New PC for 2D/3D Animation Work under 75K

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Hello friends,

We need to build a high end PC for 2D/3D animation work. Mainly Adobe Animate CC will be used; sometimes Maya may be also used.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Animation work using Adobe Animate CC; occasionally Maya.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Rs. 75,000 max.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10 Home

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 250 GB SSD, 1TB HDD

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes, 22" FHD

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: NA

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Within 15 days

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Yes, but this will be mainly built by an assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Pune. If available then locally, otherwise online is also fine.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Reliability is more important than performance. Please add a wireless keyboard/mouse and UPS also.

Please suggest a suitable configuration.

Thanks in advance!

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Hello friends, we need to build it rather quickly. Please suggest something.
Thanks!

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Primeabgb shop is situated at Lamington Road Mumbai so call them & if possible visit them,you should be able to get a bit cheaper prices compared to their online prices when directly negotiating with them.

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Thanks a lot @whitestar_999 for the detailed configuration!!

This looks quite robust, though I've few questions:

1. If GT 1030 GPU will be sufficient for our graphics work?
2. Do we really need 32GB RAM?

All else looks great.

I've bought lots of stuff from PrimeAbgb store; this time it may not be possible for us to travel Mumbai, but I'll definitely talk to them over phone for better prices.

Please suggest a SSD and HDD also.

Thanks again for your help!

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I found this post which says adobe animate don't use graphics card at all:
Animate CC hardware acceleration & performance - Adobe Support Community - 10177151

"The Team" did not reply because Adobe animate is not using GPU at all, it uses CPU, and there is no option to turn the GPU on.... I just found this out today, when i imported 8,000 frames and it took ages....

Because of budget constraints I simply selected the least powerful card in gt1xxx series.If you know you have software which can use graphics card effectively then I can suggest otherwise but it will cross the budget.

Buy Online Western Digital Caviar Blue 2TB WD20EZRZ Internal Hard Drive - in India --4150
Buy Online Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Internal Hard Drive WD10EZEX - in India --2800

Buy Online GIGABYTE 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD GP-GSM2NE3100TNTD In India OR Buy Online Crucial MX500 2.5 Inch 1TB SATA III 3D NAND SSD CT1000MX500SSD1 In India --9200
Buy Online Crucial MX500 2.5″ 500GB SATA III 3D SSD CT500MX500SSD1 In India --4900
Buy Online Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD SA2000M8/500G In India --5800

Make your own combination of ssd+hdd from above depending on your needs.

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whitestar_999 said:
I found this post which says adobe animate don't use graphics card at all:
Animate CC hardware acceleration & performance - Adobe Support Community - 10177151

Because of budget constraints I simply selected the least powerful card in gt1xxx series.If you know you have software which can use graphics card effectively then I can suggest otherwise but it will cross the budget.

Make your own combination of ssd+hdd from above depending on your needs.

It's really strange that Adobe Animate CC can't make use of GPU. It that case any GPU is fine.
Other Adobe software will be also used like, Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Premier. So please check the GPU is sufficient.

Sorry, I missed to mentions these in the first post.

For RAM 32GB is required, or 16GB will work?

Thanks again!

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See the links below & match it with your usage,I don't use these software so only you can get a clear idea from below links.Once you have done that then post about your opinions/queries here.
Recommended System: Recommended Systems for Adobe Premiere Pro
Recommended System: Recommended Systems for Adobe Photoshop

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Great! Those pages have very detailed information.

Looking at those it looks like Adobe software require more of CPU power than GPU. Also Premiere Pro requires lots of RAM, so 32GB seems fine.
Here Premiere Pro can benefit from a better GPU with more VRAM, so is it better if we take a little more powerful GPU like one of these:

1. ZOTAC GTX 1050 Ti Mini 4GB
Buy Online ZOTAC GTX 1050 Ti Mini 4GB Graphic Card ZT-P10510A-10L - in India

2. ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4GB
Buy Online ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4GB Graphic Card ZT-T16500F-10L - in India

Both of these have more power requirements (75 watt) compared to GT1030 (30 watt). I hope it should work just with CX550 PSU?
Also does it requires some additional cooling?

