New Thread for a new phone 11-14.5k budget

I know there are many similar threads before but their requirements are different and so i am creating this new thread .
I am selling my ipod touch and also my samsung wave 533 .
I was first looking to buy ipod touch 32gb but , now i have decided to buy a better phone instead of carrying 2 separate devices everytime .
After deciding on a budget of 10k first , now i have decided to increase it to 14.5k !
To cut short ,
Priorities are (not in order )
Good sound quality , Good OS , Looks , Camera atleast 5 MP , GPS for my car .
Budget : Not more then 14.5k !

In this budget The samsung Ace comes in mind but i dont think its worth 14.5k ! another option is Spice MI410 , specs are good but then again its spice :grin:

Lastly there is motorola defy but thats above my budget .
Sorry for the long post but please do suggest , i will be buying within next 10 days .

Samsung Ace - NO, NO

Spice Mi410 is just re-sold by Spice, it's a HUWAEI Ideos X6 phone in reality.

And for your budget, I would happily recommend the Spice Mi410 @ 14k, IMO fits your requirements, and currently is the best in price phone.

Moto Defy is a decent phone in that price range...

how about Nokia C6-01? other than a good OS it satisfy OP's requirement fully.

Moto Defy if you want a Android phone
else a Nokia C6-01 for better camera

@rohan_mhtr The only way you can be happy with replacing iPod Touch is when you have phone that can truly match it (audio and video quality, gaming and lagfree UI) and I don't think any midrange phones can do that. I am telling you this by experience. I sold off iPod Touch and Legend for N900 and I am happy because of the superb audio and video quality of N900. I check few midrange devices and none of them could please me.

PS: The iPhone 3GS is now available for 19,999/- and is a very good price as you will be right at home from day 1.

Sam said:
how about Nokia C6-01? other than a good OS it satisfy OP's requirement fully.

Good choice, but keeping in mind Spice Mi410 has a good camera already, better screen resolution and priced 14k only!

comp@ddict said:
Good choice, but keeping in mind Spice Mi410 has a good camera already, better screen resolution and priced 14k only!

yes, MI410 is much better but will OP be ready to invest in a local brand that too in a mobile manufacturers by some Chinese OEM? i doubt.

yes, MI410 is much better but will OP be ready to invest in a local brand that too in a mobile manufacturers by some Chinese OEM? i doubt.

And yet people go squack about Dell XCD 35, just remember it's made by a Chinese company, ZTE

Ok many people are suggesting spice MI410 , but i cant find any good reviews of it , also no matter how expensive spice mobile is , my friends will always think it as a cheap sub 2k chinese mobile :???:

Some are suggesting Moto defy , but really can i get it for Rs 14.5 k ?
@desibond , i know IOS of my ipod touch cant match others but i havent been using it from last 1 month and willing to sacrifice this on my part .
I went and had a look at C6 and to be honest my old samsung wave 533 looked far better then it

I think i will opt for android this time to replace ios .

Last query , hows the sound quality on MI410 and the defy ,is the output atleast loud ?

Edit :After watching a review of MI410 on youtube , i am inclined towards it but i rather buy motorola anyday if i find it for 14.5k !

rohan_mhtr said:
Moto defy , but really can i get it for Rs 14.5 k ?
motorola anyday if i find it for 14.5k !

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(There's COD payment option too available)

rohan_mhtr said:
Ok many people are suggesting spice MI410 , but i cant find any good reviews of it , also no matter how expensive spice mobile is , my friends will always think it as a cheap sub 2k chinese mobile

That mayb the Factor for u ,
Still go for Defy if u can Afford you can easily Overclock the Cpu ,if ur hell bent on 1ghz proccy(still the GPU wud be inferior though)
also check Youtube Defy plays many Hd games without any lag...
a great phone for Indian standards go for it

my friends will always think it as a cheap sub 2k chinese mobile

do you want a good phone or want to show friends a phone.

phone is personal use, and till you know you got the better deal and are satisfied, you don't need o give sh!t to what your friends or others think.

However, if you are so concious, get the Moto Defy instead.

comp@ddict said:
do you want a good phone or want to show friends a phone.

Both

, and i think most of the people would want that . And BTW i checked MI410 and it looks good , do you have any idea of its sound quality ?

