Need to get laptop for development purpose for college friend

I need to get my friend best laptop around 50k (but with little comprom11111ise, so can extend a bit), so that he can then sell me his laptop 2nd hand to me.

1) What is your budget? (INR or USD)
Rs 50k was initial (but looks like it will be compromise). So extended till 65k.

2) What size & weight consideration (if any) would you prefer?

Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen

3) What are the primary tasks you will be performing with this notebook?
Programming like, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Android development etc

5) Any typical configuration in your mind you're eying for ?
Best processor, SSD, can compromise on GPU if that makes huge difference in price

4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
a. Like: None
b. Dislike: None

6) Anything else you would like to say?

Screen resolution: 1080p (Full HD)
Battery back up): Shouldn't be a concern
Purchase place: Online, offline wherever can get best deal, India of course if offline

So far I have shortlisted following few models (they are 1050 based, and a bit on higher side):
ASUS/ FX504GD-E4363TD
HP Pavilion Notebook 15-bc406TX 2018
Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-51

Also one important question:
My friend doesn't game much, but is gaming GPU important for future proofing? Or can we save some money by opting to compromise on GPU?

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Delete hp if you want peace of mind after sales service. Look for the dell one's in that range.
In that budget don't expect a good gpu.
Where's your Excel?

billubakra said:
Delete hp if you want peace of mind after sales service. Look for the dell one's in that range.
In that budget don't expect a good gpu.
Where's your Excel?

My excel contained those 3 laptops only.
What about my other questions? Do I really need a GPU though? His requirement is not gaming. But we only want a GPU if it helps futureproofing. Else even 1050 is overkill.

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Vyom said:
My excel contained those 3 laptops only.
What about my other questions? Do I really need a GPU though? His requirement is not gaming. But we only want a GPU if it helps futureproofing. Else even 1050 is overkill.

I would say forget about the gpu and focus on things like ssd, ram, processor etc. in that budget. Gpu alone won't help in futureproofing.

Dropping GPU, and limiting budget I have found this good Lenovo ideapad laptop. Although it also don't have SSD, but it looks promising at under Rs 50k.

Lenovo ideapad 330E 15.6-inch Laptop

8th Gen Intel Core i5 - 8250U Processor (1.6 GHz base frequency, up to 3.4 GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
8 GB DDR4 RAM
2TB 5400 rpm Hard drive
15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) with 180⁰ hinge
2GB Graphics (AMD Radeon 530 GDDR5)
Free Windows 10 Home Operating System
Weighs only 2.2 Kg with Dolby Audio Speaker

Edit: Nevermind, it doesn't have fHD screen. That's bad.

Another option:
Lenovo Ideapad 530S-14IKB 81EU007VIN

Intel I5-8250U 8th Gen processor
8GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB SSD hard drive
14-inch Full HD screen, IPS Antiglare display
Windows 10 Home High End IN App AFO operating system
NVidia GeForce MX150 (2G GDDR5) Graphics
Preinstalled Office Home & Student 2016

Nothing better than ASUS/ FX504GD-E4363TD comes to mind.

no paytmmall plz

Nerevarine said:
no paytmmall plz

Why?

Damn, Indian laptop market is always miserable to look at. And I will also suggest you to stay away from MSI, they might give decent config but the laptop won't survive after 1 yr. Have heard this from close friends.

Ok. No reply yet on the actual laptop chosen. I guess I have selected a good laptop, that of ASUS.

Calling amigos: @whitestar_999 @Desmond David @topgear gameranand

@Minion
@SaiyanGoku
@anupam_pb
Help here ??

Don't go for ULV ones. If he can import, he can easily get a Dell G series or Asus FX series laptop with i7 8750H, 16GB ram, 256-512 GB ssd + 1tb hdd and 1050/ti for around 900$. IIRC they both have international warranty.

No we can't import. We are already stretching our budget with the model we selected.

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Vyom said:
Ok. No reply yet on the actual laptop chosen. I guess I have selected a good laptop, that of ASUS.

Good choice.

Vyom said:
No we can't import. We are already stretching our budget with the model we selected.

I meant import through a friend

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If it is not possible to get some friend from USA to bring laptop then that asus one looks good but do check it in an asus exclusive showroom first.You may even get some extended warranty offer which is a must have when buying such expensive laptops(aim for at least 1+1 years warranty with ADP as bonus if possible).

