^^Unfortunately,both the iem you have mentioned are really sub par.
Hmm.. here's something for you. I recently tried the sony xba 4 and whatever you suggested to me. Luckily i didn't hang myself, especially after spending a week with the xba 4. A super woofer. Wow, sony is just amazing. A super woofer that doesn't respond very well under 40 hz.

Although there were tits and bits of crispiness with the xba 4 that can satisfy someone who doesn't mind spending his 15,000 for crispiness and a somehow deeper sound stage. The real fun was when i did a side by side comparison of the xba 4 with my bose ie2, klipsch s4, twinwoofers and cx300ii. Difference was mostly in cosmetics, rather than sound. In terms of sound, the xba 4 has added advantage of a deeper sound stage and resolution of mids/highs. And guess what? Some people don't even prefer crispy sounding iem, they rather prefer bass driven sound, and sound that has been tuned to play hip hop and rap, rather than an orchestra. I know you might think this is weird, but you don't seem to understand that not everyone is same, whatever you have suggested might work for you only. Thats why i told him, if you prefer muddy bass, which many people do, go for the cx300ii