Need help with buying a new PC.

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Hello!

My 2 years old gaming PC got busted a couple of days back. Motherboard, Processor and RAM are dead. So, I need a new gaming PC. This time I'll go for AMD and ATI.
My PC has been troubling me a lot for some time now. Heating up like a frying pan, making too much noise and all. I need my PC to be silent and operate at cool temperatures.

This is the config that I made for myself:

Processor-AMD Phenom X2 955 BE. Is there any better processor by AMD? And does this processor run cooler than it's Intel counterparts?

GPU-ATI 4890 Graphics card. This will max out all the games out there. Am I right? How is this card compared to GTX 280? Same question, will this GPU run cooler than my current 8800GTS SLI setup?

Motherboard-I have not decided the motherboard yet. I'll go with a 790FX based motherboard which I suppose is the best AMD has. Please suggest me a good motherboard preferably ASUS which has built-in WiFi. I also need DDR3 RAM support and crossfire support.

RAM- I'll go for DDR3 RAM. Probably 6GB in triple channel. Please suggest me a good brand.

Hard Disk- I'll buy a 1TB Western Digital Hard Drive.

SMPS/PSU- Coolermaster 1000W or higher. Is it fine?

Cabinet and other stuff - A good looking Coolermaster Cabinet and a DVD drive.

LCD-I already have a Samsung T220 22" monitor with awesome specifications that I bought in October last year. I'll be using that only.

Keyboard and mouse- I have Logitech G5 and G15 right now. My G5 mouse is showing signs of aging. So, which other Logitech gaming mouse should I go for? G9? As for the keyboard, tell me any keyboard better than G15.

Speakers- I have Altec Lansing 2.1 speakers which are more than enough for me.

UPS- I've already got a APC 800VA UPS. That should do the job I suppose.

So, the configuration is pretty much done.

Please help me out and also tell me the prices of individual hardware. I need to buy this PC tomorrow morning. So, reply fast please.

Thank You.

Case->buy coolermaster 690 ->in betweenRs 4200-4500
Drive-->sony or samsung -in between Rs 1000-1500

For how much did u purchase Samsung T220 22" monitor...its got solid specs.....

HEy Sunny, will reply u back here for ur config in sum time.. (my net connection is down dude)

edit: well, Cabinet: Cooler master CM690 (comes with 3 fans, one BLUE LED fan in front and one normal fan at the rear and another fan at the side panel ) and has option for 2 more fans (at the top).. it wil lcost u around Rs.4400/-

For the PSU (i hv seen that ppl are suggesting Corsair PSU) well, its a Active PFC PSU so it will need a Pure sine wave UPS (if at all u planning to use a UPS)

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Cheers n e-peace....

@sunny, budget please!!!

here is a rought config:

1) AMD Phenom II X4 955
2) Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (13k) or Asus M4A79T Deluxe(13k). MSI 790FX-GA65 is not available yet here and it costs around 9.2k
30 2x2GB DDR3 corsair or G-Skill

4) HD4890 for 14k
5) xbox360 controller for windows: 1.2k
6) Logitech/ms desktop with laser mouse: am not good in this
7) Cooler master Cm690 for 4k
8) Corsair VX650 for 5.5k or Glacial power (don't remember model) for 4.8k
9) APS 800VA UPS
10) wifi pci card: 1.5k-2k
11) western digital caviar black 1Tb HDD (amazing speeds and 69Mb/s transfer rate)

note:

1) amd ddr3 memory controller is dual channel and you need to use pairs of two
2) get a controller instead of high end k/b+mouse.
3) since most of the amd boards come with crossfire, you better go with ati card as you can add another later.

BIG NOTE:

if you want a extreme rig, pick Intel core i7 if you also do video ripping etc and lot of activities that utilize 4 cores.

Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 13.4k
MSI 790FX-GD70 790FX/SB750 AM3 @ 11.7k
Sapphire HD4890 1GB GDDR5 @ 13.1k
4GB DDR3 1333MHz CL5(try lowest CAS) @ 5k (corsair/zion or g.skill)
Corsair VX550W @ 5.8k

These parts are recommended. Rest go as your choice or as desibond says.

@compaddict, add WD caviar Black and CM 690 to that recommended list

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Budget- Don't really have a budget. Just want a PC that will perform well. I want all the money I spent to be utilized.

No i7 for me please. I'm more into gaming and a little video converting.

I already have both Wired and Wireless Xbox 360 controllers for Windows.

Anyways, I've ordered the following config:
CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition- 14.2K
Motherboard- MSI 790FX-GD70- 13.5K
RAM- Corsair 2x2GB DDR3 1300Mhz low latency one- 9.5k
GPU- ATI Radeon D4890 1GB(Don't remember which brand)- 15K
Hard Disk- Western Digital 1TB- 5.5K + my 2 old 500 gigs hard drives in raid0,
PSU- Corsair 650- 7K
Cabinet- Coolermaster HAF 922- 9k
DVD Drive- LG 22x -1.1K
Keyboard and mouse- I already have Logitech G5 and G15. I'll use them for now and later buy Razer ones.

