Need Suggestions for CPU & RAM Upgrade.

Hi Guys.

I purchased a PC with following config during May 2018.

Now I would like to upgrade the CPU & RAM alone. Budget - 18k (Max)

Reason : My PC chokes when I use multiple tabbed browsing, some excel/word docs and Visual Studio running simultaneously.

I purchased it for Gaming. Far Cry 4 runs smoothly. Watch dogs, GTA 5 flickers even in medium settings.

Config.

CABINET : CIRCLE MID TOWER CABINET (ATX) - CC821

HDD : WD1TB BLUE (WD10EZEX)

MONITOR : BENQ GW2270-VA 22 INCH

CPU : INTEL PROCESSOR PENTIUM DUAL CORE G4560

RAM : CRUCIAL DESKTOP RAM - 4GB (4GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz (CT4G4DFS824A)

PSU : CORSAIR SMPS CX450 - 450 WATT

MOBO : ASROCK H110M HDV R3.0 Motherboard

GFX CARD : SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX 570 4GD5 Graphic Card 11266-04-41G

Kindly suggest.

Budget -19K

AMD Ryzen 3 3200G -8K,
Asrock B450 Pro4 -7K,
G.Skill SniperX 8GB 3200Mhz -4K
Total -19K

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bssunilreddy said:
Budget -19K

AMD Ryzen 3 3200G -8K,
Asrock B450 Pro4 -7K,
G.Skill SniperX 8GB 3200Mhz -4K
Total -19K

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Will it be future proof for another 3-4 years ?

What do I do with my existing CPU, Motherboard and RAM ?

giprabu said:
Will it be future proof for another 3-4 years ?

What do I do with my existing CPU, Motherboard and RAM ?

Sell your present components and there is no such thing as future proofing in computers.

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bssunilreddy said:
Budget -19K

AMD Ryzen 3 3200G -8K,
Asrock B450 Pro4 -7K,
G.Skill SniperX 8GB 3200Mhz -4K
Total -19K

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Why 3200G when he already has a GPU, that too a RX570?

omega44-xt said:
Why 3200G when he already has a GPU, that too a RX570?

If I quote 3400G or higher processor then it is out of his budget right

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CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 8.3k

Mobo - Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX - 7k*

RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 3000MHz - 3k

Total - 18.3k

Add another 8GB RAM later.

instead of investing 8k on processor and 7k on board, can't we just put 15k on a good inter processor ? (retaining my current mother board?)

bssunilreddy said:
If I quote 3400G or higher processor then it is out of his budget right

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R5 1600 costs up to 8.5k. IMO there's no scenario where the AMD APUs are worth recommending. Instead of R5 APU, better to get R5 1600 + a used GPU. R3 APU's GPU is too weak, not to forget its just 4c/4t.

giprabu said:
instead of investing 8k on processor and 7k on board, can't we just put 15k on a good inter processor ? (retaining my current mother board?)

Intel processors are EOL or RIP nowadays compared with AMD.
Even the above setup with Ryzen 1st Gen is good. Go with it.

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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 looks interesting.

BTW you know any online store that does shipping in current scenario ?

Thank you guys !

giprabu said:
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 looks interesting.

BTW you know any online store that does shipping in current scenario ?

Thank you guys !

Vedantcomputers offers free shipping and no gateway charges.
Call them and confirm before buying. Okay.

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giprabu said:
instead of investing 8k on processor and 7k on board, can't we just put 15k on a good inter processor ? (retaining my current mother board?)

If you had B360/365 mobo, maybe yes. I think you can barely find an i5 9600KF for 15k. Then again it lacks a cooler in box, so another 3k for a decent cooler, also it needs Z390 to use overclocking. The i5 9400F & i5 9600 have cooler in the box but both of them perform similar to each other & aren't like way ahead of Ryzen 5 1600.

Also, it might be easier to sell CPU+mobo as a bundle.

giprabu said:
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 looks interesting.

BTW you know any online store that does shipping in current scenario ?

Thank you guys !

No shipping till May 3rd. Wait for future government guidelines.

giprabu said:
instead of investing 8k on processor and 7k on board, can't we just put 15k on a good inter processor ? (retaining my current mother board?)

Sorry for the wrong info earlier. Your mobo is H110, not H310, so it only supports Intel 6th & 7th gen CPUs. You can see above that R5 1600 is better in raw performance against i7 7700K & has better 1% low fps for games (higher 1% low mean lower fps fluctuations which hamper gaming experience).

omega44-xt said:
Sorry for the wrong info earlier. Your mobo is H110, not H310, so it only supports Intel 6th & 7th gen CPUs. You can see above that R5 1600 is better in raw performance against i7 7700K & has better 1% low fps for games (higher 1% low mean lower fps fluctuations which hamper gaming experience).

Those performance details are based on CPU only ? or with GPU ?

giprabu said:
Those performance details are based on CPU only ? or with GPU ?

Cinebench is CPU only benchmark, all systems have same RAM & GPU otherwise. The BFV benchmark uses RTX 2080Ti as GPU with dual-channel 16GB RAM with different CPU & mobos where necessary.

