Need help with setting up new SSD

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I bought a new SSD a couple of days ago. I installed it in my PC and followed this tutorial to configure it. As soon as the ssd was about to be format, my pc got restarted and I got a BSOD*imgur.com/a/N1Rjt9X . Imgur

After I restarted the computer, the ssd was still not showing up in "My Computer". When I tried to format or Change Letter or Path from Disk Management tool, I got these errors. *imgur.com/a/FB8dJD8 Imgur

After that I have tried using third party tools like Minitool and AOMEI partition tool, have deleted the partition using these tool, and tried to create a fresh partition and then set a letter to SSD but it is still not showing up in "My computer". SSD is showing up in these tools as well as in Connected Devices.

I had plans of cloning the OS from my current HDD to the SSD using some 3rd party tool. Can anyone help how should I go ahead with it.

Also, I have ordered it from amazon, and can return in the next 4 days if the SSD is broken.

Shut down your PC, disconnect the HDD, boot it up, check if SSD is getting detected in BIOS and only then proceed to install windows 10 on it. This way, you won't have any issues with partitioning scheme. Once windows 10 is up and running, connect the hdd, copy/backup important data and format the HDD to get rid of existing partitions.

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I currently have windows 7 installed in my HDD. If I disconnect it, install windows 10 on Ssd and then connect back the HDD (which still will have windows 7),will the system run fine? What tools do I need to set up these? (I'll create a Bootable pendrive with windows 10, but after that what tools do I need to use - for copying data and then formatting the HDD)?

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Forget about cloning OS,win 7 os should not be used anymore by anyone on a new system & even on older hardware it should not be used or used with the assumption of upgrading it soon to win 8.1/10. Follow @SaiyanGoku suggestion & after doing all that go to your mobo bios settings--boot device priority & select ssd with win 10 as the 1st boot device. Once system boots from ssd,just use hdd as secondary storage.

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Will I need to remove windows 7 from the HDD after I do this? If so, how can I do that?

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deepanshuchg said:
Will I need to remove windows 7 from the HDD after I do this? If so, how can I do that?

No need,it will just show up as another drive when pc boots from ssd.You can simply format that drive or use shift+del.

deepanshuchg said:
Will I need to remove windows 7 from the HDD after I do this? If so, how can I do that?

Yes. Just delete all existing partitions on it.

whitestar_999 said:
No need,it will just show up as another drive when pc boots from ssd.You can simply format that drive or use shift+del.

Existing system/hidden partitions won't be removed that way.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Existing system/hidden partitions won't be removed that way.

I was mainly talking about the original C drive which can be removed using shift+del after taking ownership of entire drive.

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Okay I understand what you guys are saying but right now I don't have a 8gb or more usb drive to make it bootable and install win10 at hand right now and there is no way to get it right now under this lockdown. But I need to make sure the ssd is working fine before the return period is over. So is there no way to make it show up in "My computer" just so I can access it (won't close os as you suggested)?

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Do you have any usb drive,you can use linux live usb to boot from that & access ssd & test it by copy pasting random data.

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I do have a 4gb pendrive. I'll find it and try. Or maybe I should really replace it under amazon policy.

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If you send it now for replacement then forget about getting any replacement before 2-3 weeks going by the current lock down situation.

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Do you have any usb drive,you can use linux live usb to boot from that & access ssd & test it by copy pasting random data.

Can you link me to some tutorial that I can follow for this?

Correct me- I will have to make a bootable linux and disconnect hdd, connect ssd and then install linux on the ssd to check it?

deepanshuchg said:
Correct me- I will have to make a bootable linux and disconnect hdd, connect ssd and then install linux on the ssd to check it?

No, you don't need to do this. Since it is getting detected in disk management, they might not entertain your return/replacement request.