All that sums up around 70K.

Will this rig max out all games with a 22" LCD? Resolution is 1680x1050.

max out for atleast another year or two.

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Cool! Although my older rig was able to max out most of the games, it was having some serious heating issues. I heard AMD hardware runs pretty cool and quiet.

Hey Sunny

Get Asus M4A79T Deluxe get this Board , this board runs the AMD PII 955 smooth AFAIK this has no bios issues all the boards are having Bios issues for PII940 & PII 955

Get sapphire 1ghz HD 4890 1GB ATOMIC card , this one heats up lot Load temp is 90c , all the HD 4890 are load is 82c & above

As for PSU get Corsair TX650 is Gr8 = But if u have sine wave UPS then it would be better (or) PSU will make noise on the battery backup

Cabinet HAF922 is awesome also Check the cooler master STORM SNIPER !! it pretty good

@sunny, that also depends on how stable the power supply is, how good the ventilation/cooling is and where you are keeping the rig.

current gen, be it amd or intel runs really cool, especially those made on 45nm fabrication. And they also have lot of room for overclocking.

1) Put atleast three fans in CM 690 (front side and rear)
2) Enable Cool 'n' Quiet feature which downclocks processor when the processor is idle
3) Get mobo that has good power saving features and all solid capacitors, ferrite chokes, long life.
4) Get a good thermal paste for processor
5) Get RAM that comes with heat spreader.

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How to enable Cool n Quiet?

LOL 22"??

Get BenQ's G2412 23.6" or Acer's 23.6" both priced @ 12k

Both are gr8 and FULL HD, and yes HD4890 will max out at FULL HD with ease(except CRYSH!T).

Sunny1211993 said:
How to enable Cool n Quiet?

1) you can enable from BIOS or
2) download Cool 'n' Quiet application from amd.com

compaddict, how about 2409W for 14k?

What about crysis 2 - crytek 3 they also do optimization only for the Nvidia cards ???

Motherboard- MSI 790FX-GD70

Y man u ordered this , i saw in many forums that GD70 has same bios issues on temperature as GIGABYTE & Asrock

it's just that they show wrong termperature and nothing else. a future BIOS update should fix it.

^^ cause i got the same thing so do others want the same thing !!

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Hopefully, I'll have my rig by tomorrow. How's Windows 7 support with ATI graphics?

which CPU cooler u ordered !! :-x

Sunny1211993 said:
Hopefully, I'll have my rig by tomorrow. How's Windows 7 support with ATI graphics?

am using HD4770+win7. had some problem till ATI released proper drivers. after that, it rocks!!!

getting 60+fps in games like burnout and GRID and 32fps in crysis at 1440x900 on a dual core 7750BE

getting 60+fps in games like burnout

Do u use fraps for Burnout , everyone is getting same FPS = 60

yes. used fraps.

looks like it shows anything till 60 and above 60fps it doesn't show.

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damngoodman999 said:
which CPU cooler u ordered !!

None.

desiibond said:
am using HD4770+win7. had some problem till ATI released proper drivers. after that, it rocks!!!

getting 60+fps in games like burnout and GRID and 32fps in crysis at 1440x900 on a dual core 7750BE

That's a good news. I think I'll have some good time with AMD/ATI combo.

Good u got the MSI board, it's the BEST right now.

comp@ddict said:
Good u got the MSI board, it's the BEST right now.

Ya its better i know , but the PII X4 processor have Bios issue Gigabyte support now send to me , they ll soon fix

Main problem is with 790Gx \ Fx chipset little freezing &lagging with videos ,gaming , unexpected errors - I was searching 2 week more than 40 forums and reviews abt this problem because i USE it , The owners of GIGABYTE,MSI,ASUS (some model),Asrock are all experiencing these problem due to lack of new bios

everyone is waiting for new BIOS , GIGABYTE support told me that they working hard for new BIOS to fix the issues

But i say GD70 is nice mobo , well to be patient for sometimes untill they release the New Bios .

^^what if you use PCIE graphics??

The PCIe Grafix only im telling !! many some them tell me that latest bios launched this has fixed except lagging issues !!

sunny i'll recomend you getting a 3rd party cooler for your CPU. The fans stocked with AMD processors are not good. Many of my friends are having heating issues with thier Phenom II X2 550. Glacialtech UFO should be a good option for you.

My friend brought it and he runs 35C at noraml conditions, 45C at full load.

i dont think he needs another cooler. I have seen the stock cooler of 955 BE, it looks much better than all the other coolers (the stock ones) i have seen till date, be it AMD or Intel. Its wayy better than the stock heatsink of E7200 or 7750 BE.

only 955 hav the new heat-pipe based cooler

940 also have but , 955 the flat copper flat cooler well keeps 38c idle but LOAD is 55c

can u plz post the pic plz...?

U mean HSF for 955 or 940 ??

I don't recommend a 3rd party cooler. The on which comes with the processor rocks anywayz!

