for the time being, drop the CPU cooler and go for APC 600W UPS @ 1.9k

maxmk said:
thanks for the replies guys (specially Sam.Shab).. but he is still confuse in AMD or Intel.. also he want to use the pc for video editing.... please help

woops. the config i gave is for gaming mainly. video editing wil need changes. well Cilus already replied what needs to be changed. change the proccy, get a lower power video card & the PC ready for video editing cum gaming.

& yes if he doubts AMD proccy got heat problem, its long gone & the cooler on Phenom II X4 965BE far superior to all other stock coolers. far far better than Intel's vanilla :glass-grin: coolers (exception of i7 980X.)

for video editing get a gpu with higher memory as you will be buffering your ram fully...

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also guys if cooler master makes such **** PSU's why do people buy them? personally i like the corsair series but nothing's wrong with cooler master

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also sam the rig you suggested the minimum wattage was 340w ... the corsair 450 can do max 360w under load so he needs atleast 550 / 620....

NoasArcAngel said:
also guys if cooler master makes such **** PSU's why do people buy them? personally i like the corsair series but nothing's wrong with cooler master

people will buy anything if its under there budget..... :razz:

^^
And non-knowledgeable vendors recommend it highly. Seriously, I have seen many guys here. They have threads open for 5-6 pages, at the end. They go buy a CM.E series PSU. Makes us look like idiots.

^^
Cooler Master's other series of PSU's are good but that extreme series should be taken away from the market .....Even i was about to take that PSU but later saw on some other forum about how bad it was and then i settled for a CM Silent Pro and i am happy with it...
Corsair's PSU's are much better though.....

NoasArcAngel said:
also guys if cooler master makes such **** PSU's why do people buy them? personally i like the corsair series but nothing's wrong with cooler master

i think Sid already gave the answer.

KaranTh85 said:
people will buy anything if its under there budget.....

+1. that the point. ppls buy what they have under their budget & many ppls think "oh its Cooler Master. its gonna be good". fit a GTX260 to a Extreme Power & both go BOOM.

asigh said:
^^
And non-knowledgeable vendors recommend it highly. Seriously, I have seen many guys here. They have threads open for 5-6 pages, at the end. They go buy a CM.E series PSU. Makes us look like idiots.

hahaha. true.

hm... i think i need to agree

i never used a CM PSU

maxmk said:
thanks for the replies guys (specially Sam.Shab).. but he is still confuse in AMD or Intel.. also he want to use the pc for video editing.... please help

i think sam shab recommended well
just swap the processor to a phenom one
and go for hd 5750(if gaming is not ur frnd's priority)
or else go for hd5770
tell him to go for AMD

dude a core i5 will suit him better in terms of video encoding performance

Thanks for replies guys ... I have forwarded this thread link to my friend... he will go through this and I hope he will take decision on your recommendations

Thanks again guys...

Sam.Shab said:
+1. that the point. ppls buy what they have under their budget & many ppls think "oh its Cooler Master. its gonna be good". fit a GTX260 to a Extreme Power & both go BOOM.

ya & add one more BooM to it.. :razz:

KaranTh85 said:
ya & add one more BooM to it..

just think of it!!
his frnd playin some serious ****
and suddenly
BOOM!!!
lol
:shock:

piyush120290 said:
just think of it!!
his frnd playin some serious ****
and suddenly
BOOM!!!
lol

what an INSULT for Cooler Master. well they should consider it praising for the amount of damage their Extreme Power to users, specially the novice gamers who just know games & graphics cards. pay next to no attention to PSU.

A

CM is least bothered like other companies when it comes to India - yahan pe kuch bhi chalta hai :evil:

azaad_shri75 said:
CM is least bothered like other companies when it comes to India - yahan pe kuch bhi chalta hai

yup. absolutely right. here peoples got least informed about PC's. only thing matters is CHEAP.

A

yeah absolutely right :-|

I agree.....Here people go into shops and say- "20,000 ka budget hai bhai, isme mere liye ek achha PC bana do....So here is where CM Extreme Series jumps in....Huh..!! When will people understand that they are purchasing a PC and not "Vegetables"....

S

My friend wants to buy a PC for 40k excluding mouse keyboard and printer
It is mostly for playing casual games(albiet latest ones),work.
Intel chipset and 5.1 speakers are a must.