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No,you create a bootable live linux usb then you boot from that usb. After boot the live linux will be loaded/installed into your pc ram without touching your hdd/ssd. You can then use live linux just like installed linux to browse your hdd/ssd & test the drive(I suggest connecting only ssd as it is confusing for a new linux user & you may accidentally delete something on hdd).
User's Guide

whitestar_999 said:
No,you create a bootable live linux usb then you boot from that usb. After boot the live linux will be loaded/installed into your pc ram without touching your hdd/ssd. You can then use live linux just like installed linux to browse your hdd/ssd & test the drive(I suggest connecting only ssd as it is confusing for a new linux user & you may accidentally delete something on hdd).
User's Guide

OT: Found something better to make a great bootable drive:
*www.easy2boot.com/download/

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SaiyanGoku said:
OT: Found something better to make a great bootable drive:
*www.easy2boot.com/download/

Looks good.

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SaiyanGoku said:
OT: Found something better to make a great bootable drive:
*www.easy2boot.com/download/

This is better than linuxliveusb.com?

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deepanshuchg said:
This is better than linuxliveusb.com?

Try both & use whichever you find better.

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So I created a bootable usb drive, and thought of trying the ssd for another time with hdd connected and use mini tool to delete and create partition again. But as soon as I connected the ssd, it did SHOW UP this time in my computer.

So I think I don't need to try the live linux anymore, right? I am able to copy random images on the ssd as well. I just tried some images as of now.

Now until I am able to get a bigger usb drive to make it bootable for windows 10, should I clone win 7 for the time being? If so, should I use mini tool or some other 3rd party tool for that?

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Use this tool: MEGA

Win 10 iso: TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)

Use the tool with above iso to create a modified iso image which will fit on a 4gb usb drive.

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File size of the iso is 5.1 GB, are you sure that it will fit in a 4gb drive?

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deepanshuchg said:
File size of the iso is 5.1 GB, are you sure that it will fit in a 4gb drive?

Use the tool(MEGA link),put the iso & this tool in same folder & then right click the tool & select run as admin. It will create a folder of less than 4gb file size. Just copy paste everything inside that folder directly to 4gb fat32 formatted(not ntfs formatted) usb drive & use that to boot/install win 10 after disconnecting hdd.

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Okay, thank you for all the help. I'll try it and will let you guys know how it goes.

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Followed all the steps, but in the middle of copying the ISO folder, the usb drive automatically becomes write protected and gives me a error. I tried to format the usb again using some 3rd party tool (since it was not allowing to format directly) and tried again, but still the same thing happened. Error: Imgur

I will try again to make the bootable drive from a laptop, and will see if that works.

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I think your usb drive is dying.

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I'll try to use another pendrive of 4 gb to make it Bootable from the laptop.

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Update: I'll wait for the lockdown to get over and will get a new Pendrive to install windows 10. The other 4gb Pendrive I had have a space of 3.79 gb and the ISO folder is of 3.81 gb.

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There is another a bit complicated method:
Use this Free Software to install, reinstall, clone Windows 10/8.1/8/7 without CD/DVD/USB! to install win 10 home on ssd directly from win 10 iso on hdd(free edition does not support win 10 pro direct install).

Use this method to upgrade win 10 home to win 10 pro How To Upgrade Windows 10 Home to Pro using an OEM key

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whitestar_999 said:
Use this tool: MEGA

Win 10 iso: TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)
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Use the tool with above iso to create a modified iso image which will fit on a 4gb usb drive.

This iso version is win 10 pro version?

Can we install win10 from external hard disk to ssd ? I am asking since I have bought an SSD but don't know how to install windows in it.

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deepanshuchg said:
This iso version is win 10 pro version?

There is only one universal win 10 iso which contains all the version & will install the version depending on key entered.

mayurthemad01 said:
Can we install win10 from external hard disk to ssd ? I am asking since I have bought an SSD but don't know how to install windows in it.

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See my earlier post,it needs win 7/8.1/10 already installed on another hard disk/ssd or try this Install Windows 10/8.1 From External Hard Drive

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I tried the software you recommended to install it from the hdd directly but as soon as the process started, I again got BSOD. Imgur

This is getting really frustrated now. In your experience do you think the ssd is at fault here?

Edit:These are the folders which got copied before I got bsod Imgur

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Install this software & post a screenshot of all values for your hdd & ssd(edit to remove hdd/ssd serial number from screenshot).
Download

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Here Imgur

Also, the drive isn't showing up in My computer again for some reason. I formatted it using mini tool after the bsod to remove the files which got on it, created a partition again but it didn't show up in My computer. I tried to removed the partition again and create it again but still it is not showing up.