Why are you not using a SSD in 2020 yet? Visual studio can choke even 16GB ram. If you want to run it properly, increase budget, get 32GB 3200Mhz ram in dual channel and a R5 3600 or R7 2700.

Hi Guys.. Sorry for bumping on a old thread.

Due to budget issues, couldn't upgrade the PC as planned during April.

Planning to do it now. (Budget - 20k). Does the below config still holds good ??

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Mobo - Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX
RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 3000MHz

Planning to purchase them in a week.

giprabu said:
Hi Guys.. Sorry for bumping on a old thread.

Due to budget issues, couldn't upgrade the PC as planned during April.

Planning to do it now. (Budget - 20k). Does the below config still holds good ??

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Mobo - Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX
RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 3000MHz

Planning to purchase them in a week.

R5 1600 would be hard to find but R3 3100 is a good choice of CPU. Also prices have increased a bit due to corona & China border issues. Otherwise, mobo & RAM are still good.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 3 3100 - 8.7k
Mobo - Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX - 7.5k
RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 3200MHz - 4k
Total - 20.2k

Comparisons:

omega44-xt said:
R5 1600 would be hard to find but R3 3100 is a good choice of CPU. Also prices have increased a bit due to corona & China border issues. Otherwise, mobo & RAM are still good.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 3 3100 - 8.7k
Mobo - Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX - 7.5k
RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 3200MHz - 4k
Total - 20.2k

R3 3100 ?? I'm unable to convince myself to buy a 4C8T from a 6C12T processor. :-(

Why not R5 2600 ?

And Asrock B450 Pro ATX board is not available online. Is Asrock B450 Steel legend a good one ?

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giprabu said:
R3 3100 ?? I'm unable to convince myself to buy a 4C8T from a 6C12T processor.

Why not R5 2600 ?

And Asrock B450 Pro ATX board is not available online. Is Asrock B450 Steel legend a good one ?

You can go with B450 Steel Legend.

What about the processor?

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giprabu said:
What about the processor?

You will have to check benchmarks for the software you use to see how much is the difference between 6 slower cores with 12 threads & 4 faster cores with 8 threads. I think above cinebench R20 score chart shows it quite well where R3100 is just 137 points behind ryzen 1600.

giprabu said:
What about the processor?

I posted the benchmarks to alleviate any concerns. That 4c/8t R3 3100 is not even 10% inferior to R5 1600, whereas R3 3300X beats it in Cinebench & beats it big time for gaming. Cores don't matter. AMD had a 8 core CPU even back in 2012-13 or so & that was a mess. Intel CPUs with half the number of cores were better. Architecture is what matters.

If you can spend for R5 2600, better buy R5 3500 or R3 3300X. R5 2600 & R5 1600 are just old now & newer architecture is observably better.

That means, you suggest me to opt for R3 3100 over R5 1600 ? I have inquired with local vendors and they've informed me that price difference between them is ~1.5k.. but still awaiting confirmation.

If it is true, then which one shall I choose ?

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giprabu said:
That means, you suggest me to opt for R3 3100 over R5 1600 ? I have inquired with local vendors and they've informed me that price difference between them is ~1.5k.. but still awaiting confirmation.

If it is true, then which one shall I choose ?

Definitely R3 3100.

whitestar_999 said:
Definitely R3 3100.

One final doubt...

If I replace my HDD with a SSD and add 32 GB RAM to my existing rig, will the performance considerably increase ???

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giprabu said:
One final doubt...

If I replace my HDD with a SSD and add 32 GB RAM to my existing rig, will the performance considerably increase ???

Replacing hdd with ssd always improves overall performance significantly(check disk usage in task manager when experiencing slowdown & you will see disk usage at 80-90%+), adding ram helps if experiencing 70-75%+ ram usage consistently in task manager. However these will not make your current processor faster so if in task manager you see your processor usage 70-75%+ then that won't go down.

giprabu said:
That means, you suggest me to opt for R3 3100 over R5 1600 ? I have inquired with local vendors and they've informed me that price difference between them is ~1.5k.. but still awaiting confirmation.

If it is true, then which one shall I choose ?

Get whichever is cheaper IMO. Both perform similarly & maybe R3 3100 will be better in the long run because of newer architecture, surely is the case for games. Enquire about R3 3300X & R5 3500 as well.

Hey Guys..

Thanks for all your suggestions. My budget was 20k. But unfortunately my mobile has started showing dying symptoms. So I had shrinked the budget to 10K and purchased the following:

1) WD SSD Green 240 GB
2) 8 GB x2 Crucial 2400Mhz RAM

both together @ 10k.

Booting is FAST. Game loadings FAST.
I'm able to easily switch between Visual Studio - Firefox (10 Tabs) - Microsoft Edge (5 tabs) ... Experience so far is Butter smooth..

Hope I can manage for another 2 years.

For the remaining 10K, I need to purchase a mobile. Filled out the questionnaire. Please guide me for this one too..

Need a Budget Android Phone @ 10K