New touchscreen phone needed for about 20K

Hey guys, A friend of mine needs help in this regard. He is looking for a new touchscreen phone for good audio/video support...also needs good App support & good build quality. He currently owns an n73 & wants to move on to a touchscreen now. So he is asking is whether he should wait for a month or two for the windows 8 phone of nokia or should he go for a samsung one. Are there any good samsung models for 20k. Btw he also wants a decent camera with flash(Xenon a bonus otherwise dual led would do)

Sony Xperia P for good camera ~22.5k
Motorola Atrix 2
Htc Sensation

xperia p if u can stretch buget..else xperia sola it is

Also checkout the Galaxy S Advance. It got a recent price drop and is now available for around Rs 19K. IMO it is a steal at that price with its Dual Core Processor and gorgeous Super Amoled Screen. Only drawback is no News on ICS Update.

randomuser111 said:
Sony Xperia P for good camera ~22.5k
Motorola Atrix 2
Htc Sensation

thanks for your suggestions...but how reliable are htc & motorola brands...i don't see them anywhere...

also aren't htc known for their poor battery life??

one more thing he wanted me to add is he also expandable memory & gps...

Rohan_B said:
Also checkout the Galaxy S Advance. It got a recent price drop and is now available for around Rs 19K. IMO it is a steal at that price with its Dual Core Processor and gorgeous Super Amoled Screen. Only drawback is no News on ICS Update.

erm aren't they like old now??Aren't there any new replacements for this??Also yeah i heard there are no more future firmware updates...any truth to that?

Ronnie11 said:
erm aren't they like old now??Aren't there any new replacements for this??Also yeah i heard there are no more future firmware updates...any truth to that?

Dude Galaxy S Advance was announced earlier this year. It has up to date hardware and will be able to run each and every app in the Play Store. I think you are mistaking it for the Galaxy S i9000.
Here check this out-
*www.flipkart.com/samsung-galaxy-s-advance-i9070-mobile-phone/p/itmd9mz7tyzmbhjz?pid=MOBD9MZ6FPCVWSGV&ref=f20fc970-931b-4151-8321-6a95d85faff3

Xperia Sola.

If budget permits Xperia P @ 22k is a freaking nice deal.

tkin said:
Xperia Sola.

If budget permits Xperia P @ 22k is a freaking nice deal.

seems to be impressive but found out that there are no card slots...he did ask for expansion options which i assumed every 20k+ phones would have..

Rohan_B said:
Dude Galaxy S Advance was announced earlier this year. It has up to date hardware and will be able to run each and every app in the Play Store. I think you are mistaking it for the Galaxy S i9000.
Here check this out-
*www.flipkart.com/samsung-galaxy-s-advance-i9070-mobile-phone/p/itmd9mz7tyzmbhjz?pid=MOBD9MZ6FPCVWSGV&ref=f20fc970-931b-4151-8321-6a95d85faff3

ahh yes got confused with the galaxy s one...sry...am not in touch with the mobile world at all..thanks for correcting me...will look into this piece...

Ronnie11 said:
seems to be impressive but found out that there are no card slots...he did ask for expansion options which i assumed every 20k+ phones would have..

ahh yes got confused with the galaxy s one...sry...am not in touch with the mobile world at all..thanks for correcting me...will look into this piece...

It has 16GB, good enough for most apps etc.

I would suggest against P, Bad battery life and a weak chipset. Instead go for Atrix2/Sensation. Both have better battery lives and chipsets. All the more both have slightly bigger screens. Also, expandable storage !

daksh said:
I would suggest against P, Bad battery life and a weak chipset. Instead go for Atrix2/Sensation. Both have better battery lives and chipsets. All the more both have slightly bigger screens. Also, expandable storage !

Xperia P has the fastest chipset among all the phones you had listed,
Motorola ATRIX 2 vs. Sony Xperia P - GSMArena.com
HTC Sensation vs. Sony Xperia P - GSMArena.com

tkin said:
Xperia P has the fastest chipset among all the phones you had listed,
Motorola ATRIX 2 vs. Sony Xperia P - GSMArena.com
HTC Sensation vs. Sony Xperia P - GSMArena.com

Dude, Novathor U8500 has a single core mali 400 not a multi core one like S2/note/S3. Qualcomm S3 and OMAP 4430 are MUCH MUCH faster than novathor and annihilate it in GPU performance easily.
Sony Xperia P review | The Verge See the performance section of this review, Galaxy nexus has the same chipset as atrix 2 with a slightly OC'd GPU and also galaxy nexus runs 720p whereas atrix 2 is qhd, then also Omap's gpu(powervs sgx540) beats mali 400 easily.