Edit: Whenever I try to delete or format the drive I get this error message Imgur
If I click restart now, the process gets complete but the disk still shows using some 75mb in mini tool but even after creating the partition it doesn't show up in My computer Imgur
Is there a chance that the ssd is infected by some virus?

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Post same screenshot of crystaldiskinfo values for your hdd.

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whitestar_999 said:
Post same screenshot of crystaldiskinfo values for your hdd.

Both are available on the same imgur link.

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hdd screenshot showing crc error,try with different sata cables. Virus infects data not hardware(exceptions are there but not for a typical user/general public) & ssd is empty. Some space on any empty ssd/hdd will always be used for partitioning scheme even if there is no data.

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So I need to change sata cable for the hdd?

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deepanshuchg said:
So I need to change sata cable for the hdd?

Yes as it may also be an issue.

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I don't have an extra SATA cable so I can't check by changing it.
The update is, the drive is showing up again in "My computer". Last night I did this Replacing Manufacturer AHCI Drivers With Standard Microsoft SATA Drivers | Crucial.com but didn't restart the computer to apply this change and shut down the pc. Right now, I disconnected the SSD and connected it back again and started the computer. It was looking for the drivers of SSD as soon as the pc booted, so I don't know which out of these make the drive show up in "My computer" again.

Can you guide me how to install some version of linux on the ssd (after disconnecting hdd). That way I can make sure the ssd is capable of running an OS.

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Download ubuntu-18.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso from here:
Index of /ubuntu-mirror/ubuntu-releases/18.04/

In case you use direct download using download manager & not torrent then match downloaded iso sha1 value(Goat 1000 - CRCDropper drag and drop CRC32 calculator change crc32 to sha1 in drop down menu at bottom before dragging iso file into its window) with its official value: a0c7d2378549d0afa0087ccb1b6233c93a121d80

Create a bootable USB stick on Windows | Ubuntu

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Update: I was able to install the latest version of ubuntu on the SSD. I disconnected the HDD while doing so. Now are there any tools on linux which can test the SSD thoroughly or I don't need to check anything else and the SSD is completely fine? The BSOD I was getting while installing Windows 10 must be because of the way I was trying to install- either directly from hdd or while using this MEGA tool you shared to optimize the ISO file so it will fit in a 4gb usb drive?

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deepanshuchg said:
Update: I was able to install the latest version of ubuntu on the SSD. I disconnected the HDD while doing so. Now are there any tools on linux which can test the SSD thoroughly or I don't need to check anything else and the SSD is completely fine? The BSOD I was getting while installing Windows 10 must be because of the way I was trying to install- either directly from hdd or while using this MEGA tool you shared to optimize the ISO file so it will fit in a 4gb usb drive?

I doubt it,BSOD may also be due to corrupted win 10 iso download. I have used that MEGA link tool & it worked fine for me & many others as reported in the forum from where I got this too. Also this tool uses microsoft own tools to modify the iso.

@Desmond David @Nerevarine any inbuilt SMART monitoring tool in ubuntu?

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whitestar_999 said:
I doubt it,BSOD may also be due to corrupted win 10 iso download. I have used that MEGA link tool & it worked fine for me & many others as reported in the forum from where I got this too. Also this tool uses microsoft own tools to modify the iso.

@Desmond David @Nerevarine any inbuilt SMART monitoring tool in ubuntu?

That's possible. It might also be because of the usb drive which I was using. That usb drive becomes write protected very often, so it might be dying.

whitestar_999 said:
I doubt it,BSOD may also be due to corrupted win 10 iso download. I have used that MEGA link tool & it worked fine for me & many others as reported in the forum from where I got this too. Also this tool uses microsoft own tools to modify the iso.

@Desmond David @Nerevarine any inbuilt SMART monitoring tool in ubuntu?

There's smartmontools. This site should give some details

Monitor SATA and SSD Health with SMART - Linux.com

However, I have never used it myself.

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You can use 'Disks' built-in GUI tool to 1. Review SMART data and 2. Benchmark the drive for sequential I/O performance. In search box look for tool called 'Disks' and invoke it.

