New PC Rig .. Want To Buy Till Feb End.

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Hey Guys,
its me again...sorry for making a thread again but my purchasing of system was postponed due to unavoidable reasons..

So,
Please Help Me Again Guys

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Web Browsing , Casual Gaming(i am not a pro at gaming but love it ) , hd movies

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 40k can extend to MAX 43k for balanced configuration

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Dont Know What Exactly It Is..Need Guidance

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 , 8 , Occasional Ubuntu

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: want to get a full hd led monitor 20" ... if 22' fits in my budget then perfect.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: UPS

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Anytime Between 25feb - 1 march

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:I Have never built a desktop and this will be done by a assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I live in delhi and planning to buy only locally from nehru place (SMC International) ... no online

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Yes, my previous rig made by help of many people
Processor - i5 2310
Motherboard - ga-b75m-d3h
Ram - Corsair 1333(VS)
Hard disk - WD Caviar Green 1 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (WD10EZRX)
Optical drive - Asus DRW-24B5ST Internal Optical Drive
Monitor - Dell in2030m (20")
Keyboard mouse - Mk200 combo
Joystick - Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Analog 3 (PC)
Psu - corsair cx430v2
Gpu - Gigabyte HD 7750 oc (GIGABYTE GV-R775OC-1GI)
Cabinet - cooler master elite 430
Mouse pad - razer golathius fragged omega
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Speakers - logitech stereo z120
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NET : 42.2k

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i3 3220 7k
ga b75m d3h 4k
gskill or corsair 4gb 1600mhz 1.5k
wd caviar blue 1tb 5k
asus dvd writer 1k
gigabyte HD7770oc 9k
corsair cx430 v2 2.5k
nzxt source 210 2.8k (with 1 usb 3.0)
dell st2030in 6.5k
mk200 0.7k
Razer mouse pad 0.5k
TOTAL 40.5k

With the rest amount buy joystick and speakers...
Hope this helps

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hitman4 said:
i3 3220 7k
ga b75m d3h 4k
gskill or corsair 4gb 1600mhz 1.5k
wd caviar blue 1tb 5k
asus dvd writer 1k
gigabyte HD7770oc 9k
corsair cx430 v2 2.5k
nzxt source 210 2.8k (with 1 usb 3.0)
dell st2030in 6.5k
mk200 0.7k
Razer mouse pad 0.5k
TOTAL 40.5k

With the rest amount buy joystick and speakers...
Hope this helps

bro,thanka for the help but few things i need to make clear -
I need an I5 for sure because i have my sister in college doing software engineering so she will be getting a laptop next year so till that she will be also using the same desktop and her requeirement is i5...but she would use desktop once in a blue moon

....
And wouldnt just 7750 work instead of 7770? Because i am not pro gamer but i like playing games

So pls suggest accordingly...

I need an I5 for sure because i have my sister in college doing software engineering so she will be getting a laptop next year so till that she will be also using the same desktop and her requeirement is i5...but she would use desktop once in a blue moon ....

Sure you can get an i5 config, just replace the i3 3220 with an i5 3550 (12400, ~5000 extra over i3) or an i5 3450 (11100, ~4000 extra over i3), as your max. budget is 43k, you can extend it by 2k and get an i5 3550. BTW, what does your sister want to do which an i5 can do and an i3 cannot?

And wouldnt just 7750 work instead of 7770? Because i am not pro gamer but i like playing games

The price difference between 7750 and 7770 is just about 2k, and 7770 is a very good card for that budget, you won't regret.

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Actually,she is not really invloved into computers and just knows that basics so there is no point asking her out that why does she need i5..but her teacher said that i5is a requirement...so...
And i cant go even a penny more than 43k buddy.. :\!!

And i cant go even a penny more than 43k buddy.. :\!!

Okay, well first of all let me tell you that hitman4's config is very good for your budget, so let me try to save some cash here and there in that config;

> go for LG DVD drive, you'll get it for Rs.900 localy, instead of Asus's Rs.1000 saved: Rs.100 :-D

> go for any iball / zebronics cabinet available locally instead of nzxt source, you'll get it for about Rs.1000 along with a crappy PSU. You can even return that crappy psu back to the shopkeeper for around Rs.400, saved: Rs.1800 (+400 if you return the psu)
> don't take the Razer mouse pad as you aren't into any serious gaming :razz:

saved: Rs.500

Total saving: Rs. Rs.2400 (+400 if you return the crappy psu)

At hitman4's config priced 40.5K, and you've saved Rs.2400, and your max badget is 43K, that leaves you with Rs.5400, so now you can easily replace i3 3220 with i5 3550 :mrgreen:

but her teacher said that i5is a requirement

Trust me, she/he would not even be knowing the difference between i3 and i5 or that there are multiple versions of i5 available :-D

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Umm actually you are right with the i3point...but wont it give future guarantee of not being my dektop old?
I3would go back but i5 could atleast stand somewhere?
And trust me i wont upgrade any of my compnent till atleast 3-4years except mouse keyboard....

