Net Neutrality Discussion

What is Net Neutrality and why is it important to all of us?

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Just like Comcast, Airtel is planning on violating Net Neutrality by introducing Airtel Zero. A service wherein end users would be able to access services by Airtel partners free of charge by allowing these partners to buy data from Airtel for this purpose. Which means that your access to services other than those or Airtel's partners would be solely at the discretion of Airtel. They would get the power to slow down the traffic to competitor services forcing you to use their partner services.

If such a plan were to succeed, the internet would be at the mercy of a few powerful players. ISPs would become the kingmakers, deciding who gets to run on their networks and who doesn't, subject to who pays up. Larger corporations who could afford their fees would run amok while start ups who can't afford it would run the risk of their projects not getting the traffic they deserve. This is totally unjust and against a free internet.

This thread is dedicated to voice your opinions about Net Neutrality and share news and updates regarding the developments on this front.

Shoot!

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A sample Net Neutrality law as drafted by members of /r/india: *docs.google.com/document/d/14F8Tg2yw5FiqzvQWRG_xl9CRy69sU95OSmIgisJj6Qw/edit?usp=sharing

Resources:

Save The Internet!

Supporting Net Neutrality.
Down with Airtel Zero!!!!!

I support it and now hating airtel even more.

Net Neutrality: What You Need to Know Now | Free Press

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When they (TRAI) are taking decision about this???

No idea, they are just taking peoples opinions for now.

*www.change.org/p/rsprasad-trai-don...e-how-they-want-to-use-internet-netneutrality

Its time we should get rid of Airtel and its idiotic ideas.

Support Net Neutrality

Seems Vodafone will also Airtel's way.
Network neutrality - Vodafone

amit.tiger12 said:
When they (TRAI) are taking decision about this???

They are taking the public's opinion till 24th April, after which they will decide. Not sure about the exact date of decision.

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^ohk

A tale of how Airtel throttled bandwidth of Ogle, a video sharing startup.

Net Neutrality: Did Airtel Broadband throttle video startup Ogle? - MediaNama

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Also a Net Neutrality law drafted by members of /r/india:

*docs.google.com/document/d/14F8Tg2yw5FiqzvQWRG_xl9CRy69sU95OSmIgisJj6Qw/edit

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I condemn Airtel's new money making plan.. AIRTEL ZERO. Let they get as minimum support from we Indians as their plan itself says (Zero). I support net neutrality.

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These guys made a (somewhat cheesy) video highlighting net neutrality's analogy to electricity.

Ain't airtel was the one who introduced those whatsapp and facebook data pack

They tried but because of public outcry, they put it on hold until TRAI introduced some regulations regarding the same. Airtel Zero is probably a result of the same just under a new name.

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BTW, Reddit India gets Mozilla India to support their campaign for Net Neutrality.

*twitter.com/MozillaIN/status/586245006228336640

@gameranand - I guess, you're among this one, though you cancelled the order with this comment.

indiatoday said:
In the wake of the alleged deal between Flipkart and Airtel for a new program called Airtel Zero, which offers free access to Flipkart's mobile app, it appears consumers have started retaliating against the e-tailer.

After the deal, which goes against the idea of net neutrality, users have started rating the Flipkart app on Android '1 star'.
A number of users have given the app poor reviews on the basis of the net neutrality debate. Many have used the header - Net Neutrality matters.

Read more at: Consumers downvote Flipkart app after net neutrality controversy : News, News - India Today

Guys writing here that you support Net Neutrality won't do anything. You need to act, spread the word and Email to TRAI with counter comment for their 20 questions. I can provide sample answers link from Reddit India as well, you can just edit some sentences and send them to TRAI email ID.
Please do this before 24 April 2015.

I made this thread so that people can better understand what Net Neutrality is and make better arguments when the topic comes up.

can I get that 20 question list I will send it to some of my friends.

$hadow said:
can I get that 20 question list I will send it to some of my friends.

Here you go and with sample answers.
*www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/30ter5/reply_to_trai_draft_1_reddit_india_made_net/

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*www.change.org/p/rsprasad-trai-don...book_responsive&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-no_msg

I signed this petition.will this help??

Cruzy said:
*www.change.org/p/rsprasad-trai-don...book_responsive&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-no_msg

I signed this petition.will this help??

Yeah I signed that too, I did the Flipkart and Airtel app review too, which gameranand posted here, originally from reddit. That's all I can do for the time being, don't know whether either will help, but I just know I had to do that.

too bad to see they still did not reached their targeted goal of 150000. Just spread the link through all of your social media accounts.

gameranand said:
Here you go and with sample answers.
*www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/30ter5/reply_to_trai_draft_1_reddit_india_made_net/

Thanks, I forwarded it to 25 people. Hope I made a slight difference.

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SAVE THE INTERNET :-D

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#SaveTheInternet

topgear said:
too bad to see they still did not reached their targeted goal of 150000. Just spread the link through all of your social media accounts.

I don't think signing these pledges will work at all. Instead we need to send the email to trai.

I'd say just head over to Save The Internet! and you need to compose the mail. Answers are pre-populated there.

Done.

krishnandu.sarkar said:
I don't think signing these pledges will work at all. Instead we need to send the email to trai.

I'd say just head over to Save The Internet! and you need to compose the mail. Answers are pre-populated there.

but singing pledges actually did work in some cases.

topgear said:
but singing pledges actually did work in some cases.

Singing??

Add Save The Internet! to the first post.

krishnandu.sarkar said:
I don't think signing these pledges will work at all. Instead we need to send the email to trai.

I'd say just head over to Save The Internet! and you need to compose the mail. Answers are pre-populated there.

Perfect... Done!!!

topgear said:
but singing pledges actually did work in some cases.

Yeah, but here in this case, TRAI wants people to email them. That's why I believe it's best to send them e-mail.

^^True that.

krishnandu.sarkar said:
Yeah, but here in this case, TRAI wants people to email them. That's why I believe it's best to send them e-mail.

done .

krishnandu.sarkar said:
I don't think signing these pledges will work at all. Instead we need to send the email to trai.

I'd say just head over to Save The Internet! and you need to compose the mail. Answers are pre-populated there.

I recommend this, as I just sent a message to them. There is nothing to be done from our side, well except the need to read the message itself.

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Makx said:
Add Save The Internet! to the first post.

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[MENTION=5007]DeSmOnD dAvId[/MENTION] should do this

Done.

Done from my end.

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Sent the email from save the internet.in page

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The email i sent bounced back meaning not delivered. All the mass mail sent must be going straight to the spam box. I don't think this method is effective.

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Mine didn't. Atleast we as concerned netizens can try and hope that this Draconian law doesn't come to fruitation :-(

Has anyone checked out AIB video.I just spammed it on all of my social networking.

True, the mail bounced back... but the one meant for the recipient of BCC

*i.imgur.com/AKwwPHW.png

Made some friends sign up the petition and change their fb profile pic to this ..
*i.imgur.com/DzGiA4P.jpg?1

Hope all this doesnt go waste..

A friend's post on facebook

If you really wanna make people realize how big of a deal ‪#‎NetNeutrality‬ is, tell them how its loss is going to affect their access to porn! That oughta do it!

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Ha ha.
That will put people of their rockers!!!
Lol

Exclusive: Flipkart Pulls Out of Airtel Zero Partnership! Â» NextBigWhat

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Is this news true???
If so, keep in sending mails people!!!
It will work

1.5lac mails sent untill last update.

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That's good news

Now start downvoting Facebook and Google related products in Play Store and Apple App Store. Don't know how much this would effect, but peoples will notice.

I guess the cheque wasn't enough for Mr. Bansal. In any case it's a good news. Will probably install back FK app and change the rating.

ithehappy said:
I guess the cheque wasn't enough for Mr. Bansal. In any case it's a good news. Will probably install back FK app and change the rating.

I did it too

But the sad part is most *educated* internet users still do not get the story behind it. They are happy *typical indian mentality* of getting free apps.

*i.imgur.com/iYwICo5.jpg

*i.imgur.com/uySEDMY.jpg

True brother. I am just glad even with this type of people we were able to establish at least something. Flipkart stopping support should just be the start, this ****ing Zero project should have a future like Ground Zero of NYC! ****ing *******s.

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Why we need discussion for net neutrality.??? we need actions...
and How this free things (like internet.org) comes into discussion??

free things is different and net neutrality is different...tell that ankit kumar (facebook commenter) #53

amit.tiger12 said:
Why we need discussion for net neutrality.??? we need actions...
and How this free things (like internet.org) comes into discussion??

free things is different and net neutrality is different...tell that ankit kumar (facebook commenter) #53

I have already given him the link of Reddit India and AIB Video. Hope that helps him understand the actual issue.

Well, looks like Facebook's hydra has grown a new head called Free Basics. Basically a new avatar of Internet.org.

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That's true..
And those ad's on the newspaper.
Didn't know fb was this desperate to get data on another billion users!!

FB wants to become worlds largest marketing platform and with that comes huge amount of $$$. So they will stop at nothing unless it's users think otherwise or change to a different platform.

Google Plus is still trying new techniques to make itself a Hot cake.
LOL !