new ipods in india:8gb ipod touch 2g costs 14400

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apple launched its new ipod in india
*apple.co.in/ipodtouch/
*apple.co.in/ipodtouch/specs.html
they cost really high for some unknown reasons as compared to international prices
8gb ipod touch costs 14400/-(US price $229)

others models
nano 4g
8gb 9200/-
16gb 11,900/-

WTF!

I was expecting the 8gb Touch to be available for less than 10k. 14k is ridiculous. And the Nano prices are even more ridiculous! I should've known the low prices would be too good to be true.

But previously if i remember correctly it was 16k and now its 14k.. but its worth yar.. its like a BMW LOL

what.the.hell
my dreams of getting an ipod touch go down the drain.

at their actual price, they would have been a steal.
but 14.4k? not good at all..

gonna get one from bangkok then.
hmph.

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*www.techshout.com/ipod/2008/15/apple-introduces-updated-ipod-models-in-india/
*profit.ndtv.com/2008/09/15190513/a....html?id=3c9c8c01-307b-4759-aa4d-ddc7a7181521

8gb ipod would cost 15,100/- seems like old cost was without tax.All models will costs more than what i said earlier.

first way too costlier iphone and now costly ipods.yet another heart break to indian apple fans
anybody know why apple products costs way too high in india?

damn it. it just keeps on getting worse, doesnt it?

the way-too-costly iPhone can be sorta kinda justified cuz Airtel and Voda arent allowed to bind the customers under contract and hence, they cannot subsidise the phone...
but this is not right. Apple can atleast price the iPods right.

We have always had this step treatment from apple as far as pricing is concerned. But we are not the only ones(Europe

)

Btw, iPod touch 8 GB is $229 in US!

And I have heard people getting new ipod touches for 12-13k in grey before the price drop. I wont be surprised if you can now get it for 11k odd!

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pickster said:
damn it. it just keeps on getting worse, doesnt it?

the way-too-costly iPhone can be sorta kinda justified cuz Airtel and Voda arent allowed to bind the customers under contract and hence, they cannot subsidise the phone...
but this is not right. Apple can atleast price the iPods right.

yes things are getting worse

you might be correct about iphone price aspect but actually all apple products are lot costlier in india say about 20,30 percent higher than actual prices.even the old 8gb ipod touch was priced 17,500/- through apple stores.
Yes apple products are very good and they cost more than similar rival products but apple should not vary prices from country to country esp in india by that much margin

better buy nwz-a720. the rates are really messed up here.

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Pat said:
We have always had this step treatment from apple as far as pricing is concerned. But we are not the only ones(Europe )

Btw, iPod touch 8 GB is $229 in US!

And I have heard people getting new ipod touches for 12-13k in grey before the price drop. I wont be surprised if you can now get it for 11k odd!

even indiatimes,indiaplaza sold touches for 12-13k with bill
so expect to see low prices by them for new models

btw are ipods costs higher in europe too?just for comparison what is price of new models there?

in UK, 8 GB is £ 169.00 (inclusive of taxes)..
nearly equal to 14K.

prejudiced, much?

Its $229 in US and 219 Euros in Germany :lol:

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pickster you are right dude.we are not the only one,in all countries except us,ipod costs higher close to indian price(little higher or lower;varies from country to country)
e.g.in spain,italy touch costs 219 euroes which equals 14,544 rupees.

the.kaushik said:
But previously if i remember correctly it was 16k and now its 14k.. but its worth yar.. its like a BMW LOL

WTH, that's totally worthless for 14k. for 4k more you get a product like Cowon A3 which mercilessly kills this piece of ****.

Lol! The heights that people go to ridicule every product that is made by a company which they hate :lol:

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desiibond said:
WTH, that's totally worthless for 14k. for 4k more you get a product like Cowon A3 which mercilessly kills this piece of ****.

seems like this thread is becoming more like ipod touch vs others
but as i u have started i am really interested how A3 kills touch?

I must say even at this price touch 2g is a great product
I think both touch and A3 are targeted for different audience
touch 2g kills A3(in your language)in following aspects

1:Unmatched UI experience(Most important feature of touch from my point of view)
2:Great looks
3:Safari with wifi
4:The wow factor.
5:App store:applications and games.the true potential of touch's top hardware is yet reveal.Just go on you tube and watch video of NFS undercover on touch.At present also there are many exciting games.Seems like ipod touch is true portable gaming device.

The only drawback of old touch was its hissy SQ.but now with 2g its gone completely the 2g sounds great over complete spectrum.For me this makes touch as ultimate deivice

1235Sam said:
seems like this thread is becoming more like ipod touch vs others
but as i u have started i am really interested how A3 kills touch?