Even One V's GPU ( Adreno 205) beats a single core mali400, where as sensation has adreno 220 which is more than twice as fast as adreno 205

, So there is NO comparison whatsoever.
And battery of Xperia P is of 1305 mah, Sensation as 1520 and Atrix has 1785

daksh said:
Dude, Novathor U8500 has a single core mali 400 not a multi core one like S2/note/S3. Qualcomm S3 and OMAP 4430 are MUCH MUCH faster than novathor and annihilate it in GPU performance easily.
Sony Xperia P review | The Verge See the performance section of this review, Galaxy nexus has the same chipset as atrix 2 with a slightly OC'd GPU and also galaxy nexus runs 720p whereas atrix 2 is qhd, then also Omap's gpu(powervs sgx540) beats mali 400 easily.

Even One V's GPU ( Adreno 205) beats a single core mali400, where as sensation has adreno 220 which is more than twice as fast as adreno 205 , So there is NO comparison whatsoever.
And battery of Xperia P is of 1305 mah, Sensation as 1520 and Atrix has 1785

Single core? That's crap, I overlooked that, sorry.

I was about to buy one, thanks for the heads up, *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovaThor

Now I'm gunning for SGS II(i9100).

No problem buddy, dont say sorry

i9100 would be the best purchase if you get it for around 25! All the best in finding the non G one! Cheers

Else if you're unable to find a non g one go for Xperia S, you could get it for around 26!

daksh said:
No problem buddy, dont say sorry

i9100 would be the best purchase if you get it for around 25! All the best in finding the non G one! Cheers Else if you're unable to find a non g one go for Xperia S, you could get it for around 26!

That's my plan, i9100g is just cr@p, flipkart was selling the i9100 for 27k I think.

i hope FK knows if they are selling G or non-G.

@Ronnie11, ask your friend to buy S Advance if he is paranoid about the lack of decent motorola service. Both have excellent screen (Super AMOLED but pentile vs higher resolution RGB) and decent battery life.

NO Galaxy S advance suggestions please. You guys do realize its a 19k phone with ZERO developer support and NO official ICS from Samsung ? It will be stuck on GB for life !!
Nobody even cares for it on XDA, so forget about custom ROMs completely.

randomuser111 said:
NO Galaxy S advance suggestions please. You guys do realize its a 19k phone with ZERO developer support and NO official ICS from Samsung ? It will be stuck on GB for life !!
Nobody even cares for it on XDA, so forget about custom ROMs completely.

Truth.
In this budget, its either Atrix 2 or Sensation or go to 25 and guy S2 or xperia S

yeah the reason y i was sceptical about s advance was the lack of developer support..but then again this Motorola one many of you recommended like the atrix 2 for example..how reliable is motorola?I heard the company was in bad state...i don't see motorola handsets nowadays...same with htc..how is it as a brand??Do they have that poor battery life issue still???

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Motorola service is non existent in most parts of India except a few metros (non existent in some metros as well !!)
At least that's what I have personally heard from people. If someone else has better experience then maybe its not that bad. So wait for other opinions on Moto A.S.S.

Ronnie11 said:
yeah the reason y i was sceptical about s advance was the lack of developer support..but then again this Motorola one many of you recommended like the atrix 2 for example..how reliable is motorola?I heard the company was in bad state...i don't see motorola handsets nowadays...same with htc..how is it as a brand??Do they have that poor battery life issue still???

Zero support in India.

Atrix 2 as you said support issue. Sensation NA. Xperia P weak.

Galaxy S Advance is a good deal (but it's the same chipset as Xperia P).

But according to me, the Xperia P would provide an overall good package.

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Galaxy S Advance cannot playback 1080p videos, whereas the P can

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if u can increase even i would suggest Sony Xperia P

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get HTC sensation XE from infibeam at rs= 23,985

wow i am surprised there are lack of good options in the 20k section...24k is a bit steep..22k is possible though

Xperia P and Sensation are the best options and both costs 22k