Need to buy best android under 20K

Friends i am currently using a motorola defy plus for over a year and need to switch to new droid phone. My max. Budget is 20k. AFAIK decent options available in market under 20k are 1) Samsung galaxy advance 2) htc desire x 3) lg optimus l9 4) samsung galaxy s3 mini(from ebay, as officially its nowhere in market)

Please advice me best phone from above 4. I would be using the nee device for next 12-18 months, so need something that is performs well, is nicely built and has large battery.

Optimus L9.

tkin said:
Optimus L9.

Thanks bro, but one doubt abt LG. Is after sales ervice good n reliable of LG? n is it a quality product compared to samaung n hyc as i need to use the one i woild buy for next 12-18 months

Samsung galaxy grand, the phablet....

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Gaurav265 said:
Samsung galaxy grand, the phablet....

+1 to this!

Samsung Galaxy S Advance if you care about Camera quality.

RON28 said:
Samsung Galaxy S Advance if you care about Camera quality.

Galaxy grand is better than sgs advance...

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Does anyone have any idea as to which GPU does Galaxy Grand has?
It is not mentioned anywhere, not even on the official page.
Anyway, +1 to Galaxy S Advance!

LG owner here, no issues till now with after sales servicing in my past 3 years of lg mobile usage,
and i too would suggest LG Optimus L9 (SGX540 is awesome) !

SG Grand resolution is low.

Lg L9

For those suggesting Galaxy Grand I have two issues with it(else I'd be buying it myself):
1. See the PPI, its 187, its lower than any recent phone I had ever seen, forget clear image you'd be able to count pixels on it: Samsung Galaxy Grand I9082 - Full phone specifications
2. Still no solid info about the GPU or the chipset, BUT this one site here lists the chipset as Broadcomm BCM28155, its a good chipset(from GSIIPlus I think) but not so sure about performance and app compatibility as very few phones use it: Samsung Galaxy Grand Duos vs Micromax A116 Canvas HD Specs Comparison

I still think LG L9 is better, and as far as support goes LG TV/AC support is very good as I had experienced personally, so mobile support should be good as well.

Just that LG L9 has a sub par cam(not as good as Sony or Lumia series but better than samsung series at that range) and android updates may not come at all.

Thanks to all of u 4 replying friends. I am now confused between galaxy grand and lg l9. Chcked specs of both grand and l9. I am not more into pics so camera be it 5 or 8mp isnt a issue for me. Even screen size is no issue as both 4.7 n 5 are ok for me. The only thing that attracts me more towards l9 is its screen resolution. Also ive seen besides S and note series samsung is known to produce phones that hang/lag a lot(including s duos) so concerned if same May happen with grand as no official reviews r available on net abt it. On other side checked online reviews of l9 and it says that l9 performs smoothly. Without any lag/hang even on multitasking. So shall i go with l9 for its performance or wait for grand`s reviews. Also most important, on 5 inch screen grand`s resolution would be sufficient enuf to be crisp n clear?

Rather considering S Advance and Desire X, its better you buy Desire SV, you can buy it for 18-19k, considering the price tag it is a very good phone.
Samsung Grand looks good buy can't say anything before all specs are available and its not a good idea to comment without getting hands on the device.

NexGen said:
Thanks to all of u 4 replying friends. I am now confused between galaxy grand and lg l9. Chcked specs of both grand and l9. I am not more into pics so camera be it 5 or 8mp isnt a issue for me. Even screen size is no issue as both 4.7 n 5 are ok for me. The only thing that attracts me more towards l9 is its screen resolution. Also ive seen besides S and note series samsung is known to produce phones that hang/lag a lot(including s duos) so concerned if same May happen with grand as no official reviews r available on net abt it. On other side checked online reviews of l9 and it says that l9 performs smoothly. Without any lag/hang even on multitasking. So shall i go with l9 for its performance or wait for grand`s reviews. Also most important, on 5 inch screen grand`s resolution would be sufficient enuf to be crisp n clear?

Keep dreaming, its 187 ppi.

Grand S has the same GPU as the notoriously slow Galaxy Y series. I am sure Broadcomm has done a lot of low leave optimization so that it can record 1080p video recording and decoding but is it enough? Surely it will be no match for top of the line mobile phone GPU like PowerVR SGX540 in L9. Add to it L9 has IPS display of qHD resolution.