Vyom said:
My friend doesn't game much, but is gaming GPU important for future proofing? Or can we save some money by opting to compromise on GPU?

Good GPU isn't required for futureproofing if you don't game. It would be a good cost-cutting method but sadly GTX 1050 & MX150 powered laptops cost almost similar to 1050Ti ones during a sale, so not a huge saving.

This is the one I'm talking about:
Asus TUF Core i5 8th Gen - (8 GB/1 TB HDD/128 GB SSD/Windows 10 Home/4 GB Graphics) FX504GE-E4366T Gaming Laptop Rs.69990 Price in India - Buy Asus TUF Core i5 8th Gen - (8 GB/1 TB HDD/128 GB SSD/Windows 10 Home/4 GB Graphics) FX504GE-E4366T Gaming Laptop Black Metal Online - Asus : Flipkart.com

Acc. to flipkart, the i5 + 1050 model has a 120Hz panel, that's why its priced similar to 1050Ti model which has 60Hz display.

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I would suggest
Acer Nitro 5 Core i5 7th Gen - (8 GB/1 TB HDD/Windows 10 Home/2 GB Graphics) AN515-51 Gaming Laptop (15.6 inch, Black, 2.7 kg)
Acer Nitro 5 Core i5 7th Gen - (8 GB/1 TB HDD/Windows 10 Home/2 GB Graphics) AN515-51 Gaming Laptop Rs.58990 Price in India - Buy Acer Nitro 5 Core i5 7th Gen - (8 GB/1 TB HDD/Windows 10 Home/2 GB Graphics) AN515-51 Gaming Laptop Black Online - Acer : Flipkart.com

Yes, importing by any means is not possible.

As for warranty, yes, ASUS is providing 2 years additional warranty (total of 3 years) from it's website (asuspromo.in) as a promotion (valid till Sep end) if we pay Rs 1499.

And yes, the laptop is 60 or 120 Hz display depending on model.

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Then definitely get that extended warranty,it's a shame that they aren't giving ADP(accidental damage protection) too in this extended warranty else it would have been perfect.

Yes, accidental protection should have been perfect. But maybe that's why they didn't give. They don't like to be perfect.

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They used to give it in 2016.My friend laptop fell from bed & even though screen didn't break there was some internal issue where screen will always blink when on battery power but got it replaced under ADP as I doubt usual warranty cover physical damage(though screen has no sign of physical damage but the hinge had).

Indians exploit ADP like hell. I have seen many such instances in my college with people having Dell & Lenovo laptops. Once I asked Lenovo to replace my laptop's screen due to dead pixels, they weren't ready to do that. The service center guy indirectly told me to break the screen & avail ADP

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Damn, that's bad. If salesman exploits ADP like this, it was bound to get removed.

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whitestar_999 said:
They used to give it in 2016.My friend laptop fell from bed & even though screen didn't break there was some internal issue where screen will always blink when on battery power but got it replaced under ADP as I doubt usual warranty cover physical damage(though screen has no sign of physical damage but the hinge had).

anupam_pb said:
Indians exploit ADP like hell. I have seen many such instances in my college with people having Dell & Lenovo laptops. Once I asked Lenovo to replace my laptop's screen due to dead pixels, they weren't ready to do that. The service center guy indirectly told me to break the screen & avail ADP

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Vyom said:
Damn, that's bad. If salesman exploits ADP like this, it was bound to get removed.

My Harassment-Packard laptop with ADP had a graphic driver software related issue which users worldwide were having. Their clueless cs replaced the mobo twice but the issue was still there. Finally they replaced the unit under doa but still the issue was there. The replaced unit's keyboard wasn't working well. So, the guy who came to check it sent the concerned photos of some other unit's broken keyboard and my keyboard was replaced. He said that they don't need my keyboard back and they are supposed to discard it. Extended warranty is a joke, only software related issues are covered and that too a few. All oem's have stopped ADP nowadays.

So extended warranty is a joke, and ADP is not provided. Guess we are just screwed.
Another reason why I don't prefer laptop myself. :lol:

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Vyom said:
So extended warranty is a joke, and ADP is not provided. Guess we are just screwed.
Another reason why I don't prefer laptop myself.

You can always insure your laptop, that will cover all physical damages

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Vyom said:
So extended warranty is a joke, and ADP is not provided. Guess we are just screwed.
Another reason why I don't prefer laptop myself.