955 cooler is nice , but 940 cooler is stupid !!!

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Well, let's stick to the topic.

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Sunny1211993 said:
Hello!

My 2 years old gaming PC got busted a couple of days back. Motherboard, Processor and RAM are dead. So, I need a new gaming PC. This time I'll go for AMD and ATI.
My PC has been troubling me a lot for some time now. Heating up like a frying pan, making too much noise and all. I need my PC to be silent and operate at cool temperatures.

This is the config that I made for myself:

Processor-AMD Phenom X2 955 BE. Is there any better processor by AMD? And does this processor run cooler than it's Intel counterparts?

GPU-ATI 4890 Graphics card. This will max out all the games out there. Am I right? How is this card compared to GTX 280? Same question, will this GPU run cooler than my current 8800GTS SLI setup?

Motherboard-I have not decided the motherboard yet. I'll go with a 790FX based motherboard which I suppose is the best AMD has. Please suggest me a good motherboard preferably ASUS which has built-in WiFi. I also need DDR3 RAM support and crossfire support.

RAM- I'll go for DDR3 RAM. Probably 6GB in triple channel. Please suggest me a good brand.

Hard Disk- I'll buy a 1TB Western Digital Hard Drive.

SMPS/PSU- Coolermaster 1000W or higher. Is it fine?

Cabinet and other stuff - A good looking Coolermaster Cabinet and a DVD drive.

LCD-I already have a Samsung T220 22" monitor with awesome specifications that I bought in October last year. I'll be using that only.

Keyboard and mouse- I have Logitech G5 and G15 right now. My G5 mouse is showing signs of aging. So, which other Logitech gaming mouse should I go for? G9? As for the keyboard, tell me any keyboard better than G15.

Speakers- I have Altec Lansing 2.1 speakers which are more than enough for me.

UPS- I've already got a APC 800VA UPS. That should do the job I suppose.

So, the configuration is pretty much done.

Please help me out and also tell me the prices of individual hardware. I need to buy this PC tomorrow morning. So, reply fast please.

Thank You.

Bought your PC yet?
Post an assembled pic plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;-)

sunny boy post the pics bhai...

Leave the chance of getting hands on the killer ring. Wanna atleast see it.

S

Ok guys, the rig is here and boy oh boy it's much much faster than my Q6600, 8800GTS rig. It kills!
I'll post some pics tomorrow as I'm tired right now. Had to clean up my table, assemble, do OS installation and stuff.
Sorry to make you wait people

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You guys won't beleive but FarCry2 installed in less than 2 minutes and I'm not exaggerating!
I'm on Windows 7 64-Bit.

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Performance is excellent! I'm getting 50 FPS average in FarCry 2 with everything maxed out, full AA, Vsync enables on 1680x1050 whereas I used to barely manage 20FPS on my 8800GTS SLI system which used to heat up like hell!

Well, AMD.....you have another fanboy now.

^^Congrats mate!!!

real fun comes when you encode a video or audio

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Thanks!
And yeah I don't do encoding and stuff

Up the ante to 1920x1080 and keep the AA at 4x and try, u might get 45fps +.

And what are u gonna do with the 8800 GTS (320MB right)? U gonna xperiment?

comp@ddict said:
Up the ante to 1920x1080 and keep the AA at 4x and try, u might get 45fps +.

But he will use his existing LCD Samsung T220.

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comp@ddict said:
Up the ante to 1920x1080 and keep the AA at 4x and try, u might get 45fps +.

And what are u gonna do with the 8800 GTS (320MB right)? U gonna xperiment?

My current Samsung T220 has a resolution of 1680x1050 max, so no full HD but I'll occasionally hook up my PC to my full HD TV for HD gaming.

I have the G92 version of 8800GTS which is 512MB and it still pwns! I'm gonna sell it off.

I tried out Ghostbusters and I was getting 60FPS all the time.

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A few pics:

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/17459/PIC_0071.JPG

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/17460/PIC_0073.JPG

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/17461/PIC_0074.JPG

*www.imgx.org/pthumbs/large/17462/PIC_0075.JPG

See full sized ones here- *www.imgx.org/public/viewset/7707

Sorry for my extremely poor photography skills

@ Sunny1211993

APC 800VA is enough for TX650 ?? how is battery backup ??

nice rig dude, congrats

S

^^
Yes, it's enough as there are almost zero power cuts in my area

Battery backup is pretty good.

Now I'm getting 100+ FPS in Ghostbusters

Coolermaster TX650

Corsair baba !!

Sunny1211993 said:
Sorry for my extremely poor photography skills

It's not the photography skills, but the cam quality. About time you invest in a better Digi-Cam. :wink:

Sunny boy. I'm not able to see your riggy. Getting error named "too many connections"

Post another One.

And i think the main booster is your HD4890

^^

same error ere too.. so sunny dude, post a screehshot here only (using any image uploader)

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Cheers n e-peace....

Now the pics are visible. I think there is some problem in the server you have uploaded. Any way, nice riggy....and happy gaming. Be careful not to become a insomniac.