Thanks!

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Get zotac 1650 & don't forget to register it online on zotac India website within 28 days of purchase to get extra 3 years warranty so total warranty becomes 2+3=5 years(zotac will send an email(may take 1-2 days to 1-2 weeks & may even go to spam so keep checking) confirming registration & extra warranty which you must save as printout of that may be required for availing any warranty after 2 years). CX550 is more than enough for even nvidia 1660Ti & 2060. In fact if you don't overclock ryzen 3600 then even CX450 is more than enough for this system but CX550 is better as difference is just 1k & it gives you more headroom for future upgrades.

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whitestar_999 said:
Get zotac 1650 & don't forget to register it online on zotac India website within 28 days of purchase to get extra 3 years warranty so total warranty becomes 2+3=5 years(zotac will send an email(may take 1-2 days to 1-2 weeks & may even go to spam so keep checking) confirming registration & extra warranty which you must save as printout of that may be required for availing any warranty after 2 years). CX550 is more than enough for even nvidia 1660Ti & 2060. In fact if you don't overclock ryzen 3600 then even CX450 is more than enough for this system but CX550 is better as difference is just 1k & it gives you more headroom for future upgrades.

Excellent!

We will go with Zotac 1650, and register online for sure.
Now let me put all the parts together see how much does it cross the budget; I guess not much.

Thanks a lot for your timely help!

You could save some money by using a b450 motherboard, but x570 mobos are future proof and will run next gen amd cpus also if you wish to upgrade in near future.

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toofan said:
You could save some money by using a b450 motherboard, but x570 mobos are future proof and will run next gen amd cpus also if you wish to upgrade in near future.

His work is pretty cpu intensive so his processor usage will be ~80%+ most of the time. Because of this,a mobo with good VRMs is recommended & that's why X570 mobo is recommended as a B450/X470 mobo with similarly good VRMs(msi excluded because of their poor after sales support) costs similar. Asrock B450 Pro 4 is good for typical/home usage but not the best option for this scenario.

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toofan said:
You could save some money by using a b450 motherboard, but x570 mobos are future proof and will run next gen amd cpus also if you wish to upgrade in near future.

Initially I also thought about that but this looks like more future proof, in case we upgrade the GPU later on if required.
Thanks!

Gpu can be upgraded on b450 mobos also. Next gen amd cpu may not support b450. They will need b550 or 570 mobos.

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toofan said:
Gpu can be upgraded on b450 mobos also. Next gen amd cpu may not support b450. They will need b550 or 570 mobos.

MSI after sales support is worst & asus & gigabyte don't have any good B450 or even X470/X570 mobo significantly cheaper than suggested X570 mobo here so not many options.

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Finally, these are the parts selected:

01. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 15,600
02. M/B: ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS AMD X570 ATX 16,950
03. GPU: ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4GB 11,500
04. RAM: G.Skill RipjawsV F4-3200C16S-16GVK 16 GB DDR4 *2 10,660
05. SSD: Crucial MX500 2.5″ 250GB SATA III 3D SSD 03,450
06. HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 02,800
07. PSU: Corsair CX550 550 Watts 80 Plus 04,450
08. Cabinet: Corsair Carbide Series 100R Black 02,800
09. Monitor: LG 22MP68VQ-P 22 inch Full HD IPS 08,300
10. Logitech MK345 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo (Black) 01,900
11. UPS: APC 600 VA 02,800

Total cost: 81,210

Yes, the motherboard looks costly but not sure if there is any other suitable option. Overall budget crossed by 6K approx.
Now the hunt begins to get all the parts.

Thanks a lot friends!