And lastly i doubt Grand S will lag under day to day use but once you start to test various apps and play around, it'll show its weaknesses.

tkin said:
Keep dreaming, its 187 ppi.

aroraanant said:
Rather considering S Advance and Desire X, its better you buy Desire SV, you can buy it for 18-19k, considering the price tag it is a very good phone.
Samsung Grand looks good buy can't say anything before all specs are available and its not a good idea to comment without getting hands on the device.

Sam said:
Grand S has the same GPU as the notoriously slow Galaxy Y series. I am sure Broadcomm has done a lot of low leave optimization so that it can record 1080p video recording and decoding but is it enough? Surely it will be no match for top of the line mobile phone GPU like PowerVR SGX540 in L9. Add to it L9 has IPS display of qHD resolution.

And lastly i doubt Grand S will lag under day to day use but once you start to test various apps and play around, it'll show its weaknesses.

thanks for your suggestions friends. so shall i go ahead n buy LG Optmius L9?

NexGen said:
thanks for your suggestions friends. so shall i go ahead n buy LG Optmius L9?

Its the best offer so far, but you may want to read up some reviews as not of forum members had purchased it.

^^ furious_gamer bought L9. did a brief review yet detailed review. it is in the review section.

tkin said:
Its the best offer so far, but you may want to read up some reviews as not of forum members had purchased it.

Sam said:
^^ furious_gamer bought L9. did a brief review yet detailed review. it is in the review section.

thanks friends. i just read the review by furious_gamer. i am clear with my doubts now and would purchase L9 tomorrow itself. thanks a ton for all your suggestions and support

NexGen said:
thanks friends. i just read the review by furious_gamer. i am clear with my doubts now and would purchase L9 tomorrow itself. thanks a ton for all your suggestions and support

Congrats! and Don't forget to write a review once you buy it.

Shah said:
Congrats! and Don't forget to write a review once you buy it.

Thanks bro. bought the LG L9 white colour just few minutes ago from a shop in Ahmedabad. checked all online sites since morning but L9 was available no-where besides infibeam(their customer care said to deliver it in 10 days) and ebay(hard to trust individual sellers in compare to FK,HS18 etc). Also i must have called more than 50 shops in ahmdabad including branded like mobile store, vijay sales, sales india, croma etc n it was not available anywhere. Atlast got from a wholesale dealer for 18500/- just now. This shows how popular the phone is, and in high demand too.

My first reaction after opening the box was "wowwwwwww" its so beautiful. slim n nice to hold in hand. i have seen htc desire x, desire sv, SG s2, SG advanced dummy pieces in last few days n i tell u this LG body is unmatchable. infact now those devices look crap in front of this L9. its of the same size as SGS3.

Box contains 2150 mah battery, black colour headsets and usb charger. just turned the screen onn n OMG, it gives a feeling of working on a small tablet instead of a phone. Total different experience from a 4 inch phone. UI is smooth n fast. apps are opening n getting down close much fast then my defy plus. just heard one song in speakers as well in headsets, and sound in both are pretty loud n clear. browsed net for a minute and on 2g airtel network site opened pretty fast on chrome browser. so i give full marks for music n browsing. right now im downloading few apps using same 2g network n speed is quite good. i used multi tasking like music, browsing and few others at once and no issues like hang/lag as of now initially. i am in the shop itself right now, so will share detailed review, screenshots and other details once i reach home in evening.

Thanks a lot to all of you for helping me buy this awesome piece of beauty.

Note: i am no expert in reviews so dont know what all aspects to include in my review. so request you all to either ask me what all you would like to know about this phone or let me know what all details i should include in review

congrats. how is the image quality compared to Defy plus?

NexGen said:
Thanks bro. bought the LG L9 white colour just few minutes ago from a shop in Ahmedabad. checked all online sites since morning but L9 was available no-where besides infibeam(their customer care said to deliver it in 10 days) and ebay(hard to trust individual sellers in compare to FK,HS18 etc). Also i must have called more than 50 shops in ahmdabad including branded like mobile store, vijay sales, sales india, croma etc n it was not available anywhere. Atlast got from a wholesale dealer for 18500/- just now. This shows how popular the phone is, and in high demand too.

