New Nokia 5800 · DIGIT-ARC

this was posted in another forum .

There is lots of confusion going regarding 5800 so i thought should clarify some doubts
ok guys 5800 is now available for just 13.5k but at this price nokia has silently removed many things.
1.no extra stylus
2.no pouch
3.no stand
4.no tv out cable
5.no tv out feature as well(ya its true i have confirmed it they have removed the tv out feature)
there is small notice on back of the box saying tv out mode is not supported and inside the box also saying tv out fmode is no longer supported please ignore any settings see the pics
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even the nokia india website also confirms this see the box content and also no mention of tv out in the specifications.the page for 5800 is also updated
*www.nokia.co.in/find-products/pr ... ifications

so actually at present there are two versions of this phone available one which is old which has the accesories and tvout feature and the new version which doesnot has it.the new version is the stock from august onwards.so you may be lucky to get a 2-3 months older with all the accesories and tv out feature but depens from where you buy and till there is stock left.as far as the new 5800 is concerned all those accesories and tv out feature is removed but what they have added is
1.you get voucher of 100 songs downloadable from nokia music store
2.3months of voice navigation is still there
3.newer firmware v30 out of the box

so just check out before you buy 5800 box and if you are lucky you might get one older stock with all accesories.

original link:*www.chip.in/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50965

so actually nokia is cutting down things to cut down prices.it will be interseting to see that 5800 sells for 13.5k whereas 5530 will also sell around 13k.

What about other features like wifi 3g gps are they missing or present in new model . .

5800 without tv out feature will be ok for most of us.....other features like wifi,3g , vga recording , update firmware are much needed
BTW 5530 dont have 3g and tv-out

phuchungbhutia said:
What about other features like wifi 3g gps are they missing or present in new model . .

rest everything is there as it was see nokia india site for specifications

M

why would they do so??? tv out is a cool feature to have in phone..!!!

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no pouch, no extra stylus or no stand we can do without these things but..>!!!

K

then would anyone even buy the 5530 ... jus pay 500 more and u get a better screen

S

I bought nokia 5800 Xm older model with all accessories included at same price 14.7k[12.5 vat] :twisted:

Stay away from priority dealers they are selling older model for 17.6k

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Black/grey color is newer model and doesnt include the accessories and tv out feature.
So ur options are red/blue color if u r lucky to get older model of course

For me tv out feature is very good feature and couldnt have missed out that and if getting at same price nothing better than that :razz:

K

mine was for 15.6k

... feel a lil bad about it but it still is cool ... i wud want my fone to have all the features ...

"at present 5800 doesnot support tv out but tv out feature will once again be availble when new stock comes" this was told to me by nokia care person.
i dont know what does that mean and he did not tell when new stock will come
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k4ce said:
mine was for 15.6k ... feel a lil bad about it but it still is cool ... i wud want my fone to have all the features ...

hey k4ce did you got tv out feature and the accesories with your phone
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sahilshah1987 said:
I bought nokia 5800 Xm older model with all accessories included at same price 14.7k[12.5 vat]
Stay away from priority dealers they are selling older model for 17.6k \
Black/grey color is newer model and doesnt include the accessories and tv out feature.
So ur options are red/blue color if u r lucky to get older model of course
For me tv out feature is very good feature and couldnt have missed out that and if getting at same price nothing better than that

congrats, you are surely a lucky man.enjoy the phone.

Seems like all of u use TV out feature :shock:

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So friends what do u think ...what will be the worth of 5530
I guess 11k coz no 3g..no tv out...small screen

K

no sujoyp , i dont use it tat much ... us saying tat to cheer myself up ..

... cos i spent 2k more ...

yes, i have got TV output on fone and the cable too ... don have the pouch and extra stylus though
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no sujoyp , i dont use it tat much ... us saying tat to cheer myself up ..

... cos i spent 2k more ... Ya, maybe 12k something(for the 5530) .... but seriously, i don undestand why they did tat ...

yes, i have got TV output on fone and the cable too ... don have the pouch and extra stylus though

guys i am getting 5800 at 13.3k but its the new one without accesories and tvout feature,looked in few shops but same model everywhere.so should i go with this one at 13.3k.well for the price without tvout and accesories it seems ok what do you say should i go with it?

S

I would suggest to look out more if u can get older model with all accessories included.I searched for 2 days and got one at the mobile store at same price. :razz:

M

Ya search and search hard! You wont be buying a phone time and again!

Both 5800 and N79 were the recent price drop by Nokia..So there is some change made in 5800 as the price fall...wat abt N79 is there any change or down grade in this phone???

MasterMinds said:
Ya search and search hard! You wont be buying a phone time and again!

ya the search is on lets see if i manage to get one otherwise will have to go with the newer one.
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Vensanga said:
Both 5800 and N79 were the recent price drop by Nokia..So there is some change made in 5800 as the price fall...wat abt N79 is there any change or down grade in this phone???

i think the last price was around 14k-14.5k,not sure that there is any reduction after that and i dont think they have removed any thing from n79

T

When i bought 5800 @ 18.9k , i compared it with other touchscreen phones (mostly win mo , like touch diamond etc) and thought that i got a great VFM phone . Its funny How time changes .

Btw , the thing i miss most in new package is the 'Stand' . It was quite a unique touch.

Stupid Nokia. Why the hell they did so?