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Try to negotiate with primeabgb for most components,when you pay directly to them via cash/upi/bank account transfer then there is a discount of at least 100-200 on many products as it saves the commission charges of payment gateways.

P.S. you can save some more by paying via sbi simplysave credit card which gives effectively 2.5% worth reward points for all physical card transactions at stores but not sure how much prime charges for cc payments(in Delhi it is usually ~2%) as some big stores don't charge anything extra & as per rbi instructions no charge is supposed to be there for less than 2k transactions so if they also follow it(many stores don't follow this rule) then you can pay by dividing total amount into 40 transactions of 20k but again you will most likely need to call sbi card customer care as doing 40 transactions in a day will surely trigger their automatic fraud detection system.

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whitestar_999 said:
Try to negotiate with primeabgb for most components,when you pay directly to them via cash/upi/bank account transfer then there is a discount of at least 100-200 on many products as it saves the commission charges of payment gateways.

OK sure! First we will try to get as many parts as much possible in Pune only, then will contact PrimeAbgb.
Thanks for the tip!

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edurgesh said:
OK sure! First we will try to get as many parts as much possible in Pune only, then will contact PrimeAbgb.
Thanks for the tip!

See my earlier post,edited to add some extra info.

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whitestar_999 said:
P.S. you can save some more by paying via sbi simplysave credit card which gives effectively 2.5% worth reward points for all physical card transactions at stores but not sure how much prime charges for cc payments(in Delhi it is usually ~2%) as some big stores don't charge anything extra & as per rbi instructions no charge is supposed to be there for less than 2k transactions so if they also follow it(many stores don't follow this rule) then you can pay by dividing total amount into 40 transactions of 20k but again you will most likely need to call sbi card customer care as doing 40 transactions in a day will surely trigger their automatic fraud detection system.

OK great! Unfortunately we don't have SBI card (I've Kotak), but I will check with my sis-in-law if she or anyone else in her family has that SBI card. (Actually she needs this PC for her Adobe training, etc. I'm just helping her in building the system). For sure, credit cards provide benefit in different ways!

Thanks!

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Kotak has no credit cards worth getting,best cards for those spending mainly on online shopping are sbi simplyclick(2.5% reward points on amazon,1.25% on other online tranx incl wallet loading,0.01% on offline tranx,Rs.500 annual charges waived on spending more than 1lakh in year),icici amazon pay(life time free,5% unlimited cashback on amazon for prime members,2% other online tranx,1% offline tranx),axis flipkart(similar to icici amazon pay but for flipkart & not life time free as 500 annual charge waived on spending more than 2lakh in year). Other than these there are hdfc cards which also give good rewards but they have too many terms & conditions so you always need to calculate & plan for getting max benefit from them.

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whitestar_999 said:
Kotak has no credit cards worth getting,best cards for those spending mainly on online shopping are sbi simplyclick(2.5% reward points on amazon,1.25% on other online tranx incl wallet loading,0.01% on offline tranx,Rs.500 annual charges waived on spending more than 1lakh in year),icici amazon pay(life time free,5% unlimited cashback on amazon for prime members,2% other online tranx,1% offline tranx),axis flipkart(similar to icici amazon pay but for flipkart & not life time free as 500 annual charge waived on spending more than 2lakh in year). Other than these there are hdfc cards which also give good rewards but they have too many terms & conditions so you always need to calculate & plan for getting max benefit from them.

Wow! You have very detailed information about credit cards. Actually I got my Kotak credit card with my salary account long back. Time to look for another one!

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edurgesh said:
Wow! You have very detailed information about credit cards. Actually I got my Kotak credit card with my salary account long back. Time to look for another one!

If you think that's detailed then you haven't seen enough,I have seen people posting in detail how to use 11 credit cards each for some specific usage to maximize their benefits.

Offline prices in big cities are generally lower then online prices. So chances are high you will save some money.