I must say even at this price touch 2g is a great product
I think both touch and A3 are targeted for different audience
touch 2g kills A3(in your language)in following aspects

1:Unmatched UI experience(Most important feature of touch from my point of view)
2:Great looks
3:Safari with wifi
4:The wow factor.
5:App store:applications and games.the true potential of touch's top hardware is yet reveal.Just go on you tube and watch video of NFS undercover on touch.At present also there are many exciting games.Seems like ipod touch is true portable gaming device.

The only drawback of old touch was its hissy SQ.but now with 2g its gone completely the 2g sounds great over complete spectrum.For me this makes touch as ultimate deivice

Totally agree... The display rocks.. A3 looks cheap yar

Here are the specs of A3:

1) 4 in., 800x480 resolution 16M color display.

2) Audio file formats supporte: MP3/2/1, WMA,ASF, FLAC, OGG, M4A, MATROSKA(MKA), AC3,TTA, APE, MPC, WV, WAV

3) Audio codecs : MPEG1 Layer 1/2/3, WMA, FLAC, OGG Vorbis, OGG FLAC, APPLELossless, AAC/AAC+, AC3, True Audio, Monkey Audio, MusePack, WavPack, G.726, PCM

4) Video file formats supported: AVI, WMV, ASF,MP4, MATROSKA(MKV), OGM, MPG/MPEG, DAT,MTV

5) Video codecs: DivX 3.11/4/5/6, XviD, MPEG-4 SP/ASP, WMV 9/8/7, H.264 MP, M-JPEG, MPEG 1

6) Photo viewer: JPG, GIF, PNG, TIF, BMP, RAW

7) Document viewer: CSD Viewer (Convert any printable formats such as PDF, DOC, PPT, XLS, HWP, GUL, HTML into CSD format)

8) inbuilt microphone, FM Radio, speaker.

9) LCD tv out, AV out, AV In, Composite/S-Video, USB Port

10 Package: Hi quality AV Cable, AV Cable, Poweradapter, USB Cable, headphones. Now, that means a lot unlike one manual, one proprietory cable, one headphone found in the box.

One feature that will kick ipod's butt is this: You have a DVD movie and you want to watch it on this player. You need not convert it to mpeg4. Dump the movie files into the player and just play it. No loss in quality

@kaushik, Looks are deceptive. Try A3 one time and you will know what a player should be.

1:Unmatched UI experience(Most important feature of touch from my point of view)
2:Great looks
3:Safari with wifi
4:The wow factor.
5:App store:

1) Take a look at Cowon UI and take a look at the amount of audio customization including the Jet Effect on Cowon's players
2) Watch a DVD quality video on A3 and watch the same converted to MPEG4. You will notice the real audio/visual quality of the player.
3) Ah. What is the user of Safari on ipod touch in India. Show me one public place where you can connect to internet from ipod touch.
4) wow factor. LOLZ. drool over it. Wait for 2-3hours just to convert a newly bought dvd to play it on touch. Go to friends house, no ituens, OMG, you can't do anything then. wow factor.
5) App Store. LOLZ. A PMP is first meant to play audio and video first. It's not for playing "Monkey Ball".

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desiibond said:
Here are the specs of A3:

1) 4 in., 800x480 resolution 16M color display.

2) Audio file formats supporte: MP3/2/1, WMA,ASF, FLAC, OGG, M4A, MATROSKA(MKA), AC3,TTA, APE, MPC, WV, WAV

3) Audio codecs : MPEG1 Layer 1/2/3, WMA, FLAC, OGG Vorbis, OGG FLAC, APPLELossless, AAC/AAC+, AC3, True Audio, Monkey Audio, MusePack, WavPack, G.726, PCM

4) Video file formats supported: AVI, WMV, ASF,MP4, MATROSKA(MKV), OGM, MPG/MPEG, DAT,MTV

5) Video codecs: DivX 3.11/4/5/6, XviD, MPEG-4 SP/ASP, WMV 9/8/7, H.264 MP, M-JPEG, MPEG 1

6) Photo viewer: JPG, GIF, PNG, TIF, BMP, RAW

7) Document viewer: CSD Viewer (Convert any printable formats such as PDF, DOC, PPT, XLS, HWP, GUL, HTML into CSD format)

8) inbuilt microphone, FM Radio, speaker.