Wow this Motorola phone looks really nice 1!! GREAT Resolution !!!! Really large screen . to be honest me too don;t really trust Spice brand , heck , i even rue the fact only Samsung and not Nokia aare coming up with Android phones. Motorola over Spice anyday.

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@Rohan ...
I Got my Moto Defy from letsbuy @14.4K (using coupon code 'ICICILB')last week, so its well within your budget. Go for it, Its GR8 Phone,
Mine comes with Froyo 2.2.2 out of box and with 2gb Memory card which i feel, is very less, considering upgrade of 16GB class4/6 till i find nice deal (so keep this in mind you are going to spend 1-1.5K extra later). Display is mind blowing, Processor can be easily overclock to 1Ghz Or shall i say run on its regular capacity as Moto has downgraded the frequency to save on battery front but I don't find battery bad as it last me for 2 days after heavy usage of games, wifi and bluetooth. (not overclocked it yet, want to enjoy phone as it is till month..then modding will start)
it handles HD gaming without any lag without any overclocknig.
Since i shifted from symbian, android is pleasant change for me.
I felt camera quality is ok not gr8 my n79 takes better picture indoor, music i am not audiophile so i am ok with it (dont expect Ipod quality) .. If you need IPOD quality go with Desibond suggestion of Iphone 3Gs @ 20K.
GPS Work gr8 for me in car (consider going for high data plans as it uses 3G/EDGE services a lot when out of wifi reach)
@azzu COD is not available for this offer according to my knowledge,
Also check with bluedart regulary for updates on your package. mine was with them for 2 days for some miscommunication about octroi. Letsbuy was very helpful durnig this time (no advertisement just sharing exprience

this is my first purchase with them)
hope this helps ..Keep us updated about ur final choice
Vaibhav
UPDATE : Just Checked now Defy is for 14599 after coupon on Letsbuy

Defy definitely seems a good deal on letsbuy..
wondering how the guys at letsbuy manage to offer this price

rohan_mhtr said:
also no matter how expensive spice mobile is , my friends will always think it as a cheap sub 2k chinese mobile

are u buying the phone for its flaunt factor
then ur better off with iphone 3gs

v.Na5h said:
are u buying the phone for its flaunt factor
then ur better off with iphone 3gs

Great post! I mean post of the day!

Go ahead OP, iPhone 3GS with all it's outdatedness at a double overpriced 20k, only for us Indians!

^^nice one!! :rofl:

...sometimes people come up with weirdest thoughts & they blurt it out too :lol:

LOL , thinking about buying Defy . But honestly we people do think twice before spending 15k on spice . How many people here have actually used MI410 ?

v.Na5h said:
are u buying the phone for its flaunt factor
then ur better off with iphone 3gs

I would have considerd it if its pricing was anything around 16k mark . And remember i am shifting from ipod touch's IOS and sound output was also my top priority just not looks and flaunts . But again i needed a good OS too and hence android . People who have used IOS before for a long duration would understand my dilemma !

@Vaibhav , thanks for your post , It was the most helpful . Tomorrow i will check the pricing of defy with my local dealer first . Online option would be second if the price difference is high . Also how is the sound quality via headphones , i mean is it loud enough ? I travel by mumbai locals to my office hence they need to be loud .

@rohan_mhtr

My dad bought an iPad last week. He also owns an iPhone 3GS. I agree with you that Apple products have very good built quality and overall experience. You know it when you use it...

To tell you the truth, you might be slightly uncomfortable while using Android. Its complicated... Turning off Wifi, 2G, GPS when not using it might seem odd. You have to close apps in the background... especially battery hog apps like Google Maps, Goggles, Camera app... That is the price you pay for true multitasking...

You never do that in an iPhone. The experience is very different.

I have used my friend's Incredible S. It seems slower than my modded Optimus One. UI not fluid enough. Coming from an iPod touch, you would feel a lot of difference.

Android is good. Very flexible. Highly customizable. Open to custom ROMS.

If you are ready to experiment and are willing to trade off the polish of iPhone for flexibility of Android, then go for Defy.

But if that is not what you are looking for, you should get an iPhone 3GS.

Cheers!