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whitestar_999 said:
If you think that's detailed then you haven't seen enough,I have seen people posting in detail how to use 11 credit cards each for some specific usage to maximize their benefits.

Ha ha.. Yes, I know few people like those who have multiple cards and try to maximize all the available benefits!
I'm not that aggressive in this area, and have just one card which I use mainly as a security layer for cashless transactions.

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toofan said:
Offline prices in big cities are generally lower then online prices. So chances are high you will save some money.

Yes, I also noticed the same; even in Pune few parts a little cheaper than online prices!

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toofan said:
Offline prices in big cities are generally lower then online prices. So chances are high you will save some money.

Yes but primeabgb,mdcomputers,vedant,theitdepot are the biggest offline consumer shops in India for pc components specifically.It is just that their online prices are a bit higher than their offline prices because of the commission they have to pay to payment gateway services.

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edurgesh said:
Ha ha.. Yes, I know few people like those who have multiple cards and try to maximize all the available benefits!
I'm not that aggressive in this area, and have just one card which I use mainly as a security layer for cashless transactions.

Nowadays keeping one card is worth it only if it is some top-tier card,for everything else I think having 2-3 cards is minimum. Btw there is DCB bank Elite acc(25k min balance) debit card which gives flat 1.6% cashback on all debit card transactions capped to 2k/month & 20k/financial year.

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whitestar_999 said:
Yes but primeabgb,mdcomputers,vedant,theitdepot are the biggest offline consumer shops in India for pc components specifically.It is just that their online prices are a bit higher than their offline prices because of the commission they have to pay to payment gateway services.

Yes true, they can easily avoid the payment gateway charges through offline sales! We can benefit from this if they pass on to customers.

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whitestar_999 said:
Nowadays keeping one card is worth it only if it is some top-tier card,for everything else I think having 2-3 cards is minimum. Btw there is DCB bank Elite acc(25k min balance) debit card which gives flat 1.6% cashback on all debit card transactions capped to 2k/month & 20k/financial year.

Yes, it's quite common to have multiple cards these days. Somehow I'm still managing with just one!

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edurgesh said:
Yes, it's quite common to have multiple cards these days. Somehow I'm still managing with just one!

Managing with one card is fine,it is just that you are losing money in the form of extra benefits/savings of effectively using multiple cards.My friend also has only 1 credit card but it is a good one(3000+gst annual fee) but he use it effectively to get at least 7-10k worth of benefits per year so you can say he earns extra 4-7k/year from this card.

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whitestar_999 said:
Managing with one card is fine,it is just that you are losing money in the form of extra benefits/savings of effectively using multiple cards.My friend also has only 1 credit card but it is a good one(3000+gst annual fee) but he use it effectively to get at least 7-10k worth of benefits per year so you can say he earns extra 4-7k/year from this card.

That's great! If someone is spending that much so that card benefits may exceed the annual charges, it's definitely worth to pay for the card and get the best one!

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edurgesh said:
That's great! If someone is spending that much so that card benefits may exceed the annual charges, it's definitely worth to pay for the card and get the best one!

Anyone with decent online spends can earn more than card charges.e.g.sbi simply click card gives Rs.500 amazon voucher for 2000 points & 10 points on any amazon purchase means that just buying 20000 worth of products on amazon in a year will recover your card cost & any other online transaction then is just bonus.Also just by paying all your bills online(electricity,water,gas,phone,broadband etc) I think one can easily reach 1 lakh spend in year which will then make sbi simplyclick card free as annual charges reversed on spending more than 1 lakh in year.

Today I got a cash back of Rs 5600 as amazon cashback for being spender of the day using sbi credit card. I bought 3600 from amazon during offer period. SBI card cashback of extra 5% is due on march 2020.

Effextive price of ryzen 3600 is now 9500 rs for me.