9) LCD tv out, AV out, AV In, Composite/S-Video, USB Port

10 Package: Hi quality AV Cable, AV Cable, Poweradapter, USB Cable, headphones. Now, that means a lot unlike one manual, one proprietory cable, one headphone found in the box.

One feature that will kick ipod's butt is this: You have a DVD movie and you want to watch it on this player. You need not convert it to mpeg4. Dump the movie files into the player and just play it. No loss in quality

@kaushik, Looks are deceptive. Try A3 one time and you will know what a player should be.

1) Take a look at Cowon UI and take a look at the amount of audio customization including the Jet Effect on Cowon's players
2) Watch a DVD quality video on A3 and watch the same converted to MPEG4. You will notice the real audio/visual quality of the player.
3) Ah. What is the user of Safari on ipod touch in India. Show me one public place where you can connect to internet from ipod touch.
4) wow factor. LOLZ. drool over it. Wait for 2-3hours just to convert a newly bought dvd to play it on touch. Go to friends house, no ituens, OMG, you can't do anything then. wow factor.
5) App Store. LOLZ. A PMP is first meant to play audio and video first. It's not for playing "Monkey Ball".

1:You just cant compare cowon's ordinary UI with apple's multi touch UI.apple are far ahead of cowon as far as interface is concerned.dont forget touch has same UI as that of iphone.
2:What i meant to say is looks of player. cowon's 22 mm thick 280gm a3 looks brick and cheap in front of 8.5 mm 115gm touch
3:wifi is available in many public places(atleast in cities like pune,mumbai,banglore etc)
4:touch is pleasure to use.wow factor is uncomparable to A3.just bring out touch out of your pocket and use it.people will be amazed.what about A3;just another ordinary brick
5:these days devices becoming covergent.would you like to carry out dedicated handheld console like psp along with 280 gm A3 brick and possibly a cellphone?games on ipod touch is really welcome addition

well as i said both are completely different products
A3 is better with specs like audio format,video format and resolution.its for people like you who care more about "formats","DVD movie in pocket" "AV Cable""LCD out"etc.who like to carry out 22mm thick and 280gm brick in their pocket and who think mp3 players sholud not play games.

personally i dont care about features like AV cable lcd out etc.sure A3 has more extra features than touch but those are pretty much useless for me.touch has good video output.if i want to see dvd movies,i will better watch them on my home lcd.

ipod touch is very cool,typical apple device:great hardware,sofware along with wow factor.
it is extremely pocketable and it plays great games
one more thing touch has battery life thrice than A3

^^^ For everything I said, your reply is UI and nothing else.

4:touch is pleasure to use.wow factor is uncomparable to A3.just bring out touch out of your pocket and use it.people will be amazed.what about A3;just another ordinary brick

This shows that you have never used A3 before and that for you a gadget is great only if it has great looks irrespective of how crappy it is when compared to other players.

FYI, since you have no idea how a PMP should be, here are few that are REAL PMP's unlike the touch that is good only at UI

*www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5/index.html?country=global&lang=en
*www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/a3/
*us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=209&subcategory=836&product=17811

And yeah,if you think a player is only if it looks good, take a look at this:
*product.cowon.com/product/IFA/product_page_1.php

Cowon S9 curve:

3.3" 16M color display
capacitive touch screen
500MHz dual core CPU
music/movie/picture/document
bluetooth
40hr music playback.
DMB-T tuner
Integrated FM radio
TV Out
Auto-rotating display

Cowon O2:

*product.cowon.com/product/IFA/product_page_2.php

7" touch screen display
800 x 480 resolution
Tactile button system
SiRF Star III GPS chipset
FM transmitter
Speaker
Remote control
formats: divx, xvid, wmv, mpeg, mp3, wma, ogg vorbis, flac, ac3, trueaudio, ogg flac, apple lossless, PCM and many more.

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Cowon L3:

*product.cowon.com/product/IFA/product_page_3.php

7" touch screen display
800 x 480 resolution
Tactile button system
SiRF Star III GPS chipset
FM transmitter
Speaker
Remote control

personally i dont care about features like AV cable lcd out etc.sure A3 has more extra features than touch but those are pretty much useless for me.touch has good video output.if i want to see dvd movies,i will better watch them on my home lcd.

haha. I show cowon's feature that are really useful for a PMP and you say that you have home LCD.

And when I ask why exactly you need wifi on a mp3 player in a country where you hardly find wifi hotspots, you say you need a convergence device.

Don't you think that you are trying to support ipod touch without having any idea what you are talking about???

WHich one is useful for a PMP??