And to the cabby and pad - i will be buying a cm 310 or 430 cuz i need looks and performance both...so...no local...so no saving

...but i guess i3 could work...i could ask my dad out?
I will let you knw till tomorow from my dad?
Thanks!

Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 11000
Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H - Rs 5500
Gskill Ripjaws 4GB - Rs 1900
GPU - Asus GTX650TI-1GD5 - Rs 10,300
HDD - Seagate 1TB - Rs 4300
SMPS - Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
Cabinet - NZXT Beta EVO - Rs 2600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor - AOC LED 22" (I-2251FWE) IPS panel (1920x1080 LED) - Rs 8200

Total - Rs 47,275

Second Option

Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 11000
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H - Rs 4300
Gskill Ripjaws 4GB- Rs 1900
GPU - GIGABYTE GV-R777OC-1GD - Rs 7900
HDD - Seagate 1TB - Rs 4300
SMPS - Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
Cabinet - NZXT Beta EVO - Rs 2600
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975
Monitor - AOC LED 22" (I-2251FWE) IPS panel (1920x1080 LED) - Rs 8200

Total - Rs 43675

RAM prices have suddenly gone through the roof. VAlue RAMS are also retailing for Rs 1450 onstead of 1150 and so is 1600MHZ Gskill previously Rs 1600 now Rs 1900!!!!

So guys consider real time pricing before suggesting.

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Incinerator - 2nd is really good and would fit in my budget...thanks bro!
But wouldnt any company like dell would work better than aoc??
And you gave net for 43.6 and kb mouse,joytick isnt listed..so 1.6 for that also so my buget would exceed...can i degrade something?
Try to understand bro.

Yes you can degrade on certain things and they are........kb, mouse,joytick :twisted:

Dont compromise on core components for I/O devices.

DELL IPS will cost Rs 9100 that is S2240L if you can get it great otherwise you cant fault the AOC. Always remember DELL is a Glorified PC assembler just like HP etc etc......and is not an OEM like AOC/Samsung and the likes.

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On the hard disk part i have very much confusion... Because i have people saying that my wd is corrupt some people saying that my segate is gone bad...
Some say segate is good and some say wd is good...
Which should i take as a 3year gurantee of its success?

Okay,to be very frank i didnt get most of what you said

But okay,as a experienced person you are suggesting me aoc so i would go with that

And can i change my cabinet to some cm as they are coolish sort of...
How about cm 430?

Get A Toshiba if you can, offers 2 years of warranty.
For Cabinet get this.......K380 (for APAC only) - Cooler Master

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Toshiba?
Reliable?
Price?

K380- according to me "Awesome ,looks wise as i dont know much bout its specifications)
But what is apaC?
Would it harm any of my rig?
Price on flipkart - 3.2k?
My budget would again exceed?

APAC is Asia Pacific or region specific. Nothing to harm anything.
Get it from Nehru place, should be around Rs 3000.

OK...Toshiba is reliable, Yes. They actually own half of WDs business!!!! And Invented a lot of stuff...in how HDDs work to this day.

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Please give exact model no. Of hard disk that you recommend?

Actually please just directly write the whole configuration again...
Please

The final configuration with the mouse keyboard speakers :

Anyone?

Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 11000
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H - Rs 4300
MSI HD7770 Rs.8164
Logitech MK200 combo Rs.750
AOC 21.5 inch LED - I2251FWE Rs.8290
LG Optical drive Rs.1000
G.Skill RipjawX 4 GB 1333 MHz Rs.1600
Corsair cx430v2 Rs.2700
Seagate 1TB - Rs 4300

Total: 42104

That leaves you with low budget for cabinet. If you could arrange Rs.1000 ~ 1500 (you must be having some savings...) then you can get a pretty cabinet.

And, now do not go back to i as you can easily accommodate an i5, don't compromise on core parts.

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I was thinking...what if i buy a 2nd gen i5 instead of 3rd gen?
I could save around 1k on that?
And incinerator suggested me 1600mhz ram and u are suggeating 1333?
Which one should i go for?
And please give me suggetion for toshiba hdd with model and price..

Thankyou!

And i now have to buy WIRELESSmouse-keyboard..and my budget can now increases by 500bucks -1k (At Max)

So Final Budget - 44k(at most)
44.5k (if realy really needed)

Dont buy a wireless mouse. They have serious lag.

Toshiba DT01ACA100 - TOSHIBA INTERNAL 1TB 3.5 INCH 7200 RPM DT01ACA100 online shopping india at lowest prices
Theitdepot - Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM SATA Internal Desktop Hard Drive (DT01ACA100)

The Toshiba has 3 YEARS OF WARRANTY which no other HDD manufacturerer provides at the moment. And the performance is mind blowing.

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Okay agreed to mouse keyboard now buying corded...but please tell me what if i buy a 2nd i5 ? I could get 1k less?

As right now i am having my net as 45.5k?
If i reduce 1k by i5 i could get it fit in my budget.

Just tell me what is better to degarde?
I5 or monitor from 22" to 20" or hd7770 to hd7750?

Processor?monitor?gpu?

Thanks!

Try and get a cheaper TN panel 22 inch monitor and save there. The monitor I suggested is an IPS panel. Get a cheaper 22 incher.

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I dont have any knowledge about monitor except some basic...please cN you tell me whats ips pannel and tn pannel?
Or can you just suggest me?
Please?
And whats the prob degrading i5 to 2nd gen?

Get this as a monitor PHILIPS LED 22"(226V3L) Rs 7200 at Cost to Cost.

3rd Gen i5- ivy-bridge uses 22nm lithography/die
Higher base clock speeds
powerfull built in gpu with hd 4000
overclocking potential is slighly weak

2nd Gen - sandy-bridge uses 32nm lithography/die
Lower base clock speeds
Lesser Built in gpu with hd 3000
overclocking potential is better than ivy

Ivy consumes less power too. And it dosnt make sense buy old stuff when buying a new PC. Does it?

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The Incinerator said:
Get this as a monitor PHILIPS LED 22"(226V3L) Rs 7200 at Cost to Cost.

3rd Gen i5- ivy-bridge uses 22nm lithography/die
Higher base clock speeds
powerfull built in gpu with hd 4000
overclocking potential is slighly weak

2nd Gen - sandy-bridge uses 32nm lithography/die
Lower base clock speeds
Lesser Built in gpu with hd 3000
overclocking potential is better than ivy

Ivy consumes less power too. And it dosnt make sense buy old stuff when buying a new PC. Does it?

Thanks a lot my friend...i was first buying from smc but now will be buying from cost to cosr as they give products for lesser price as compared to smc...
A big difference..
Checkout my finalized rig :

Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 10390 (price checked on cost to cost)
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H - Rs 3900 (price checked on cost to cost)
Gskill Ripjaws 4GB 1600mhz- Rs 1900
GPU - GIGABYTE GV-R777OC-1GD - Rs 7800 (price checked on cost to cost)
HDD - Toshiba 1TB (DT01ACA100)- Rs 3900 (price checked on cost to cost)
SMPS - Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
Cabinet - Cm k380 -Rs 3000
OPD -Asus DRW-24B5ST Internal Optical Drive- 1000
Monitor - PHILIPS LED 22"(226V3L -7200 (price checked on cost to cost)

Mouse Keyboard - mk200 combo - 750 (price checked on cost to cost)
Speakers - z120 - 600

Total - Rs 42940 + 1405 vat
= 44345

Now,i was wondering...the aoc monitor you suggested was therefor 7800 ... Is it worth the 600bucks?
Shall i go for thT?
And thr gpu - shall. Go with sapphire?
Cuz only sapphire hd7770 was listed there?
Thanks!

Is this true?
What the guy wrote here?
Isnt it safe to buy products for cost to cost? :O

Someone? Please reply?

Add 4% Vat to those prices from Cost to Cost.

Get the Gigabyte card from SMC Rs 7900 all inclusive,I believe.

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Is it safe to purchase from there?
See the image in my last post.

Is it safe to purchase from there?
See the image in my last post.

I have no Idea....But SMC is safe and after adding the VAT price will be at par with SMC.

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Yesyou are right after adding the vat the net in cost to cost becomes - Rs 44345
And in smc the net comes to be 44050
But are these totals inclusive all taxes? Ie,the final bill i will get?

Is this the final bill which i will get on smc ?
Rs 44050?
Or would i have anymore tax on this too?

Go for 1600 MHz ram, I mistakenly wrote 1333 MHz, was posting while going for exam, so things got mixed up :-D

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please tell me in the rig which incinerator gave me?
will i have to give additional tax on that?
or thats inclusive all taxes?

thankyou!

Technogeared007 said:
please tell me in the rig which incinerator gave me?
will i have to give additional tax on that?
or thats inclusive all taxes?

thankyou!

yeahm the incenerator's rig:

this one-
Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 10390 (price checked on cost to cost)
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H - Rs 3900 (price checked on cost to cost)
Gskill Ripjaws 4GB 1600mhz- Rs 1900
GPU - GIGABYTE GV-R777OC-1GD - Rs 7800 (price checked on cost to cost)
HDD - Toshiba 1TB (DT01ACA100)- Rs 3900 (price checked on cost to cost)
SMPS - Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
Cabinet - Cm k380 -Rs 3000
OPD -Asus DRW-24B5ST Internal Optical Drive- 1000
Monitor - PHILIPS LED 22"(226V3L -7200 (price checked on cost to cost)

Mouse Keyboard - mk200 combo - 750 (price checked on cost to cost)
Speakers - z120 - 600

Total - Rs 42940 + 1405 vat
= 44345

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this one is the one with prices from cost to cost and now when i came to know that we have to ay extra vat tax on this so now i will be purchasing from smc only...but the net which came out...will i have to play more as tax on that too?

i asked that the net which i was told was that the bill price?
or did it have tax on it?
was it inclusive all taxes or not?

4% is all the TAX you will have to pay. Nothing more. When you buy an entire system from a store get in to some hard bargaining, sometime it helps! :twisted:

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^nah,you arent getting me buddy...
The cost to cost rates i told you,remember which i said are very cheap...and then you said that i will have to 4%vat ... S that 4%vat was for all productsor on the total?
And then the smc total which came put to be 44050 is it the final bill?
Or would i have to pay extra tax on 44050 too?

Cost to cost add VAT.
SMC no need to add VAT.

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Yea thats answer i was looking for.

And 4% VAT on cost to cost i will have to give is it on each product idivisuqlly or on the total?

Yea thats answer i was looking for.

And 4% VAT on cost to cost i will have to give is it on each product idivisuqlly or on the total?

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VAT is 5% in Delhi

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hitman4 said:
VAT is 5% in Delhi

The Cost To Cost came out to be something around 42k .... i am asking if i have even 5% VAT on it , is it on each product individually or on the total? ie,42k?

Sorry,PLease Co-operate with me as i am an amateur.
ThankYou!

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Its on each product

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So My Finalized Configiration :

Intel Core i5 3470 - Rs 10500
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H - Rs 4000
Gskill Ripjaws 4GB 1600mhz- Rs 1900
GPU - GIGABYTE GV-R777OC-1GD - Rs 7800 ( will it be able to play all latest and upcoming games at good resloution? )
HDD - Toshiba 1TB (DT01ACA100)- Rs 4000
SMPS - Corsair CX430V2 - Rs 2500
Cabinet - Cm k380 -Rs 3000
OPD -Asus DRW-24B5ST Internal Optical Drive- 1000
Monitor - AOC LED 22" (I-2251FWE) IPS panel (1920x1080 LED) - Rs 8200 (i now can purchase it .. but worth every penny?)

Mouse Keyboard - mk200 combo - 750
Speakers - z120 - 600

NET : 44250

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i have decided this rig and will be purchasing this only but was wondering why didnt you guys suggest me AMD Based... ?

And one more query?
Would i get a cm k380 easily from nehru place?

ThankYou!

I am not sure about the performance of HD 7770 in 1080P resolution for the latest demanding games like Far Cry 3, Hitmat Absolution and upcoming Crysis 3. Better opt for GTX 650 Ti.

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Nope..wont be able to purchase 650ti as my budget doesnt permit...
Please tell me is 7770okay?
I am not a pro gamer and will be doing occasional gaming...
And also tell me a 22" hull hd led monitor except AOC(need something branded like dell) till 8.2k in which i can enjoy gaming and hd movies..
Thanks!

Cilus suggested the 650ti. I would have suggested the 7850.

This is a gaming system, try for the best gpu you can.
AOC is the best suited for your budget. The dell st2240 is around 9k i think.

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^ AS i told i will be doing occasional gaming only.

and suggest any full hd led phllips 22" monitor till 8k...
hows this : phillips 222EL2SB/00