Select your disk and Click on the Gear Icon (Button) ->Click Benchmark Drive -> Include Write Benchmark (Select number of samples) and proceed.
You may be prompted to enter Admin password in this process.

Then on top right click on the 3 horizontal lines Icon and in the drop down menu click SMART data. SMART will be displayed in user friendly way.
Here are sample screenshots from my Linux Mint 19. Disks is also available in Ubuntu.

patkim said:
You can use 'Disks' built-in GUI tool to 1. Review SMART data and 2. Benchmark the drive for sequential I/O performance. In search box look for tool called 'Disks' and invoke it.

Select your disk and Click on the Gear Icon (Button) ->Click Benchmark Drive -> Include Write Benchmark (Select number of samples) and proceed.
You may be prompted to enter Admin password in this process.

Then on top right click on the 3 horizontal lines Icon and in the drop down menu click SMART data. SMART will be displayed in user friendly way.
Here are sample screenshots from my Linux Mint 19. Disks is also available in Ubuntu.

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Wow. I never really used this.

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Facing some issues to reply with screenshots. I Will reply as it is fixed

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Here are the screenshots:
I was getting an error when I selected "Include Write Benchmark" in Benchmark disk option. But it worked fine when I selected "Include Write Benchmark" in Benchmark Partition option.

Benchmark Disk (without Write Benchmark)

https://imgur.com/a/XrMcoUB

Benchmark Disk (with Write Benchmark)

https://imgur.com/a/FNHiBAw

Smart Data

https://imgur.com/a/b1UmoCX

Benchmark Partition (with Write Benchmark)

https://imgur.com/a/nXRdOzR

Sorry for the cam pics. I am still not familiar with Linux os so I didn't know how to take ss and upload them.

Also, there is a bug in the new interface of the forum. It isn't allowing me to post with a colon symbol.
Edit: The bug is gone. I am able to put a :

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Looks fine but as for error I am not sure as not a linux user but it seems like you have to unmount & remount the disk between running first 2 tests,wait for others using linux to comment on this.

deepanshuchg said:
Benchmark Disk (with Write Benchmark)

https://imgur.com/a/FNHiBAw

Your partition is mounted, basically it means that it's active. You need to unmount your partition before you can do a write test. Usually safely removing your drive will also unmount, if its an external drive.

You can check which drives are mounted currently using this command:

Code:

sudo mount -l

to unmount a partition, identify your drive and it's mount point (directory where it's mounted) from the above command and then give this command:

Code:

sudo umount <mount_point>

Run the benchmark after this and it should work.

deepanshuchg said:
Sorry for the cam pics. I am still not familiar with Linux os so I didn't know how to take ss and upload them.

Also, there is a bug in the new interface of the forum. It isn't allowing me to post with a colon symbol.
Edit: The bug is gone. I am able to put a :

Usually the Print screen button will launch whatever is the screenshot tool of your distro. You can take screenshots using that.

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Desmond David said:
Your partition is mounted, basically it means that it's active. You need to unmount your partition before you can do a write test. Usually safely removing your drive will also unmount, if its an external drive.

You can check which drives are mounted currently using this command:

Code:

sudo mount -l

to unmount a partition, identify your drive and it's mount point (directory where it's mounted) from the above command and then give this command:

Code:

sudo umount <mount_point>

Run the benchmark after this and it should work.

Usually the Print screen button will launch whatever is the screenshot tool of your distro. You can take screenshots using that.

The Linux OS is working on the same drive which I am testing, so unmounting the drive will work?

Also, do I need to check the benchmark by unmounting anymore? Isn't these above stats enough to conclude that my ssd is fine?

deepanshuchg said:
The Linux OS is working on the same drive which I am testing

Then you will have to boot into some live USB and run the benchmark from there.

deepanshuchg said:
Also, do I need to check the benchmark by unmounting anymore? Isn't these above stats enough to conclude that my ssd is fine?

This tool will automatically unmount your drives I think. But if your OS is running on some drive, that won't automatically unmount because that would mean your OS will have to be stopped. That is of course not possible.

Even Windows will have the same behaviour.

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I am gonna pass this, and conclude that my SSD is fine. Thank you, everyone, in this thread who helped me.

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