TV-out is one feature which I really use a lot in my Nokia 5800.

Edit #1: I just had a talk with Nokia care person. They say that the new stock will again start having the TV-out feature. Don't know whether they are correct or not.

Edit #2: Turns out that they are n00bs. :/

@new buyers, why not just try and use a TV-out cable and see whether it works or not?

ico said:
Stupid Nokia. Why the hell they did so?

TV-out is one feature which I really use a lot in my Nokia 5800.

Edit #1: I just had a talk with Nokia care person. They say that the new stock will again start having the TV-out feature. Don't know whether they are correct or not.

Edit #2: Turns out that they are n00bs. :/

@new buyers, why not just try and use a TV-out cable and see whether it works or not?

ya i also got the same answer from nokia care person and he does not know when the stock will be available.if will put tvout again what was the point of removing it at first place.
and second important point is will the new stock bw priced at 13.5k or it will be priced same as 15.6k which was 1week back.

my situation here is if you go to buy 5800 there are two versions available new one priced at 13.5k and older one with all accesories and tv out at 15.6k.
i looked in many shops today most of them have only new one and some which have old stock are selling it at old price 15.6k.
want to buy one but dont know what to do, are those accesories and tvout feature worth 2k extra?

K

^ depends on u really ... i wudnt mind cos its like a one time investment ... but then again, it also depends on budget ...

M

if Ur budget allows go for TV out version..!!!
depends on u totally

tv out features are not there in any nokia mobile of new stock..
it is a decision taken by nokia india ..
so forget about tv output feature.
i ve bought 5800 from nokia priority dealer..
bought a pouch
they have given plectrum free....

M

U say no tv out in any nokia phone from now on

ya...they said...i mean nokia dealers said that...
trust me..

M

Dont beleive them! Thats impossible! I mean why would they take such a decision! If they remove the tv out feature from every phone then they have to reintroduce it again cause many people will like to have that functionality!

T

Trust nokia dealers ???? I'd rather trust politicial .

Btw , my bro bought 5800 yesterday , i thing newer ones have tighter build quality .

drsubhadip said:
bought a pouch

What did it cost ?

they have given plectrum free....

Which costs Rs. 5 for local and Rs. 35 for branded high quality stuff :-D

I would give plectrums as change if I were a touch screen phone seller. :lol:

Anyway, have any of you tried both the plectrum and the stylus ? Do both feel equally comfortable and smooth to use ?

T

I feel the placturm easier because i dont have to pull out the stylus .

Just keep ur nails silghtly bigger and u'll have no problem. I ONLY use placturm when browsing webpages to click on very small links.

K

i use my little finger

... only problem is that it ends up zooming occasionally ....

Tamoghno said:
I feel the placturm easier because i dont have to pull out the stylus .

Just keep ur nails silghtly bigger and u'll have no problem. I ONLY use placturm when browsing webpages to click on very small links.

Hmm... and have you tried asli guitar wala plectrums ?

K

^ why would you do tat ? but yeah worth a try ... and by the way, wats wid these ads, they are taking up 80% of the whole page

How to find out if the phone has TV out feature ? The sellers I checked say there is no TV out feature, but one guy says he has the phone with this feature

How to identify it ? Any screenshots of where this is actually located on the phone ?

K

^ look at the accessories ... if it says TV out cable, that means it'llhvae TV out feature

got a nokia 5800 xm today @ 14200 , its my bad luck it was a new stock .

got a 5800 yesterday @ 13.5k..can i use the free 3 month gps after an year?

K

^ dude , u can use the GPS free all ur life ... the 3 months is for nokia maps navigation ...

Ihatemyself said:
got a 5800 yesterday @ 13.5k..can i use the free 3 month gps after an year?

with the TV out feature ?
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k4ce said:
^ look at the accessories ... if it says TV out cable, that means it'llhvae TV out feature

There is no tv out cable in the offer. The seller says there is a tv out feature, how to verify.

k4ce said:
^ dude , u can use the GPS free all ur life ... the 3 months is for nokia maps navigation ...

so can i use the nokia maps after some months coz i dont wanna waste the 3 month thing right now? using gps with google maps wont start my three month free subscription to nokia maps. right ?

T

You can use gps all your life . You can use nokia maps (& now ovi maps) all your life . You can use google maps with all your life. Using google maps wont affect your maps license.

The three months trial is for navigation using nokia maps which include things like turn by turn voice direction etc. You can still view the maps and search using nokia maps.

Btw , before activating your subscription , make sure your city have complete maps , otherwise you'll be wasting your trial.

K

^ only 8 cities in india have maps (nokia) ... so be sure u hapen to e in one of them .... navigation is practically useless on the highways ... i personally find nokia navigation almost useless ... i wouldn't worry too much bout the 3 month free subscription .. there are ways to get around it

M

Garmin has more maps than nokia i think!

K

garmin rocks ... but i hardly use it cos my GPS takes atleast 5mins on a cold start ... how long does it take for ur GPS to fire up ?

M

I dont have gps enabled phone! But my friends 5800 takes about 3 to 4 mins to lock. But in open it hardly takes 2 mins.

the worst thing is encoding!!! 3rd party apps dont support hardware acceleration. and videos encoded in h.264 wont play on my phone though ive heard 5800 plays it!!
is there any video network with 640*360 videos which can play directly on 5800??