V

@Rohan ...
I know mumbai local rush. mubaikar here, not yet tested earphones quality on trains in rush hours but i feel its loud enough ... defy should be choice considering you are going to travel at rush hour ..water resistant, dust proof, scratch proof.. real world test for defy .. let us know after you get down at VT/Churchgate

AndriodFan perfectly Put the conclusion in one line
"If you are ready to experiment and are willing to trade off the polish of iPhone for flexibility of Android, then go for Defy."
Personally i wont spend more than 3K on spice so Spice phn is not consider here
Vaibhav

rohan_mhtr said:
LOL , thinking about buying Defy . But honestly we people do think twice before spending 15k on spice . How many people here have actually used MI410 ?

I would have considerd it if its pricing was anything around 16k mark . And remember i am shifting from ipod touch's IOS and sound output was also my top priority just not looks and flaunts . But again i needed a good OS too and hence android . People who have used IOS before for a long duration would understand my dilemma !

@Vaibhav , thanks for your post , It was the most helpful . Tomorrow i will check the pricing of defy with my local dealer first . Online option would be second if the price difference is high . Also how is the sound quality via headphones , i mean is it loud enough ? I travel by mumbai locals to my office hence they need to be loud .

Given that your budget is around 20k and that you are interested in Defy, think about this package:

1. Motorola Defy: approx 15k
2. Brainwavz M3 IEM (with very good noise isolation): 3.5k-4k or M2 for 2.5k-3k
3. Fiio E5 headphone amp: 1k approx

desiibond said:
Given that your budget is around 20k and that you are interested in Defy, think about this package:

1. Motorola Defy: approx 15k
2. Brainwavz M3 IEM (with very good noise isolation): 3.5k-4k or M2 for 2.5k-3k
3. Fiio E5 headphone amp: 1k approx

I already have Philips SHE9800 in-ear headphones . Will i need an external amp ? I am not an audiophile but would like loud output .
Today i will be checking out both defy and mi410 , BTW the spice is hard to find in local shops here in navi mumbai . Will try reliance digital this evening .

rohan_mhtr said:
I already have Philips SHE9800 in-ear headphones . Will i need an external amp ? I am not an audiophile but would like loud output .
Today i will be checking out both defy and mi410 , BTW the spice is hard to find in local shops here in navi mumbai . Will try reliance digital this evening .

yes. you do need an amp for loudness.

For Spice Mi-410 User reviews,

see Spice Mi 410 smartphone. 1Ghz snapdragon | 4.1" | Froyo | 5MP | 15K

EDIT: Also see video review --- *www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmj7WPppLdc

think samsung galaxy pop(9000Rs) is best for your budget another handset is galaxy fit(11000Rs)but i suggest u pls go for GALAXY POP for more details pls search from google by GALAXY POP
:-D

Scientia Wiz said:
think samsung galaxy pop(9000Rs) is best for your budget another handset is galaxy fit(11000Rs)but i suggest u pls go for GALAXY POP for more details pls search from google by GALAXY POP

you should be kidding! Ever saw the pathetic low resolution display on those two?

i heard spice is getting switched off automatically[thats what happens when you try to put everything into a cheap phone]

get defy IMO the best phone at this price...

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sud we consider Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 or LG Optimus One P500 an alternative choice?

Ace, if you find it for 12-13k, not a penny more. above it, Defy. below it, optimus one.

soumya.b said:
sud we consider Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 or LG Optimus One P500 an alternative choice?

Oh dude check other threads where so many people are against ACE!!! ACE @ 13.5k aint worth AT ALL with so many not-so-great-features at the price point!!

After much thinking and researching i havent yet come to a decision . so i have decided to increase my budget to around 16.5k but i have still not found any other alternatives .
This is what i have considered so far
Moto defy Rs 14800 from local dealer + 8gb card Rs 500 + fiio headphone amp if required Rs 1000 = Rs 16300 total
OR
Spice Mi410 Rs 13300 local outlet + 16Gb card Rs 1500 + fiio headphone amp if required Rs 1000 = Rs 15800 total

Moto pros : Gorilla glass , better support , better camera , better Sound , Rugged , battery , slightly better looks
Cons : 3.7 'screen compared to 4.1 of spice , slightly lesser hardware but good for me
Spice pros : large screen good for PDF's , Better hardware
cons : support , still camera , battery , display colour n material
Really confused , please suggest your options .

Oh come on get DEFY!!!

defy defy defy....
no second thoughts , go and get it

Giving options again:

1. Spice Mi410 @ 13k
2. Moto Defy @ 14.5k

I would pick Defy over that spice thing any given day. Period!

Defy Defy!!! A lot lot better than the Spice phone.

Defy without a doubt. I am surprised that you are still not convinced with it.

I have handled both Spice and the Defy. Spice just doesn't seem right. It is trying to be a jack of all trades, and failing at that. Defy on the other hand looks and performs much better. For around 15k, there are no other better options for an android phone.

why you people are not considering Wildfire S as an option,it is also a very good(according to me the best phone in the budget)

^^ & how is it best phone in the budget? can you please shed some light on that.

aroraanant said:
why you people are not considering Wildfire S as an option,it is also a very good(according to me the best phone in the budget)

But inferior to Defy in every area. and it lacks 3rd party ROMs. and it is NOT the best phone in the budget.

Wow many people are are suggesting Defy , i also like its looks the most .
While searching for reviews on youtube i found a very interesting video comparing spice mi410 , defy , samsung ace and acer phones .
This is not a complete review but shows couple of tests and features . As spice has better hardware it was obivously on top of most tests but what surprised me that even the ace pawned the defy in many tests . I know these are just tests but it does say something
Note : Video is in thai not english but you can see the tests . Also spice is called Wellcom a99 in thailand and Ace is called cooper .
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Whatever the video says , i am still inclined towards the defy but slightly confused , also i forgot to mention that i will be using the phone for atleast 1.5 years .

^^ Defy upgraded to Froyo is just as fast as Ace. And it has better built quality and good ROMs. Defy is full value for money...

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I saw the video... unbelievable...

The 1 GHz Scorpion processor based Spice Mi 410 scored 59 fps in Neocore. Ace scores 53 fps while Defy scored only 42 fps...

*i.imgur.com/M72DR.jpg

And my overclocked-modded Optimus One gives me 60+ fps in neocore everytime and 1500+ in Quadrant advanced...

This is unbelievable...

Just buy an Optimus One bro... and install CM7 and overclock it. Your performance would be awesome...

^^ i am not into overclocking and stuff , just occasional gaming , you must be getting a terrible battery life with such an overclock !

rohan_mhtr said:
^^ i am not into overclocking and stuff , just occasional gaming , you must be getting a terrible battery life with such an overclock !

LMFAO!... My battery life is Awe-freaking-some... 24 hours easily with heavy usage...

See: [KERNEL][2 JUL]franco.Kernel |.v18.1| 2.6.32.41 - xda-developers

rohan_mhtr said:
^^ i am not into overclocking and stuff , just occasional gaming , you must be getting a terrible battery life with such an overclock !

but remember neo core or similar benchmark doesn't guarantee better gaming performance.

also overclocking rarely increases battery drain. most of the time battery drain is negligible.

The 1 GHz Scorpion processor based Spice Mi 410 scored 59 fps in Neocore. Ace scores 53 fps while Defy scored only 42 fps...

Ace scores more thanks to HALF the screen resolution

It's 480x320 for ACE v/s 800x480 for the rest, so we are talking LESS THAN HALF screen resolution for the ACE, yet performance isn't double

, it's still less (it's using Adreno 200, same as XCD 35)

Defy scores lower thanks to slower GPU, yes the Power VR SGX 530 is somewhat a SANDVICH, something like this:

Performance wise:
1. Adreno 205
2. Power VR SGX 530
3. Adreno 200

Drfy hands down!!!getting mine today!!

Got myself a phone today , went to the store to purchase the motorola defy but how many times does it happens that you go shopping for something and end up getting something else !
Got a very good deal on Samsung Galaxy S i9000 from my local dealer for Rs 21500 , i hope its not much . I checked the defy first , looks were good but it was lacking some wow factor . Then he showed me the Galaxy S i9000 and i fell in love with the super bright 4' display . I also checked the htc desire priced at Rs16800 but it couldnt beat the galaxy s . Sadly he didnt have the spice mi410 with him . I went with Rs 15000 with me and so had to swipe the remaining amount from my credit card . I hope it wasnt a bad deal since i also got a free scratch gaurd .
This thread was not at all a waste and actually helped me a lot to buy my first android .
My only concern is the lack of flash for the camera otherwise everything looks good .

for 21.5k, you can't ask for more. congrats.

btw was gingerbread preinstalled or it was it packed with froyo?

It has Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair) !!!! Looks like a very old piece !
I will do the upgrading myself through Kies tomorrow before adding anything else .