My first reaction after opening the box was "wowwwwwww" its so beautiful. slim n nice to hold in hand. i have seen htc desire x, desire sv, SG s2, SG advanced dummy pieces in last few days n i tell u this LG body is unmatchable. infact now those devices look crap in front of this L9. its of the same size as SGS3.

Box contains 2150 mah battery, black colour headsets and usb charger. just turned the screen onn n OMG, it gives a feeling of working on a small tablet instead of a phone. Total different experience from a 4 inch phone. UI is smooth n fast. apps are opening n getting down close much fast then my defy plus. just heard one song in speakers as well in headsets, and sound in both are pretty loud n clear. browsed net for a minute and on 2g airtel network site opened pretty fast on chrome browser. so i give full marks for music n browsing. right now im downloading few apps using same 2g network n speed is quite good. i used multi tasking like music, browsing and few others at once and no issues like hang/lag as of now initially. i am in the shop itself right now, so will share detailed review, screenshots and other details once i reach home in evening.

Thanks a lot to all of you for helping me buy this awesome piece of beauty.

Note: i am no expert in reviews so dont know what all aspects to include in my review. so request you all to either ask me what all you would like to know about this phone or let me know what all details i should include in review

Well good, I am also thinking of buying a cell soon, so I need some inputs from you.

1. Show us a few shots taken by the camera, one in bright outdoors, and one in dark indoors with flash. Resize them(1280x1024) and upload to imgur, do not modify them.
2. How crisp is the screen? And how's the viewing angle?
3. How's the touch response? Ever experienced any false touches?(Like you tap one place, another placed gets tapped).
4. Also finally, how's the battery backup?

Sam said:
congrats. how is the image quality compared to Defy plus?

thanks buddy. the cam is better then defy plus, but not the best in 5 MP row. will surely post indoor n outdoor pics samples tonite alongwith vdo rec. sample

tkin said:
Well good, I am also thinking of buying a cell soon, so I need some inputs from you.

1. Show us a few shots taken by the camera, one in bright outdoors, and one in dark indoors with flash. Resize them(1280x1024) and upload to imgur, do not modify them.
2. How crisp is the screen? And how's the viewing angle?
3. How's the touch response? Ever experienced any false touches?(Like you tap one place, another placed gets tapped).
4. Also finally, how's the battery backup?

1)buddy would post pics tonite once i reach home.

2)viewing angles are pretty good, sharp n clear(dont compare it to super amoled devices, but its the best in non-amoled screens). screen is decently clear, sharp n crisp. photos n videos look pretty sharp n clear

3)touch is quick, no false touches as of now. one thing i noticed that i would like to share. sometimes few buttons only work from a particular hand. like i was holding phone in left hand and pressed a button with left hand(holding the phone in same hand),but it dint respond but when i pressed it with right hand(still holding the phone in left hand) it worked. this thing occured few times. dont know is it a mechanism of huge screen phones that u need to press button with particular angle or what but otherwise touch is quick and responsive.

4) the battery was 100% when i left the shop. browsing for last 2 hours continuously on 2g network alongwith music played for around one hour. still the battery is above 50%.

@ tkin buddy there's no option of 1280*1-24. the image sizes in cam are 2592*1944, 2048*1536, 2592*1458, 1280*960, 12808720. from which all sizes should i post samples?

NexGen said:
thanks buddy. the cam is better then defy plus, but not the best in 5 MP row. will surely post indoor n outdoor pics samples tonite alongwith vdo rec. sample

1)buddy would post pics tonite once i reach home.

2)viewing angles are pretty good, sharp n clear(dont compare it to super amoled devices, but its the best in non-amoled screens). screen is decently clear, sharp n crisp. photos n videos look pretty sharp n clear

3)touch is quick, no false touches as of now. one thing i noticed that i would like to share. sometimes few buttons only work from a particular hand. like i was holding phone in left hand and pressed a button with left hand(holding the phone in same hand),but it dint respond but when i pressed it with right hand(still holding the phone in left hand) it worked. this thing occured few times. dont know is it a mechanism of huge screen phones that u need to press button with particular angle or what but otherwise touch is quick and responsive.

4) the battery was 100% when i left the shop. browsing for last 2 hours continuously on 2g network alongwith music played for around one hour. still the battery is above 50%.