1) Having wifi etc on a device that you can't use, UI that you barely use for 2mins/hr
2) dump everything into the device without having fear that it can play or not, loads and loads of options for video/audio playback.

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desiibond said:
haha. I show cowon's feature that are really useful for a PMP and you say that you have home LCD.

And when I ask why exactly you need wifi on a mp3 player in a country where you hardly find wifi hotspots, you say you need a convergence device.

Don't you think that you are trying to support ipod touch without having any idea what you are talking about???
WHich one is useful for a PMP??

1) Having wifi etc on a device that you can't use, UI that you barely use for 2mins/hr
2) dump everything into the device without having fear that it can play or not, loads and loads of options for video/audio playback.

Read my post said carefully
my point who need to watch dvd movies on portable player when we compare its size?
touch provides good video options which are sufficient

coming back to your question which is better player i think it all needs on what you need.i already told you why i prefer touch.

who told you we cannot use wi-fi on ipod touch?

coming back to topic
seems like today Apple India have revised price of new ipods

*apple.co.in/store/flash/ipod_touch/ipod_touch.html

now touch 2g is costing 12,800+taxes

1235Sam said:
Read my post said carefully
my point who need to watch dvd movies on portable player when we compare its size?
touch provides good video options which are sufficient

coming back to your question which is better player i think it all needs on what you need.i already told you why i prefer touch.

You really dont have answer to cowon's capability. Do you?

my point who need to watch dvd movies on portable player when we compare its size?
touch provides good video options which are sufficient

well, a dvd quality movie means lot more audio and video quality. You will know the difference when you really see it on A3.

Think about it this way, you buy a dvd or borrow a dvd of an amazing movie and suddenly you have to leave, all you need to do is dump that dvd into the player and play in while you are away instead of converting it for hours.

And what about all those other players that I listed. Are you lost after looking at them?

The point is "There is no need to go after ipods when there are better things available."

Ofcourse, we need DVD-quality and HD quality rips on a 4 inch screen

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desiibond said:
You really dont have answer to cowon's capability. Do you?

well, a dvd quality movie means lot more audio and video quality. You will know the difference when you really see it on A3.

Think about it this way, you buy a dvd or borrow a dvd of an amazing movie and suddenly you have to leave, all you need to do is dump that dvd into the player and play in while you are away instead of converting it for hours.

And what about all those other players that I listed. Are you lost after looking at them?

The point is "There is no need to go after ipods when there are better things available."

of course specs wise cowon are better than ipods on paper

yes dvd movies provide better quality but how much space they occupy?

about the others players yes s9 looks very good and i would it will provide some competition to ipod touch.

ps:i am not blind supportor of apple.also this thread is not a competition so there is no question of win or loose.everybody has different needs.so which is better player depends on your needs.i like ipod touch and i preffer it over A3 or any other cowon

^^ Thank you.

see, first you said cowon is just a brick and now you say that specs wise cowon is better than ipod on paper.

Since you never used cowon A3, accepting cowon as better than ipod on paper is good enough. Thats' good improvement

Should be the end of discussion I think.

1235Sam said:
of course specs wise cowon are better than ipods on paper

yes dvd movies provide better quality but how much space they occupy?

about the others players yes s9 looks very good and i would it will provide some competition to ipod touch.

ps:i am not blind supportor of apple.also this thread is not a competition so there is no question of win or loose.everybody has different needs.so which is better player depends on your needs.i like ipod touch and i preffer it over A3 or any other cowon

I totally agree.. its personal.. though am not a fan of apple but have used my friends ipod touch the old one.. and dude i feel that's the eye catching WOW thing.. One thing more as someone told above that for 2 mins you see the display and rest of the time you keep in pocket.. let me know which will be comfortable to keep! LOL

And also i think when you walk you keep on pocket and rest of the time on your hand or office table!

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desiibond said:
^^ Thank you.

see, first you said cowon is just a brick and now you say that specs wise cowon is better than ipod on paper.

Since you never used cowon A3, accepting cowon as better than ipod on paper is good enough. Thats' good improvement

Should be the end of discussion I think.

dude are you nut?
i said A3 is brick because its 22mm thick and 283gm
yes specs wise it is better than touch.no doubt.but is the specs only important factor?not at all.there are other advantages of touch apart from specs(read my post no 16),but you wont get it (or should i say you wont accept it as you seem like apple hater and you want to justify your A3 purchase so according to you touch is piece of ****)so be happy with your brick

aha. covering what you said. Way to go buddy. way to go.