Well it depends.e.g.someone putting laptop under extreme usage conditions for long durations may cause failure of motherboard/gfx card which would then be covered under extended warranty assuming one didn't get a faulty unit to begin with.

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whitestar_999 said:
Well it depends.e.g.someone putting laptop under extreme usage conditions for long durations may cause failure of motherboard/gfx card which would then be covered under extended warranty assuming one didn't get a faulty unit to begin with.

The replacement of a part is covered under 1 year standard warranty. What these companies are doing nowadays is that only software support is there in extended warranty cases, it might not be true for some specific oems but most of them are doing this only.

Even I think that the extended warranties are actually extended standard warranty. At least that's what I bought from Dell 2+ years ago. Not sure if companies started to fool customers recently with software support as an extended warranty.

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First time I am hearing anything like this, can you quote this from any manufacturer's extended warranty terms & conditions to back this because I don't think its possible. First of all not all laptops come with pre-installed windows in which case there can never be "software support" because OS is the most basic software(installing your own OS means your own responsibility). In fact many laptop manufacturers clearly states that warranty covers only hardware & not software especially in case of no preinstalled windows laptops.

Yes, if only software support is being covered in extended warranty, that's just a waste of any extended warranty cost.

There should be fine print about it somewhere.

Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk

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whitestar_999 said:
First time I am hearing anything like this, can you quote this from any manufacturer's extended warranty terms & conditions to back this because I don't think its possible. First of all not all laptops come with pre-installed windows in which case there can never be "software support" because OS is the most basic software(installing your own OS means your own responsibility). In fact many laptop manufacturers clearly states that warranty covers only hardware & not software especially in case of no preinstalled windows laptops.

Remember my Harassment Pacakard threads? Got to know this from them. Heard the same from a person owning a Lenovo laptop also.

Vyom said:
Yes, if only software support is being covered in extended warranty, that's just a waste of any extended warranty cost.

There should be fine print about it somewhere.

Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk

Please ask the website/shop for a copy of the terms and conditions.

So my friend ordered ASUS TUF FX504GD-E4363T on 3rd september and have already received the unit. He's happy with the purchase. Thanks guys for the fruitful discussions.

billubakra said:
Please ask the website/shop for a copy of the terms and conditions.

The T&C section of the site www.asuspromo.in says that ADP is not included. But says no details about what is covered in the extended warranty.

Vyom said:
So my friend ordered ASUS TUF FX504GD-E4363T on 3rd september and have already received the unit. He's happy with the purchase. Thanks guys for the fruitful discussions.

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The T&C section of the site www.asuspromo.in says that ADP is not included. But says no details about what is covered in the extended warranty.

Cost? At 68k or so you can get its 1050Ti model as I said earlier.

anupam_pb said:
Cost? At 68k or so you can get its 1050Ti model as I said earlier.

Rs 67,699 - 5% discount = 64,314.

Didn't get the Ti version since budget was already too stretched. Besides gaming wasn't the point. 1050 is enough.

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Vyom said:
So my friend ordered ASUS TUF FX504GD-E4363T on 3rd september and have already received the unit. He's happy with the purchase. Thanks guys for the fruitful discussions.

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The T&C section of the site www.asuspromo.in says that ADP is not included. But says no details about what is covered in the extended warranty.

Congrats. Please mark a mail to Asus India for a copy of the terms and conditions.

billubakra said:
Congrats. Please mark a mail to Asus India for a copy of the terms and conditions.

Just emailed them. Let's see if they reply.

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^^I think the T&C will be given in the pdf document one receive after purchasing & redeeming the extended warranty offer(at least that was the case for my friend back in 2016).

Vyom said:
Rs 67,699 - 5% discount = 64,314.

Didn't get the Ti version since budget was already too stretched. Besides gaming wasn't the point. 1050 is enough.

It should have a 120Hz display then, just check it. The 120Hz panel has better color reproduction & contrast compared to the 60Hz one.

The 1050Ti one was on sale for 65k several times, few times during Fridays as well.

Got it?
If no, have a look at Mi Laptop Pro through Gearbest.com

Neo said:
Got it?
If no, have a look at Mi Laptop Pro through Gearbest.com

Yes he got the laptop from Amazon.

Neo said:
Got it?
If no, have a look at Mi Laptop Pro through Gearbest.com

Not worth buying in any case. No warranty & no after sales are a big no for laptops.