@ tkin buddy there's no option of 1280*1-24. the image sizes in cam are 2592*1944, 2048*1536, 2592*1458, 1280*960, 12808720. from which all sizes should i post samples?

Thanks for the quick response, I am seriously considering this phone now, well take photos in 2592x1944 but then resize them when you get home and upload at something around 1280x....
You can use this software to resize: Paint.NET - Free Software for Digital Photo Editing
Don't mod the photos, I want to see the original quality.

Samples of Pics clicked Indoor using flash

Below are the Pics clicked with 2592*1944 size in cam

Below are the Pics Clicked with 1280*960 size in cam

will post outdoor pics soon (today itself)

tkin said:
Thanks for the quick response, I am seriously considering this phone now, well take photos in 2592x1944 but then resize them when you get home and upload at something around 1280x....
You can use this software to resize: Paint.NET - Free Software for Digital Photo Editing
Don't mod the photos, I want to see the original quality.

bro i have posted indoor pics in 2 sizes just now. will post outdoor a.s.a.p. please check them n do let me know if more indoor ones are required to be posted

NexGen said:
Samples of Pics clicked Indoor using flash

Below are the Pics clicked with 2592*1944 size in cam

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Below are the Pics Clicked with 1280*960 size in cam

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will post outdoor pics soon (today itself)

bro i have posted indoor pics in 2 sizes just now. will post outdoor a.s.a.p. please check them n do let me know if more indoor ones are required to be posted

Thanks a lot dude, and no further indoor shots are needed, not bad, but still leaves a lot to be desired, anyway cam wasn't a strong point of this phone anyway, the hardware and screen alone makes up for it, now a few outdoor shots and I am all set.

tkin said:
Thanks a lot dude, and no further indoor shots are needed, not bad, but still leaves a lot to be desired, anyway cam wasn't a strong point of this phone anyway, the hardware and screen alone makes up for it, now a few outdoor shots and I am all set.

posting outdoor pics a.s.a.p. b4 that posting some screenshots within a minute.

Screenshots of L9 with adw launcher installed

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Some more screenshots of LG L9

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Samples of Outdoor pics clicked using LG L9 (Pics were taking too long to upload using "insert image" option, so uploaded them on "postimage.org")

below pics are clicked with 1280*960 size on cam

1) *postimage.org/image/vq4c7d3yv/

2) *postimage.org/image/4wdfdd3kn/

3) *postimage.org/image/vzxgxtmkr/

4) *postimage.org/image/5d8yxpd8r/

Samples of Outdoor pics of LG L9 with 2592*1944 size in cam

1) *postimage.org/image/sicj4oxzx/

2) *postimage.org/image/6obg5dt93/

3) *postimage.org/image/k1dzkc68b/

4) *postimage.org/image/f6u317ejb/

5) *postimage.org/image/ix5xl3pr1/

Some more Samples of Outdoor pics of LG L9 with 2592*1944 size in cam

1)*postimage.org/image/wthfcfbm3/42274ca5/

2) *postimage.org/image/sg93kcxz5/889599e4/

^^^^i don't know about photography but pics are very clear, then why did GSMARENA said pics of L9 are of poor quality?

RON28 said:
^^^^i don't know about photography but pics are very clear, then why did GSMARENA said pics of L9 are of poor quality?

No they are not, loss of detail, even in daylight, purple fringing galore, not good at all, but as I said you can't have everything under 20k, and I for one would chose L9 over its screen and processing power any day over a better cam.

akshaykumar12 said:
You have two options in this budget SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 2 7.0 8GB and SAMSUNG GALAXY S (I9000) both are good give you the best value of your money check them now here

He bought LG L9

@Akshay buddy i already purchased lg l9 n its really ossum phone

akshaykumar12 said:
You have two options in this budget SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 2 7.0 8GB and SAMSUNG GALAXY S (I9000) both are good give you the best value of your money check them now here

People just want to post or can say want to give their suggestions without even reading all the posts in the thread, and this actually irritates a lot.

@NextGen: Outdoor pics are good. If you can, post some indoor pics as well as some videos captured using your L9.

Shah said:
@NextGen: Outdoor pics are good. If you can, post some indoor pics as well as some videos captured using your L9.