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whitestar_999 said:
Anyone with decent online spends can earn more than card charges.e.g.sbi simply click card gives Rs.500 amazon voucher for 2000 points & 10 points on any amazon purchase means that just buying 20000 worth of products on amazon in a year will recover your card cost & any other online transaction then is just bonus.Also just by paying all your bills online(electricity,water,gas,phone,broadband etc) I think one can easily reach 1 lakh spend in year which will then make sbi simplyclick card free as annual charges reversed on spending more than 1 lakh in year.

Yes, that's true; these days one lac spending in a year is very normal. Need to look for another card!

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toofan said:
Today I got a cash back of Rs 5600 as amazon cashback for being spender of the day using sbi credit card. I bought 3600 from amazon during offer period. SBI card cashback of extra 5% is due on march 2020.

This is amazing deal! 9500 for R5 is steal; congratulations!

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There is s twist in the story from my side. As we are trying to get the parts, today she discussed the config in her institute, and everyone including there objected for the AMD and insisted only on Intel processor for Adobe software. All the PC in the institute has Intel only. They suggested to go for Intel i7 9700K paired with Z390P motherboard, and now she is also unwilling to go for AMD.

She got an estimate for i7 9700K + Z390M and a cheaper UPS, all else being same, comes to 87,000 approx.

Hope it's not too bad.

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edurgesh said:
There is s twist in the story from my side. As we are trying to get the parts, today she discussed the config in her institute, and everyone including there objected for the AMD and insisted only on Intel processor for Adobe software. All the PC in the institute has Intel only. They suggested to go for Intel i7 9700K paired with Z390P motherboard, and now she is also unwilling to go for AMD.

She got an estimate for i7 9700K + Z390M and a cheaper UPS, all else being same, comes to 87,000 approx.

Hope it's not too bad.

Intel is "traditionally considered as better for adobe products" & it was indeed true in the past but negligible difference nowadays. Anyway even that is fine but do note that 9th gen intel processors run hot & 'k' version processor you don't even come with cpu cooler. Save some money & suggest her to get non-k version of 9700. Also I don't understand how the total system cost is coming 87k when i7 9700(that too non-k as k version costs ~2k more) costs ~31k & a good Z390 mobo costs ~17k plus add a good cpu cooler for ~5k.

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toofan said:
Today I got a cash back of Rs 5600 as amazon cashback for being spender of the day using sbi credit card. I bought 3600 from amazon during offer period. SBI card cashback of extra 5% is due on march 2020.

Spender of the day means your total bill must have been quite high(50k+ maybe). Which sbi card is this btw,simplyclick or prime?

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whitestar_999 said:
Intel is "traditionally considered as better for adobe products" & it was indeed true in the past but negligible difference nowadays. Anyway even that is fine but do note that 9th gen intel processors run hot & 'k' version processor you don't even come with cpu cooler). Save some money & suggest her to get non-k version of 9700. Also I don't understand how the total system cost is coming 87k when i7 9700(that too non-k as k version costs ~2k more) costs ~31k & a good Z390 mobo costs ~17k plus add a good cpu cooler for ~5k.

Yes, even I'm surprised to see the final cost considering so high price of the CPU itself. I also suggested her that 'K' series CPU is not required.
Anyway, I'll find it out how it costed 87K.

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Also send your cousin this link:
Intel Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K Review

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whitestar_999 said:
Also send your cousin this link:
Intel Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K Review

It sure runs hot. Another thing I noticed here that R5 2600 is matching closely i7 9700K in performance with less power consumption.
R5 3600 should do better probably!

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edurgesh said:
It sure runs hot. Another thing I noticed here that R5 2600 is matching closely i7 9700K in performance with less power consumption.
R5 3600 should do better probably!

Yes,R5 3600 is ~17% faster than 2600 & don't forget that Indian climate is much hotter(except for some areas) compared to US/EU testing rooms.

Simplyclick. Total was around 25 k I guess.

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whitestar_999 said:
Yes,R5 3600 is ~17% faster than 2600 & don't forget that Indian climate is much hotter(except for some areas) compared to US/EU testing rooms.

Ok, that means R5 3600 will perform very similar to i7 7900K! Amazing value provided by AMD!!

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edurgesh said:
Ok, that means R5 3600 will perform very similar to i7 7900K! Amazing value provided by AMD!!

Exactly & that is why for most user cases ryzen 3600 is perfect if it fits in budget.

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whitestar_999 said:
Exactly & that is why for most user cases ryzen 3600 is perfect if it fits in budget.

For the price of one i7 9700k we can easily buy two R5 3600, or CPU+M/B both! Most of the people still go based on the image created in past.

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edurgesh said:
For the price of one i7 9700k we can easily buy two R5 3600, or CPU+M/B both! Most of the people still go based on the image created in past.

Applies to most things in India incl politics.

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whitestar_999 said:
Applies to most things in India incl politics.

That's true!

After talking to her over phone I came to know that few more parts have been changed from the suggested config:

1. CPU i7 9700K Rs. 33,000
2. CPU Fan Intel Rs. 02,500
3. GPU 1050Ti Rs. 10,000
4. M/B Gigabyte Z390M Rs. 11,500
5. RAM Corsair (8GB x 2) Rs. 06,500
6. Monitor Dell 20" Rs. 05,000
7. UPS Rs. 01,500

Looks like lots of stuff is changed from the planned config, and they have placed the order from a local vendor; the total cost is around Rs. 87,000.

I don't have the full config provided by the vendor, and still not sure how come all these come for 87,000?
Anyway, now it's finalized by them; nothing much can be done. Now only hope I have that it's not compromised too much.

Thanks a lot friends for your valuable inputs and suggestions!
I really appreciate that helping nature from @whitestar_999 !!

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edurgesh said:
That's true!

After talking to her over phone I came to know that few more parts have been changed from the suggested config:

1. CPU i7 9700K Rs. 33,000
2. CPU Fan Intel Rs. 02,500
3. GPU 1050Ti Rs. 10,000
4. M/B Gigabyte Z390M Rs. 11,500
5. RAM Corsair (8GB x 2) Rs. 06,500
6. Monitor Dell 20" Rs. 05,000
7. UPS Rs. 01,500

Looks like lots of stuff is changed from the planned config, and they have placed the order from a local vendor; the total cost is around Rs. 87,000.

I don't have the full config provided by the vendor, and still not sure how come all these come for 87,000?
Anyway, now it's finalized by them; nothing much can be done. Now only hope I have that it's not compromised too much.

Thanks a lot friends for your valuable inputs and suggestions!
I really appreciate that helping nature from @whitestar_999 !!

Thanks!

I will be frank,please don't mind.Your cousin's selection is probably the worst combination considering the budget & value for money aspects. I don't expect even smooth running let alone performance running from this config,a classic case of wasting money by listening to "friends/shopkeepers" instead of spending some effort to do a little research. See for yourself,the mobo selected is of lowest tier which I wouldn't get it even for free to run i7 9700k.
*www.overclock.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250662&d=1548963030
That Rs.2500 cpu fan won't even be able to run processor without reaching 100C in 10-15 min of doing some serious 2d/3d rendering with processor usage ~70-80% & this is with no overclocking.She will almost certainly experience thermal throttling because of high temps resulting in not getting the 9700k full performance despite paying full price for it.
That 1050Ti also is a poor choice when 1650 is available for similar/a little higher price & with almost 28% better overall performance.
That 8gb*2 ram will also prove to be inadequate sooner or later.
The monitor is poor quality too.

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whitestar_999 said:
Thanks!

I will be frank,please don't mind.Your cousin's selection is probably the worst combination considering the budget & value for money aspects. I don't expect even smooth running let alone performance running from this config,a classic case of wasting money by listening to "friends/shopkeepers" instead of spending some effort to do a little research. See for yourself,the mobo selected is of lowest tier which I wouldn't get it even for free to run i7 9700k.
*www.overclock.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250662&d=1548963030
That Rs.2500 cpu fan won't even be able to run processor without reaching 100C in 10-15 min of doing some serious 2d/3d rendering with processor usage ~70-80% & this is with no overclocking.She will almost certainly experience thermal throttling because of high temps resulting in not getting the 9700k full performance despite paying full price for it.
That 1050Ti also is a poor choice when 1650 is available for similar/a little higher price & with almost 28% better overall performance.
That 8gb*2 ram will also prove to be inadequate sooner or later.
The monitor is poor quality too.

Dear @whitestar_999 , I can understand your frustration; I'm also in the same boat. We tried our best to build the best possible config, but somehow they messed up the things.

Right now, the main culprit in the new system are CPU and Motherboard, other thinks like GPU, RAM, monitor can be upgraded later, of course at more cost. I've already suggested them to not go for 'K' processor; maybe we can suggest a better motherboard for i7 9700 and let them make the final call if it's not already built. This change will fix the basics to some extent; leave other parts for future upgrade.

The thing is that they recently moved to Pune and asked me for a computer vendor, I offered them to provide the config and few vendors to get the parts and get it assembled. I also offered them to buy online, but I cannot push them too aggressively.

Thanks again!

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At least try to get mobo changed to this Buy Online Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE Intel Z390 Chipset Motherboard - in India & i7 9700 instead of 9700k.

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whitestar_999 said:
At least try to get mobo changed to this Buy Online Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE Intel Z390 Chipset Motherboard - in India & i7 9700 instead of 9700k.

I've asked them to change the motherboard to this, and cpu to i7 9700, not 'K' version ASAP.
Thanks!

edurgesh said:
That's true!

After talking to her over phone I came to know that few more parts have been changed from the suggested config:

1. CPU i7 9700K Rs. 33,000
2. CPU Fan Intel Rs. 02,500
3. GPU 1050Ti Rs. 10,000
4. M/B Gigabyte Z390M Rs. 11,500
5. RAM Corsair (8GB x 2) Rs. 06,500
6. Monitor Dell 20" Rs. 05,000
7. UPS Rs. 01,500

Looks like lots of stuff is changed from the planned config, and they have placed the order from a local vendor; the total cost is around Rs. 87,000.

I don't have the full config provided by the vendor, and still not sure how come all these come for 87,000?
Anyway, now it's finalized by them; nothing much can be done. Now only hope I have that it's not compromised too much.

Thanks a lot friends for your valuable inputs and suggestions!
I really appreciate that helping nature from @whitestar_999 !!

Sorry for the late reply. Return these overpriced parts except for the ram maybe (only if it is 3000 Mhz or higher).

Edit: You should've got either 4 sticks of 8 GB each or just 2 of 16GB in this budget. You have a right to get best config and not what the shopkeeper forces you to buy. Demand a full refund if he disagrees. A monitor worth 5k is a bad option for color accurate animation work. It would have a 768p TN panel which I won't suggest even for normal home usage.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Sorry for the late reply. Return these overpriced parts except for the ram maybe (only if it is 3000 Mhz or higher).

Edit: You should've got either 4 sticks of 8 GB each or just 2 of 16GB in this budget. You have a right to get best config and not what the shopkeeper forces you to buy. Demand a full refund if he disagrees. A monitor worth 5k is a bad option for color accurate animation work. It would have a 768p TN panel which I won't suggest even for normal home usage.

Hey, why sorry my friend; it's alright. Actually I've suggested this to one relative who is undergoing Adobe training and needs a new PC quickly. We provided the best possible config as suggested by @whitestar_999 in the budget, but people in her institute including their staff members insisted only on Intel processor which eventually skewed the whole budget towards CPU and compromised other parts.

Initially they selected i7 9700K and a cheap Z390M motherboard; now I've asked them to change the CPU to non 'K' version and get a better motherboard as suggested by @whitestar_999 . I don't think changing all the parts will be possible because this will increase the budget significantly, unless they leave that CPU and move to AMD CPU.

Thanks!

edurgesh said:
Hey, why sorry my friend; it's alright. Actually I've suggested this to one relative who is undergoing Adobe training and needs a new PC quickly. We provided the best possible config as suggested by @whitestar_999 in the budget, but people in her institute including their staff members insisted only on Intel processor which eventually skewed the whole budget towards CPU and compromised other parts.

Initially they selected i7 9700K and a cheap Z390M motherboard; now I've asked them to change the CPU to non 'K' version and get a better motherboard as suggested by @whitestar_999 . I don't think changing all the parts will be possible because this will increase the budget significantly, unless they leave that CPU and move to AMD CPU.

Thanks!

You didn't mention which ssd, PSU and cabinet are present and for all we know, the shopkeeper gave them crap ones which won't work in the long term.

The config suggested by @whitestar_999 (New PC for 2D/3D Animation Work under 75K) and in your post (New PC for 2D/3D Animation Work under 75K) are pretty good. They fit easily in your budget too.

There's still time to return it all and buy good parts.

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SaiyanGoku said:
There's still time to return it all and buy good parts.

Nothing can be done,I am well familiar with this institutes' preferring intel policy & their influence on students not having the info to judge it.

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SaiyanGoku said:
You didn't mention which ssd, PSU and cabinet are present and for all we know, the shopkeeper gave them crap ones which won't work in the long term.

They are saying other parts are kept same as suggested by us, though I've not seen the config myself.

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whitestar_999 said:
Nothing can be done,I am well familiar with this institutes' preferring intel policy & their influence on students not having the info to judge it.

Quite true. Initially they were ready to go for our suggested config, but after discussing it in her institute everything got changed.

whitestar_999 said:
Nothing can be done,I am well familiar with this institutes' preferring intel policy & their influence on students not having the info to judge it.

edurgesh said:
Quite true. Initially they were ready to go for our suggested config, but after discussing it in her institute everything got changed.

I've known colleges who give "free" laptops to students by including its MRP in college fee (irrespective of how it actually performs or how old/bad it is). But it is absurd to force students to get specific hardware with their own money when the software doesn't even depends on it.

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SaiyanGoku said:
I've known colleges who give "free" laptops to students by including its MRP in college fee (irrespective of how it actually performs or how old/bad it is). But it is absurd to force students to get specific hardware with their own money when the software doesn't even depends on it.

If they are giving it so called FREE, then also it's ok, but here we are paying for our own system. They have a very strong opinion about Intel processors; the only solution I see is that don't ever approach them for PC suggestion, but then most of the people don't do their own research or know anyone knowledgeable in that area.

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edurgesh said:
the only solution I see is that don't ever approach them for PC suggestion, but then most of the people don't do their own research or know anyone knowledgeable in that area.

Exactly! Once you get everything then there is nothing they can do except complaining a bit for few days as one can always make an excuse of can't return now.

edurgesh said:
If they are giving it so called FREE, then also it's ok, but here we are paying for our own system. They have a very strong opinion about Intel processors; the only solution I see is that don't ever approach them for PC suggestion, but then most of the people don't do their own research or know anyone knowledgeable in that area.

Would you be able to share the institute's name here? I'd put it in my blacklist for reference.

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whitestar_999 said:
Exactly! Once you get everything then there is nothing they can do except complaining a bit for few days as one can always make an excuse of can't return now.

Yes, in fact it will be used at home so how does it even matter to the institute. Only if one can totally avoid them in this regard!

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SaiyanGoku said:
Would you be able to share the institute's name here? I'd put it in my blacklist for reference.

Ok sure, I'll find it out from her; but not sure how it will help others.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Would you be able to share the institute's name here? I'd put it in my blacklist for reference.

It's Arena Animation in Pune.