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Sid_gamer said:
I agree.....Here people go into shops and say- "20,000 ka budget hai bhai, isme mere liye ek achha PC bana do....So here is where CM Extreme Series jumps in....Huh..!! When will people understand that they are purchasing a PC and not "Vegetables"....

Ur absolutely right. even my dad's mindset was like dat before I changed it :smile:

Sid_gamer said:
I agree.....Here people go into shops and say- "20,000 ka budget hai bhai, isme mere liye ek achha PC bana do....So here is where CM Extreme Series jumps in....Huh..!! When will people understand that they are purchasing a PC and not "Vegetables"....

yah. what peoples do is select the main components 1st & with the left over money gets the cabby + PSU, usually iBall.

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Sam123456 said:
My friend wants to buy a PC for 40k excluding mouse keyboard and printer
It is mostly for playing casual games(albiet latest ones),work.
Intel chipset and 5.1 speakers are a must.

Intel chipset & 5.1 speaker must? & that also in 40k? well this will leave ~35k (1.5k tax +3.5k for speaker) for the pc itself. ok look at this & comment:

Processor: Core i3 i530 2.93GHz @ 5.9K
Motherboard: Intel DH55TC @ 5.7k //other H55 board same price//
Ram: Transcend 2X2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 4.4k
Hard Disk: Western Digital 500Gb Caviar Blue: 2.4k
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD5750 1GB GDDR5 @ 8.2k
PSU: FSP Saga II 400W/Gigabyte 460W @ 2.3k/2.2k
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma @ 1.8k
Monitor: Samsung 2033SW 20" LCD Monitor @ 7.2k
Speaker: Creative Inspire ***: ~3.5k

total well above her budget & total price will surely touch 45k. if not more. this is cheapest i can make with a balanced config. more cheaper wil make her go into Core2 territory.

still i'll suggest i5 + P55 + HD5770 if she wants a rig that will last long.

A

^ his friend is she not he :smile:

azaad_shri75 said:
^ his friend is she not he

oops. sorry. ok corrected.

I believe AMD is the better choice here, as the other most sensible option would be Core i5 750, for video editing purposes. The i5 will need OP to buy a graphics card, whereas that may be postponed with the AMD alternative. I vote for AMD Phenom II X4 955BE, which may be overclocked by 0.2GHz easily to make it Phenom II X4 965BE.

S

azaad_shri75 said:
^ his friend is she not he

Actually she is a she

A

Sam123456 said:
Actually she is a she

yeah I read it in another post of yours :smile:

S

I meant an intel processor. She doesnt mind a motherboard from any other company.
Also if possible how much will a Core i5+P55+5770 add up to the current configuration.

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ok now I need a decent 5.1 speaker for 4k

^^

hi Sam..wel if its a core i5 or i3 or i7 related querry then plz (a request) post it in the link in my siggy..

also to all guys (if u wish to reply to core ix related querries) plz use the link in my siggy (plz. note, i hv already given a request to mods to change the title of the thread from core i7 to core i3,i5,i7 for desktops and laptops) so its NOT meant jus for core i7 but for all core ix' based processors for both lappy and desktops..

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a sincere request, plz i hope it will not offent anyone or hurt any one.. its jus tat i wanna keep all the core i related querries under one SINGLE thread..

so if u guys wanna post any suggestions wich include the reply to above request and if its related to core ix then plz post it in the link in my siggy)...

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Cheers n e-peace......

J

Sam.Shab said:
yah. what peoples do is select the main components 1st & with the left over money gets the cabby + PSU, usually iBall.

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Intel chipset & 5.1 speaker must? & that also in 40k? well this will leave ~35k (1.5k tax +3.5k for speaker) for the pc itself. ok look at this & comment:

Processor: Core i3 i530 2.93GHz @ 5.9K
Motherboard: Intel DH55TC @ 5.7k //other H55 board same price//
Ram: Transcend 2X2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 4.4k
Hard Disk: Western Digital 500Gb Caviar Blue: 2.4k
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD5750 1GB GDDR5 @ 8.2k
PSU: FSP Saga II 400W/Gigabyte 460W @ 2.3k/2.2k
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma @ 1.8k
Monitor: Samsung 2033SW 20" LCD Monitor @ 7.2k
Speaker: Creative Inspire ***: ~3.5k

total well above her budget & total price will surely touch 45k. if not more. this is cheapest i can make with a balanced config. more cheaper wil make her go into Core2 territory.

still i'll suggest i5 + P55 + HD5770 if she wants a rig that will last long.