1235Sam said:
dude are you nut?
i said A3 is brick because its 22mm thick and 283gm
yes specs wise it is better than touch.no doubt.but is the specs only important factor?not at all.there are other advantages of touch apart from specs(read my post no 16),but you wont get it (or should i say you wont accept it as you seem like apple hater and you want to justify your A3 purchase so according to you touch is piece of ****)so be happy with your brick

Its about time you start accepting the existence of anti-fanboys

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96661

^^ Oh yeah. Show that there is something better out there and you are anti-fanboy. Keep it up.

Pat said:
Its about time you start accepting the existence of anti-fanboys

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96661

Ahh!! Come on dude!.....

Everyone has his/her opinion and also full right to express it and this is a PUBLIC FORUM. Don't forget it.

And perhaps I'll agree with desiibond.

A person who wants to buy an iPod just for the sake of excellent sound quality (thinking that iPod is the best in sound quality), must be made aware of the right choice in terms of sound quality i.e. Cowon. Cowon > iPod.

If someone wants to only buy an iPod Touch, he'll surely buy it and there will be no one stopping him. Perhaps many people in India wouldn't have ever heard the name of Cowon.

And yes, I'm myself getting an iPod Touch in a month just because of Safari and Wi-fi because I require those two features. If sound quality would have been my concern, I would have definitely gone for a Cowon.

^^ You seem to be confused. When did I stop anyone from having his/her opinion ? Infacts thats exactly what I said in my post that you quoted!

First of all, I'm puzzled as to how our nokia-boy krazzy figured the iPod Touch would cost less than 10k. Even in the USA it is more expensive than that! Gee I tell you.

In any case, those are MRPs. So if you bargain you should be able to get it for 13k or even less.

goobimama said:
First of all, I'm puzzled as to how our nokia-boy krazzy figured the iPod Touch would cost less than 10k. Even in the USA it is more expensive than that! Gee I tell you.

In any case, those are MRPs. So if you bargain you should be able to get it for 13k or even less.

Well $229 does turn out to be around 9k something. Add the taxes and it should be around 10k without exceeding 11k. But here it costs around 3k more (around 14k without the taxes).

^^ At $240, with the current exchange rate of 47, it goes right up to 11,300. Add to that the govt duty imposed in India. So at 13k which is what it should be available at if you bargain, its not earth shattering. Just "below 10k" gets me a little surprised, coming from someone like you.

^^ All right I goofed up with the exchange rate a bit.

goobimama said:
...coming from someone like you.

Hey even I am entitled to make a few mistakes once in a while.

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Pat said:
Its about time you start accepting the existence of anti-fanboys

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96661

interesting thread about anti-fanboys.now i accept existence anti-fanboys

Pat said:
^^ You seem to be confused. When did I stop anyone from having his/her opinion ? Infacts thats exactly what I said in my post that you quoted!

Well, I don't know whether I'm confused or not....But surely I think I am confused as I'm not able to understand that why has desiibond been termed as an 'Anti-Fanboy' by you just for arguing against the iPod Touch.

gagandeep said:
Well, I don't know whether I'm confused or not....But surely I think I am confused

Lol! That proves my point

gagandeep said:
Well, I don't know whether I'm confused or not....But surely I think I am confused as I'm not able to understand that why has desiibond been termed as an 'Anti-Fanboy' by you just for arguing against the iPod Touch.

@gagandeep, Don't worry mate.

Living proof of 'over-smart kids'.

anyways, I clearly showed with example that there are much better alternatives to this pathetic player.

Some fanboys may call it anti-fanboyism but in reality, it's called 'showing better way'.

desiibond said:
@
Some fanboys may call it anti-fanboyism but in reality, it's called 'showing better way'.

Ofcourse its called what kiddos like you want it to be called

krazzy said:
WTF! I was expecting the 8gb Touch to be available for less than 10k. 14k is ridiculous.

No, mate, your expecting it to be 10K is ridiculous. It costs about Rs. 11,500 in the U.S.A. itself and you expect it to be available for less than 10K here? LOL!

^^ OK OK! I already got the spankings from Goobimama. No more please.

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i have confirmed price from Apple store in Pune.
Its 12,800+taxes which means lower than 14k.Maybe as someone said with bargain we could get it in lower prices.Though are still not sure about exact available date.They told me start of oct

anybody have idea what are taxes and levies apart from 4% VAT we will need to pay?

aryayush said:
No, mate, your expecting it to be 10K is ridiculous. It costs about Rs. 11,500 in the U.S.A. itself and you expect it to be available for less than 10K here? LOL!

Nokia N96 costs 960$ (Rs.43200) in the US and it costs 35K here........ :lol: