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r4gs
r4gs Original post #1
Dec 12, 2010 at 2:47 AM
Well,
PC config below. PC has been lying unused for many months now and I need to buy a PSU to power it.

Any suggestions?

Budget is flexible and around 6k. I have a lot of fluctuations in my area, which were actually responsible for blowing my coolermaster and mobo so I need a more sturdy one now.


PC Config:-

Intel Core2duo e7400
2x2gb DDRII 800MHz RAM
nvidia GTX 275
1x500gb HDD
1x1tb HDD
ASUS mobo

The PSU also needs to be future proof enough to handle an upgrade to an i7 and DDRIII RAM or AMD equivalent in the near future.

Thanks
topgear
topgear #2
Dec 12, 2010 at 4:54 AM
^^ Post in the Proper Section from next time

Get Corsair HX/TX 650 - it would be the best deal for you and.
Ishu Gupta
Dec 12, 2010 at 6:22 AM
TX650W @ 6.5k as said by topgear.
VX550W for 4.5k will also be enough for a single card setup.
abirthedevil
Dec 12, 2010 at 7:28 PM
which cooler master psu did u have? im guessing extreme power............ right, am i?
corsair vx550 should be more than enough to power your rig
r4gs
r4gs #5
Dec 13, 2010 at 12:40 AM
I see that the 550 has 41A on the 12V rail. Seeing that my 275 needs 40, is that going to be enough to handle a future upgrade?

Also, how is antec?

@abirth:-Check my signature...:) Yes it was a coolermaster extreme power.

How is the Antec Earthwatts 650? It has 3x12V rails with about 22A each.

The only downside is the 3 yr warranty compared to Corsair.

I am actually leaning towards the "Corsair Gaming Series Gold 700W Power Supply (CMPSU-700G)" as it has 56A on the 12V along with a slightly better active PFC from 90-264, which I feel is better due to the fluctuations in my area.

Also note that I am a n00b when it comes to PSUs so I could be wrong on everything. Please advise!!!
topgear
topgear #6
Dec 13, 2010 at 7:00 AM
any idea about corsair 700G price ?

I think HX series has better build quality than Gaming series ( GS ) psus.
S_V
S_V #7
Dec 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Corsair HX series are rock solid and their efficiency is truly awesome. Actually they are Gold certified PSU's but corsair wants their AX series to be called Gold officially.. According to rigorousness testing from JonnyGuru.com they themselves told this fact....
skeletor
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM
Ignore Corsair Gaming series aka GS and also ignore TX series for the while. The newer CWT OEM are not that great.

Go for Corsair HX650 @ 7.4k. It will be worth it.
r4gs
r4gs #9
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM
@topgear:- itdepot puts the 700g at about 6k. It is good that you pointed it out. Turns out that the TX 650 is only rs500 more, but also has 2 more years of warranty along with the same PFC rating and 52A on the 12V.

It seems like the TX is the better option at the moment.

The HX is even better in terms of specs, but its expensive. At least 1k more than the TX.
S_V
S_V #10
Dec 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM
yeah, but 1k is worth for Modular cabling which helps lot of airflow and clean system...

Use cables only needed is good for cabinet and Components... The rest unused ones can be safely stored in a pouch given by corsair.. It's just i am telling to make good use of your hard earned money ;-)
The Sorcerer
Dec 13, 2010 at 5:20 PM
Take this advice from someone who owns a TX series and a full tower- you're lot better with a modular. It doesn't affect the cooling or anything (unless you're using the cable as a wall :p) but you're saving the hassle when you're doing cable management. Its obviously worth it.
r4gs
r4gs #12
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:36 PM
If I had the budget to go modular I would. As it happens I don't. So TX it is for now.

:D

Also, I've never really had a problem with cooling. Most PSU's are placed at the top of the cabinet and blow air downward or outward, I've got a couple of exhaust fans suitably placed to handle it. Plus, all the unused cables are bunched up in a cubby hole.
asingh
asingh #13
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Take this advice from someone who owns a TX series and a full tower- you're lot better with a modular. It doesn't affect the cooling or anything (unless you're using the cable as a wall :p) but you're saving the hassle when you're doing cable management. Its obviously worth it.

I have a TX in a mid tower. Seriously.
:(
The Sorcerer
Dec 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM
^^ I've been there!!! Done that! Not a pretty sight at all.
r4gs
r4gs #16
Dec 14, 2010 at 3:41 AM
Yes I know its ugly. Can't help it though. :(
r4gs
r4gs #18
Dec 14, 2010 at 3:48 PM
No idea. Some mercury cabinet I think. Quite heavy and sturdy though. It has vents over the g card and cpu along with 1 front and 1 rear vent.

To aid the cooling I've added a large intake fan in the front and an exhaust over the CPU.
topgear
topgear #19
Dec 15, 2010 at 5:11 AM
^^ Ok .. thanks.

BTW, have you ordered/bought the PSU ?
r4gs
r4gs #20
Dec 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Not yet. I'll be getting it after the 17th.
Cilus
Cilus #21
Dec 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM
That's an overkill for that cabby ! :p

Looks like Spider Man is staying inside my cabinet....
or lots of Anaconda in their mating season from the Movie Anaconda 2..Hunt for the red orchid.:)):)):))
r4gs
r4gs #22
Dec 17, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Problem.

I'm not able to find the TX650 in stock anywhere for a reasonable price.

I was however offered a Coolermaster gx650 for almost the same price.

Any idea how good it is? On paper it has the same specs and warranty as the tx650 from corsair.
skeletor
skeletor #23
Dec 17, 2010 at 7:34 PM
I was however offered a Coolermaster gx650 for almost the same price.
Just forget about Cooler Master imho. Piyush had a CM GX series PSU and it gave him problems. He had to get it replaced twice and then finally settled for a Corsair unit.
Ishu Gupta
Dec 17, 2010 at 7:50 PM
^
Yeah I would rather pay a few more bucks for peace of mind.
r4gs
r4gs #25
Dec 17, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Ok. Good enough.

can you guys recommend any alternatives though? Antec? Tagan?

I can order the TX650 from ebay at a much higher price. I'll leave that out as a last resort though.
topgear
topgear #26
Dec 18, 2010 at 4:40 AM
No one matches the quality of Corsair HX650 - so even though it's pricey I recommend you to go for that anyway.
skeletor
skeletor #27
Dec 18, 2010 at 4:58 AM
Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze @ 5.6k

Seasonic S12D 750w Silver @ 6.7k

Both are non-modular. Check out www.theitwares.com
r4gs
r4gs #28
Dec 18, 2010 at 2:42 PM
I had actually asked about the seasonic PSUs. If I remember correctly, I was advised against them at the time.

But regardless, seasonic is even more rare than the Corsair Tx650.

One thing though, does it make a difference if you have multiple 12V rails vs opposed to a single?

Looks like ebay is the last option left.
Faun
Faun #29
Dec 18, 2010 at 3:07 PM
One thing though, does it make a difference if you have multiple 12V rails vs opposed to a single?
No, performance wise both are same.
Yes, safety wise multiple 12v rails is better.

Also, thoughts about seasonic:
*www.tomshardware.com/forum/281370-28-corsair-cmpsu-650hx-seasonic-x650-gold
Ishu Gupta
Dec 18, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Single or multi doesn't matter as long its a high quality PSU.

Multi's supply cleaner power but if your graphic card needs more than available on a single rail it won't work. So, multi should be avoided on low med end PSUs.
M
mrcool63 #31
Dec 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM
the corsair tx650 has verry high noise ripple. seasonic is much better in that aspect. and it seems seasonic 620w and corsair 650w perform the same
r4gs
r4gs #32
Dec 18, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Ok, so what you guys are saying is that seasonic or corsair, both are fine.

I'll be going to Lamington again in a few days to check on stocks.

One thing which I am wondering about is, how come nobody is recommending Antec? I thought they manufacture very good PSUs.
Faun
Faun #33
Dec 19, 2010 at 12:12 AM
^^Read this for everything about PSUs
PSU articles - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
r4gs
r4gs #34
Dec 19, 2010 at 3:23 AM
Brilliant! that is just what I needed. Thanks a lot!
r4gs
r4gs #35
Dec 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Managed to find a Seasonic S12D 750W for less than 7k with 5yr warranty.

Way overkill for my PC, but the only decent 600W+ unit currently available to me.
Faun
Faun #36
Dec 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM
congrats !

Btw pics please before you cut the ribbon.
abirthedevil
Dec 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Managed to find a Seasonic S12D 750W for less than 7k with 5yr warranty.

Way overkill for my PC, but the only decent 600W+ unit currently available to me.

where did u manage to find a seasonic psu? availability is so scarce
r4gs
r4gs #38
Dec 21, 2010 at 10:28 PM
I'll post the pics before opening don't worry. :)

I don't have it with me yet. Have to pick it up from the shop. Probably on thursday or friday.

@abirth:- My friend did a bit of scouting for me at Lamington and managed to place an order for it. can't go tomorrow for various reasons, so I'm collecting it later.
topgear
topgear #39
Dec 22, 2010 at 4:01 AM
^^ It's a modular or non-modular PSU ??
abirthedevil
Dec 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM
@r4gs you mumbaikars are so lucky you guys probably have the largest IT selection in india
M
mrcool63 #41
Dec 22, 2010 at 3:29 PM
dude try to get one for me also...:grin:
M
mrcool63 #43
Dec 23, 2010 at 12:16 AM
still quite a bargain. just hope its not the TX series. very very bad ripple
topgear
topgear #44
Dec 23, 2010 at 5:44 AM
must be a non modular
750W under 7k is rare

Thanks for the info - btw, got a review of that PSU and seems like it's very good :

Seasonic S12D 750 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets
abirthedevil
Dec 23, 2010 at 6:07 AM
the psu seems to be simply awesome, great buy for under7k
r4gs
r4gs #46
Dec 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM
sorry guys been very busy.

Anyway, the power supply seems to be really good. Especially at 6.5k. The tx650 from corsair retails for around the same amount.

This was the last psu in stock i could find. Most of the guys at lamington haven't even heard of it.

It is available if you guys place an order.
I don't remember the shop's name as my friend placed the order, but i'll find out and post it here.

The unit is 80+ silver certified, so quite efficient. Non-modular, the s12m is modular.

A total of 62a on the 12v rails.
V
vav #47
Dec 23, 2010 at 8:04 PM
share the name and location.
i will be visiting lamington in next week.
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Piyush
Piyush #48
Dec 23, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Thanks for the info - btw, got a review of that PSU and seems like it's very good :

Seasonic S12D 750 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets

man!!!
this is really something
bang for the buck
r4gs
r4gs #49
Dec 28, 2010 at 11:27 PM
hi guys,
First of all, a belated merry christmas and a very happy new year in advance. ('cause i don't know when i'll have a chance to grt online again)
Sorry about the delay again, but, exams. So i just can't be bothered to come online! :D

Anyway, finally got my hands on the psu today. I'll post the pics once i get around to openning it.

Good news for all you guys who want it. The psu isn't in stock, but the chap takes orders if you want it. The good news here is that the shop, as it turns out, is better known as TheITWares - One Stop for all Gizmos!TheITwares Ecommerce!

By the way, according to some reviews i found, it seems the san ace fan on this is unit supposedly gives me bragging rights!

So......
Hah! I have a san ace fan! So there!
(can't figure out why a fan is so special though)
topgear
topgear #50
Dec 29, 2010 at 4:15 AM
^^ congrats ! waiting for pics ....
blademast3r
Dec 29, 2010 at 5:16 AM
corsair hx650 or since u said u have prob with fluctuations go for antec true power new 650, great stable voltages. also fluctuations can b prevented with a good belkin spike buster
r4gs
r4gs #52
Dec 29, 2010 at 1:19 PM
@blade:- hmmm... Thank you for the recommendation, but if you read further you will find that the hx650 is out of my budget and that i have already purchased a seasonic psu. :)
r4gs
r4gs #53
Jan 5, 2011 at 11:43 PM
Finally! managed to setup my PC.
Here are the pics. Much delayed, as usual.


*rapidshare.com/files/440970349/Seasonic.rar
skeletor
skeletor #54
Jan 6, 2011 at 12:12 AM
Congrats.

Use ImageShack.us and post the thumbnails. ;)
topgear
topgear #55
Jan 6, 2011 at 6:17 AM
spend a little bit of your time and post the images in here - as those are 640*480 I think they will fit in here perfectly.
r4gs
r4gs #56
Jan 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Sure. Couldn't figure out how to put up the images so I used rapidshare.

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I'll sort it out when I get home. Using a mobile at the moment.

Sorry.
R
rajan1311 #57
Jan 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM
just check the tags bro.. :)

Sure. Couldn't figure out how to put up the images so I used rapidshare.
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lemme see if i can fix it..

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Piyush
Piyush #58
Jan 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM
hmmm...i see quality there
congrats..
r4gs
r4gs #59
Jan 6, 2011 at 10:54 PM
@rajan1311:- Thanks a lot.
@everyone else: Thanks.

Bit of a pain checking the tags using opera mini! :D

Some notes:-
PSU is bigger than my old coolermaster
A very large no. of cables/longer cables in comparison.
Now I understand why you need a modular PSU. It was hell trying to stuff the excess cables into their cubby hole in my cabinet. No hassles with the coolermaster.
The PSU fan is very silent.
Faun
Faun #60
Jan 6, 2011 at 11:22 PM
^^palatable to my taste :)
vickybat
vickybat #61
Jan 6, 2011 at 11:59 PM
^^Read this for everything about PSUs
PSU articles - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net


Great article faun. Extremely informative.

Thanks