Hi Sam n all guyz,

Finally I am in thread (friend of Maxmk who is buying PC

)

As you have mentioned config of Intel i3 this is what I was looking for but..

Also prepared 2 configs :-

Config 1:-

Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz B.E. C3 @ 8900
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P @6800
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000 (Not sure about its price)
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

Config 2 :-

Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz @5100
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @5100
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

N Config 3 :- ( Modified as per above mentioned)

Core i3 i530 2.93GHz @5900
Intel DH55TC @5700
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

Let me clear few things before some guyz get hard on me regarding SMPS

.

I am not very sure about the advantages why you guyz forcing regarding CM or Corsair or Gigabyte as my friend is local Neotech 650w @ 1200 n working fine. (Guidance needed it this )

Confused between AMD & Intel (heard alot that AMD have heating issue)

Please suggest good TV-Tuner (internal) near about @3k

So which is better?

Jackell said:
Hi Sam n all guyz,

Finally I am in thread (friend of Maxmk who is buying PC )

As you have mentioned config of Intel i3 this is what I was looking for but..

Also prepared 2 configs :-

Config 1:-

Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz B.E. C3 @ 8900
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P @6800
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000 (Not sure about its price)
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

Config 2 :-

Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz @5100
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @5100
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

N Config 3 :- ( Modified as per above mentioned)

Core i3 i530 2.93GHz @5900
Intel DH55TC @5700
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @4500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @2500
LG 22x DVD @1100
Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 VAPOR-X 860 Mhz @10000
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor @9000
UPS: APC BR 650VA @3000
Cabinet @1500
650W SMPS @1200
TV Tuner @ 3000 (May be Pinnacle)

welcome to TDF :smile:

ok so heres your config, with a bit of modification on both the components & price.

Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz: 5100
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H: 5.7k (where you found this board so cheap?) or MSI 785G-E53: 5.5k (consider this)
Transcend 4GB DDR3 1333MHz C9: 5500 (market price high)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB: 2300 or consider Samsung F3 or WDC Blue.
LG 22x DVD @1100
Dell ST2210 21.5" FULL HD LCD Monitor: 9800 (order online)
get NZXT Gamma or some other NZXT cabinet: 2k-3.5k.
Seasonic Bronze S12II 430W: 3.8k (super silent) or Corsair VX450W: 3.9k (best efficiency).
APC BR 650VA: 2800

ok with the rest of the money get the normal HD5770 @ 10k. not the Vapor-X. it cost well above 12k & availability will pose more problem.

Let me clear few things before some guyz get hard on me regarding SMPS .

I am not very sure about the advantages why you guyz forcing regarding CM or Corsair or Gigabyte as my friend is local Neotech 650w @ 1200 n working fine. (Guidance needed it this )

Confused between AMD & Intel (heard alot that AMD have heating issue)

So which is better?

theres lot of things one need to consider when buying a PSU. its not like potato shopping. just pick up 1-2kgs

. its one of most important part of PC. bring a bad PSU & it'll shorten life of your PC by years.

maybe, it'll work fine, provided your friend PC not have components that demand a lot of power. so he safe. install a heavy duty graphics card & see the result.

your PC will require a bit of extra power. a cheap 450W or 500W psu will die in days. if it not dies will surely damage your PC components. so i will say, play safe, get a good PSU. even if its 400W, if its 80% certified, it should handle your pc well enough. a 450W PSU from corsair/Seasonic will be even better as it'll give you headroom for future upgrades also. so what you think about the config & PSU?

^I would recommend VX450W because it has 5 year warranty compared to Seasonic's 3. Otherwise both PSU's are at par. In fact, the VX450W is a Seasonic OEM unit.

Krow said:
^I would recommend VX450W because it has 5 year warranty compared to Seasonic's 3. Otherwise both PSU's are at par. In fact, the VX450W is a Seasonic OEM unit.

i know. thats why i gave 2 choice. either a bit "sasta" or 2yrs extra tension free :razz: