New Gaming Rig Under 70K

I need to build PC as current one has started having frequent crashes.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.' Vague answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work.)
Ans: This PC will be for gaming purpose only. I play FPS games like Doom, Call of Duty, Counter-Strike etc.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then please mention.
Ans: 70K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes, but in future.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10.

5. How much hard drive / solid-state drive space is needed?
Ans: No HDD needed for now, but will buy SSD.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention the screen size and resolution you prefer. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, then do mention the screen size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans:No Monitor needed.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy? i.e. which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I have Seasonic S|| 520 W power supply and will be using my Antec GX 700 cabinet.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: ASAP

9. Have you ever built a desktop before? Or, will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:Yes, I have built PC two times.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I will buy it from both online and Nehru Palace, wherever I can get cheaper.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I have always used AMD, but now wherever I check everyone is suggesting Intel any specific reason.

CPU - Intel i5 12400F - 15k
Mobo - Gigabyte B660M DS3H - 10k
RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3600MHz C18 - 6.4k
GPU - Asus/MSI/Zotac/Gigabyte RTX 3060 or Sapphire RX6600XT/6650XT - 38-40k
M.2 SSD - WD SN570 500GB - 4.2k
HDD - None
PSU - Yours
Cabinet - Yours
Monitor - None

Total - 75.6k

For saving money, get RX 6600 for 32k:
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 Graphic Card DUAL-RX6600-8G

Cabinet - Ant ICE 311MT - 3.6k
PSU - Deepcool PM650D 80+ Gold - 4.9k

Advantages of RTX 3060, better performance relative to AMD at 2Kor 4K, also DLSS is helpful at those resolution.

omega44-xt said:
CPU - Intel i5 12400F - 15k
Mobo - Gigabyte B660M DS3H - 10k
RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3600MHz C18 - 6.4k
GPU - Asus/MSI/Zotac/Gigabyte RTX 3060 or Sapphire RX6600XT/6650XT - 38-40k
M.2 SSD - WD SN570 500GB - 4.2k
HDD - None
PSU - Yours
Cabinet - Yours
Monitor - None

Total - 75.6k

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For saving money, get RX 6600 for 32k:
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 Graphic Card DUAL-RX6600-8G

Cabinet - Ant ICE 311MT - 3.6k
PSU - Deepcool PM650D 80+ Gold - 4.9k

Advantages of RTX 3060, better performance relative to AMD at 2Kor 4K, also DLSS is helpful at those resolution.

Also AMD cards don't support Tensorflow like AI ML frameworks since many AI ML frameworks need CUDA .

omega44-xt said:
CPU - Intel i5 12400F - 15k
Mobo - Gigabyte B660M DS3H - 10k
RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3600MHz C18 - 6.4k
GPU - Asus/MSI/Zotac/Gigabyte RTX 3060 or Sapphire RX6600XT/6650XT - 38-40k
M.2 SSD - WD SN570 500GB - 4.2k
HDD - None
PSU - Yours
Cabinet - Yours
Monitor - None

Total - 75.6k

View attachment 21522

For saving money, get RX 6600 for 32k:
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 Graphic Card DUAL-RX6600-8G

Cabinet - Ant ICE 311MT - 3.6k
PSU - Deepcool PM650D 80+ Gold - 4.9k

Advantages of RTX 3060, better performance relative to AMD at 2Kor 4K, also DLSS is helpful at those resolution.

Thanks for configuration, I have checked and Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 5 5600X are of same price , is it advisable to go with a configuration based on these.

Garv1386 said:
Thanks for configuration, I have checked and Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 5 5600X are of same price , is it advisable to go with a configuration based on these.

5600G is inferior to 5600X & i5 12400 in every way. If you want iGPU, get i5 12400 instead of 12400F, costs 1.5-2k more.
Note: Without dGPU, PC won't work with 5600X or 12400F

5600X is slightly better than i5 12400, like 5% better, but 12400F costs 15k & 5600X is 21k in most places, no point spending 6k extra on 5600X. If you are into gaming, jump up to 6650XT for 41-42k to see some uplift in fps.

Check prices for 3060Ti as well, some sellers had it for 45k. Would be a great choice at that price. 3070 starts at 55k these days. What resolution are you targeting?

MSI Radeon RX 6600 XT Mech 2X 8G OC GDDR6
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6650 XT OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 Graphic Card DUAL-RX6650XT-O8G

Check sellers from this group:
AkExtacY - Cheapest PC Parts Marketplace | Facebook

Please suggest a AMD based configuration as well.

CPU - R5 5600X - 20k
Mobo - MSI B550M Pro VDH WiFi - 11k

So 6k extra over Intel config., won't see any noticeable gains over i5 with a mid-range system. Maybe with RTX 3070, you might start seeing 5% fps gains, not with a lower GPU.

omega44-xt said:
CPU - R5 5600X - 20k
Mobo - MSI B550M Pro VDH WiFi - 11k

So 6k extra over Intel config., won't see any noticeable gains over i5 with a mid-range system. Maybe with RTX 3070, you might start seeing 5% fps gains, not with a lower GPU.

Thanks for configuration, i know you are suggesting what is best and appreciate it. But my brother and me decided to stick with AMD.

Any better processor range to be launched in future?

Garv1386 said:
Thanks for configuration, i know you are suggesting what is best and appreciate it. But my brother and me decided to stick with AMD.

Any better processor range to be launched in future?

7000 series is coming with new socket and seems to be 15 % increase in single core performance , pic 5.0 , ddr5 ram and very good increase in multi core performance when compared with previous generation

But you need to wait until 2023 beginning to get in high prices

above is the another negative point of buying AMD right now. They had advantage of same socket for last few years but next gen will have different socket so a upgrade for AMD setup ends. If anyone wants to upgrade to 7xxx series then they need to change Mobo+RAM as well.
Intel config suggested by Omega is solid and make sense. Unless there is going to be AMD specific use cases, there is no point in building AMD setup, specially for gaming. Better to use the available budget on a GPU.

Garv1386 said:
Thanks for configuration, i know you are suggesting what is best and appreciate it. But my brother and me decided to stick with AMD.

Any better processor range to be launched in future?

See this video :

12400F is faster in Gaming than 5600x with lower price, and in some benchmark 12400F is 5% faster or equal

So if you buying right now, then go for 12400F .

Waiting for 7000 series is good since I am also to upgrade my desktop but since it's not urgent, I am waiting for 7000 series.

But it seems to urgent for you by your original post starting lines

If yes , go with 12400F

Garv1386 said:
Thanks for configuration, i know you are suggesting what is best and appreciate it. But my brother and me decided to stick with AMD.

Any better processor range to be launched in future?

Not anytime soon for budget users, at least a wait till Q1 2023. If buying 5600X, prefer AMD GPU as well, esp if the gaming resolution will be 1080p to take advantage of SAM.

I personally didn't buy 5600X because i5 was just cheaper with similar performance.

Thinking of buying this from facebook.

Will current motherboard support DDR5 RAM?

Garv1386 said:
Thinking of buying this from facebook.

Will current motherboard support DDR5 RAM?

Price?

The i5 12400 or R5 5600X comes very close to 3800 in MC performance & outperforms it in gaming performance. 1070Ti performs like RTX 2060, so inferior to RX 6600 which is actually similar to RTX 2070. Not to forget those are old parts to begin with.

For DDR5 RAM you need DDR5 mobo. DDR5 RAM is expensive & not worth the cost right now.

Garv1386 said:
Thinking of buying this from facebook.

Will current motherboard support DDR5 RAM?

What's the price of that 1070ti in the list ?

omega44-xt said:
Price?

The i5 12400 or R5 5600X comes very close to 3800 in MC performance & outperforms it in gaming performance. 1070Ti performs like RTX 2060, so inferior to RX 6600 which is actually similar to RTX 2070. Not to forget those are old parts to begin with.

For DDR5 RAM you need DDR5 mobo. DDR5 RAM is expensive & not worth the cost right now.

60K complete Configuration

RageshAntony said:
What's the price of that 1070ti in the list ?

Will ask the price for 1070Ti, though he is not interested in selling it in parts

Garv1386 said:
60K complete Configuration

Easy, no. Build i5 12400F + RX 6600 instead at 70k. You need a 2nd 8GB stick as well in that used config & most importantly those are used parts without warranty which can fail soon. People have been quoting a lot for used parts because of inflated GPU prices. Heck, an i3 12100 outperforms R7 3800X slightly for gaming these days.

Garv1386 said:
Will ask the price for 1070Ti, though he is not interested in selling it in parts

Okay.

And ....

If 1070ti performance is equal to 2060 , then even a new piece is only worth for 12k .

Because 2060 reached as low as 25k , when prices are somewhat normal 2 years ago , so it's correct price now is 18k only , so it's equivalent previous gen 1070ti must 12k for new one .

So get if he sells for 8k !!!

But since he not sell in parts , buy @Omega suggestions

Please suggest another B660 motherboard as Gigabyte one is either unavailable or costing around 12K.

How to check. If motherboard support DDR5, as I read that B660 does support DDR5 and 13th gen CPU.

Also read somewhere that B660 doesn't support overclocking.

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Garv1386 said:
Please suggest another B660 motherboard as Gigabyte one is either unavailable or costing around 12K.

How to check. If motherboard support DDR5, as I read that B660 does support DDR5 and 13th gen CPU.

Also read somewhere that B660 doesn't support overclocking.

B660 may not support ddr5 but will support 13th gen with bios update when it will come.

Garv1386 said:
Please suggest another B660 motherboard as Gigabyte one is either unavailable or costing around 12K.

How to check. If motherboard support DDR5, as I read that B660 does support DDR5 and 13th gen CPU.

Also read somewhere that B660 doesn't support overclocking.

MSI B660M A Pro for 14/15 depending on WiFi. Best budget B660M, will even handle i7 12700. Do not get DDR5 variant of B660 mobo, they exist. But your budget is limited & DDR5 is a waste of money for majority of users.

@OP: how old is that s12II 520 psu of yours?is it still working fine?

quicky008 said:
@OP: how old is that s12II 520 psu of yours?is it still working fine?

It's old but it's still working fine

Will be visiting Nehru place market on Saturday and also planning to buy from Clarion computers, see where i get better deal

Garv1386 said:
Will be visiting Nehru place market on Saturday and also planning to buy from Clarion computers, see where i get better deal

Clarion is in Kolkata from what I know.

omega44-xt said:
Clarion is in Kolkata from what I know.

Yes, Clarion is in Kolkata, but they do have a website and provide shipping.

*shop.clarioncomputers.in/

Garv1386 said:
Yes, Clarion is in Kolkata, but they do have a website and provide shipping.

*shop.clarioncomputers.in/

Since your statement started with you visiting Nehru Place, I thought you were planning to visit Clarion's shop. I knew they ship items.

Went to Nehru place and shopkeeper there said for my setup i need a 650 W power supply, my Seasonic 520 W is insufficient but pcpartpicker show total requirement of only 410 W, please suggest

Garv1386 said:
Went to Nehru place and shopkeeper there said for my setup i need a 650 W power supply, my Seasonic 520 W is insufficient but pcpartpicker show total requirement of only 410 W, please suggest

It should be ok:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Family
*www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6650-xt
3060 recommends 550W, but for gaming 500W should be fine as well. You will not be using a power intensive CPU as well.

If you want a new one, can consider the one I recommended earlier, PM650D.

Garv1386 said:
Went to Nehru place and shopkeeper there said for my setup i need a 650 W power supply, my Seasonic 520 W is insufficient but pcpartpicker show total requirement of only 410 W, please suggest

I use a 6 year old Seasonic SS620 for my 5800x + 1070 build. You'd be fine with the 520.

mitraark said:
I use a 6 year old Seasonic SS620 for my 5800x + 1070 build. You'd be fine with the 520.

Do you mean s12ii 620?

Its surprising to see these older psus doing so well even with newer pcs, given that they were generally regarded as unreliable for being based on an older group regulated design.

quicky008 said:
Do you mean s12ii 620?

Its surprising to see these older psus doing so well even with newer pcs, given that they were generally regarded as unreliable for being based on an older group regulated design.

Yes Seasonic S12ii 620. You have take such criticisms with a pinch of salt, most reviews are now paid for marketing purposes.

Hi All,

Bought below components today, will buy graphics card after couple of months.

Ryzen 5 5600X - 16500
MSi B550M PRO VDH Wifi - 10200
Gskil 8x2 3600 MHZ - 5500
WD SN570 250 GB - 3000
TAG Blaze RGB Mouse - 500

Will use Zotak GTX 660 for time being

Nice! Prices also are good! What GPU are you planning to buy? or you plan to wait for next gen GPUs?

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Garv1386 said:
Hi All,

Bought below components today, will buy graphics card after couple of months.

Ryzen 5 5600X - 16500
MSi B550M PRO VDH Wifi - 10200
Gskil 8x2 3600 MHZ - 5500
WD SN570 250 GB - 3000
TAG Blaze RGB Mouse - 500

Will use Zotak GTX 660 for time being

Why didn't u bought i5 12400?

sumit05 said:
Why didn't u bought i5 12400?

AMD was my first choice but the prices online showed that Intel build will be 3000 - 5000 cheaper but price difference i got today was only 1000 - 1200 so decided to go with AMD.

TheSloth said:
Nice! Prices also are good! What GPU are you planning to buy? or you plan to wait for next gen GPUs?

RX 6650 XT or RX 6600XT, may be a refurbished 3060, will wait for prices to drop as they are expected to drop in coming months

Garv1386 said:
Hi All,

Bought below components today, will buy graphics card after couple of months.

Ryzen 5 5600X - 16500
MSi B550M PRO VDH Wifi - 10200
Gskil 8x2 3600 MHZ - 5500
WD SN570 250 GB - 3000
TAG Blaze RGB Mouse - 500

Will use Zotak GTX 660 for time being

Wow
Good prices

Where do you bought this ?

RageshAntony said:
Wow
Good prices

Where do you bought this ?

From a retailer in Nehru place market, Delhi, DM me if need address and number

Like to Thank you all for support and guidance this forum has provided, it been years that i am member of this forum.

Hi All, need urgent suggestion my CPU was running with 2133 MHZ ram frequency as suggested by a youtuber i switched to XMP -2 profile now i am getting CPU temperature alert some time while starting pc and currently CPU core temperature is between 58 - 60 °C. Please suggest

Garv1386 said:
Hi All, need urgent suggestion my CPU was running with 2133 MHZ ram frequency as suggested by a youtuber i switched to XMP -2 profile now i am getting CPU temperature alert some time while starting pc and currently CPU core temperature is between 58 - 60 °C. Please suggest

60C idle is fine for the stock cooler of 5600X, it is not a good cooler. Get a new one, Deepcool AK400 will be more than enough for 2.5k.

Please suggest if Ant Esports ICE-C612 RGB is a good CPU Cooler

*mdcomputers.in/ant-esports-ice-c612-rgb.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Garv1386 said:
Please suggest if Ant Esports ICE-C612 RGB is a good CPU Cooler

*mdcomputers.in/ant-esports-ice-c612-rgb.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

For the price, should be ok.

I will prefer Deepcool though:
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