Bro indoor pics are already posted. Check page1 of this thread, its their itself in one of the post. Will post video by tonite

Another LG Optimus L9 user here, i too was going to suggest goig for the L9 , the phone is really good on all aspects, battery, speed, display, but yes the camera leaves much to be desired.

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@NexGen I have found three variants of the LG L9
1. Lg Optimus L9 P760 (also P768)
2. Lg Optimus L9 P765
3. Lg Optimus L9 P769

Which of these you have? The P769 looks good with 4.5", 245 PPI and Corning Gorilla Glass!

And is it true that after android 4.0.4, you cannot use apps2sd?!

^Ultimate~Master said:
@NexGen I have found three variants of the LG L9
1. Lg Optimus L9 P760 (also P768)
2. Lg Optimus L9 P765
3. Lg Optimus L9 P769

Which of these you have? The P769 looks good with 4.5", 245 PPI and Corning Gorilla Glass!

And is it true that after android 4.0.4, you cannot use apps2sd?!

Bro I from India and the model available here that i bought is the LG L9 p765. Bro 4GB Internal memory was enough for me so was not using memory card as of now dont Know about app2sd transfer is Possible or not. allow me couple of hours time, ill use my fathers sd card n try to move apps in it n let U know

mitraark said:
Another LG Optimus L9 user here, i too was going to suggest goig for the L9 , the phone is really good on all aspects, battery, speed, display, but yes the camera leaves much to be desired.

Hey congrats bro. I Am Sure u must b enjoying d new ossum l9 like me.

^Ultimate~Master said:
@NexGen I have found three variants of the LG L9
1. Lg Optimus L9 P760 (also P768)
2. Lg Optimus L9 P765
3. Lg Optimus L9 P769

Which of these you have? The P769 looks good with 4.5", 245 PPI and Corning Gorilla Glass!

And is it true that after android 4.0.4, you cannot use apps2sd?!

ive just downloaded the apps2sd app from play store. Tried to move apps using this app from internal memory to sd card but getting message as "the device doesnot have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device" so buddy apps cant be moved to sd card unless you root the phone.

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NexGen said:
Bro I from India and the model available here that i bought is the LG L9 p765. Bro 4GB Internal memory was enough for me so was not using memory card as of now dont Know about app2sd transfer is Possible or not. allow me couple of hours time, ill use my fathers sd card n try to move apps in it n let U know

Hey congrats bro. I Am Sure u must b enjoying d new ossum l9 like me.

ive just downloaded the apps2sd app from play store. Tried to move apps using this app from internal memory to sd card but getting message as "the device doesnot have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device" so buddy apps cant be moved to sd card unless you root the phone.

ok, thanks for the replies...

^Ultimate~Master said:
And is it true that after android 4.0.4, you cannot use apps2sd?!

I thought this was a problem with the LG Phone only, Apps2SD shows an error

This device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to external SD function may not be supported by this device.

Edit : Yes so you are limited to installing apps on your internal memory only, but there is a fix available which exchanges your external memory with internal ( your SD Card will show as internal memory), but it requires rooting of your phone.

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simply use the 4GB or whatever space is free for storing and transferring apps. memory card for everything else.

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Sam said:
simply use the 4GB or whatever space is free for storing and transferring apps. memory card for everything else.

4 GB ( 2.33 GB available ) is too less space for all those HD games .

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mitraark said:
I thought this was a problem with the LG Phone only, Apps2SD shows an error

Edit : Yes so you are limited to installing apps on your internal memory only, but there is a fix available which exchanges your external memory with internal ( your SD Card will show as internal memory), but it requires rooting of your phone.

So, i guess, if i have 2 install a few HD games i will have to root my phone! Will it (rooting) make my phone warranty void?

^Ultimate~Master said:
So, i guess, if i have 2 install a few HD games i will have to root my phone! Will it (rooting) make my phone warranty void?

Yes.

But no phone under 20k has a larger than 8GB memory(except pantech burst, but that's a whole another story).

tkin said:
Yes.

But no phone under 20k has a larger than 8GB memory(except pantech burst, but that's a whole another story).

MEMORY AND STORAGE
Internal 16 GB

11.3GB accessible. around 2-3GB for apps.

source: flipkart | gsmarena | my guide

Sam said:
11.3GB accessible. around 2-3GB for apps.

source: flipkart | gsmarena | my guide

My bad.